Thread 212341724

I feel bad for the american fans of DB. You guys got a terrible translation with awful music. A country that never heard Kino music like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWofTVW1ZDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9VYvfEWrBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPBoESjzhZ4

>>212341724 (OP)
It’s not that hard to figure out, you guys are just retarded. If Kid Buu was stronger than Buuhan Goku would’ve taught Vegeta the fusion dance.

I never bothered finishing rhe Buu saga. I was drained after watching the Cell saga and watching Gohan turn into a loser

Reminder DBZ never even made in the top ten of most watched anime in Japanese history when it comes to ratings

I can't disagree. They'll go to their graves claiming beep-boop synthesizer soundtrack that never let up is a good soundtrack because children are apparently retarded and can't handle moments of silence.

>character trains for 20 episodes to fight the main villain
>loses

>>212341724 (OP)
I thought it was clear that Kid Buu is more unhinged but less powerful so he ends up being more dangerous anyway.

>>212342182
Nobody cares weeb, japs have shit taste

>>212342182
How many of Japan’s top ten most watched anime are some variation of “Uguu Kawaii Moeblob Little Girl Adventure”?

>>212342299
All of them. Dragon Ball is too heterosexual and masciline for japs.

>>212342264
>using the same grainy 1980s orchestra music for the entire series

>>212342299
I agree. That “hug me senpai” shit is so fucking gay. They’d rather pump out trash like rent a girlfriend than give more meaningful manga a chance.

>>212342358
It’s 2nd best selling manga ever in Japan, dummy
>>212342299
DB, Dr Slump, and Doraemon were more watched

>>212341724 (OP)
I saw a scene once where the editing, music, and dialogue was so good I wondered "what special movie is this?" and it turned out to just be the original Japanese broadcast.

>>212341724 (OP)
I thought it was known that kid buu is weaker, but harder to get a bead on because he's ADHD on meth.

>>212342549
Yeee kid Buu is much weaker ssj3 could handle him, the real problem with kid Buu is his nature. He’s unreasonable and chaotic, he just blows planets up for no reason, it’s the first thing he does when he appears

>>212341724 (OP)
Buuhan is the strongest but Kid Buu is a total lunatic who is willing to blow up the universe in a heartbeat because he is a fucking retard. Like a kid who breaks a toy then realizes he has nothing left to play with. It didn't matter at that point because it was just Goku and Vegeta by themselves. Either way both were vastly stronger than Goku/Vegeta who could barely maintain forms at the time. Maybe Buuhan would have still lost to the spirit bomb because of Gohan's arrogance.

Kageyama recorded an engrish version of cha la head cha la that was never used
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QcBUlzmo5U

dragon dragon dragon
dragon ball z
>rock music on the background
dragon dragon dragon
dragon ball z

>>212342265
Dragon Ball started out as a comedy and Toriyama went back to that with the Buu saga.

>>212341968
Z ends after Cell Saga.
Gohan is a protector, not an aggressor like his father and the rest of the saiyans. It is this part of his spirit that makes him stronger than the others around him.
Goku understands this and hands off to his son.
Not even verbal or interpretive handling of the torch. He literally slaps up the bad guy and says
>yeah but my son can fuck you up too and he's like 8, lmfao, take this senzu bean if you're a masochist nigger, later
Vegeta ends his character arc, buries his ego, and helps his rival's offspring
Gohan brings Vegeta, Piccolo, and Goku, all former mortal enemies, together under the same roof as fathers and friends
Ultimate evil dispatched by a teenager with endless potential motivated by love and family instead of instinct/greed/fear/dominion.
roll the credits nigger it's clearly over

but then we waggle some dollarydoos and tits in your face and eventually you create 50 colorchange hairstyles so mexicans can feed you endless money.
When Gohan Blanco became real I nearly died laughing.

>>212341724 (OP)
Super Buu was stronger, Kid Buu was chaos personified and so a far greater threat to all life. Also the English OST was so much better than Japanese.

https://youtu.be/mfYK0H9vAiU
>you feel bad I got to listen to this kino
Yeah, ok loser.

>>212342764
It's "dragon dragon, rock the dragon... DRAGON BALL Z -killer guitar solo-"

>>212342807
Gohan is weak because he was raised by mom, making him an emotional crybaby bitch. Thank God he redeemed himself in Super Hero.

