star trek - why the old guard is so uptight?
why can't just have fun with the new stuff

>>212372334 (OP)
Explain how one would even have fun with the new stuff?
The only fun I can see to be had from it is to mock it

They are gatekeeping the peak of all media. Grovel at their feet, peasant.

>>212372345
>>212372376
geezers detected

>>212372334 (OP)
This, star trek should encompass all races and genres.
Gatekeeping is so untrek, Gene would hate the so called "real-fans"

>>212372334 (OP)
So have fun with it and ignore the haters.

>>212372900
yes

>>212372334 (OP)
>fun

>>212373194
why so bitter gramps?

some people are just fun vampires, i guess. personally, i'd love to get stuck in a jefferies tube with tendi

>>212372334 (OP)
Cartoon watchers invaded and ruined /trek/ years ago when lower decks general was too cancer for even /co/ to handle
>Tranny mod here protects them at all costs
>FOR SOME REASON, all the other cartoon threads on /tv/ get spammed with baskin robins but not lower decks

>>212373236
u mad bro? just chill

>>212373213
Jennifer > tendi

Just watch then ten season of SG1 if you haven't.

>>212373428
SG1 is lower tier than VOY
only a real geezer would enjoy that crap

>>212373413
yeah but tendi gets with guys, jennifer not so much, so less potential for wish fulfillment

went to Vulcan AB today. saw the enterprise and the mural and the Spock statue. not a single nutrek thing in sight. if it were good, there’d be a statue of michael burnham too. but there isn’t

>>212373479
star trek cartoons are the best
not that boring stuff about conference rooms with the gay frenchman

>>212373497
cope

>>212372334 (OP)
>why the old guard is so uptight?
why ESLs think they get to speak?

>>212373545
culled!

>>212373497
>AB
known for the best beef in North America
>Vulcans
notoriously vegetarian
Highly illogical

>>212373523
what am I coping with?

imagine going to the international star trek mecca, wherein all cast have made pilgrimage, and an annual convention each year, and not a S I N G L E nutrek thing in sight

>>212373614
>notoriously vegetarian
queer then?

>>212373576
>culled
An ancient Bengali term meaning "bazinga," apparently

>>212373626
>international star trek mecca,
I thought that was Bozeman MT

>>212373626
science people don't have meccas
or sacred locations

>>212372334 (OP)
Anon if your nu trek can't deliver a simple hallway dolly shot, with walking characters delivering exposition on direct light, unfiltered, is not digestable for the key demographic

>>212373674
>the key demographic
geezers?
christcucks?

>>212373693
Yes.

>>212373706
they perishing

>>212373719
Cool.

>>212373650
>>212373643
try telling that to the Vulcan Tourism Committee

https://www.vulcantourism.com/

>>212373479
>jennifer not so much
I thought Andorians had four sexes anyway.

>>212373809
Worth a trip. Best steak I ever had and best weed I ever smoked were both in Calgary. Thanks for the tip

So this thread is the In the news spammer talking to himself, as usual?

>>212373964
no, it's the ESL, me, and Canadian washroom poster

>>212373706
That is a jewish man who teaches the talmud and practices judaism

>>212372334 (OP)
Hey, it's that guy who accuses others of being divisive >>212337304 and claims he "only antagonises the geezers that take themselves too serious" >>212340217 creating a divisive thread targeted at all "geezers". Hey, best of luck, man. Hope your gay thread doesn't die out like the one yesterday.

>>212373500
That's it! I was trying to figure out what it was about TNG that bugged me so much. They're mostly Victorian parlor dramas! The effeminate Frenchman was the clue, but I missed it all this time! Thank you!

>>212373545
do u have smth against freedom and diversity, anon? that's not very federation of you

>>212374231
don't expose geezer hypocrisy, they can't handle it

>>212373626
>pilgrimage
Is Star Trek some sort of religion to you? That would explain a lot, but anon, please, get a grip. It's just a TV/movie franchise.

>>212374260
>It's just a TV/movie franchise.
where pijama people pretend to be military and try to impose a very narrowed white man perspective in others

>>212374260
Civic religion is a thing, and Trek espouses some ideals that I can see some people using as an ad hoc civic religion. It's not complex (empathy before violence, tolerance and discovery before fear) but neither are most moral systems (don't kill, steal, lie). You don't have to be complex to be impactful.

>>212373706
The Star Trek franchise can't target the elderly demographic if they want to stay in business. You may have chosen extinction over adaptation, but don't expect to sell others on that crypto-suicidal urge. The rest of use enjoy nuTrek and Tendi and all that comes with it.

>>212374466
>empathy before violence, tolerance and discovery before fear
none employed by geezers towards based nutrek folk

>>212374466
>No but you have to believe in HELLerino for morality !!!! And the genocidal Desert god!!!!!!

