Thread 212289406

>Who is the worst parent in trek?
>Are you pawning the kids off to the grandparents on earth or are you taking them into battle with the dominion?
>Will Klingon school fix your child's theiving?
>Would you bang Lwaxana just to let her talk dirty talk to you in ships computer?

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>>212289240
I don't
>>212289406 (OP)
It's just meant to be /trek/ in the subject line, that way people who don't want to see it can filter it easily.

>>212289406 (OP)
This thread was created before the old one hit bump limit.

I am Landru.

>>212289475
>I don't
Backlinks help for archival, retard

>>212289710
Then why didn't you put it in your comment complaining or do you just exist to nitpick and not contribute effort

>>212289710
Again, nobody cares about that but reddit detective schizos. I make half the /trek/s these days and I never backlink. On purpose.

>>212289827
>do you just exist to nitpick and not contribute effort
I would rather someone who isn't a retard making the threads personally but you're welcome to get butt hurt about it. I will nitpick to my hearts content.
>>212289890
>retarded on purpose
Carry on.

>>212289942
No, I'm just trying to make this general better.
The only purpose of backlinking is to enable the most schizo posters who are going to poopdickschizo post like pic related.
>oh well actually you're the DS9 hater because blah blah blah
>well, you see, a similar argument was made in 2015 so you're clearly the VOY seether!
and so on and so forth, just shitty metaposting that is destructive to threads like this. So if my not backlinking helps prevent that even just a little, I'm doing my part.

>>212289406 (OP)
Worst parent is Noonien Soong

>>212290159
Nobody has ever liked MKULTRA

>>212289406 (OP)
Gul Dukat worst

>>212289406 (OP)
>>Who is the worst parent in trek?

Enabrain Tain.

Great character though.

>>212290048
That's pretty cringe. I see your point

>>212289475
>NOOOOOOO BUT LE FILTER
Just don't click on threads you don't like you dumb nigger.

>>212289406 (OP)
Trip and T’Pol were the worst parents cause their baby croaked

>>212289406 (OP)
Icheb's parents

>>212290765
kek yeah, those were pretty bad for sure

>>212290254
Now Tain I can get into.

>>212290959
what

>Star Trek deals with..... SOCIAL ISSUES!!!!!
who was the faggot who decided this should be a thing

it wasn't gene, he just wanted to give oil massages to women of every color

The realest criticism I ever saw of Trek was when these guys pointed how how Marina Sirtis stopped acting like a weird creepy alien psychic as the show went on and just started acting like Marina Sirtis.

>>212291156
People can want more than one thing.
Gene, like many other men, realized that being an optimistic futurist who took strong stances on social issues was a great way to get laid.

>>212291190
no he didn't

>>212290959
I chuckled

>>212289633
bump limit is 310

>>212289890
That's just sickening.

>>212290765
>>212290797

Seven's parents too while we're on the topic.

>>212291177
>The realest criticism I ever saw of Trek was when these guys pointed how how Marina Sirtis stopped acting like a weird creepy alien psychic as the show went on and just started acting like Marina Sirtis.

I think it was for the better. Same goes for Jadzia Dax when they stopped trying to play her as an old man in a woman's body and just let her be a woman. If a character has a flawed premise then sometimes its just better to play them like a normal person and ignore the premise.

>>212291829
The character of Jadzia wasn't a flawed premise at all; they just cast an actress that wasn't talented enough to pull off the role.

>>212291850

I disagree. I think its too weird of a concept for anyone to pull off convincingly. Ezri Dax's interpretation makes more sense, she's basically a young woman; but she has a bunch of intrusive thoughts that confuse her. That's understandable. A character that has an amalgam personality of 8 or 9 different people most of whom are poorly defined is too abstract a concept to be acted out coherently.

>>212292070
What do you mean? Ezri is just the same character + Jadzia. She still is meant to do the Kurzon thing and she does a better job than Terry Farrell.

Having Dax assume the personality of the most recent host makes sense to me. Having growing pains into assuming that role also makes sense to me as well as having odd quirks from previous hosts. Rather than just being a huge amalgamation/personality blob from all previous hosts. I don't really see a problem with her character. I don't think the actress did a bad job nor do I think another actress would have done exceedingly better at the role.

>>212292271
You are actually retarded

>>212289475
>It's just meant to be /trek/ in the subject line, that way people who don't want to see it can filter it easily.
They can filter it easily even with other stuff in the subject line.
/\/trek\//i;boards:tv;type:subject,comment;op:only
The thing you're pointing out isn't even a problem.

>>212292271

She plays the character differently because the character is written differently.

Jadzia is written as a bawdy old man in a young woman's body and its a weird character that doesn't work. Ezri is written as a confused young woman with a bunch of schizo voices in her head and it works much better.

>>212292070
I’ve always had a problem with Ezri because she’s not different enough from Jadzia. All of Dax’s other hosts seem so different from one another and yet the writes chose to stick it into another black haired, white lady, starfleet officer. It’s boring. The next Dax should’ve been significantly different well still keeping the same morals and ideas of the Dax symboint that had been previously established. I don’t care that you guys think Ezri is cute.

