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>>212285216
the clips will continue until morale improves

More clips like that.

>>212285258
watch Superman

>>212285181 (OP)
>>212285181 (OP)
Thanks
Will leave a dislike

>>212285258
Troonface

>>212285316
I'm now a tranny lover

>>212285181 (OP)
Why would the wholesome Clark Kent have trendy bully hair?

>>212285336
clark kent is a raging racist in this movie.

>>212285365
our superman

>>212285181 (OP)
9 days till Superman flops and Gunn is suicided along with his GF. Its going to be glorious

>>212285181 (OP)
if i saw the hot chick at work flirting with chad id just quit on the spot

>>212285365
I wish

That acting so stiff. It reminds me of an MTV show.

>>212285394
It will not count as a flop with the new standard set while it will make less money than Man of Steel
WB is to proud to admit it is a flop while MoS wasnt viewed as a "flop" until the new regime took over

>>212285434
Well, duh, its a comedy
Superman has always been a comedy and slice of life drama according to "real" Superman fans, aka jhonny come latelys who started from Allstar Superman

I'm gonna see it in theaters but holy shit stop with the fucking clips every 2 days the studios must be panicking

>>212285499
It will flop badly. Nobody I have talked to in real life knows this film exists.

>>212285394
Did someone rub a lamp to summon you? If Gunn suicided he would go to white man's hell with Snyder's daughter. Also, you are a dirty indian.

a few more clips and I don't even have to go the theater when it drops

>>212285181 (OP)
It's like a baby movie for babies compared to Man of Steel.

>>212285559
They claim its aimed at kids, specifically boys, yet boys prefer action and adventure over comedy and slice of life drama with hamfisted liberal "life lessons" that you are supposed to cry over

>>212285718
Boys prefer action and adventure, Man of Steel is ironically more action figure friendly

>>212285773
man of steel is fucking boring though desu. boys liked fun action adventure like marvel slop but now they've all aged out of it and zoomers haven't grown up with those movies so they don't give a shit.

They can’t even keep him in the same frame he’s so much taller then her and she’s wearing heels

>>212285802
No, its not
Its great sci fi action adventure escapism and you only started hating on it after the hit piece articles about it
Man of Steel is like The Avengers films or Captain America films but without the quips and kids dont care for the quips anyways

>>212285802
>Man of Steel is fucking boring! Dont beleive me?! Looper and Buzzfeed said so!

>>212285858
no I thought it was boring when I walked out of it a decade ago. all the action is backloaded to the last 30 minutes so that even then it feels like too much because it's all at once. it should've been paced better, and it's not well written enough to get along without it. Captain America is also mid nobody gives a shit about the first one. Avengers movies have way more action than MoS and it's sprinkled throughout rather than all at the end.

>>212285718
>>212285773
The trick to making Superman work is based on 2 things. Making him cool as well as hopeful.
Snyder succeed in the first visually (in fact, it still looks better than anything in the new one), but failed with the hopeful part.
It remains to be seen whether the new Superman will be hopeful, it's already not as cool as Snyder Superman on a superficial level.
To give an example of a movie that worked and still made a boyscout character appealing, that's The Winter Soldier. Captain America was simultaneously a goody two shoes while being badass and inspiring. That's hard to pull off with such clear cut and sometimes boring characters like Supe and Cap. It's also why Batman types are generally more appealing.

>>212285941
If the action would have been the whole film, you would have complained about it being all action instead
And what was so great about theb writing of the Revee films or Keaton batman films? Its capeshit we are talking about here, it should be shamelessly escapist
I dont turn to superhero fiction for realistic drama, I turn to it for escapism

>>212286035
no I wouldn't have if it was evenly sprinkled throughout. I like the first Bayformers movie and that's only appeal is the action. i didn't even mention the Reeve or Keaton movies they're from 40 years ago why would I bring them up

>>212285990
"Hopeful" could mean anything
Are you implying Cavill Superman wasnt fuck drumpf and pro-troon enough?
Cavill Superman saved more people in everyday situations than Captain America in that montage you choose to forget after directions from hit pieces, Captain America is more of the staright up fighter you acusse Cavill Superman of being
Just cause Cavill Superman didnt save a cat from a tree equals that saving those lives on the oil rig dont count
Corenswet better save a cat from a tree or else hes murderman like Cavill

>>212286134
he saves a dog does that count

>>212285990
"Hopeful"

>>212285990
No, to key to making a good Superman movie is make a fun entertaining movie and don’t make Superman some boring “symbol.” Nobody wants to watch a fucking symbol. Why I’m interested in see Gunn take on having Superman being kind of a farm boy brute trying to do good but at times is a bull in a china shop

>>212285990
Cap killed more in cold blood than Cavill Supes and The Avengers and Cap films had the same coletheral damage

>>212286171
This is kind of my thoughts on it too. Superman in the Snyder movies felt more like a symbol or a concept for people to react to rather than a person in his own right. Some people are mad that this new one seems more emotive than Superman is but personally I'll bite that bullet if it means he actually feels like a person. hoping this one is good though desu I have no idea how to feel about it beyond that. feels like it could be total shit or kino like the Raimi movies. wish they would drop review embargo faggotry

>>212286134
>hopeful could mean anything
Not really. Donner's Superman is hopeful. Snyder's Superman is more of a sci fi flick of an alien on Earth trying to live as a human, and involving itself in a lot of action, often times because it has no other choice.
It's just different.

>>212285181 (OP)
Give it up, Gunn. Stuporman’s failure is imminent!!

>>212285858
>>212285892
Defend Man of Steel solely on its merits as a film without mentioning Marvel, critics or anything external to the film itself.

>>212286171
The "symbol" is made up bullcrap by libs who wants to make Superman a symbol against Drumpf and for troons in "these trying dark times", as they call it
i doubt it Superman's creators were communist and pro-trans
While golden age comics had the superheroes fight nazis, the libs ignore that they also fought communists

>>212285181 (OP)
It’s going to be so funny when you jeets see this make 1 billion

>>212286167
We don't know if any of those are dead. Or people.