>>212374478
>and Tendi
Okay, I'll bite. Tendi works well in a jejune workplace comedy, especially paired against an opposing archetype like T'Lyn for laughs.
Now take a more Trek-like format like TNG or VOY and show me where Tendi can fit as a character without being flanderized into dumbass catchphrases or Manic Pixie Dream Wesley Crusher situations. No coomer stuff. I'm serious. Once you establish she's someone who turned her back on a pirate life for a life of science, where could the character work in a general purpose show vs a comedy? Where could the character work without being BORING?
LD is a funny comedy at times. It even has a bit of heart to it. But it's not on the same tier as a general sci-fi adventure that might occasionally have a comic episode but isn't a wacky screwball hijinks show.
>inb4 blah blah old guard blah blah culled geezer blah blah
Okay fine. Take a show like SNW that does comedy and plays with genre at times but on balance is a space adventure show. Put Tendi in as a regular character. How would she be an interesting and compelling character besides "I used to be bad but I HECKIN LOVE SCIENCE!" Especially when we already have
>bad girl turning back on her bad legacy
La'an
>I heckin love science!!!
Chapel
>side shave dyke hair and swashbuckling piloting in times of crisis
Ortegas
So where would Tendi fit without becoming the Steve Urkel of the show?
If you can't even try to answer this in good faith, I shan't bite again. This is (You)r one chance to put up or shut up as far as I'm concerned.

>>212374666
>where could the character work in a general purpose show vs a comedy
because all stories and their combinations have been told, the only type of fiction is parody and self reference, otherwise feels naive or incomplete

>>212374466
typical millennial midwittery

>>212374466
Granted, but I imagine a functional civic religion would be based on a foundation more solid than a commercial entertainment product with a lot of internal inconsistencies. I like Star Trek, but I'm not going to base my life around it.

>>212374817
you hate star trek

>>212374666
do u make tv shows and movies for a living? because i can't imagine caring about such issues unless i was in the industry, and i'm not. i'm just a fan, and i enjoy the various aspects of star trek. but to try to answer your question, just because the older series (which you claim are a "more Trek-like format" and "not on the same tier") tended toward being overwrought and stuffy, doesn't mean that's the "right" way to do things. from your "industry insider" point of view, that targeted a demographic that is now getting older, living on a fixed income, and passing away, and therefore you should be motivated to dispense with your viewpoint. i'm not a big fan of the effete parlor room drama episodes, or when they're social workers in space, and tend not to rewatch those episodes. besides, star trek already suffers from widespread internal inconsistency, including the shows you idolize, so why can't you roll with these punches? wow, what an essay. i guess the coffee is finally kicking in
>satanic triplets
no coincidence

>>212375032
wow culled the geezer

He might be my favorite first officer. I just like the way he speaks and carries himself. You call him "boring", I say he's a man of quiet dignity

>>212375255
Jennifer is better

>>212374855
then why am i in this thread? are you saying that, just because i recognize star trek is just a tv/movie franchise with a lot going for it yet still has internal inconsistencies, that i must hate it? is fandom black and white to you? because to me, fandom is more shades of gray

>>212375348
you have to lot it all
and by all I mean anything before ENT

>>212372811
Gene would hate all nu trek because it abandoned his vision completely

>>212375476
so fandom really is black and white to you? that doesn't sound healthy. it's also not an attitude shared by people that actually appeared on star trek

>>212375516
he hated tng s2 and was removed because of that

>>212375476
ENT was written and filmed the same way as the rest of the peak Trek era, so you have to include it among the good. Everything after ENT sucks

>>212375558
holodeck series does not count
there is no NX series before NCC

>>212375255
The writers did him 0 favours.
But they also didn't do anybody else many favours either, except the EMH

>>212375558
>so you have to include it among the good
you really don't. but it still star trek.

>>212375476
ENT was great. My only critique of ENT is that I wish they ditched the serialization and just did more anthology in the latter seasons.

>>212375516
so now you claim to speak for the show's creator. that goes way beyond fandom, or being an industry insider. i think gene would love nutrek because it was profitable & would provide him with income. it's not a civic religion, it's a commercial entertainment product with a lot of internal inconsistencies

>>212375555
Nice digits sir
But yeah I don't disagree. Thats why I don't think using Gene in an anti gatekeeping argument is a good choice

>>212375587
there clearly is an NX series before NCC. at this point, you've lost touch with reality. but i have good news for you! ai text-to-video is finally to the point where you can produce your own star trek episodes. youtube tends to tolerate fanfic as long as it's clearly labeled as such. so why not show all of us your vision? whether you find an audience or not will tell you all you need to know about why the official franchise didn't follow the path you chose

>>212375626
Bait?

I just watched the ENT Ferengi episode...I dislike how this show contradicts the timeline when it feels like it.