>>212342841
That's not Super Buu. Super Buu is when he was shirtless and nuked everyone on earth individually. Buuhan has Piccolo and was thus relatively competent while Super Buu was still a drooling retard who got tricked by Gotenk's tomfoolery.

>>212341724 (OP)
DBZ peaked with the heavy metal music in the movies
don't reply to me if you're some fucking chigyu tranny

If the english dub didn't have this, you didn't watch Dragon Ball

https://www.tiktok.com/@relembrar_e_viver_80_90/video/7489961531556384006

>>212341724 (OP)
Buuhan was stronger, that's why they had to fight buuhan while fused but could fight kid buu unfused

>>212342926
That's Super Buu.

Fuck Gohan, all his power ups were undeserved anyway. He’s more of a plot device. Toriyama didn’t think much of him anyway. Toei added so much filler to his character

>>212343039
Toriyama was making him the new protagonist then changed his mind and made him a nerd and brought Goku back to life.

>>212341724 (OP)
Just read the manga.

>>212343038
That nukes everyone? You may be right but Buu wearing the primarily orange gi is Buuhan. It's what Gohan was wearing. Vegito's ginis inversed colors and mostly blue.

https://youtu.be/_qNmE0xQgfI?t=81
What's the name of this dub?
I've downloaded a shit ton of DBZ torrents and it's always some other dub that's missing the banger tunes I remember from childhood.
I can't find it anywhere.

>>212343181
It's still Super Buu just post Gohan absorb.

>>212342841
Sorry but this is better. The second half is pure hype https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgbBsfO0Ls

>>212343220
No it isn't. Super Buu isn't nearly as intelligent as Buuhan due to Piccolo and not as arrogant due to Gohan. Completely different personalities.

>>212343261
Wow it sounds like every other Japanese track.

I blame this show for my fucked up fetishes

>>212342807
>Z ends after Cell Saga.
Z ends with Frieza dying alongside Goku and Vegeta.
Nips wanted more slop and Toriyama gave it to them

>>212342841
>Also the English OST was so much better than Japanese.
Shit taste kid

>>212343440
Why are you crying about it?

>>212343333
lolwut

>>212342182
>can't name one of them that isn't one piece

>>212343519
Buu and Cell transformations, so little artists doing them

>>212341724 (OP)
It's funny to me how disgustingly pretentious foreigners are. "I feel bad for" is the cringiest type of faux elitism in the world.
>A-AMURRICANS ALWAYS SAY THEY'RE THE BEST
No that's you trannies.
>they always excuse you of what they're guilty of
No one cares about your countries shitty music or the jap farting horns.

>kid arc
kino
>saiyan arc
kino
>namek arc
cinema
>cell arc
nice end to the series
>buu arc
they paid him to do the cell arc again

>>212343220
buuhan is specifically superbuu with piccolo, goten, trunks and gohan absorbed

>>212343458
I am not, i enjoy both but the japanese one is much better
There's a difference between tension and full-packed action and the series fits the former more

>>212342764
My skin is Cold!

>>212342807
>>212343397
Dragon Ball actually ends when Bulma shoots Goku in the face with a gun in chapter 1.
He was supposed to die but fans demanded more.

This was being hyped up with the same energy as Goku finally arriving to fight Frieza, the big moment. I remember being stunned seeing him be turned into candy so fast, it was so bogus.

Bruce falcauner soundtrack is only way to watch DBZ

Second only to the hard rock in the movies like >>212342951


Original Japanese and Kai soundtracks are so inferior it’s not funny

>>212343970
That scene sounds so bad in english

>>212343942
You retard

>>212341724 (OP)
What people don't realize there is a form of Boo that only appears briefly and is stronger than Boohan.
That's Rage Boo, which was born when he absorbed Southern Kaioshin and before he absorbed Grand Kaioshin.
When Fat Boo is freed, he briefly shows up, but revers to Kid Boo

>>212341724 (OP)
They should have had a bunch of ranchera and mariachi music in DBZ.

>>212343970
The correct take. I don't wanna hear a bunch of faggotty bells and slide whistles as I watch the savior of Earth power up to save the planet from utter annihilation.

>>212341724 (OP)
I don't even know who these people are. Why does the left one have a massive veiny cock on its head lmfao.