>>212286222
> feels like it could be total shit or kino like the Raimi movies.

I’m giving Gunn the benefit of the doubt because when I saw trailer to Guardians I thought it looked stupid as fuck and was going to be terrible

>character is supposed to represent hope and everything good about humanity
>works as a journalist
yep that was doomed from the start

>>212286267
I just did, its great visuals, action and escapism, all i want from a superhero film
Trying to make it "deep" with some hamfisted hypocritical liberal "life lesson" as some sort of cope cause creators or fans are ashamed of the genre will only make it pretentious and more redicoulus

>>212285948
>not one person, on the entire project, said "wait a minute..."

>>212286289
Jeets are already hyping it
Jeets assume Gunn are cool with the Snyderverse and this is just a James Bond sittuation with just a new actor for the same fluid continuity

>girls randomly into jimmy olsen
so all those leaks about monkeys and cuck luthor were true?

>>212286267
Wasnt the argument that it didnt matter that Man of Steel made profit since it didnt make contemporary Marvel money?

>>212285990
The trick to making Superman work is making a good movie.

>>212286334
Man of Steel had depth to it too. Snyder just went for a more true to life approach, basically doing what Nolan did with Batman, as much as you realistically can with such a character.
Gunn's film is more fantastical and comic booky, down to the goofy looking Kaiju.
He probably intends it to be a family movie whereas MoS was made for a more specific young adult crowd.

>>212286371
Jeets hate Gunn and he put them on blast and now they’re calling him a racist

>>212285216
/thread

>>212286334
And you can't make one post defending the film without immediately going to something external to the film itself.

>>212286278
tbf Superman was more or less created by Jews to act as a power fantasy for oppressed people and he spent most of his early runs running around beating the shit out of corrupt politicians, evil business owner types and general criminals. i remember one where he fucks up a mine owner because he doesn't care enough about his workers safety regulations. he wasn't a communist but reading him as like an FDR New Deal type isn't really a huge stretch

>>212286402
No. That was made up shit Synder losers invented. It crashing and burning after its opening weekend is why it was considered a failure

>>212286312
I like his other movies so yeah I'm giving some benefit of the doubt which is the only reason I'm bothering to check it out but I'm still cautious since Superman really doesn't seem like his style. we'll see though in a week

>>212286443
My favorite is where he destroys an entire neighborhood so the city would have no choice but to build better housing. Cops are all shooting at him and he’s laughing at them

>>212286404
Which is anyone's guess on how to do, because everyone has a different idea of what Superman's appeal is, and how he should be depicted. It's one of those properties like Star Wars, where people don't collectively know what they want to see.

>>212286420
>moves the goalposts
cope

>>212286402
What's your argument that it's a good film without mentioning Marvel?

>>212286512
I think anyone can agree just make a fun movie where he doesn’t have a personality equal to a block of cement

>>212286406
Man of Steel and the Snyder cut are more fantastical than you realize
Gunn is inspired by they restrained Revee films which had the 90% drama and comedy over fantastical stuff for budget reasons while people today assume its cause of comics accuracy
The reason I like tMan of Steel and Snyder cut is cause they are shamelessly escapist, just like the Burton Batman films
Snyder cut is the most stylistic superhero film since the Burton batman films
Call me dumb all you want, i dont care, i read books for depth instead, books are superiour for the depth and messaging you are looking for

>>212285316
she's irish

>>212286512
problem with a character that hasn't had a good movie in 20 years. Raimi movies weren't 1:1 with Spider-Man mythos and a lot of comicfags have complaints about things like Spider-Man not being sassy enough or Tobey being a bitch but it didn't matter because the movie was good and everyone loved it. Same with Batman and Nolan, now because of the Nolan movies we're stuck with gritty grounded Batman for an eternity. Make a good movie and the character is redefined in the public consciousness.

>>212286360
They were going for H.R. Giger aesthetics

>>212286408
Yes, after that comment some of them do now, they hyped him before though
Who wouldnt hate a smug fratboy with an ugly 90s haircut though?

>>212286420
Defend Gunn's vanity project without mentioning Snyder

>>212286578
What the fuck are you talking about. This is most fanatical Sueprman yet. Go Krypto the super dog. Go Lois flying a fucking space ship.

>>212286578
I agree BvS and JL are more fantastical and stylized, especially JL, but not sure about MoS beyond what's necessary for the character. Snyder is clearly on a leash with MoS and it's the least "Snyder" movie he's ever made.

>>212286443
And that would include communists and no chance in hell they were pro-trans
if they were pro-trans, Superman wouldnt represent classic male ideals

>>212286560
I think there's a fine line between that, and making it too silly/self-ironic to compensate, or out of fear for it being too clinical/moody.
That's why I'm saying it's a tricky thing to pull off.
Snyder pulled off the part of it coming across as believable and visually engaging without the tone being too goofy, but like you said, the personality wasn't there. Gunn's version will probably have more heart, but it's also likely not going to be as thrilling in terms of action, and the tone might be too campy to take seriously. Guess it remains to be seen.
If you could combine both approaches you could come up with something good.

>>212286543
>>212286654
I accept your concession that you don't like MoS on its own merits but based on a contrarian for the sake of it response to the MCU.

>>212286449
Nope, Man of steel made more money than the first Iron Man, you guys then claimed MoS "only" making 670 million was a "flop" since it was bellow MCU of the time
Gunn's superman will make somewhere around500 to 600 million and you will now claim it counts as success by the new loered standrds
Are do you here and now swear to admit that Gunn's Superman should count as a flop if it dont make above 670 million?

>>212285990
>hopeful
Just another way of saying you like the caricature not the character. Superman is one of if not the most straightforward adaptable characters out there. There’s absolutely no reason to throw a hissy fit over half the stuff in MoS because normies sure as hell don’t care.
>muh destruction
The stuff that happens in every superhero movie ever. Why the fuck are people giving superfags a voice.