>>212375534
Actors are the niggers of filmmaking

>>212375032
Part of why I said "try Tendi in SNW," so we're comparing NuTrek apples to apples. My point is, Tendi only works in an odd couple comedy pairing. She would fall flat as a regular cast member of SNW, for the same reason Carol Kane's character seems shoehorned in. One note characters are fine for commedia dell'arte but Star Trek has been making an effort to make more nuanced characters in recent years. So if anon (maybe (You)?) is extolling Tendi, then I want to know what makes her a good character for a broad-spectrum Sci-fi show. Otherwise it comes across as trolling or coomerism.
Tendi, as a character, is basically green Wesley Crusher: ingenuous, wide eyed with the wonder of discovery, and possessing hypercompetence for plot-specific conflicts that are never spoken of again. This does not a good character make for anything outside of a sitcom.
>Should there be sitcoms set in the Trek universe?
I'm cool with it.
>Is Star Trek primarily a sitcom?
No.
If you can't make Tendi work in a general Trek series—and I made it easy by saying "try it in SNW" to avoid old-person bias—then she's not a good Trek character.
Put it this way. Ma'ah would probably do well in SNW. He is nuanced. He has development. He's not just there to provide one of two or three opposing viewpoints in any given conflict. His brother less so.
See what I'm doing here? I'm not an "industry insider" but I'm trying to have an earnest conversation about the shows, their strengths and weaknesses, to show it can be done in good faith (of the heart).
You know what I'm NOT doing? Spamming TENDI TENDI GEEZER CULLED TENDI TENDI just to piss off other anons.
I've asked for a good faith discussion and I did not get one, despite liking LD and SNW quite a bit. And you wonder why the "old guard" gate keeps. Good faith begets good faith, and it's in awful short supply lately.

>>212374008
a lot of folks are saying you should photoshop this tim russ album in that photo instead

>>212376081
Agreed. Undoubtedly, that's why Shatner refused to appear on Lower Decks. There's an image that goes along with that, but I didn't save it. Maybe someone else has it.

>>212376371
Not my best but I'm actively taking a dump right now

>>212376324
your viewpoint rests on the assumption that there's a "real trek" and even a "general trek series", which you have now defined as a "broad-spectrum sci-fi show". along with judgments of characters that "seem shoehorned in", in what contexts characters "only work", and how they would "fall flat" in other contexts. nothing but your opinion, which you have attempted to disguise as thoughtful, even factual. you don't work on the show, you're not an industry insider, and your opinions are no more valid than anyone else's. i can't opine on the rest of your post because i haven't watched snw

>>212376492

>>212376640
you just proved him correct that you are incapable of having a conversation in good faith. even when challenged to.

>>212376640
>. i can't opine on the rest of your post because i haven't watched snw
Give it a try and you'll understand. What I mean is that it is isn't a single genre like comedy. Every other Trek series has had comic episodes (The Trouble with Tribbles, Data's Day, The Magnificent Ferengi, arguably Carbon Creek) and SNW is no exception. They all also have dramatic episodes, whodunnits, legal/ethical conundrum episodes etc. If anything SNW plays with genre more than the others.
>you can't say there's a Real Trek!
I'm not. What I'm saying is that every trek to date other than LD has not been a single genre. They've had adventure and romance and horror (even cheesily so, like TOS Catspaw or TNG Sub Rosa), as well as comedy. So the characters of those shows have a track record of working well across different scenarios and genres.
I asked for examples of Tendi working in multiple genres outside of sitcom, multiple times, but no one has said that it sounds plausible. Sure, my opinion is no greater than any other viewer's, but I'm asking for other opinions and receiving nothing other than "I just like Tendi."
Okay, so tell me why you like Tendi and what works about her as a character. Hard mode: no coomer, no heckin' science.
If you can't offer me YOUR opinion in good faith after multiple requests, I don't think it's fair to go about talking about my opinions.

>>212374143
this thread >>212361696 died even faster, but i won't hold it against you

>>212374260
Vulcan became Vulcan the Star Trek mecca because hardcore trekkies from around the world but especially germany came to visit the town, simply because of the name. the small town took advantage of this popularity and explicitly transformed themselves into a Star Trek themed town. now, Vulcan is where the most austere of Star Trek conventions take place every year in July. Inside their Star Trek museum, there is a wall of autographs and headshots from pretty much every single actor who ever worked on the show. if you are cast in Star Trek, you are likely to visit Vulcan Alberta at least once in your life, to at least add to the wall. Leonard nimoy visited the town to commemorate their Spock statue and holds his handprint in bronze

and interestingly, again, not a S I N G L E nutrek thing in sight.

if you truly love Star Trek, and you’re not some contrarian nutrek faggot, you will visit Vulcan and touch the same ground as Roddenberry and Meyers and Frakes

>>212376694
by pointing out that his attempt at conversation was very much not in good faith? and proof is a mathematical concept. you need to learn the difference between "proof" and "evidence"

