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Watching some older movies made me realize how much the film industry has imoroved in the past few decades
The pacing is so much better nowadays as well as the twists. You can see all major twists from a mile in these old ahh movies.

True. Constantine does the whole occult noir feel better and is a more interesting movie than this.

>>212259448 (OP)
>>212259609
Wrong about everything except the twists. Since the 90's we go in looking for a twist so we immediately notice the clues. They have to do a better job of hiding it now.

>>212259448 (OP)
The new age writing sucks

do modern movies have boiled egg scenes?

>>212259448 (OP)
A lot of older movies are based on books, and despite what a lot of readers will say, a lot of these adaptations are pretty faithful, which is to their detriment. A novels pacing is pretty different than a movies. Novels can afford to be as fast or slow or even repetitious as they need to be because of all the extra information the text is giving, shaping narrative, character and atmosphere.
This is why the best book adaptations are the ones that were sparse to begin with like No Country, or were changed heavily like The Shining.

>>212259448 (OP)
If you get the opportunity you should kill you're self.

>>212259448 (OP)
You seen end of days

>>212259448 (OP)
>old ahh movies

>>212259448 (OP)
>this retard thinks a twist makes something interesting

Name 3 juxtapositions

>>212261552
Yeah if thats the whole selling point of a movie it better be good

>>212259448 (OP)
This movie literally had to spell out the "twist"
>Louis Cyphre... Lucifer

>>212259448 (OP)
Real. I'd argue writing too has gotten better but also worse. There's more extreme cases on both ends now, I reckon.

>>212259448 (OP)
A lot of the old murder mysteries had latin language puzzle/clues but schools dont bother teach latin anymore so it doesnt end up in movies

Angel Heart is not about the twist, it's about the performances.

Old thing good new thing bad really falls apart fast of you go back and watch some 7.5/10 movies from the 90s
My gf and I watched Single White Female because it was on Netflix, it's like a parody

>>212261759
And the photography.

>>212259448 (OP)
>technical aspects improved
>writing got worse
It's mass produced high tech slop for npc cattle

Ruin the twist/ending of an old film and you can still enjoy the acting, directing, photography, special effects etc. Ruin the twist/ending of a modern film and you are often left with nothing. This is why the no spoiler culture is so strong today.

I'm not really a fan of 80s and 90s films, I think they're pretty mediocre

>>212261798
Yeah. Huge problem this day'n age is a lot of quality new releases remain un(der)watched because of how things are distributed now and lack of promotion. If you want a good Netflix rec, check out Mosul.

>>212261873
There's a few gems with production design so outstanding, it's tricked people into believing everything from those decades shares those qualities.

He had the whole world in his hands.

Also, OP is a zoomer ADD faggot.

>>212261873
never post again please

>>212262311
But he's right. We need more outspokenness against nostalgia cancer, not less, so I hope he keeps posting like a fucker.

Well Angel Heart just isn't that great of a movie. And who cares about twists anyway?

>>212262408
I hope you and he both drop dead, you're cancer.

i feel like the impending dread of knowing something more and more fucked up will happen is more important than le twist in this movie

>>212262709
>no u
Really proving your point, you ridiculous manchild.

>>212262408
Agreed, the 80s and 90s were objectively bad decades for film and it's just nostalgia which blinds a lot of people because they watched Back to the Future and Terminator 2 as kids
Film peaked in the 50s

>>212259448 (OP)
>The pacing is so much better
nah, fast action now just fits your damaged neural system

>>212262301

He clashed with Robert De Niro on the set of "Angel Heart". De Niro never forget it and has kept him out of projects ever since. De Niro is a petty, spiteful short man.

>>212262798
Zoomer status? 90's were a great decade for film (sure there was a lot of outdated slop but still). 80's were shit and so were the 50's. You're all over the place with your take and you might be retarded.

>>212262805
Most older action movies have such poor action sequences, it's fascinating boomers choose defending that slop as their hill to die on.

>>212259448 (OP)
obvious bait
the film industry is pretty obviously the worst it has been for decades

>>212259448 (OP)
>thinking the movie is acclaimed for the twist
go watch Nolan movies

>>212262916
>he film industry is pretty obviously the worst it has been for decades
How? The reason no one has a proper explanation as to why film (allegedly) is so bad now is that it isn't. Yes, DEI slop is annoying (always been there and merely got more aggressive with bisexual Obama and the orange man). Yes, Disney sucks (done so ever since the man died). Yes, the Oscars, Hollywood Reporter and film bloggers all hate you (they likely would have done so 20 years ago too). None of the complaints bear enough weight to jeopardize the medium.

>>212260425
This would make sense if it wasn't for the fact that films from the 80's and 90's weren't so well paced, while modern films are dragged out messes. See modern horror slop blowing way past two hours with endless scenes repeating or going nowhere.

>>212261798
Single White Female is bad. It's less bad than it's contemporary competition.

>>212263052
Because the movies are dogshit.

>>212263052
People are confusing the industry being in bad shape and movies being bad. Yes, we literally haven't had more than a half dozen great movies in nearly 15 years, but that's not the same as the industry being in financial trouble.

>>212259448 (OP)
more like
>the twist is obvious so they actually had to make the rest of the movie good as well

>>212263239
>Yes, we literally haven't had more than a half dozen great movies in nearly 15 years
Which are?

>>212259448 (OP)
Op loves probably the works of Villeneuve

>>212259448 (OP)
>Today's shit /tv/ opinion brought to you by OP

>>212263295
Not OP, but Villeneuve is pretty good if we ignore Blade Runner 2049 and Harrison Ford ruining it.

>>212259448 (OP)
I'd twist that nigress' titties for sure I'll tell ya what

>>212263224
They aren't.

>>212263293
Not sure. But I'm sure we must have had at least 6 films in the last 15 years on par with the glut of high quality films from the 70's-90's. Statistically speaking.

>>212259448 (OP)
The only reason i watched this movie is that SMT lifted the 'Louis Cyphre' thing from it; it was kinda dull

>>212263341
So not committing, huh?

>>212263392
I just genuinely can't think of any. Social Network?

>>212259448 (OP)
if something is good, it doesn't matter whether you know the twist or not. I'll admit I'd figured out the twist of this movie about 15 minutes in but it was still a great watch.

>>212263339
For you.

>>212263427
It's fine but inferior to Boyle's Steve Jobs, which is a genuinely great movie.

Mann's Blackhat is another great one. It has perhaps the strongest Cyberpunk flair of any live-action movie ever. I love its chaotic precision, the total commitment to the topic, rendering every single scene as a hacking exercise of sorts.

Or Zahler first two directorial works.

Or Miller's definitive Mad Max interpretation(s).

Or Sarnet's recent films.

Or Avatar: The Way of Water.

Or Villeneuve's Dune.

Malick's The Tree of Life.

Gavras' Athena.

...

>>212259448 (OP)
>The pacing is so much better nowadays

You are fucking retarded. Look at pic related. That is Farewell My Lovely/Murder My Sweet told in a competent manner in an hour. These prolapsed anus faggots today can't cram that much story into 10 hours of some streaming fuck stain of a show.

>>212261759
It's about voodoo chicken.

>>212262301
if only he was young enough to do the max payne movie