>>212286687
I can't recall Superman dealing w/ trans people at all desu in the 30/40s, I doubt he did since that wasn't really a thing. He did a bunch of racist shit about Japanese though. really the ideal of Superman was just a power fantasy of a big brother type you wish you had who would go beat the shit out of bullies for you. The hope shit got added later.

I’m not an Indian and I’m not a shill but I am hyped about this movie even if the cgi looks slop

>>212286578
It's escapism either way, but to me, good escapism actually involves a dose of realism. Otherwise it's harder to suspend disbelief and put yourself in that world, or it is to me.
Gunn's movie on the other hand strikes me as very comic booky.
Due to my own bias, I prefer the MoS approach by default, but objectively, Gunn's take has the heart and comedy that's missing from Superman in Snyder's films.

>>212286659
Just cause Man of steel isnt goofy dont mean it wasnt fantastical
What is it with you npeople who cant allow yourself escapism without goffines? A New Hope didnt have G>unn level goffiness
Just admit that you are ashamed of the genre and need comedy as a scapegoat to claim you watch it for the laughs and how silly you think it is

>>212285181 (OP)
Damn this is depressing

>>212286743
I agree that a lot of the shit people complain about like the destruction of Superman killing Zod normies probably don't care about but honestly Superman's as much of a caricature as he's ever been in MoS. most of the movie is talking about how he's the messiah who will change the world and inspire everyone and yada yada. he barely feels like a person at all with a personality or hobbies. just a concept.

>>212286798
Make up your mind, just yesterday you complained about Snyder being "too dark" and "too serious" and that the goffines and sillines of Gunn will redeem that
I prefer sincerity over the coward irony and self-referntal comedy you can use as plan B if snobby critics whos not into the genre complain
Gunn clearly is ashamed of the source material

>>212286743
Saving a cat from a tree isn't a depiction of a caricature, or inherently comedic. It just means Superman is equally concerned with preserving all innocent life regardless of its market value.
I'm not saying Snyder's Superman wasn't at all hopeful. He clearly alluded to the Jesus-like nature of Superman. But it still lacked the charm and warmth of, say, Donner Superman. It was more of a sci fi movie about an alien raised in Kansas trying to do the right thing, as most average people would.
But it was a more realistic approach, whereas Gunn is going for a comic book feel.

>>212286863
That film dont hold up anymore, even if it had to focus on Daily planet and cat saving stuff for budget reason, they could at least then tried to amke it stylistic and not klet the 70s fashion and inverioment determine the feel of the film
Since they use what they find the cold 70s atmospghere affect the film
You didnt have that same problem with for example 70s James Bond

Why does this look like a big budget CW show? You can't tell me you don't see the resemble.
> Crappy costumes.
> Dumb gimmicks.
> Corny writing.
Its like Gunn looked at the CW DC show and started basing his entire DC universe off it. Like posters even look the same. Tell me with a straight face this would be out of place from the CW DC shows. You can't.

>>212286961
the cat saving stuff was like 2 minutes tbf and I think it holds up extremely well because it's so mundane. It's a pretty good character building moment at the start of the movie and it does heckin subversion of expectations by showing that even a guy as powerful and important as Superman would take the time out of his day to do something as seemingly insignificant as help a little girl get her cat because helping the little guy isn't insignificant to him. the other stuff though I agree was probably due to budget constraints more than anything else.

>>212286939
Just cause saving a cat is the right thing to do dont mean its entertaining to watch
You want to watch supermanbtake a shit too just cause its something he has to do?
Better to have it implied then, we all know he would save a cat from a tree even if its not depicted on film
You already saw it with Revee, you wont beleive that superman saves a cat from atree if its not shown in every film? why not have every scene be cat saving for hopium assurance while were at it?

>>212286961
what the hell are you talking about. It was set in modern times but done stylistically to evoke an older time.
You can watch any other movie from 1978 and it looks much different than this

>>212287033
>why does this look like a big budget CW show
this feels like an oxymoron. the biggest problem with those shows is that they have a 2 dollar budget

>>212287033
A lot of people like the CW shows though

>>212286888
But I didn't. There's more than one person on the board.
And sincerity can still be achieved with levity, without the need of making things too goofy. I again go back to The Winter Soldier and the way the MCU handled Captain America in general.That to me was a successful model of how to pull off a boyscout character, which mind you, I'm not typically a fan of. In fact, I'm all for serious takes on characters, but it has to fit the story. That's why I prefer Batman. You could do a Snyder Batman and it could be great. But Superman necessitates a certain level of optimism and hopefulness and you can't make him too grimdark, it just doesn't mix well.
>Gunn clearly is ashamed of the source material
I think he's diving into it all the way. But there are aspects of the source material that one can be ashamed of and not all comics were created equal.
For example, I don't much care for the Silver Age, but Superman's depictions during this period in comics are so character-defining that I can't consider it a mistake for a movie to dive into that, at least in part.

>>212286813
Can't defend MoS without deflecting towards Marvel.

I can't get the meme of the one guy saying it was a porn parody out of my mind.

>>212287129
i know the movie is getting a lot of shit for it and maybe it's warranted and it will all be a clusterfuck mess but I do like how he's just putting in random Z-list characters as supporting set dressing. feels more like a standard issue comic book where if you pick up a Superman comic or even a Batman comic you'll probably have random DC heroes showing up as bit parts. remains to be seen how it's handled though hoping it's not a mess

>>212285181 (OP)
David Corenswet and Nicholas Hoult are relentlessly handsome.

>>212287040
Go watch a drama then, you dont need superpowers and a colorful suit for mundane stuff
You sound like you are coping with not being able to move on to staright up dramas so you need mundane stuff, or "depth" or "human drama" for justification for people who will deem your superhero flick or comicbook silly regardless

>>212285181 (OP)
That's a jew

>>212285181 (OP)
And with that one clip, Clark already has more lines than Snyder gave Cavill

>>212285181 (OP)
He almost sounds like Brendan Fraser, which makes me sad he never got to play Superman in his prime.

u like clips saar?