>>212376857
>by pointing out that his attempt at conversation was very much not in good faith?
is that what you think you did?
>I refuse to engage with your opinion because you've disguised it as thoughtful

is fucking unhinged mental gymnastics

>>212376504
Kushangaza and akoocheemoya to you.

https://youtu.be/xLhTEB7xM90?si=y4oUfJV_XbUfB5Zk

>>212376645
Based Shatner
I wipe my ass with NuTrek

>>212376796
the problem isn't that our opinions differ, it's that you think your opinions are objectively correct, and you try to shove them down our throats. but if you want examples of "serious" episodes of lower decks, there's "crisis point" where mariner uses the holodeck to act out her frustrations against the crew (and even her own mother) in a hyperviolent way, "no small parts" where the crew fights a life or death battle against an adversary as well as a rogue ai, and a main character dies heroically, "where pleasant fountains lie" where they have to unravel a conspiracy against their chief engineer, "first first contact" where they have to take great personal risks to rescue a fellow starship, and that's just off the top of my head and in the first two seasons. the other episodes had plenty of serious material interspersed with comedy

>>212377091
see >>212376081

>>212376843
>some small Canadian town decided to cash in on an inadvertent Star Trek reference
>therefore the opinion you infer from how they cashed in is now canon
Does this make sense in your head when you say it, anon?
>touch the same ground
Ick. You really do treat Star Trek as a religion.

I just report OP

>>212372334 (OP)
Why do you need our approval?

>>212377212
Online corporate shills are the niggers of filmmaking

>>212377269
NTA, but Star Trek is a great religion to have.
what's so bad about Star Trek being a religion?

kill yourself

>>212372334 (OP)
Because it's fucking gay

>>212377177
All good points and Mariner and Boimler would do well across a wide spectrum of Trek shows. Back to my original question, this might be the fourth or fifth time I've asked it: what's so special about Tendi and how do you feel she would fit if dropped into any other Trek series or movie, old or new?

>>212377390
pah wraiths, mostly

>>212376973
>mental gymnastics
it's called "logic", anon. tos-era spock would be very disappointed in you.
>>212377091
so you emphasize evidence that supports your fixed opinions, and dismiss evidence that doesn't. that's a logical fallacy known as "selecting your data". tos-era spock would be very disappointed in you too.
both of you need to prostrate yourself on your altar to tos-era spock (and not the one from the undoubtedly heathen "kelvin" timeline) and beg forgiveness for your transgressions against everything spock stands for

>>212373213
god all it takes to attract you brown people and hold your attention is a reference to sex

>>212372334 (OP)
so /trek/ counts as a single zoomer jerking off to a rick and morty character, now? sage goes in all fields

There is no other way to say it, all the live action Nu-trek is pure shit.
But the animated Nu-trek is not complete shit.

>>212377367
>corporate is le bad
everyone involved in making star trek did so at the behest of a corporation, even a large one, and got paid for their work in creating a commercial entertainment product franchise. the direction of the franchise was dictated by business realities and market demographics from the very beginning. they're certainly not going to make another "balance of terror" episode, because the cold war is over. same for another "way to eden" episode, because hippies are no longer front and center in the zeitgeist. if you're unwilling to acknowledge that, then maybe you're not the real trek fan you claim to be

>>212377582
Dr. Leonard McCoy here. Stop being such a green-blooded faggot

>>212377390
>commercial entertainment product franchise as religion
epic cringe. shatner was in an snl sketch that skewered this sort of hyper-fan viewpoint

>>212377689
>$0.10 has been added to your Paramount Plus account
Nigger

>>212377640
and to think you insisted you deserved a reasoned conversation

>>212377619
star trek has never been different

No one watches modern Star Trek.

Also
>Making fun of your primary demographic as a marketing strategy in current year +10

>>212372334 (OP)
nu-trek isn't trek. It doesn't have anything in common with real trek, it's just action sloppa and girlboss bullshit. Kurtzman fucked this franchise into the dirt, and if anything, oldheads should have gatekept harder so it didn't turn into this

>>212377689
>they're certainly not going to make another "balance of terror" episode, because the cold war is over. same for another "way to eden" episode, because hippies are no longer front and center in the zeitgeist.
OK. Here's my contemporary zeitgeist plot. It's a planet-of-the-week 'sode. The ship visits an alien society. A group of aliens come se eth ship's doctor. They want a perfectly healthy part of their body amputated. For seemingly no medical reason. The doctor performs some scans and discovers these aliens are mentally ill. So, the story focuses on the doctor's ethical dilemma. Do what these aliens are asking for and mutilate their bodies. Because that's what they want. Or, don't do it.