>>212342807
>When Gohan Blanco became real I nearly died laughing.
It's not over yet

>>212343942
Toriyama already decided at that point Gohan didn’t work as the MC of a fighting series. This whole fight is him trolling and saying Gohan will never be Goku. It literally only lasts 2-3 pages in the manga. He had more fun drawing Gotenks vs Buu which lasts multiple chapters

>>212341724 (OP)
The last two tracks you posted were actually the best the old soundtrack had. Faulconer's soundtrack was pure kino and more appropriate for the early 2000s. The Japanese soundtrack was too 80s/90s.

Also kid buu is the pure form not strongest form. Youd have to be a retard to think the buu that absorbed half the fighters is the weaker one. Kid buu is just more evil than the others.

>>212344509
>The Japanese soundtrack was too 80s/90s.
Dragon Ball is from the 80s/90s. Should we give old movies new soundtracks?

>>212341872
Somre readers cannot pay attention.

>>212344509
>The Japanese soundtrack was too 80s/90s.
DB and DBZ are literally from 1989 to 1995

>tranime
/tv/ is capeSOVL board.

>>212343615
the saiyan arc is cinema. completely fucking raw and the goku vs vegeta fight is great just as good as freezer

all the american music was better
just like goku is better with a man's voice and not an old grandma

>>212342299
Gaijins are really really really ignorant about Japan.

''Uguu kawaii Moee'' shit are basically like only followed by 1-2% of Japs and aired at midnight, even relatively famous ones are like that.

Dragon Ball was aired at prime time and more than 20% of Japs were watching it. It's not even close at all.

>>212341724 (OP)
Bruce Faulconer MADE Dbz. That japanese music is fucking dogshit and anything Dragon Ball is way less impactful without him. Only ones who disagree are total weeb FAGS trying to seem cool to japs who don’t give a shit

"Bye everybody I knew for most of my life! Time to train this kid in HIS village away from all you, including my own family! I'm also not gonna visit even though instant transmission would make that trivial!"

>>212346436
>Only ones who disagree are total weeb FAGS
Do you realize the rest of the world got the original soundtrack, right?

>>212346618
do you still not realize that doesn't fucking matter?

>>212346434
Being ignorant about Japan is fine but gaijins usually believe delusional versions of Japan in their heads, and there are almost no western media that are capable to point that out properly.
It's probably one of the most disturbing things in modern times.

>>212341724 (OP)
the english translation was bad, but the music was significantly better. Also Ill take the bad translation over having an elderly lady screeching as the main character.

>>212346618
Who cares? They got an inferior version. That’s just another reason some people say they prefer the shit version, because it was all they had and grew up with.

>>212346436
>anything Dragon Ball is way less impactful without him
You dumb burger. Compared this and its generic music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYbBS0Y7doE

To the original soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgtt4A3-gsU

>>212346982
Electric guitars and drums and synth works better for DBZ than generic and wacky 1987 shonen backing tracks.
You need to get over it.

Why would the spirit bomb kill Buu when he had been vaporized multiple times before but didn't die?

>>212346936
>elderly lady screeching as the main character.
Watch it in spanish with english subs

>>212342182
>top ten of most watched anime in Japanese history when it comes to ratings
First: Who cares?
Second: Actual kids shows like Detective Conan, Crayon Shin Chan and Doraemon are mass appeal and shows like DB could never compete.

>>212346434
>>212346666
we basically live in the world that discriminations can't be considered as discriminations only when it's against Japan

The dub changed dialogue and besides Goku, everyone sounds like a shitty chainsmoker. Dub Secondaries will always be fake fans. You fuckers don’t even know about Kid Goku’s aadventures

>>212346982
Of all the examples you could have picked you picked one that's an objective improvement over the original. I'm beginning to the think the south american hate for faulconer is just thinly veiled anti americanism. Not even the japs particularly mind it, some even like it. Every single south american is absolutely buck broken over faulconGOD for some reason.

>>212347201
>dragon ball
>not a kid show

>>212347046
How is that music "wacky"? That track is solemn and a bit melancholic. It's the end. It fits the scene way better than generic electric sounds.

>>212347230
sorry, poor third-worlder, but they played Dragonball on American TV for years and years
We got all the same anime you did and dozens and dozens more

>>212347230
the shitty chainsmoking voices are funny though

Why does the Funi dub make foreigners seethe so much?

I dont even say weebs because even my hardcore weeb friends all say that the DBZ dub is the only anime dub they will watch since its better than the original. The soundtrack gave each character their own theme.

https://youtu.be/hBq8UadbVc8?si=obKgRzSWHqSJnWGz

>>212347272
there's a fucking comedy rattle in it, dummy
it's a crazy that this is a show for 12 year olds but you prefer the version that skews even younger than that

>>212347262
Shonen (for adolescent boys) show but yes you are right.