>>212287196
Yes. I think it's wrong to suggest Gunn is ashamed of the genre. He's clearly leaning into the comics and translating it into live action.
This isn't inherently always a good thing, as they are two different mediums with differing strengths and weaknesses.
To me, a good Superman film is one that strikes the right balance between Snyder's more lifelike, believable, hard sci-fi Superman, and Gunn's comic book shenanigans. And Donner's Superman, for as dated as it is, pretty much remains the best example.
I think Gunn was very well suited for a rag tag team like GotG, but I'm not sure about his Superman yet. Guess we'll see.

>>212287085
It lacks stylism and use whatever they can find
The only stylistic scenes are the krypton and Fortress of Solitude scenes
Every other scene feels like Bill Bixby Hulk
Batman 89 was the first live action superhero film that fully embraced superhero stylism

>>212287235
I like both. the small charming character building moments make the bombastic action more exciting. it's why Spider-Man using his powers to deliver pizza in the Raimi movies is also kino.

>>212286738
This is why you jeets are stupid and live in poverty

>>212287129
And what was your problem with man of Steel then?
No, he shield it with irony and comedy as plan B if someone complains so he can claim hes "only being ironic" while laughing nervously

>>212285258
That chin can cut diamonds. Nice tits though.

>>212287196
And you folks complained about too kuch characters crammed in in BvS

>>212285336
That's just messy hair. It's what I look like when I go to work on days when I'm too lazy to style it.

>>212286408
What did Gunn say about jeets?

>>212287388
eh, those were major characters that stole spotlight away from Superman. Batman gets more of an arc and development in BvS than Superman does. that said too many characters is the least of that movies problems.

>>212287414
they are shitting up the internet

The moment superhero fiction, movies and comics alike, has to have comedy and irony as copium is the moment I feel its time to move on from the genre
Sincerity>>>>>>>>>> irony
Beleive it or not, you can have fantasy without comedy

>>212287421
Well, no shit, BATMAN v Superman
Thats also why its darker in tone than Man of Steel, Batman works best in night scenes

>>212287361
Superman should have more levity, hopefulness, charm and heart.
MoS is to Superman what Bayformers is to Transformers.
I like it, but I'm not a Superman fan, that's the thing. Removing my personal bias aside,I can see it's Snyder's take on the character as opposed to a universal take that is firmly rooted in the way Superman has been depicted in the comics.

>>212287393
its clearly trendy poodle hair worn by hip hop fans who bully men in "too faggy" clothes while they would beat up men with the same poodle hair if it was ten years ago when it wasnt trendy and considered faggy
Clark Kent shouldnt follow fashion

>>212287496
yeah but it's also an alleged sequel to Man of Steel, and Superman feels sidelined in his own franchise and gets completely shit on in the fight to make Batman look cooler. The entire fight comes off like it was written by someone who likes Batman way more. At least Civil War despite being an Avengers 2.5 movie had the grace to let Cap win in his own movie.

>>212287525
Man of Steel had all that
And yet you wanted the Cavill version cancelled in favor of Gunn's vaniry project, nice try, dude
I dont ave a problem with personal prefference, I have a problem with dishonesty

>>212287525
>MoS is to Superman what Bayformers is to Transformers.
weirdly good comparison, even down to Optimus Prime turning into a total psychopath in those movies (I don't think Snyders Superman is a psychopath for the record but people have similar issues with his characterization)

>>212287578
Its not a solo superman film though, we would have gotten a Man of Steel 2 if it wasnt for Walter Hamda and his hateboner
Gunn originally wrote his Superman for the Hmada regime, when he then left Gunn continued his shitty bussines practice

>>212285181 (OP)
>yet another clip confirming Superman was made into a punching bag
What is Gunn's endgame here

>>212287122
Only the first seasons of each one

>>212287650
it's not, but it's the sequel to Man of Steel so it's fair to feel upset that the protagonist effectively got sidelined and shit on in his own sequel.

>>212285258
Hey look at me! IM ACTING!

>>212287650
> would have gotten a Man of Steel 2 if it wasnt for the fact it dropped 67% after its opening weekend

Fixed it

>>212287525
You mean like DCAU Superman? Same type of action, or why does it only count as "shallow" and "not hopeful" when done in live action?
Didnt you watch the trailer for Gunn's Superman? It has a kaiju with loads of destruction
Oh, I forgot, the kaiju looks silly for copium purposes
I guess thats also why people are OK with Gunn's splatter violence since its done for comedic effect, if Lois drives a chainsaw in Lex' crotch, people will chear bon the moment since its both comedic and girlboss

>>212287661
>jobs to Batman for more Batwank in BvS before dying in a 3v1
>jobs to Supergirl for a girl power moment then goes on about how much stronger Supergirl is than him in the CW show
>jobs to whoever the fuck the mech guy is in this movie, opens in a yamcha pose in the trailer
is this nigga just king of the jobbers

>>212287585
You're mistaking me for someone else despite there always being multiple posters that come and go each day. I already said I like MoS. I saw it more than once in the theater, which is really saying something, considering I'm not a Superman fan and prefer Batman. I'm just recognizing some of people's critiques as valid, because I still know how Superman operates. I can't say whether Gunn's Superman will be good or not, but there probably is a way to make a better film with this character than both of them will end up doing. Because if I was making a Superman movie, it would probably be a hybrid between the two approaches. Of hard sci-fi drama and sillier comic book stuff that allows itself to have charm.

>>212286188
Captain America is literally a soldier
> Cap films had the same coletheral damage
I don't think there's a single superhero film since MoS' release with comparable collateral damage besides Thanos' snap

>>212286512
>because everyone has a different idea of what Superman's appeal is, and how he should be depicted.
Kind, calm, gentle, kind of mature, has a positive, sun-like vibe, a gentleman, the last person on earth to resort to or threaten violence.

I think this stereotype is a must. He has so much power, so him being a calm gentleman balances his overpowered setting perfectly.
"A kind and calm gentlemen" should be Superman's surface persona or vibe.

Do you have IRL friends who are kind and calm gentlemen, who have a lot of composure and the ability to handle things, also kind of friendly and positive?
That's exactly why so many people consider Superman the ultimate role model.