>>212377986
the orville episode "All the World Is Birthday Cake" had a vaguely similar premise. your idea is obviously anti-troon coded, so it won't fly in the hyperwoke hollywood bubble, though you could make your own with ai text-to-video, and if you wrote it well, i would certainly enjoy it. but maybe a similar idea, like a rogue doctor transforming willing humans into klingons, would work. it wouldn't be a violation of the federation laws against genetic enhancement (dating back to the khan incident), because then the federation would have to admit they considered klingon biology to be superior. i think that could be amusing

>>212377986
>rent free
My contemporary idea, I've mentioned it in a prior thread, is the crew finds a planet where everyone is in a Matrix style stasis pod, each with their own simulation where they're an oligarch on top. Each simulation is sandboxed. The crew thinks it's inhumane to keep people isolated and so, with good intentions, unplug them into reality (or link their sims). All hell breaks loose. Turns out post scarcity is easy to achieve but not the psychological changes of avoiding avarice and status competitions. The humane solution was to give everyone their own little sandboxed oligarch sim and the crew has broken that. The genie is out of the bottle and the crew leaves, knowing the planet will be forced to go through turmoil to achieve a true post scarcity culture, and it may take generations. The captain reflects that it took a genocidal world war on earth (and Vulcan, and....) and it may happen again.

>>212377937
"nu-trek" has one very important property in common with what you call "real trek"...it's made by the same company, it involves many of the same people, and the owners consider it part of the same commercial entertainment product franchise

>>212378351
By that logic, the NuTestament, being a continuation of the Old Testament, means that all Christians are Jews.

>>212378351
>Buy rights to Star Trek franchise
>Take dump in box
>Label box "Star Trek"
>You must now acknowledge my excrement to be Star Trek

>>212378351
Replacing literally everyone working at a company does, in fact, result in a different company.

>>212378351
none of the things you mentioned are important. that's why it's not trek.

>>212378164
that's similar to the "bliss" episode of stvoy, though it was imposed without pods. that's also very similar to the "imaginary resources" episode, from the "islands" arc of the show "adventure time". in that, even though everyone found out they were in a matrix-style pod, they voluntarily chose to return to them

>>212378386
belief-based religion has nothing to do with logic, including the stirrings in this thread about a star trek based "civic" religion. also, your post is very offtopic

>>212378517
>employ a form of logic
>the logic is applied to another subject
>that is off topic

>>212378434
yes, that's how commercial entertainment product franchises work. once you buy the rights to a franchise, it's yours to do with as you please. if you don't like what the current owners have done with trek, you can negotiate to buy the rights to it. you can also use ai text-to-video to produce your own fanfic. paramount has traditionally been lenient on enforcing their trademarks as long as you don't try to profit from your fanfic, so there's literally nothing in your way except some effort on your part
>>212378438
companies are more than just people, they also consist of (among other things) legal contracts
>>212378472
the business realities of a commercial entertainment product franchise are very important to people that have the law on their side and can hire lawyers to help enforce their interpretation of the law. this is the way of the adult world

>>212378438
>Replacing literally everyone
Terry Matalas was around during ENT and was showrunner of PIC
Bryan Fuller was around during VOY/ENT and started off STD (when it had some potential promise)
Frakes directs SNW
there are some elements of continuity, we haven't hit a full (Star)Ship of Theseus situation yet

>>212378434
>You must now acknowledge my excrement to be Star Trek
this is how intellectual property law works. i understand you are neither intellectual nor (hopefully) property, but you must follow ze law

>>212378586
you literally admit to bringing up "another subject", so yeah, offtopic

Oh good the nuTrekker started shit again. Lets disrupt the conversation and blame the other side again! That's the nuTrek way! Cut their heads off!

>>212378776
I honestly tried to have a good faith conversation with relevant discussion of characters and shows (I still think Ma'ah is a great character with a great arc). But no - he just wants to TENDI TENDI CULLED CULLED GEEZER GEEZER all day long. I give up; some people just want to watch the world burn

>>212378693
>you must follow ze law
nah. i follow the laws that are convenient to me and nothing else.

>>212378855
There's no point. Better just to let the thread die and hope someone normal starts the next one. Yesterday the faggots pathetic thread made it only to 31 posts it was hilarious.

>>212378659
>some people present during star trek's decline are still at the company so its star trek

... lol

Oh i get it now

>>212378641
>>212378693
You can legally brand your turds as Star Trek but I am under no obligation to acknowledge it. Sorry not sorry, better luck next time kike shill

>>212378901
I still will discuss any Trek show, old or new, in good faith, with anyone who isn't going to spam TENDI CULLED TENDI CULLED or pretend to be a shill with Deadline/Screenrant/whatever screenshots. Those anons do it to make people angry and they do not come here in good faith of the heart

>>212378885
>i follow the laws that are convenient to me and nothing else.
you are a smooth criminal

>>212378693
paramount's interpretation of "ze law" includes tolerating fanfics as long as they're non-profit. which means the "real" fans in this thread are allowed to make their own fanfics, to demonstrate what they consider to be "real" trek. they can even use ai text-to-video to realize their vision so that we can all watch it. and yet they don't. why is that, do you suppose? i have some theories, but they're not very complimentary, so i welcome their explanation

>>212378776
>let's completely ignore the content of the discussion and just focus on "waah waah nu trek"

discuss this

>>212379029
It's a lot to think about, and I do think the big division between "Old Trek" And "NuTrek" is the unwillingness to accept spec scripts. Yet that started in the VOY/ENT era, if i recall.