>>212347240
>Not even the japs particularly mind it, some even like
>some even like
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

>>212347350
south american detected, opinion rejected go back to /dbs/

DBZ is butt rock and nu metal, end of story

>>212347201
>Second: Actual kids shows like Detective Conan, Crayon Shin Chan and Doraemon are mass appeal and shows like DB could never compete.
You are wrong too. DB was really huge in Japan.

It's more about an era thing. For instance, the final episode of Dog of Flanders was watched by more than 30% of Japs in the 70s. It's basically impossible to beat records like this now.

but the "uncut" versions did literally use cha-la and the original music, this might even be the version thats on streaming and shit

>>212348498
>did literally use cha-la and the original music
gross
rock the dragon or nothing

>>212348567
the anime isnt even canon

>>212341724 (OP)
We don't care, weeb. The Bruce Faulconer soundtrack is the canon official soundtrack, and it isn't up for debate. English is the World language, and so English speaking nations get the final say on these things. We prefer Bruce Faulconer to the flowery japslop garbage. Also Dragon Ball isn't anime it's a honorary cartoon.

https://youtu.be/m94gwI4o_JI?si=rjutrM-FrRZ-rfo8&t=31

north america missed the real music that played during gohans ssj2 transformation

i dont want the japanese voicing. i prefer english. but i do wish we got the music for some of the more heavy scenes. the american version lost a lot by not using the original tracks

>final form
>not the strongest
fucking what?

One of the zoomer movies has Pantera which alone mogs anything that could have been in the jap version, and I say that a huge admirer of nippon musical sensibilities

Kidbuu is stronger because it's a cartoon and I said so. Get fucked nerds.

>>212349343
Kid buu is the original form

>>212342807
>Z ends after Cell Saga.
holy amerifat

>>212348951
most correct thing I've heard all week

>>212349652
They aired all of Z in the US, retard.
the Babidi and Buu shit just sucks ass.

>>212341724 (OP)
>let’s make a faggoty character that doesn’t say anything
I can’t believe anyone liked this shit more than cell.

>>212349693
>Ultimate evil dispatched by a teenager with endless potential motivated by love and family instead of instinct/greed/fear/dominion
a theme of dragon ball is that there's always someone stronger than you, it only makes sense the ending of Z is them facing a great power they can barely defeat and then passing the torch

Buu saga isn’t any worse than Cell, notice how all the complaints come from butthurt losers who self inserted as Gohan.

>>212347463
MY SKIN IS COOOLD

>>212348630
This honestly, the manga is the purest way to enjoy Toriyama’s work. After reading it, Toei’s padded runtimes and slideshows are insufferable.

>>212349769
no
it's just too much hercule and buu is lame
white people like vegeta and cell the most
only brown people like gohan the most

>>212349769
Buu brought back the random and comedic elements of Dragon Ball, it works a solid bookend to the series

>>212349307
we did get it though, it was just in those orange box sets

>>212349769
Buu brought back the random and comedic elements of Dragon Ball, it works a solid bookend to the series

>>212347067
the spirit bomb destroys evil, Kid Buu was pure evil

>>212341724 (OP)
Nobody debates this shit, retard. Every power scaling question has been done to death. Right now we're just wondering if the whole franchise is dead or not since they're fighting over the rights to it.

>>212341724 (OP)
there's only an argument because stupid ass spics think power creep must have a linear relationship with time, therefore kid buu has to be stronger since he came later in the season.

thats retarded because it's clearly mentioned. evil buu is weaker in strength but a lot more scrupulous. kaioshin mentions it in the manga i think. now go back to your containment thread, spic boy.

>>212348951
based. also the 4kids dubs of pokemon and yugioh were kino. everyone grew up on those and only when they became "adults" did they fall for the psyop that you MUST consider the jp dub superior at all times because its le right thing to do.

>>212350616
The only reason I ever watched subbed anime is because the dialoge itself is usually changed too much in the dub. The actual voice acting is almost always horrific, forget better.

>>212350485
GT's Super Saiyajin 4, for comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28_1B9a_mxU

>>212341724 (OP)
>You guys
I had all of the fansubbed VHS in 2000.
English dub and post-production is only defended by mongoloids.