>>212292336
Incorrect formatting makes baby Jesus cry

I hate Jadzia
I hate Ezri
I hate Trill

All of it is a stupid, uninteresting, waste of my life to have to had watch in Star Trek. It is simply a retarded concept that does not work.

>>212292686
The formatting is correct.

>>212292697
the absolute worst is the trill "kidnapping" episode
got what a pain that one is to watch

>>212292697
>It is simply a retarded concept that does not work.
It works fine, you're just shitting your pants for no reason. Symbiosis isn't really that far fetched.

Jadzia actually works fine until they try to notgay her with Worf. And I like Worf.

>>212292697
I’m gonna disagree with you in saying that the entire idea of the trill is retarded. Had Zia and Ezri sure what we but the trill is an interesting concept it’s just been mishandled by writers. It’s hard to write a person who’s had 8 lifetimes and not just make them a shit supporting character.

>>212292761
It's not that it's far fetched it's that they cpuld not ever write it in any way that wasn't absolute shit. If Trill were forgotten about after that episode where Crusher refused to be gay with one it would have been fine. As a alien species I just want them all gassed so I don't have to learn about in minute detail how fucking boring they are.

>>212290959
Nude. Tain.

>>212292795
>trill is an interesting concept
It really isn't. Maybe you mean "novel" even though it also isn't.

>>212292897
Trill's are more interesting than Betazoids.

>>212292935
Ever single Trill episode FUCKING BLOWS. Lwaxana episodes don't. You're wrong.

>>212292959
Wrong about what? We were merely talking about concept. You deciding that some particular character is more interesting to you is not an argument.

>>212292935
God betazoids suck. I know Troi is only half but what does she ever really do but vaguely sense stuff that any person could pick up on if they had basic social skills. Lwaxana is hot though, always reminded me of my grandma.

>my personality is where i roleplay as a schizo and talk about random characters no one, especially the audience, knows, who are more vastly more interesting and entertaining than I am, trust me LOL

that's Trill. fuck them and fuck you for defending this retarded slop i was forced to watch

>>212281878
Worf's hotwife Jadzia was so cute in this episode.

>>212293052
No need to be such a butt mad faggot just because you have the objectively wrong opinion.

>>212293093
go ahead and write about all the Trill things that happened in DS9 that you found INTERESTING. you won't unless you have a humiliation fetish or something

>>212293052
This is a fault on the writers. If trill characters were actually played and written like beings with multiple lifetimes of age and experience they’d be far more interesting. The Jadzia/Curzon mix we get is just kind of a dykey chick. I don’t even think an older trill would even want to join starfleet. Again a fault on the writers not the concept.

>>212293190
the writers came up with the concept. in reality Trill would just behave as normal fucking people. if they weren't constantly reminding you AKSHUALLY I KNOW CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS HOST no one would fucking care. so yes it is a stupid concept that the writers should have ever known better than to entertain for making one of the main characters.

>>212293236
I agree with you that they would behave more like normal people and I also agree with you that maybe for a main character it was a stretch for the writers, but I still like the idea and think it has some merit as a sci-fi concept.

>>212293280
Jadzia could have worked if she was just a normal person with an actual character and something to do ASIDE FROM Trill issues and
>I am Sisko's friend and advisor Kurzon Dax
I don't fucking know how they insisted on that shit for so long when it NEVER worked and was so physically painful to watch. Just let her have like, a thing that's her own. Some kind of character arc or something that is NOT Trill related. You can even keep her gimmicks like the Klingon episode and her being a gossip and stuff. Just the fact that she had absolutely nothing going for her except being a vessel for extremely shit Trill episodes...ugh.

>>212293444
Yeah I mean I get it. Fair criticism. I especially never liked the overly political/cultural angle that some trill episodes tried to take. Always felt mean spirited and culty. You’d think the trill would be somewhat chill people considering how much they know and have seen. But in the end anon I agree with you. Jadzia being a curzon mix is cringe and she should be her own person. Like the child is a combination of two parents the trill should be the combination of a symbiont and its host.

>>212284976
>>212285300
>>212285799
PRO >
DS9 >>
TNG >
ENT = PIC = LD = SNW >
Voyager >>
TOS >
765874 >>
STD >>
TAS >>
STII The Wrath Of Khan >
STVIII First Contact >
The Voyage Home >
STVI Undiscovered Country >
STIII The Search For Spock >
STVII Generations >
ST The Motion Picture >
STX Nemesis >
STIX Insurrection >
STV The Final Frontier >
Abrams >>
Short Treks

(Note: All Star Trek after VOY season 4, episode 1 "Scorpion: Part II" is nutrek)

jadzia is fine and i'm laffin that these niggers can't have a good time lol >>212293444
>>212293655

>>212293861
I like DS9, but jadzia is a weaker character and the whole Ezri thing makes it that more obvious. Quark for the win bro.

What's the difference between commanding "fire torpedoes" and "fire torpedoes, full spread"?
I don't think they ever specify firing a certain amount of torpedoes unless it's like "fire a torpedo", after that it's just "fire torpedos". Wouldn't it make sense to order shit like "fire a torpedo at *this system*, then fire torpedo *here*, and for good measure fire three torpedos aimed at their bridge just to ensure that they're dead".
I know sometimes they *aim* with the phasers but torpedos just seem to be the "fuck you die now" answer and I demand to know the minutiae behind the torpedo procedure according to Starfleet regulations.