>>212378885
one of my childhood friends turned out like that. he's now doing 15 to life for his third strike

>>212378901
and then the "real" trek people made their own thread but >>212361696 died even faster. what do you suppose that implies?

You guys will never win against him. He’s a master baiter. No he doesn’t like nuTrek, no you can’t have any conversations with him about, yes he will eventually tire himself out.

>>212379077
>discuss this
in universe: spock, who is tall, was crouched behind a tree to hide; and he needed to remain crouched to clear the tree without bonking his head, and it was logical to remain somewhat crouched during the run to lower his visibility to other klingons
out of universe: leonard nimoy, who is tall, did not want to bonk his head on the tree on his 12th take of the day

>>212379077
They all have really cool boots. And those golden pants, that cape... /fa/ af

>>212379136
That was literally hours later. Your thread died during peak hours. Again, you're just a disingenuous liar not worthy of a reply beyond this one.

>>212379086
but there's no longer any need to get one's spec scripts "accepted"! ai text-to-video, and paramount's tolerance of non-profit fanfics, means we're in a golden age for "real" trek fans to show us their vision! their choice now is to put up or shut up. please, can some "real" trek fan explain why you've done neither? there is literally nothing stopping you

>>212379146
After the merger, Skydance will shut down the shill division and he will disappear

>>212372334 (OP)
Because the new stuff sucks

>>212379192
>peak hours
>where i live is the center of the whole earth

>>212379146
but anyone can save a reference to this thread on 4plebs and repost the reasoned, non-trolling arguments against their unreasonable, trolling arguments

>>212379204
we do that for love

Guys, I think it's time to let /trek/ rest for a while. The Discord spammers

>>212379331
First, explain why you don't use AI text-to-video (otherwise known as version 0 of the holodeck), and Paramount's lenient stance on non-profit fanfics, to show us all your "real Trek" ideas.

>>212379328
Love of rupees, you mean

>>212379151
uh huh. what's your excuse for this one then?

>>212379331
I’m impressed this even came back, I felt the new stuff(both the shows and discussions they generated) just thoroughly soured the whole thing

>>212379374
Because I have a life and a job and no interest nor experience making films. I just like watching Star Trek and have missed it during its 24 year absence

>3 wives
>only 4 children
whats the fucking point?

>>212379435
I came to trek threads originally like 2 months ago to talk about ds9 and then tos and im not leaving til I'm good and ready

>>212379431
winged scapula and general kyphosis exacerbated by smoking.nicotine is a muscle relaxant and heavy smokers have worse posture

>>212379491
ds9 is much better if you view it as the delusions of a black schizoid science fiction writer from the 1950s

>>212379435
General rot is a real thing. The longer a general stays up, the more likely it is to attract schizos. The trolling is impotent because the shows all got canceled but I'd rather not see it at all.
Alternatively, Skydance is about take over Paramount, and Secret Hideout/Important Science are desperate to generate NuTrek engagement to justify renewals under the new order.

>>212379827
>Skydance is about take over Paramount
This will likely not happen, due to the vindictive nature of the current administration; at any rate, two more seasons of SNW will be discussed and if the ESL ever decides to explain if any of his toonfus would make sense on it then I'll be willing to discuss it in good faith. He probably won't, but optimism doesn't cost me anything, so here's hoping.

>>212379461
And that's why I'm not a "real" Trek fan, because I have a life and a job and enjoy whatever I want for whatever reason I want. Now, I wait for the other "real" Trek fans to weigh in. After all, it can't just be a single samefag, can it?

>>212379477
>he hasn't heard of recreational sex

I've now seen all 725 episodes from the original series through to the end of enterprise and all of the movies except section 31. Am I done? Is there anything else worthwhile?

>>212379926
your definition of "making sense" does not obligate me. just as you're not obligated to tell me why you don't just demonstrate your vision of "real" trek with ai text-to-video, given paramount's lenient stance on non-profit use of their trademarks. >>212379461 claimed to have a life and a job, which doesn't explain why he's on 4chan, so i dismiss that as a self-serving lie, but i don't expect him to admit the real reason why

>>212380145
>. Now, I wait for the other "real" Trek fans to weigh in.
For my part, I like spec scripts because, if accepted, people get paid for the work to make it happen. Propmasters, set designers, practical effects etc are good. I think AI steals other people's work, badly, and it is a huge power suck and pollutant. My 2 slips of latinium

>>212380201
You're done. Now watch them again after you finish Galaxy Quest

>>212380201
TAS is TOS S4

>>212375534
"fandom" is a corpo newspeak team.