>>212287834
your pic related threatened violence frequently though. he was an especially hotheaded retard in the JL show and had to always be calmed down by Batman

>>212287754
Nicew try, but why continue the DCEU at all then? Even Gunn's so called "DCU" is still DCEU since its a soft reboot with everything he wasnt involved in scrapped from continuity
If money was the issue, they woukd FULLY reboot
Good luck with Gunn's vanity project making more money than MoS
To save you some time, yes, i already now that you will excuse it with the new standards and people not being as intrested in superhero films now

>>212285258
Jeets love this tho. Bait them through upskirt panty shots is safer for women than wypipo actually going to the Rapeland.

>>212287811
Yes, yes he is.

>>212287827
OK, scizo, but you comapared him to Superman and argueed he was a better example of the milk and toast boy scout
Read what you wrote to refresh your memory

>>212287785
DCAU is pretty much untouchable. It does mog the movies. Although, again, there's aspects of MoS I really liked. Krypton in particular was perfect as far as I'm concerned. Even down to the flying penises that people memed to death.
It will never be depicted as well as Snyder did it.
But there were a lot of questionable decisions too, like Pa Kent's death. And Snyder's Superman arguably doesn't even become Superman until ZSJL, which was ironically the last time we'll ever see him.

>>212287964
Not my post you retard

>>212287827
>I don't think there's a single superhero film since MoS' release with comparable collateral damage besides Thanos' snap
Age of Ultron with the aftermath being adressed in Civil war

>>212287960
brutal

>>212287997
AoU had one small European shithole city destroyed with an official death toll of 177
https://comicbook.com/comicbook/news/man-of-steels-death-total-was-around-5000-people-according-to-director-zack-snyder/

>>212288000
cute boy

>>212287834
>Kind, calm, gentle, kind of mature, has a positive, sun-like vibe, a gentleman, the last person on earth to resort to or threaten violence.

>>212288077
>Snyder wasn't the blueprint

>>212287968
Pa kent died in Revee Superman
Revee Superman also had the suit being of Krypton origin and not made by his mom
You can thank Gunn's bud Hmada for that, Hamada had a no Cavill policy, Gunn originally wrote his Superman for the Hmada regime and corenswet was supposed to be side by side with Gal gadot, Mamoa and possibly Affleck (he wanted to quit cause he was tired of onstant changes, the time travel meddling of The Flush would work as a plot device to introduce the new Superman with a new lore
When Hamda had left, Gunn continued the no Cavill policy but also scrapped everything he wasnt involved in from continuity

>>212288025
>Goes on and on about hope and that Superman shouldnt kill
>One shithole European country
So this is the power of the "Superman way" and the tolerant rainbow children that is the Gunn fans?

>>212288154
>SNYDER ISNT TRUE TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!
>HA HA HA, SNYDER ISNT THE BLUEPRINT AND LACK ORIGINALITY, UNLIKE GUNN!
OK, scizo

>>212288077
Cavill Superman is someone I want to be, like James Bion, i dont feel that way about Corenswet
Corenswet is a Peter Parker
Superman should also be cool, being kindhearted alone isnt enough

>>212288343
*James Bond, typed too fast and tired

>>212288225
>Goes on and on about hope
NTA but that was me. Also, I really enjoyed the destruction in MoS. It's pretty much how I'd make a Superman movie. It's just that I know most diehard Superman fans wouldn't want to see that version of the character.
So in acknowledging it's not the best way to depict him, I am being the opposite of selfish.

>>212288407
So did you like or dislike MoS, you're giving off mixed signals?

>>212286167
It doesn't look like he is using his heat vision to the full extent, he is just pushing them out like cyclops would. Full man of murder vision would turn them into kfc.

>>212288343
You want to kill your dad?

>>212285316
not at all retard

>>212288343
You want to be crying while everybody is burning around you?

>>212288521
It's simple. I enjoyed MoS and it's very close to how I would make a Superman movie, with the exception that I would throw diehard fans more of a bone in terms of trying to make Superman more down to Earth, relatable, perhaps include something wholesome like saving a squirrel or whatever. I liked the movie from the perspective of not really being a Superman fan, i.e. I liked it as a sci fi action movie. I think Krypton was phenomenal. BvS and its depiction of Batman was good as well, and Batfleck still has the best look of any Batman to me.
Overall, I liked the Snyder-verse, despite being in hard disagreement with some decisions like Lex Luthor.
But for a more universally appealing Superman, I think the DCAU version is the best, and comics-wise, I'd say All Star Superman is the best, because it really nails the point of who he is supposed to be, regardless if you're a fan or not.

>>212285258
Jewish pantsu failed Gunnshill. Were doing the jeetspam now

>>212285181 (OP)
Why does Superjew constantly job

Skinny jew neck

>>212286939
The Donner Superman films were hard-carried by Reeves himself. That really was a good casting and he could make any type of Superman story work, whether it's serious or more campy.
There have been decent choices since, but Reeve nails it both looks and personality wise, all the rest play catch up to him.

>>212288854
because superman is a jobber see
>>212287811
>>212287960
>>212288000

destined to be batman fodder

>>212286585
*jewish
>>212287333
Can't wait to see superslop second weekend

>>212288861
Reeve did what he could, too bad about the script though

>>212288672
You had the wholesome moments in the montages the hit pieces memory holed
Yet here you are wanting Cavill cancelled in favor of Gunn's vanity project

>>212285181 (OP)
This is the kind of chad who gets two (2) not 1 girl hitting on him at work according to Gunn.

>>212288596
OK, scizo, but just yesterday you cried about Cavill Superman being coldhearted with no feeling of remorse

>>212289004
It's clearly meant to be a running gag, but it's part of the comics too

>>212289004
it's more believable than Maggie Gyllenhaal having guys fighting over her

>>212288583
Yes, troonface, jamie Lee curtis vibes, consoomer cope harder
You are part of the new pathetic breed of consoomers who even fap to women they convince themselves looks hot as fuck since they showed up in trailer for latest product

>>212288981
I'm not though, you're confusing me for other people. Then again, I'm pretty sure everyone on 4chan has at least mild autism as a prerequisite for posting here, myself likely included.