>>212342807
>Z ends after Cell Saga
No it doesn't you delusional fuck.

>>212350485
That shit is so non-canon it hurts

>>212351110
It was written by Toriyama. It's the definition of canon.

>>212351141
In reality, Senileyama left some notes for Toei and let them do whatever

>>212341724 (OP)
>Post cell
>Canon

I liked the early parts of the Buu Saga with Gohan. I think it was a good continuation to the Cell Saga.
Gohan didn't want to fight and train at first but he had to step up to save Earth and defeat Cell. In the beginning of the Buu Saga he was living a more normal life but then when he saw crime in the city, he intervened and stopped it. He liked saving people and adapted his Saiyaman persona to be like a super hero. He accepted that he can be more gentle and less of a fighting maniac than Goku and Vegeta while still loving Earth and wishing to protect it.

And for people calling it cringe, Gohan likes it and his wife thinks it's the coolest thing in the world which is all that matters.

Waku waku

>>212348951
It doesn't get any more right than this.

>>212352219
>Gohan in a durag doing power rangers poses on petty criminals instead of training for the inevitable next world ending alien monster because he wanted to go to college and be a dweeb like his mom wanted instead becoming the strongest warrior in the universe like he should have
The gay saiya man shit was objectively the worst part of DBZ and Gohan will always be the biggest faggot in Dragonball.

>>212354045
Thoughts on Gohan (Blanco) actually happening and being part of canonical lore, and confirmed by Toriyama himself with his final words to be the most powerful character in the franchise?

>>212354106
Erm, Gokubros? We are a bad father?

>>212342807
based

>>212354106
Gohan blanco being Toriyama's final contribution to dragonball is undeniably hilarious. He also mentioned how he never watched the anime because he had no interest in it right before dying too, which was also hilarious.

Different people say DBZ jumped the shark at different points

Personally I thought it was all great

>>212342807
Yeah we ignore super. Super never happened

>>212341724 (OP)
>Shits out all strong character he absorved
>Becomes stronger
That never made sense.

>>212346591
When you have a family, you will understand

>>212354563
No. Bulma's BBL is the most important event in the whole series.

>>212346591
>Goku abandons his family to train his adopted black son in private to be strong enough to kick all of their asses
What did Toriyama mean by this?

>>212349798
How did they do it? How did they make someone with such a poorly written side story so iconic?

didn't read a thing
for me it's 18

>>212342299
Literally none, Japan's top 10 anime weekly has been a mix of family comedies like Sazaesan, Chibi-maruko chan, Doraemon, and Detective Conan and One Piece since the 90s. And DBZ Kai was in the top 10 in 2009. Moeblob seasonal shit airs at 1am and the shows are glorified ads to buy blurays.
>>212342358
>>212342415
Retards

>>212341724 (OP)
Is that his dick?

>>212341724 (OP)
The American dub was superior, as was the music.
t. European

>>212341724 (OP)
>I feel bad for the american fans of DB. You guys got a terrible translation with awful music. A country that never heard Kino music like:

Nigga I listen to OG soundtrack in Kai, it all right but it's doesn't have the aura that us locialist soundtrack did.

>>212356194
Literally everything in Dragonball was poorly written. At least Broly was bad ass as all fuck.

>>212354409
honestly even the manga of Super isnt that bad, I like the faster pace, most of the changes, and Moro and Granolla

>>212354294
why would he? its just a drawn out version of what he already made, hes talked about how he never even went back and read the manga until the 00s.
I don't even know if toriyama was a fan of anime. He seemed to be more into movies

>>212357446
>I don't even know if toriyama was a fan of anime.
I'm pretty sure he mentioned he wasn't a fan of anime in general when he said he never watched DBZ.

>>212356328
GADZOOOKS!!!

>>212341872
Watching SHIThan get emasculated into a gormless nonce who can’t catch beans or rings is unironically more demoralising to young white men than anything the liberal left has come up with.

>>212342807
The worst thing about Gohan Blanco is that he somehow needs to be handheld by Piccolo in HIS OWN FUCKING WANK MOVIE, that’s like writing an OP fanfic where you self-insert as Harry Potter/Naruto/Sonic and fuck all your waifus, but you still need your dad to hold your hand and tell you he loves you before, during and after the process.