Also I paused Voyager to make this post and screencapped the result for your viewing pleasure. S2:E6 - Twisted 24:36 minutes in.

>>212294378
have sex nerd

>>212294378
You should pause voyager forever and never pick it back up again. But hey neelix will always be there for you to make his orange crusty pube stew, so enjoy your watch.

>>212294489
I have, it's overrated.

>>212294621
Sex is not overrated my guy. The Chads Kirk and Riker both know this. You are lost.

>>212294707
I'm not your "guy" friend.

>>212295073
I’m sorry you’re a virgin “trekker” You’d be pissed at how good pussy felt if you could get it. Think of Trip and T’Pol. Think of how you’ll never have that.

>>212295155
nta (regular married sex-haver here) but god i want a hottie shorthaired space elf

>>212295155
Reading isn't your strong suit is it.

posting this from the old thread because it was well made and I wanted to watch it while hanging out ITT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOpwuHFs4fc [Embed]

why did we never get a real species name for these guys?

>https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Undine
>species 8472... AKA undyne undertale

>>212296672
For good reason.

>>212296954
but I can't settle for overseers or "the hierarchy" like what does that even mean? what is this, halo?

>>212292959
Based

>>212293846
Terrible movie rankings, like a 5 year olds

>>212295073
>nu trek
Virgin tell

I love Neex
I want to clap his cheeks

in some ways this is the most hilarious dukat, he's really doing well with the fake humble act but he just can't help it and the mask slips just briefly now and then. Marc was so good in this role its dumb to say he was underutilized but I still wish we got more.

>>212294707
Dukat was as much a manwhore as the meme version of Kirk is believed to be, but only with Bajorans.

>>212294378
full spread is fire everything

fucking backlink next time.

>>212298141
it was a fire everything hazard

>>212298228
No

>>212298228
lol let it go, if you missed the thread you missed it no-ones fault but your own

>>212298274
Funny but unfair

>>212298295
but still funny

>>212298089
what was funny was how the signature swagger when he walks gives him away. Kira would have clocked him immediately

>>212298839
when he first meets winn he's hiding it but it takes only minutes before he starts swaggering, he just can't help it

whats so quantum about a quantum torpedo?

>>212298922
It carries discrete packets of destruction.

>>212298922
real answer its a quantum singularity implosion rather then a matter anti matter explosion like a photon torpedo, as is always the case the romulans invented it first

>>212298408
what am I looking at?

>>212294378
>>212295155
>>212297408

I think the trill concept is fine, the problem is the execution. It felt like we were constantly just being told 'Curzon did this, Curzon did that', instead of showing specific character traits from previous hosts.

I'm ok with Jadzia and Ezri, but that nigga Curzon Dax is one of my most hated characters in all of trek. Maybe they should have tried giving Dax multiple personalities instead though I doubt Terry Farell has the acting ability to pull that off.

>>212299768
do u think terry and perry got along when they grew up? do you think they ever did it with each other?

>>212299768
>Maybe they should have tried giving Dax multiple personalities instead though I doubt Terry Farell has the acting ability to pull that off.
Imagine if they picked someone who could pull that off. Would have been kino

>>212289406 (OP)
It was made by a globo athiest director

no beach to walk on...

>>212300376
That's every director in Hollywood except Mel Gibson. Thanks for the shocking factoid.

>>212289406 (OP)
>Who is the worst parent in trek?
This guy. He tried his best, earnestly. and completely failed to understand his "child." In doing so, broke him in ways that took decades to fix.
Mora Pol is a tragic figure, all the more so for trying his best; and Odo is his shattered collateral laid bare for all to see.

>>212300548
>Mora Pol is a tragic figure
Not really. He's your run of the mill garden variety malignant narcissist parent. Excellent character though.

>>212300593
>malignant narcissist
I don't have experience with malignant narcissists so I will take the word for it. From my perspective it seemed like he was unable to connect because he was dealing with a literal alien life form that was completely inscrutable. So the "trying my best, but fucked it up" angle makes sense considering that this was a guy trying to figure out a pile of goo.
But if you or any other anon says Pol is a stand-in for a narcissist parent, I'll believe them because it makes sense. Especially the episode where Pol tries to butt into Odos parenting technique.

>>212300548
He was right though, Odo failed twice as a parent to the babby Jemhadar and Changeling because he was a pussy. Beat yo kids if you don't want them to fail.

I have a confession. I've only seen TOS, TNG, DS9, The Motion Picture, Wrath of Khan, and the first JJ Abrams Star Trek.

>>212300679
I'm not saying he was bad for enforcing boundaries and discipline, I'm saying he was bad because he never tried to understand Odo.

>>212300669
You should rewatch those episodes and notice how even though he hurt Odo and Odo explains it to him how he feels, he always makes it about himself and his own ego.
>I wanna have a relationship with you it's not fair that you don't want that with me
>I was forced to do what I did to you I had reasons
>You just don't understand
>Poor me you don't appreciate me after everything I did for you
He's not as evil as it gets or anything but it's very easy to clock if you've ever dealt with a person like this, especially a parent.

what are the geezes circlejerking about today?

>>212300754
Yeah, I see it now that you point it out. Grim but also gives me a reason to rewatch.