If anything, i would say that the Snyder's DC movies were too derivative of the DCAU cartoons, which is bad. People say they loved these cartoons, but they can barely remember most of the episodes, and some of the stories in the cartoons were really... inspired.

Superman cartoon literally ended with some important characters dying or betraying Superman (rightfully so), and Superman feeling dejected after he helped Darkseid taker over the world, because he was mind controlled (and raped).

>>212289004
What do you mean, goyim. low t jew boys are always pulling bad shiska biches. Our nasally prebescent voices and chutzpa is all it takes to get the shiska all moist in her motza if you know what I am saying.

>>212288540
>I-it d-doesnt look like hes using hsi heat vision to its full extent *swallows*
You also didnt explain the knocked out teeth which is more graphic than anything that has showed up in any of the Snyder Superman films

>>212289046
Maybe if he was still a ginger and not a hooked nosed jew

>>212289046
>It's clearly meant to be a running gag

not when its rumoured that this same chad stole the girlfriend of Lex Luthor.

>it's part of the comics too

i dont recall Jimmy ever being a womaniser

>>212288407
Dude, you just said "shithole European country", but sure, your consoomer mentality beats that out

gotta admit clark's voice is deep and manly

>>212288172
He's talking about HOW he died, stupid. Pa Kent died of a heart attack. A simple natural death that teaches clark that with all his strength and powers there's some things he just can't prevent.

Not the retarded driving into a tornado shit.

>>212289160
Hes refering to modern comcis which is his version of "true Superman"
Bisexual Superboy are also recent example the "real fans" claim always was there

>>212289119
>implying superman looks anything like that
>implying he doesn't mog you

>>212289260
wtf, he looks exactly the same as the supermerchant!

NEW CLIP BROS WE'RE EATING GOOD CLIPPERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1O-c-ukHmE

>>212289260
Thats Tobey Maguire looks
You look like him then? How would someone not looking like Corenswet make him look better than Cavill?

>>212289160
no, that's part of the gag

>>212289260
yes he mogs, still doesnt make him superman-worthy.

>>212289242
>A simple natural death that teaches clark that with all his strength and powers there's some things he just can't prevent.
Where this shit came from?
I keep seeing people say that this was the supposed lesson of Pa Kent death in the first Superman movie, but anyone who watched the movie knows that Pa Kent death just served as motivation for Superman to learn more about his powers and train harder so he can eventually CHANGE DEATH as impossible as that is, which serves the third act twist after Lois dies and Superman just says "Nope, not again" and TURNS BACK TIME preventing the outcome of her death.

So where is this poignant death lesson that never was present in that movie?

>>212289260
The only thing he has going for him is the hairline

So they just put the entire movie on YouTube prerelease?

Lol, lmao even

>>212289286
i kekd. might actually see this if people say it's any good

>>212289333
That guy is like James Gunn but for video games

>>212289260
>Piss taste like Coca Cola since poop taste worse

>>212289332
What level of cope is this?

>>212289330
Not just the movie but the books in general. When he was younger and learning he had these powers he started acting like a cocky asshole. IIRC, pa kent collapses after an argument with clark about it and he starts stomping off.

It's the same basic fucking schtick as with spiderman and uncle ben.

>>212289419
he looks weirdly like jensen ackles in the top right

>>212289209
I never did. You either can't differentiate between posters or you have PTSD from arguing about a fictional movie ever since it got released.

>>212289441
>It's the same basic fucking schtick as with spiderman and uncle ben.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82LaxcDTn0s

>>212289441
I've read the comics, and that doesn't happen in most stories. In the golden and silver age Pa Kent just dies of a heart attack because he is old, and not long after Ma Kent dies as well, because the comics back then treated the Kents as uninportent.
In the "modern age" after the reboot the Kents are alive and well, and Pa is around to teach Superman about life and stuff.

>>212289004
Best part of the movie so far. Still not enough to get me to watch it in theatres tho.

>>212289419
Put everything back into perspective and understand why this jew doesnt make the cut

>>212289442
he vaguely reminds me of brendan fraser but only a bit

>>212289286
Why are they spamming us with clips?

>>212289547
You'd be using some other excuse if he wasn't jewish. Either way, I'm sure you're a supermodel yourself.

>>212289594
the clips will continue until morale improves

>>212289595
>you need to be attractive yourself to have an opinion on a casting decision

>>212285258
my jewish wife...

>>212285336
>bully hair
More like bullied hair, the broccoli look is hilarious on anyone

>>212289552
I can see Fraser a lot now that you mention it

>>212285258

"Hey Smallville! Feel like a Box Lunch today?"

Really Gunn?

>>212289638
She isn't jewish, although the blue eye + black hair combo set off my jewdar too

>>212285181 (OP)
Regardless of if this movie is good or not marketing Superman as a family friendly children's character is probably a smart move. You have Batman if you want teenagers/grown ups.

>>212289419
That's not what he looks like in the movie. No fault of his of course.

>>212289716
wtf dropped

>>212286313
Think about it tho, if he works as a journalist no one would suspect him to be a good guy

>>212289260
whiter version of gyllenhaal

>>212289004

"Hey Jimmy. White meat or Dark?"

Damnit Gunn! This is a family movie.

>>212288343
>I prefer Superman to be more like James Bond.
But Bond is cunning, calculating, and manipulative. In a way, he is a righteous and patriotic version of Lex Luthor.

That kind of mindset or personality does not suit Superman.

Will be hilarious when Batman Part 2 outperforms Superman

>>212289419
shit....he doesn't look like superman at all
what the fuck is Gunn thinkinkg

>>212285181 (OP)
>>212285258
Lois and Jimmy look so fucking annoying

>>212289906
>I just wanna be the butter in their sandwich

>>212287895
> but why continue the DCEU at all then?

Superman Returns under performed. They weren’t going to reboot Superman a third time when they were playing catchup to the MCU. They demanded Batman to be in the next one in hopes to sell the next Superman movie as pure damage control.