>>212342807
Freeza would've been better but yeah Goku death and future gens was perfect ending. What's insane is buu saga only started two weeks after cell saga. Insane how much the art improved

>>212341724 (OP)
Kid Buu got killed by a spirit bomb, you suck if you die to a spirit bomb

>>212343219
OG Funimation dub with the Faulconer soundtrack

>>212343220
>>212343307
Look, it’s simple. Absorbing Gohan made Buu more powerful because he ate POTENTIALhan’s biomass. But venting Gohan made Buu DEADLIER again because as subsequent material proves, Gohan is biologically designed to be a jobber so by eating him Buu also ate his incompetence.

>>212343657
>>212343307
Ok, but that's goofy fan shit. It's Super Buu.

>>212342807
licky lick CunChi

>>212345659
DB started airing in 1985.

>>212354563
>>212354838
ty Super Hero for giving Bulma a 2025 booty!

>>212341872
Wrong.
Kid Buu is Pure Buu. The presence of the Kaioshin he ate was actively holding him back. He expels the fat Kaioshin when he creates Evil Buu. He expels the muscular Kaioshin when Vegetto leaves his head and he starts screaming for a full episode.

>>212347319
jealousy. they grew up with garbage like the Big Green dub which was made by French retards who couldn't even remember what characters' names were half the time.

Just took a shit

>>212358027
>Just took a shit (Bejita)
K.

>>212341724 (OP)
Retarded image.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone say Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu.

>>212357922
buuhan is stronger and smarter than super buu

>>212358027
Gokubro...

>>212346434
idk why we bothered stopping Japan's imperial ambitions in asia when all the rice mexicans there actually want to be their slaves

>>212341724 (OP)
>awful music
Half the japanese soundtrack was stolen

>>212341724 (OP)
>Awful music
Kys. Bruce's music is kino

>>212356328
>Super 18
GT ROBBED us

>>212344503
>toriyama decided
He decided no such thing, he folded like a chair to the pressure and death threats because of his intention to make gohan the main character instead of goku

>>212356328
Off model trash.

>>212358565
could play an entire game of battleship on that forehead

>>212341724 (OP)
They literally explain it in the show itself. It's not difficult.
Kid Buu is the initial form and actually the WEAKEST of them all. Fat Buu is actually theoretically stronger but it's a double edged sword because the goodness of the Kais within him dampen his abilities when used for evil. If he's using them for good he can actually become much stronger, as we see in Super.
Buuhan is the most powerful form.

It's obvious that Kid Buu is weaker but more insane and represents a "getting back to basics" and most of the modern fandom recognizes this.

>>212359003
if this were the case SSJ3 Goku would've wiped the floor with Kid Buu.

>>212356816
Kai had a different soundtrack. It wasn't the original.

>>212343333
PEDOcolo…

>>212342182
>DBZ never even made in the top ten of most watched anime in Japanese history when it comes to ratings
This is not even true lmao

>>212359300
Goku was messing around because he wanted Vegeta to have a turn. Then Goku ran out of energy because he underestimated how much SSJ3 saps you.

>>212359300
>if this were the case SSJ3 Goku would've wiped the floor with Kid Buu.
SSJ3 is slightly more powerful than Kid Buu but can't maintain the form.

>>212341724 (OP)
kid buu was such a fucking disappointment. Buu goes from at least somewhat interesting to just screaming and hooting like a fucking 3 foot ape while Goku finally unveils the hyped SSJ3 form for all of 30 seconds. so frustrating after the absolute kino Frieza and Cell arcs.

Time to post FUNNIES

>>212359494
the thing is he was struggling to put down Kid Buu, whereas during his fight with Fat Buu he openly told Piccolo he was holding back because he didn't want to kill him.

>>212359539
>Cell
>Kino

>>212350797
>pam: i-it looks cool!
I cry every time

daily reminder GT is the absolute worst thing in the entire franchise

>>212341724 (OP)
Go back to/a/

>>212359784
That is daima

>>212359716
a granddaughter's love is all you need

>>212343039
Gohan is the embodiment of the legendary super saiyan that Vegeta talk about in Namek saga, he's stronger, powerful, ruthless and he inherited the arrogance trait of the race when he's at his peak. You can see this when he turns into ssj2 in cell saga, as "mystic" gohan in buu saga and finally the Beast Form in the movie

>>212342182
That’s because the English dub is what made it great. And the soundtrack.

>>212358108
ok but your fanfic naming conventions are gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ2VCjkKHJw
How can you unironically be a Funifag when the dialogue is so shitty and childish?
>No Vegeta I thought you were a nice guy now!