>>212380249
My answer is here >>212380250

Get a LODE of these losers!
>>212341041
>>212341104

>>212380201
The Orville

>>212380249
>Which doesn't explain why he's on 4chan
It's Saturday so I'm not working and I'm not with my girlfriend right now because she's at the doctor's office. I skullfucked her so hard yesterday that she woke up today with uvulitis. What's your excuse?

>>212380271
I actually kind of enjoyed it. Some of the stories were alright but my god they reused the music like crazy

and added a cat to the crew because uhhhh

>>212380302
yeah no, seth

>>212380283
but those are obstacles to being able to demonstrate your "real fan" vision. the chance of getting a spec script submitted, much less read, must less accepted, much less produced in anything resembling its original form, is effectively zero. why pine for a world that doesn't exist, when you can take the power into your own hands right at this moment? maybe you don't really believe in your "real trek" fandom, and are merely trolling

>>212380314
I watched The Slaver Weapon the other day. Larry Niven was just shamelessly transplanting ideas from his novels into Star Trek, often 1:1.

>>212377269
you’re obviously just pissed off nutrek does not inspire “religion”. could you imagine swaths of Germans travelling to Alberta Canada so they can cry at the michael burnham statue?

>>212380300
And your "real Trek" thread died after 9 posts. What does that make it?

>>212380300
kwab

>>212380429
The "real Trek" thread made it to the bump limit. You wouldn't know, of course. It was intentionally hidden from you.

>>212380304
>the non-ER doctor is open on Saturday

>>212380477
And it was somehow hidden from https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/subject/%2Ftrek%2F/ also. Cope more.

>>212380481
She went to Urgent Care, based retard

>>212380372
>why pine for a world that doesn't exist, when you can take the power into your own hands right at this moment?
I love storytelling and do it in my >>>/tg/ campaigns and very small scale (a couple independent films).
I hate the use of LLMs and GenAI for the aforementioned reasons.

>>212380389
I find the whole idea of basing a religion around a commercial entertainment product franchise to be the cringiest of cringe, and a perfect example of why Shatner told "real" Star Trek fans to "get a life" in the infamous SNL sketch.

>>212378920
>>212379211
Theyre paid to tune this truth out, however long it takes.

>>212380533
The /trek/ died because there already was an active thread in the catalog; your cartroon thread died because no one except you wanted to use it
I'm surprised you didn't samefag it more, but I guess 30 posts was your limit

>>212380616
>excuses, assumptions, speculations
typical geezery

>>212380541

>>212380631
Why not watch and discuss good star trek instead of trek & morty or gay new worlds?

>>212379100
Staying out of prison must not have been convenient for him

>>212380757
there is nothing that was not already discussed about that old crapola
move on and fuck out
nutrek is current

>>212380616

>>212380783
You seem upset about people liking to watch star trek and not your bad stuff, why is that? It makes you pretty mad.

>>212380591
cool. roddenberry’s television show was soooooo good, it radically altered a small town in Alberta. nutrek is so bad, others like you pretend this is a good thing, because it does not inspire others to visit Alberta. sO bAd iTs GoOd is the perfect thesis of nutrek as you obviously claim

>people DONT travel to world for nutrek
>this means it’s BETTER

>>212379100
>my friends are niggers
sad

>>212380282

> OED's earliest evidence for fandom is from 1903, in the Cincinnati Enquirer

And the term has been in common use in SF fandom back to the 60s, and probably back to the 30s.

>>212380631
>>212380813
NuTrek is over. Your screeching is more impotent than ever. You've been crashing out since the SNW news broke.
Let me explain the reality of your situation clearly: NuTrek is over and canceled (the only new show in active development is a series of YouTube Shorts), new company is taking over Paramount very soon (despite you claiming repeatedly that Paramount is doing well and won't be acquired), they may or may not shelf SNW S5 and two seasons of SFA they already shot, and the NuTrek era is effectively forgotten. Everyone is eager to endlessly talk about TNG and you're pissing and shitting your pants because you can't deal with the fact that people would rather discuss thirty year old shows over your slop. And it's new people coming in every day. New fans are discovering the old Trek shows. They're certainly not watching the new stuff. So what you do? You waste your time spamming threads with slop nobody watched, nobody wants to talk about, slop nobody even remembers. There's no scenario where you win here, you're just wasting your time. The conversations and threads will continue and you won't be around enough to keep shitting them up.

Geezer Trek wins again.

>>212380616
That trek thread your referring too (the phange) died because it was 4th of July night and nobody was on. Traffic was dead. There was no other active trek thread except for the one that’s still up about how the transporter kills people. Not defending the tranny nuTrek fag just saying.