>>212290208
I didnt say that, asshole, I said that just like James Bond he should be someone you want to be
James Bond is Batman, even down to being an orphan

>>212289594
>Why are they spamming us with clips?
they are INSECURE as fuck

or the insider numbers or predictions are very bad. I think the latter

>>212289419
Yes, what level of copium are you on? Women prefer Cavill over that boy

>>212290305
>Women prefer Cavill over that boy
Men and women.
NTA

>>212289467
Then dont reply aggresivly and act like "gotcha" if you didnt look up what it was if response for in the first place
Damn, you are stupid

>>212290264
You didnt answer my question, DCEU went on way beyond BvS
Theres something else at play here and you know it

>>212289419
Is that Tobey Maguire's brother?

>>212289419
If you werent on massive loads of copium you would point out his boyish looks

>>212289419
Practical with a Superman who can use his heat vision in two different directions

>>212290424
You’re not very bright are you? You were crying about why there wasn’t a MOS 2. That was it never got a direct sequel. DC pretty much got involved after it fell off a cliff.

>>212289595
So someone not being a supermodel means Corenswet looks better than Cavill? I take it you look better than Cavill?

>>212289639
And worn by bullies listening to trendy hip hop
The hilarity comes from them acting all though and gangsta with the poodl

>>212286408
>literally puts a jeet front and center helping superman in the movie
>SAAAR HES DOING A RACISM SAAR CANCEL THIS BLOODY BICHT BENCHORD SAAAAR

>>212290588
Imagine then making Empire Strikes Back but wuíthout Luke just cause A New Hope flopped, thats how retarded it is
Cavill Superman is the origin character
If money was the issue, no DCEU films after MoS would be made at all

>>212290305
i'm a man and i would let cavill fuck me in the ass. that man is hot

>>212289547
>>212289635
>>212289119
>>212288860
>>212287248

>incels taking a break crying about children's cartoons and muh palestine genocide to instead lose their minds because apparently the superman actor is jewish
p funny

>>212290743
I wouldnt go that far, I wish I was him, but whatever floats your boat

>>212290777
>Being superserious about how Man of Steel isnt true to the comics and with a passion cry about how Cavill needs to be cancelled
>Claim others are nerds with no life
Also, your bud complained about Drumpf and Russia and claimed Superman is the symbol of hope against them, so logically then his Superman should attack Israel or at least meta jab Israel the same way his Superman will have meta jabs against Drumpf and Putin

>>212290730
There wouldn’t have been an Empire Strikes Back had New Hope flopped. Snyder should’ve considered himself lucky the WB was so desperate to catch up to the MCU and too infested in him getting his DC Universe off the ground that they didn’t replace him.

>>212290848
>my bud
lol this movie looks like shit and I voted for trump 3 times and will vote for him a 4th hopefully. I don't give a shit about Putin I'm not being conscripted to die for him in a forever war, my country is at peace.

Just it's funny how schizo you goblins are.

>>212285181 (OP)
I can't get over the shitty twilight filter. Makes him look like shit in all his Superman scenes.

>>212289260
>>Look at this photo where he almost doesn't look like a bignosed Kike.
Cringe kike

>>212285653
Shitty comeback and loser posture makes me think you were bullied relentlessly in school

>>212286289
It’s not even making 500M, it’s already flopping on china LOL

>>212291216
NTA.
Wait, it already aired in China?

>>212291233
Presales are lower than the flash there

>>212291267
But The Flash is absolute dogshit and kind of an obscure IP.
Superman is quite a big IP

Funny if true

>>212291164
>superjew will make millions and live a long happy life
>meanwhile, thousands of palestinians die screaming daily
where is allah?

>>212291267
China loved Flash more than America did, really weird

>>212291383
The Flash wasn’t a bad movie and only bombed because boycott of Ezra.

>>212291520
The Flash was a bad movie.
It was also a stupid movie clearly made by producers trying to cap on what they thought "people were into". You can see this because of Michael Keaton and all the stupid CGI cameos.

>>212285181 (OP)
If axel braun directed a superbowl commercial

>>212291595
Nobody complained about Spider Man No Way Home doing the same thing. And The Flash was made before that coke but had bunch of delays because of Covid

>>212285181 (OP)
Not my superman.

Pic related is my hero.

>>212291520
Yea it increasingly seems to be the reason, especially since people are still attacking him every time he does or says anything
If the movie was just shit they would have left him alone after the film came out, but now he can’t breathe without getting mobbed

>>212291383
>can dub over ezra's stupid faggot voice and delivery
i can see why they might like it more

>>212291649
I watched both movies, but here's the biggest difference.

While both movies were clearly made by executives trying to bank on cameos and nostalgia, Spider-Man: No Way Home tries to homage the past Spider-Man actors/movies in substantial ways, showing how they are from where their movies stopped and hinting at places they could potentially go, even if you can't see it. The worlds of those movies also weren't erased. The characters just came in, helped the current Spider-Man, and then went back home to continue their lives.

Meanwhile The Flash is trying to erase the past, not only the so called Snyderverse, but also because of Gunn involvement also the Burtonverse, and even before Gunn the idea was to merge in some weird fucking way the Burtonverse and the Snyderverse together into a new convoluted universe. The movie was also filled with course corrections regarding those movies/universes as if the executives were somewhat ashamed of them. The whole thing is also nothing but an excuse to reboot shit from the ground up. It's a movie full of shitty agendas.

One is a somewhat fun if soulless team-up movie banking on nostalgia, the other is a convoluted mess of a reboot preying on nostalgia.

>no neck superman
>looks worse because of the horrid collar
ICK

>>212290777
Uhhhhh, jew.

>>212291806
Which scene in Flash establishes that any universe is erased?