>>212292515
Jadzia was probably schizo the first few years too.

>>212300863
Imagine having a gay slug talking about sodomy in your head all day long

>>212300874
imagine it SINGING about sodomy all day long
https://youtu.be/Ulb0pLBgRCw?feature=shared

>>212300696
Watch Undiscovered Country NOW you uncultured swine.

no trek on h&i tonight, looks like they're doing a twilight zone marathon until the 7th

>>212300898
the sexuality of a Trill must be a mess
(reminder that Doctor McCoy shagged Dax as well)

>>212300931
why do geezers love live tv? just put your rotten 480i dvds on

>>212300991
man why did you remind me? i had successfully forgotten about that...

>>212300901
Watching the Orville right now purely out of curiosity. (It's better than I thought desu considering Seth). After that I think I'm gonna go through all the Trek movies in order up until nu-trek. I've heard the TNG films are not very good, though so I guess I'll get to find that out on my own.

>>212301092
First Contact is fine if you like Borg stuff. The other three are pretty bad, though.

>>212300991
she was lying for attention because she is a liar and an attention whore. trill werent mingling with humans until the tng era

>>212300901
>Undiscovered Country
I just remembered that that movie had a shapeshifter in it with that prisonbreak that made absolutely no sense, like much of that film, seriously why do people cream over it? Just because it was a competent send off after the shitshow that was Star Trek V?
Kinda like how All Good Things is a completely mediocre to average episode that makes very little sense but gets a pass because of the final poker scene.

>>212301301
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Souls

>>212301301
nonsense

>>212301381
its a good movie. the only real plot hole is using enterprise crew for the assassination instead of crew from warbird.

>>212301393
>TROI: It's Ambassador Odan. I continually feel fluctuations of emotion from him.
>PICARD: Perhaps it's perfectly normal among the Trill.
>TROI: It could be. We know so very little about them.
>PICARD: Yes. Quite.
impossible to know so very little about a species they have been hanging out with for 100 years.
everything we learn about the trill after the host is worm propaganda so they dont get kicked out of the federation for being slavers

>>212301582
>they have been hanging out with for 100 years.
you do realize not all trills are joined right? in fact very few are, they were keeping it secret

>>212301687
I don't remember the book that well.
if it was "out" by TOS era

>>212301730
what book? what are you talking about?

>>212298228
There is a backlink in the OP faggot

>>212301830
Lives of Dax
in which each chapter is a different host

>>212301975
those aren't canon dax fucking mccoy is canon because of the tribble episode

>>212302021
no, Dax being a lying attention whore is canon because of the Tribble episode

>>212302046
you're an idiot

>>212302021
you inferred that because she implied it because she is a lying attention whore. but it is not explicitly stated and therefore not canon. best you can say is they met.
SISKO: That must be McCoy, the ship's doctor.
DAX: McCoy. McCoy.
MCCOY: Well, the nearest thing I can figure out is that they're born pregnant, which seems to be quite a timesaver.
DAX: Leonard McCoy. I met him when he was a student at Ol' Miss.
SISKO: Who met him, Curzon?
DAX: No, my host at the time was Emony. She was on Earth judging a gymnastics competition. I had a feeling he'd become a doctor. He had the hands of a surgeon.

>>212302072
>I had a feeling he'd become a doctor. He had the hands of a surgeon.
this is how you know shes lying for attention. taking credit for predicting he would be a doctor. as if every med student doesnt tell you theyre going to be a doctor within 30 seconds of meeting them

>>212302072
are you a bot? nothing you post makes sense, you just keep going round and round in circles everything its pointed out you are wrong instead of addressing the point made you switch to another line of thought attempting to bring it back to your idiotic theory. Its very obvious what you are doing, your complete lack of understanding of very very obvious text, not even subtext just blaring in your face text is what makes me think you are either a bot or mentally deficient in some way.

>>212302171
>DON'T FORGET I WAS ALIVE DURING THIS TIME THIS IS ALL SO VERY SPECIAL FOR MEEEEEE IN PARTICULAR LOOK AT THIS TRICORDER OMG I REMEMBER THIS xD

>>212302174
How is it even possible that anyone with half a brain could deny that Curzon Dax met Doctor McCoy and might have been lovers?! I mean, come on: Curzon Dax was on active duty in the 2290s while McCoy was dishing out medical wisdom on the Enterprise, and every fool with access to the Starfleet archives can see the overlap. The so-called “Unity Gala” on Betazed in 2293? Curzon and Bones side by side on the guest list! And don’t give me that “maybe they were just colleagues” nonsense when there’s a holovideo showing Curzon dragging McCoy to the dance floor like a lovesick teenager! Get out of here with the claims of “professional respect” when Curzon’s personal logs reveal late-night message transmissions filled with longing, and McCoy’s private tricorder case hiding a crumpled note signed “Ever yours, Curzon.” Are you telling me you think the Trill symbiont doesn’t keep every precious moment imprinted forever? The idea that Jadzia could undergo a memory extraction and not blow the roof off this galaxy is laughable,every heart-rate spike and tear-duct quiver during a holo projection of Bones screams “romantic entanglement” louder than a Klingon battle shout. And what about the personal testimonies? Spock’s archival interview recalling whispered confessions under Betazed’s binary moons, or Dr. Janet Wallace’s account of clandestine strolls between the medbay and the officers’ lounge? It’s like the universe is conspiring against us with all these breadcrumbs, and yet skeptics still sit on their thumbs and dismiss it all as a “subtle bond” or “close friendship.” Please! When the descendants of Doctor McCoy open his estate and we find a preserved leather messenger bag bearing Trill insignia in his quarters, will you finally swallow your pride and admit the truth?