>>212341724 (OP)
>people actually watch patrick starfish fighting patrick starfish and take it seriously

>>212343333
Bejitabro…

>>212360352
Holy shit the english voices are awful

>>212359900
>Gohan is the embodiment of the legendary super saiyan
and chi chi babied him and kept his potential hidden for too long

>>212360706
>awful
More like kino.

>>212360352
the only thing I took from this is sabot is fucking PEVK

>>212359592
>the thing is he was struggling to put down Kid Buu, whereas during his fight with Fat Buu he openly told Piccolo he was holding back because he didn't want to kill him.
Yeah, because Fat Buu's skill is dampened by the "Goodness of the Kais"

>>212360210
it's a fictional show, retardo

>>212361127
that's a presumption. nowhere is it said that fat Buu is holding back because of the Kais inside of him. He killed millions of people without remorse before and after Goku fought him.

>>212342182
Dragon Ball is so popular in latin america , and i remember watching it in the mornings, im from Peru and also this is proof all that bullshit of diversity and representation is fucking stupid i wanted to be goku an he didnt look like me that though never even crossed my mind Goku spirit is fucking Kino , also what this anon said
>>212342299

Future gohan chads rise up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNReNVmdM14


post dbz kino

>3 minutes of groaning and music played over the same few stills

Every incarnation of Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu - espexially Gohan-absorbed.

>>212359300
Kid Buu is the weakest but that still leaves him around SSJ3 tier so it's not like you can take him less seriously.

>>212361558
Superior version https://youtu.be/fZVM-CqeCsc?si=RlDwF3Z6p4xp6F15

>>212361127
Fat Buu just doesn't have control of his power. He can go from getting BTFO to one shotting a SS2 depending on his mood. My interpretation is he is just as strong as Super Buu but just doesn't have control over his power.

>>212361332
>that's a presumption. nowhere is it said that fat Buu is holding back because of the Kais inside of him.
Supreme Kai/Elder Kai straight up tell us.
In both Eng and Jap.

>>212362042
Fat and Base Super are the same.
Kid is weaker but more chaotic.
Super has the advantages kid and the strength of fat.

God these threads always put more thought into power levels than toriyama ever did.

>>212343970
this also watch ocean dub first up to Ginyu then rest in how Toonami broadcast it for Nostalgia Aura, the dvds keep ruining the quality and I think it was redub at certain point.

>>212363080
he says that Buu is unpredictable and isn't always using his full power.

>>212346591
This is in character tho..

>>212363443
It's a credit to Toriyama that while writing literally week to week on the seat of his pants that he so consistently made kino purely based on his own vibes. There's so many writing lessons you can take from him throughout the series.

hands down the best, most even fight in the series. nobody else went band for band like these two

>>212363796
Goku v Piccolo at the 23rd Tenkaichi would like a word

>>212359592
>whereas during his fight with Fat Buu he openly told Piccolo he was holding back because he didn't want to kill him
Which smells like Goku wanking nonsense to me, Buu fought evenly with him.

Obligatory
>THIS IS FOR GOHAN!

>>212359941
>That’s because the English dub is what made it great. And the soundtrack.
TRVKE

>>212360790
He's the only mixed saiyan that can surpass the powers of Goku, Vegeta and Broly. Future Trunks can't reach his level

>>212364452
and then in Super he beats Goku Black's teeth in when Vegito Blue couldn't.

>>212342387
>Using the music that was made for the show.
Yes.

>>212359592
>>212364005
He didn't say that. This is why people say the english dub is the worst.

>>212341724 (OP)
What?
Kid buy is just his base for, he was just way more chaotic and aggressive

>>212342264
It matched the mood better. Dragonball music was fine back when it was a gag show with child characters, but DBZ was more serious.

>>212342277
>I thought it was clear that Kid Buu is more unhinged but less powerful so he ends up being more dangerous anyway.
Yeah he might be weaker, but he has no problems just suicide bombing a planet and reforming.

>>212356328
If Vegeta was smart he would have gotten with 18 instead and created the ultimate hybrid offspring

>>212364843
Having only watched the english dub. I'm pretty sure he says something similar. He gave a "maybe" answer.

>>212356328
Yamcha's rightful wife. Krillin wank was one of Toriyama's biggest mistake

>>212356565
So, Japans top anime is locked up housewife morningslop?