>>212291806
That makes sense. I just didn’t find it bad compared to so many other soulless capeshit moves. And I hated Ezra’s Barry in the JL movie

>>212291932
thousands of palestinians die screaming daily

>>212292018
Nah, his argument oversimplifies both films.
The Flash doesn't "erase" the Snyderverse or Burtonverse but blends them for a DC reset, tackling things like grief and redemption. Calling No Way Home “fun" and The Flash a "convoluted mess" ignores the different goals of both films. One celebrated legacy, the other celebrates legacy while having to also navigate a reboot and give it heartfelt stakes. Both partly rely on nostalgia, but The Flash’s issues reflected studio meddling, not a lack of soul.
In a perfect world, we would have gotten an actual Flash movie without multiverse elements that Grant Morrison and Ezra had written but WB said no.

>>212292554
C'mon, man.
Spider-Man: No Way Home could have, for example, shit on The Amazing Spider-Man movies, since they weren't that beloved. But despite the producers desire to rely on nostalgia, and they did rely heavily on it, what with all those corny as fuck callbacks to all the random bits of dialogue from Sam Raimi's movies, they remained respectful to Garfield's character, and even took it to some heartfelt places. It also helps that it is a Spider-Man movie about other Spider-Men. To the point audiences actually wanted to see more out of Garfield's Spidey.

Meanwhile The Flash just added Michael Keaton because it was Michael Keaton, and they thought there were still people nostalgic for the Tim Burton's movies. Not for anything related to Burton's ideas, though, because they stripped that movie from anything really related to Batman an Batman Returns. Keaton was just there because they were priming to bring him back as an actor so they could replace Ben Affleck as their Batman. For some reason everything else, outside of Keaton, relates to the Snyder's movies, that they're trying to reboot, creating this weird convoluted scenario that won't make anyone happy.
Reminder that originally the new universe would essentially be what their version of Snyderverse was at that point, but with Keaton being revealed as having survived and becoming the mainstay Batman, and in this new timeline Keaton's new Bats isn't a killer either because that also changes since it is a no-no. Basically the execs picking and choosing shit not based on what makes sense, but what they think the audience want to see in a very stupid ways.
Then Gunn came in and said nah to the Keaton plan, and erased that shit, so the last scene with Keaton in that movie is him just dying. The Flash now just finds himself stranded in another universe, that also looks like Snyderverse but not really. And that's it. Just a mess.

>>212285181 (OP)
Sir I am always the Snyder jeet and now I am redeemed...fuck you Gunn you hack

>>212292858
You hallucinated that stuff about Flash. A ton of false narratives were created in the run up to the film based on set photos from fuckin Batgirl instead of any real statement or scene from the movie. You thinking it’s a mess is just your opinion based on that confirmation bias.
Plus other Snyder diehard fans decided they hated the movie before you saw it. Before it even finished filming actually, because Ray Fisher was cut from the film for refusing to negotiate with WB.
I choose to evaluate films in the context of themselves on their own merits, not based on the outside factors that pollute or muddy the discussion of it. Flash, whether by design or not, has so much irrelevant bullshit being brought up that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a watchable movie.

>>212293175
Most laughable part about it is people demanding Ezra be replaced. The movie was already filmed!

>>212293175
>You hallucinated that stuff about Flash.
You're telling me the plan wasn't to replace Ben Affleck with Michael Keaton, with Keaton essentially playing the same role Affleck played, that is of the main Batman?
Gunn was the one to replace that scene with a gag featuring George Clooney.

>>212285286
based hater
>>212285181 (OP)
why are they dressed up like they're in the 80s?

This is the best Lois put on screen lmao if you refuse to believe this you're a homo. I like what I've seen with Superman but I do need to see the whole movie for a proper judgement.

>>212285948
yes, Zod and his pals were all massive dicks, tell me something I don't know

>>212285181 (OP)
Yawn.

>>212285948
The production design, especially for the Kryptonians was peak

>>212293217
He actually continued working on the movie throughout 2022 into 2023 because it wasn’t finished, WB was doing volume capture with him that summer in LA right after he got back from Hawaii in May 2022 and then pickups for DeLuca/Abdy then Gunn
People with a straight face will try to claim WB hid him from law enforcement so he could work on the movie, instead of acknowledging that no law enforcement was ever even looking for him and they were lied to by media Jews and featherniggers

>>212285181 (OP)
Jesus christ shes insufferable

>>212285181 (OP)
Is lois lane a trans what am i watching all her psotures all her mannerisms are so boyish

>>212286408
because he actually IS a racist

>>212286399
sadly that seems to be the case. i get less excited for the movie with every new clip i see.

>>212287333
you seem triggered by jeets

>>212293946
No such thing as being racist against jeets

>>212285181 (OP)
What's wrong with all their voices?

>>212294029
oy vey I wonder who made this post

>>212293855
Social media has ruined society

>>212287827
MoS had no more damage than an average episode of a cartoon. Capeshit fans are just massive hypocrites and fags.

>>212288025
>entire city gets vaporised
>Only 177 killed

Yeah, this is bullshit and literally impossible.

>>212285773
Man of Steel sucks, get over it. I saw it when I was thirteen in theaters and I almost fell asleep.

>>212286784
Same

>>212289004
>skinny balding jew manlet gets all the girls
>Superman has to settle for some man-jaw

Okay, Gunn.

>>212294330
>>212288025
I remember this shit from back then. It was hilarious when the Civil War trailer dropped showing the low as fuck numbers of deaths. Everyone knew it was because of the MoS backlash.

>>212289419
He looks way better IRL than in the movie. The suit, the hair everything is fucking awful.

Looks like a CW superhero show.

>>212293855
My boy (ambiguous) Ezra was dragged through the mud

>>212294439
fuck me ai can do better than this, in fact im going to make an ai version of this right now

>>212294398
They were bullshitting since the start. Remember that only a few hundred people died in the battle of New York. The same battle that had giant alien monsters crashing through skyscrapers and Hulk rampaging through the city.

>>212294439
We didn't had fancy AI back then.

>>212285258
do women really?

>>212294453
It’s still happening/never stopped
People want him dead

why the hair

if it turns out broccoli hair was some 50's thing already im gonna be so incredibly mildly upset i may just even change tabs and contemplate it for a few seconds before moving on. im fuckin serious