>>212302171
>>212302276
the writers said they wrote Dax in the episode as the audience insert who would be fan spazing out over all the details, obviously they couldn't have the others doing it.

>>212302344
>writers said
NOT ON SCREEN
=
POOP

>>212302287
see what I mean? yea you are just AI posting, nothing you post makes any sense

>>212302344
>the audience insert who would be fan spazing out over all the details
Fans don't want to fucking see that. god i hate these fag writers.

>>212302374
>everything is AI
typical geezer loser

>>212302359
how desperate for attention are you? do you just want a (you) no matter how you get it? well here you go spergo, another (you) just for (you)

>>212302375
it was a long time ago, and yes it makes sense for Dax who is 300 years old to know about the era and be nostalgic about it, the episode is near perfect with Bashir not understanding how the turbo lifts work, O'brian is confused by the tech, Worf is embarrassed by the klingons, Sisko is fanboying over Kirk, and Dax is just enamoured by seeing it all again.

>>212302399
oh so you really are the nu-trek fag desperate for attention no matter what form it comes in. Got it, you are so sad.

>>212302417
Your “behind-the-scenes” retcon can’t erase the episodes we already said. On-screen is law; everything else is just hot air.

>>212302534
correct and everything on screen makes sense, your fan-fiction however does not, its really that simple.

>everything I don't like, the character is lying
typical geezer

Imagine being Curzon and having a sudden intrusive memory of remembering McCoy rearranging your guts during a tense Klingon treaty negotiation

>>212302574
and that is really why he was called Bones

>>212302599
Khitomer? I barely knew 'er!

>>212302574
that was 3 lifetimes ago for curzon, that was 5 life times ago for ezri, most of the Dax's it seems fucked...a lot apart from tobin of course.

>>212302641
one of them had to be gay statiscally
but they all were trans allegory all along

>>212302738
>but they all were trans allegory all along
What, that all trannys are worm parasites?

>>212302738
nope none of them were statistically since none of them were abused as children and grew up in a futuristic society where proper medical care would've been available their is pretty much zero chance any of them would've had a such a major mental disorder. Jorius the psycopath snuck through cause he dedicated his life to getting a symbiote

what if you had a race that through some science fiction contrivance, is effectively immortal via living multiple lifetimes as different individuals, each iteration being slightly different and unique but still retaining the memories and formative experiences of the previous lifetimes?

>>212302834
implying being groomed to be joined is not itself an abuse

>>212302517
>sees the nu-trek fag everywhere
>has totally not gone schizo

>>212302738
Tobin wasn't gay he was just really shy and awkward, the very idea of "being gay" was simply a mental disorder that was easily cured

>>212302873
its not being groomed they choose to apply to be joined and its a rigorous process to weed out mental instabilities, Joran was one that slipped through because he was a true genius psychopath.

>>212302950
>its not being groomed they choose to apply
after being groomed since birth to want to apply

>>212302801
they even look like a star trek monster of the week

>>212302857
not everyone can be Combs

>>212302950
>they choose to apply
because their elders convinced them to
(because of muh religion)
there is no canon proof that a non-joined Tril is biologically incomplete

>>212302983
We are once again veering into your fan-fiction. Why do you do this?

>>212303025
i'm not the guy you've been talking to it just seems like you don't understand what grooming is. being a host is the life's goal of every trill because that's what they're taught. call it grooming, brainwashing, a cult, whatever. same shit.

>>212302997
So their is no pressure to become joined its a tiny percent of the population, some trill want to be and apply to become joined, noone is pressuring them quite the opposite they are encouraged not to try to become joined this is all explained in the abduction episode

>>212293093
Hi-iiii! This is the Starship Faggot, thrusting its way through space on another penetrating mission. I just caught two fellas in the closet, even though they were both out of the closet. They said they were engaged. I told them to disengage and report back to their stations. Oh, the fun we have here!

>>212303082
it is veiled pressure
the joined ones are seem as elite

>>212303076
>being a host is the life's goal of every trill
no it really isn't quite the opposite thats what you seem to not understand, like I said you are making things up that are in direct opposition to what we are told and shown in the show

>>212303025
at least i write fanfiction. i try to contribute to trek lore. all you do is seethe about what the writers do, while i try to show what the writers could have done if they weren't gay trannies.

>>212301391
>memory-beta
non canon
don't care

>>212303113
what would be the IRL equivalent?
a kid becoming the Dalai Lama?

>>212303145
you don't contribute anything you make nonsense up that is contradicted by the show then furiously argue that it is fact. its the complete opposite of contributing its something a nu-trek tranny would and have done.

reminder that only ds9 has these problems because only ds9 takes itself seriously

>>212303198
what actually would happen if they OD'd on white?