>>212348630
>>212349837
The anime is vastly superior to the anime. Toriyama is the Diet George Lucas of Anime (hasn't gone full Lucas to his death) The only reason DB is good as it was even the manga was due to his editors and ironically the work not made by Tori is unironically more faithful and better to the lore and characterization to DB than what he made.

If Tori went full on not reign in the Cell Sega wouldn't be a thing at all and an the main villains would be a fat bastard pedo android and some old nigga.

>>212361557
>didn't unlock beast form after piccolo's death
fraudture gohan

>>212364843
>>212365269
Goku always humble brags about the strength of the enemy, relative to himself. He is usually always sandbagging a bit unless things are really dire. Despite his love of fighting, Goku doesnt slip into the full fighting bloodlust as easily as Vegeta. Thats why he wasnt "going full out" against Fat Buu

>>212356565
>Japan's top 10 anime weekly has been a mix of family comedies like Sazaesan, Chibi-maruko chan, Doraemon, and Detective Conan and One Piece since the 90s.
Okay, but what if you filter out viewers under 10 years old?

>>212354409
It was pretty much consistent in characterization and tone and continuity.

It was super that made things worse.

>>212342951
>DBZ peaked with the heavy metal music in the movies
Yes

>>212365017
>It matched the mood better
This isn't true at all. Do you think this forgettable background music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzDuws7UlMM matched better than these iconic tracks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMGfkdgqf4

>>212365450
>Toriyama is shit. The manga is shit. Most of the show is shit.
Maybe Faulconerfags would be happier if they admitted they dislike Dragon Ball.

>>212365740
>Most of the show is shit.
When the fuck I said that?

>Maybe Faulconerfags would be happier if they admitted they dislike Dragon Ball.

Bro, it represent themes and characterization of DBZ.

It's fact the anime goes more dramazation and deph in certain scenes and fuck for the long time the Filler alone especially buu saga with with pace of the story.

I legit thought Freeza and Cell were in HFIL(Hell) where all the villains like say Raditiz and even the movie ones were and I legit thought maybe in Super we have something similar to GT were the villains they kill come back to earth. Or maybe the Saiyan get revive
But no apparently that realm is somehow different and they all get instant reincarnated.

>>212342277
he was more dangerous because goku and vegeta already split

>>212342876
>Redeemed himself
You mean the writers just gave him an unwarranted power boost just because. Also, I never got why they constantly shit on him for wanting to be an academic instead of getting punched in the face for a living like his dad, his biological retard dad and his retard dad’s genocidally violent friend.

He’s been exposed to horrific violence and death his entire life and understandably wants no part of it. Yet nobody gives him any sympathy or understanding for it. Just constant shit about wasted potential or whatever. I would have emigrated to Namek by now.

>>212365740
Like imagine in SuperHero instead of the RR which asspull some android that somehow more powerful than Buuhan, it was Garlic Jr and he be like the Zemo type trying pit the Z fighters against each other or something while gathering strength or maybe use uni Sayians against them

That would have been a more interesting concept than what we had. Hell I would like it if Cell came back was his normal self.

Like imagine Garlic Jr reviving Cell to his sane self and working against Gohan since they both have beef with personality.

Fuck that would be hype as shit and justify Blanco Gohan.

>>212341872
It should have been Gogeta, the spirit bomb was fucking dumb.

>>212366112
Vegeta can't defeat the big bad, sorry

>>212366112
Yeah they hit Freeza with a giant spirit bomb and it didn't even hurt him. Buu is like 1000x stronger.
I mean maybe this spirit bomb was 1000x stronger because they got more energy for it, but it didn't look 1000x stronger.
It was just poorly handled.

Maybe if they had some line in there about how the spirit bomb was extra effective against Buu because he's a being of pure evil. I mean if it bounces off people with pure hearts then that would make sense to me.

>>212366112
>>212366504
The spirit bomb doesnt really work as finishing move once we are in SS3 power level territory. There is too much individual power for it be a believable or necessary move.

>>212366670
The Spirit Bomb should have been a move for all the useless side characters to charge up while the saiyans kept the enemy busy.

>>212366806
Thats a good point, they might as well work on a spirit bomb while they are standing there watching

>>212345661
>ewing tranny slop
>SOVL
fucking kek

>>212365392
Yamcha deserves a desperate lonely on-the-cusp-of-menopause survivor of Frieza's genocide of the saiyans.

>>212341724 (OP)
but they got goku saying faggot