>>212303151
their isn't one really, their are only some symbiotes that even want to be joined and its a super rigorous process where joined trill decide if the applicant can be considered as a potential host. there isn't a real world equivalent not everything in star trek is a direct equivalent of the real world.

>>212303145
>at least i write fanfiction.
1 - show don't tell
2 - tv text is canon supreme

>>212303229
Be like that scene in Trainspotting

>>212303229
mass murder and deaths its said many many times and shown more then once, fortunately when odo makes peace and rules the great link and their is access back to the gamma quadrant they all go back, the dominion set up ketrecel white facilities in the alpha quadrant many times during the war, at least 1/2 a dozen episodes deal with destroying them or the dominion successfully defending them.

>>212303260
gender transition would be similar
the symbionte is the idea, groomed into one's brain
then you have surgery and has a new name

>>212303397
no it isn't remotely similar but its hilarious you'd think so tranny

>>212303429
you like off-screen facts
but ignores the fact that season 1 of ds9 was made by literal deviants

>>212303397
>gender transition
there is no such thing, their is surgical mutilations and chemicals pumped into a sick body with a mentally ill mind, their is another term for that Sadomasochistic Torture. Fortunately Star Trek takes place in a universe where such horrific practices don't take place.

>>212303502
having a literal slug implanted into your brain, losing half of your identity, having memories of being fuck by both genres, is much more acceptable
because I refuse to think about my sacred lore

>>212303463
no I stick to whats on screen you however like to make shit up because you think you are "contributing" when you are simply the product of a diseased mind

>>212303539
its not implanted in the brain, ok nu-trek tranny I think that might be the last (you) for (you), keep making shit up its what trannies are all about.

>>212303540
>I stick to whats on screen
so just accept Dax fucked McCoy, there is no other onscreen proof of her larping

>>212303566
see, you defend a fictional crap that is sick as fuck, just because you have canon deep into your arse,

>>212303576
I think you got mixed up with who you were replying to, I'm the one whos been saying since this started that Dax fucked McCoy this is one of my posts >>212302021

>>212303576
her entire character is a larp
>look at me being a klingon weeb
>look at me being good at tongo
>look at me being a slut who bangs ungle dudes
>look at me
>look at me
>look at me
worst character ever. even mayweather

>>212303601
>you defend a fictional crap
so you hate star trek and want to make up your own shit, we've got it go do that somewhere else.

>>212303539
>implanted into brain
nope, nu-trek fag detected
>fucked by both genres
esl detected
>because I refuse to think about my sacred lore
you should be thinking about your next meal because your brain is malnourished.

>>212303688
does not matter any of my shit, JOINING procedure is sick and grooming worse than transing and you can't argue against it
you just seethe and get angry

>>212303691
>gets culled
>cries esl
typical geezery

get a fucking room already

>>212303740
you literally made up a bunch of shit that isn't true and are now arguing for shit you made up, its bizzare, what the point in continuing you have made shit up and want to "argue" based on said shit you've made up. No one cares about your fan fiction, its absolutely hilarious you think anyone does.

>>212303740
>does not matter any of my shit
take a time out laddie

>>212303785
>shit that isn't true
100% onsreen canon
- Host loses half of their identity
- Dax remember being fucked by both genres
- Joined are seem as elite and always were to a culture akin to religition

prove me wrong
you cant

>culled
this is the stupidest esl speak ever

>>212303844
>onsreen
>by both genres
>always were to a culture
no really its time to take a deep breathe and stop posting for a while.

>>212303863
says the culled geezer
buy a dictionary faggot

>>212303895
>can't prove me wrong
>cries esl

>>212303844
>Joined are seem as elite and always were to a culture akin to religition

>>212303942
not an argument

I wonder if he watched some indian knock off Star Trek and that's why he has no idea what he's talking about.

is this the melt down that was promised? is it time?

>>212304025
maybe you should pay attention to what is said onscreen

>>212304060
Your genre is getting culled on screen

>>212304111
elab

>>212303662
Mayweather was Space Urkel

>>212304042
it's quite meltful i have to say

>>212304042
I am geezer. AMA

>>212304165
I feel an elabfulate would clariful the circumstancful

>>212303662
based hot (trans) female character
makes geezers mad
she dodge's Bashir's fake flirting (because in s1 he was gay)
how not to love Jadzia

>>212304180
what is your religition?

>>212304366
The Churching of the Forty Seven Anime Referentions

>>212304366
the only true one, iskcon off course

>>212304366
The religion of peace

>>212304366
the religion of ignoring blatant truths about the star trek core because of nostalgia

>>212304366
I strive against the soulless minions of orthodoxy

star trek = sunk cost

>>212304825
hardly it beginning continues and ends with great aplomb, you simply must discard poor brother ENT cut down before his time was finished

>>212289406 (OP)
If memory serves Worf's kid turned out okay.

>>212304902
it was all holodeck
cries da geezer

>>212304933
define ok?
to a medium klingon he turned worse than a fag

I’m not reading the thread to see if this is already posted but it wins worst parents and it’s not even close

>>212291778
Let's take our daughter on a dangerous journey into Borg space!

>>212304997
not their choice tho

>>212304939
you speak as if possessed by a youthful faggot, no more words will be countenanced by your sickened form.

>>212305029
They left their children as baby salamanders on some random planet. They could’ve at least used the Doctor’s magic to turn them human before abandoning them

>>212305101
>culled again
skibidi!

>>212305143
Weren't the babies in a planet only accessible by warp 10?

>>212305193
No, otherwise they ship couldn’t have picked Paris and Janeway back up. They just left them to be eaten by space seagulls or something

>>212305193
Who are we to question evolution?

its quite literally the dumbest episode ever made, not counting nu-trek shit of course.

>>212305304
got the full one of this for me buddy?
thanks champ

>>212305304
Outside of nuTrek Voyager is the dumbest Star Trek. Maybe TAS.

>>212305276
if the episode was written by christcucks the salamanders would be angels or something stupid instead

>>212305396
>dumbest Star Trek
TNG takes the cake
it is hard to believe a frail gay frenchman as captain of flagship

>>212305383
that is the full one sorry bud, if you'd like to make more go ahead, I have them all and that is Voys

>>212305515
Hmmm smells like bait.

>dumbest Star Trek
DS9 takes the cake
it is all resolved by magical prophecy
zero science

>>212305602
no it isn't but way to out yourself as an idiot

>dumbest Star Trek
TOS takes the cake
humans can never get along
eg geezers here

Voyager takes the cake. It has the weakest ensemble cast, the weakest characters and the weakest stories. You know why they’re always bringing up Tuvix? It’s cause it’s the only good episode.

>>212305515
>space Scotland? Why the fuck not?
>rapey space ghosts with a taste for redheads? Sure
>a reanimated dead grandma? We’ve already come this far

>>212305602
>>212305628
no one cares what nu-trek trannies think and we never will

>>212305627
So, while Deep Space Nine spends lots of time on space battles and alien politics (that’s the “science fiction” part), the very end feels more like a magical prophecy story. The heroes don’t win by out-thinking their enemies with science, they win by fulfilling an old promise made to powerful, unseen spirits. It’s more a silly fairy tale, prove me wrong, you cant

>>212305663
>Voyager takes the cake. It has the weakest ensemble cast, the weakest characters and the weakest stories.
That is the interesting point and should have been explored.
if all the best people were on the flagships, moron canon folder fags have to be somewhere else.
add maqi

>>212305663
Tuvix was a terrible episode. Voyager was very hit and miss, I’ll grant you, but when they hit it was right in the feels

>>212305143
Who are we to question evolution?

>>212305697
you can't argue back, we know, do you seething as usual, thanks

>>212305767
TOS cancelled after 3 seasons of fillers
not much difference
your point?

>>212305760
I’ve said this before but some species get to evolve into unfettered beings of pure energy. Humans get to be salamanders. I don’t make the rules

Stop replying to that retard. He's either an Indian or just trolling. Either way they're stupid as all hell.

>>212305755
>Tuvix was a terrible episode.
it was a wasted opportunity
Tuvix should have been a very hot trans person made of Janeway and Paris

>>212305699
the very ending isn't even close to the end of the war, which is resolved by a lot of hard work a lot of science and a lot of sacrifice. The conclusion in the fire caves is the conclusion to the war being fought by the pah-wraiths against the prophets, the thing is nothing takes anything from the other the achievements of our heros during the war isn't nullified by Dukat and Winns scheme in the same way The Siskos defeat of the Pah Wraiths and Dukat is a confirmation of the Emissary defeating the evil of the pah wraith and his long time foe without discrediting or marginalizing the efforts of everyone else to win the war. Wow everyone mattered and everyone was important and one persons journey didn't mean someone else's didn't matter. Current year writer could learn a lot for DS9 if they were capable of pulling their heads out of their collective asses.

>>212305858
> I don't have the wits to argue back, so just call the other stupid
We know who you voted for

>>212305787
I can't call you nu-trek fags retarded schizos who have no clue what you are trying to talk about? damn you really have gone off the deep end

>>212305663
>You know why they’re always bringing up Tuvix? It’s cause it’s the only good episode.
I'll give you that it is an interesting moral dilemma for them to grapple with. The fact that some random plant that caused it and the resolution was "status quo demands we do this anyways" is not especially good writing though.

Which is also what makes Voyager so boring. So many of the characters stay static and the ones that don't eventually end up fucking off permanently. So after everything, you're left with Tom Paris, still an annoying faggot, Torres, still a cunt, Harry Kim, still a loser, Chakotay, still a boring windbag, and so on.

>>212305871
No. Here’s another brilliant one from TNG. They all had stinkers is all I’m saying

>>212305969
even if I love LODE, I watched all classic trek 3 times at least, so I know very well what I am talking about, I love the lore, but I am not affraid of poking holes.

>>212305817
its a classic that has influenced so much you are currently posting about it you deranged tranny, and will last long after you've hung yourself.

>>212306024
>I'm not afraid of poking holes
yes we know you self harm tranny

>>212306035
any thing from an era that had 3 channels influenced would have influenced as much

>>212305988
Thank you. This is exactly it. My real problem with voyager is that it’s out so much wasted potential. Characters, stories, hell the whole promise of the show. The writers didn’t know what to do with anything. I can honestly say I’d rather re-watch enterprise over voyager any day of the week.

>>212306077
>The writers didn’t know what to do with anything
implying they ever did

>>212306072
I'm sure you believe that, now why are you posting about star trek again? Have you ever considering not being delusional? Their is this big thing out side your schizo bubble called real life.

>>212306101
They were at least able to conceptualize ideas. They just had little to no follow through.

>>212306077
They got better when Seven showed up and they kicked Kes. Between 7, the borg kids and the Doctor the later seasons were fine in terms of character development. It didn’t help that two of their lead actors (Chakotay and Kim) have the charisma of limp, rotting seaweed

>>212306141
my theory that afer 9/11 there was no more space for whimsy

>>212306135
I just have fun seeing you all seethe and are not able to properly argue back to any silly argument

>>212306194
Tim Burton films are filled with whimsy. Your theory is stupid.

>>212306189
The doctor is the only character I like from Voyager. 7 is an improvement over Kes, but I will and always hate with a burning passion Mr comedic relief himself, Neelix.

>>212306259
you can't even form an argument you idiot. You do understand we all bait you just you laugh at you right?

>>212306333
that is your only tool: find a minimal spelling mistake so you can't avoid replying to the main argument.

>>212306333
>you can't even form an argument you idiot.
You're unable to even form a coherent sentence due to your extreme lack of understanding of basic English. Go to a forum where they speak your native tongue, retard.

>>212306281
Neelix was shit and his premise was stupid but Voy was ok. Icheb getting fucked over by his own parents, twice? Right in the feels. Future Borg bonding with Seven and the crew and making the ultimate sacrifice for them by face-tanking a sphere? Badass

>>212306375
Wrong reply, but my point stands for the jeet.

>>212306375
gets culled thrice
cries muh spelling

>>212306189
Seven and the Doctor are about the only characters that get some development, and even in the later seasons they're both still getting episodes where their characters regress a lot just so they can have a plot where they learn some lesson about what it really means to be human.

>>212306423
>cries muh spelling
It's not the spelling that's the issue, you're using words that aren't applicable to what you're saying you moron. It's nonsensical poo talk.

>>212306373
>>212306375
a argmentful response

>>212306432
>get some development,
you can't have proper development in a status quo syndication crap and that is why geezers love old tv

>>212306432
True, and it’s a tired trope they overused in all of them (Data, Odo) but it was ok. I rate Ent over Voy but I still like it

>>212306281
>but I will and always hate with a burning passion Mr comedic relief himself, Neelix.
Neelix's problem is that he works on paper. He's the guy who makes up for his lack of technical knowledge with empathy and endless attention to the crew's emotional and social needs. There's not a lot of Trek characters that have ever filled that role. He could have been good. Instead he's just a big bumbling annoyance.
>Captain I have made a delicious Furgloxian ass-wort stew! With extra feces!
>NOT NOW NEELIX
>but Captain, you must simply sip this stew straight from the cheeks of the Furglox! It's sublime!
>Neelix all the air on the ship has turned to acid. You need to leave.
>Awwww jeeze... Guess no one needs ol' Neelix, huh?

>>212306373
One can't avoid idiocy it seems, a truely troubful problem

>>212306548
okay boomer, go watch live tv

>>212306525
> There's not a lot of Trek characters that have ever filled that role
There’s at least one in every series after TOS: Troi, Quark, Neelix, Phlox. They rehash the same shit over and over

>>212306586
liveful tv seems to be the solution to jeetful attempts at conversation

>>212306592
who is the TOS quirky fag?

>>212306592
Quark and Phlox are top tier and way better than neelix. Never liked troi though always thought she was kind of a stupid cunt.

>>212306592
Troi is the ship's counselor, and more than anything, she's the empath plot device. Most of the time, she's not actively helping anyone with anything because she has so many of her own problems.
Quark is the criminal with the heart of gold. He's not there to worry about anyone else's feelings. He only occasionally feigns interest when he thinks he can profit and because he runs the bar that everyone visits.
Phlox is literally the ship's Doctor. He's analogous to Crusher, Bashir, and The EMH

>>212306658
>always thought she was kind of a stupid cunt.
I am sensing a lot of hostility and anger.

>>212306692
This. Is vaguely sensing stuff that anyone could pick up on really a useful skill? Maybe for like a ship therapist, but she didn’t need to be on the fucking bridge.

>>212306686
>Quark is the criminal
if everyone in ds9 was low tier thugs, they would have had a mob hit on quark on s1

>>212306645
Chekov and he sucks

Odo would have entered Quark's arse

>>212306761
>Hails Romulan ship
>Troi: I sense deception
Thanks Troi, I would have never figured that out. Her entire character is pretty retarded but I don't let her existence bother me.

its time

>>212306840
Scotty being a drunko

>>212306854
I like her as a love interest for Riker. That’s about it.

someone bake dammit

>>212306983
do yourself fag

>>212307023
no

new

>>212307127
>>212307127
>>212307127

ah well

>>212306686
Agree wrt Troi but they had the best ensemble cast for TNG, letting them use a bunch of them for comic relief at different points. Quark and Phlox both filled that role, but in Voy they leaned a little too heavily on Neelix and it sucked. Once again I blame Beltran and Kim (I can’t remember the actor’s name and I don’t care to) for making it “necessary” to focus on Neelix

>>212306983

here
>>212307319
>>212307319
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