>>212380813
are we captioning posts again
i have some old ones

>>212380911
tng is still in the top ten most watched shows on netflix and has been since the platform’s inception

nutrek, is not

starfleet academy will be shelved like batgirl

goldsman and his production company’s contract with paramount will be terminated upon the skydance merger

nutrek is dead. long live nutrek

>>212380900
so "real" trek fans are racist. got it. then it probably doesn't help to say that, far from being of african descent, he was of jewish descent

>>212381026
>starfleet academy will be shelved like batgirl
If Skydance know they're doing, they just should write it off. Repurpose their new fancy set into something else, the 31st century DISCO shit only looks like the most generic science fiction shit ever. You literally could reuse anywhere else.

>>212381055

>>212380999
oh shit I forgot about Kes Says©©™
https://kes-says.com/

>>212381135
>From Guest User (1751741171):
>kes voyager is in danger
OH SHIT

Reminder that Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.

>>212381129
geezers can't prompt

>>212381201
you look pretty in that dress

geezer posting junkie kes mugshot in 1,2,3...

>>212380616
You mean >>212344584, which archived an hour before >>212361696 was posted? There was NOT already an active thread in the catalog. It makes me sad that you have to resort to easily-debunked lies in order to support your position.

>>212381251
>It makes me sad that you have to resort to easily-debunked lies in order to support your position.
is that the emotion you experienced
sadness?
really?

>>212381251
I made you waste time to prove that
you are my bitch
now sing the theme of ENTERPRISE

>>212380541
And even though you claim responsibility for her injuries, you're not there for her? Did she have to drive herself there? Your story has more holes in it than Star Trek canon. Is it really that difficult to live with the truth?

>>212381286
(inhale)
I'VE GOOOOOT FAAAAAAITH

Niggas don't want war, I'm a Martian with an army of Spartans
Sparring with a knife in a missile fight
Get your intel right, your intelligence is irrelevant
But it's definite, I spit more than speech impediments
Brooklyn's the residence, the best and it's evident
We got 'em niggas P.E. nuts, like they elephants
Throw 'em in a trunk if they hate, though
We don't give a fuck as long as we collect our pay, so
Y'all collect pesos, your money ain't right here
I got them girls next to the wood like they Lightyear, I'm right chea
Tryna get a buzz, tryna pollinate
STEEZ got that presidential shit, time to inaugurate
My P.E. conglomerates, 'bout to P-E-E on any wanna-B-E, weak MC
Air 'em out or leave 'em empty, congratulate the semi-auto
Fire flame spitter like komodo
No time for fake people, they be Simmin' like Kimora
I'm the empor-ah in search of Theodora
My heart go, "Ba-boom, ba-boom, ba-boom-boom"
It's panic like Dora when shots blast
See I was raised that way, I'm from the place where they raised that 'K
Like every day in every way, and everywhere you go just ain't safe
The only thing that I can say to you is, "Pray"
'Cause when niggas start equippin', and throw the clip in
Your blood drippin', and catch you slippin'
Another victim, don't know what's hit them—through his spinal
Just another man who defeated by survival

Oh great, it's the usual schizo squad again

>>212380911
https://vocaroo.com/1gPRnSbpiawk

>>212380911

> They're certainly not watching the new stuff! They're just not okay!!!

*taps the sign again*

The general audience and Trekkies specifically watch New Trek. Sorry if that conflicts with you loopy self image as the shadowy leader of a vast online army -- but you're not.

>>212380177
you dont need to be married for that

>>212381485
Cool, can you actually talk about the shows you like rather than act like Mr. Nielsen Q. Ratings?

>>212381295
She went home last night, woke up sick, drove herself to the doctor, then called me to tell me about it. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk

>>212381330
>>212381485
pizza man is in trek news?!
the dossier will never be the same again

>>212380833
>muh frozen hellish small town in Alberta is the center of the universe and what they do to scam tourists is le heckin meaningful
cope more

>>212381485
How do (You) know the numbers aren't cooked?

>>212380708
Love Crazy Eyes so much

>>212381485
paramount literally fired nielsen after this because theyre obvioisly full of shit

>>212381669
>paramount literally fired nielsen

...getting from there to geeze

>>212381585
I feel like I’m Gucci Mayne in 2006

>>212381586
>cope more
If someone wants to turn some weird middle-of-nowhere suburb of Calgary into a Trecca, because they want to have fun with a show they like, how is that "cope?"
Allow me to QUOTE OP:
>>212372334 (OP)
>why can't just have fun
Indeed. Why CAN'T "just have fun?"
Hypocrite.

I am become nuTrek spammer, destroyer of fun

GO WHERE MAH HEART WILL TAKE MEH

>>212381485
400 MILLION VIEWERS? GOLLY GEE! Makes you wonder why they CANCELED IT!
...Oh, it's minutes watched? Let me do some math real quick. 400 million minutes divided by 65 minutes... oh, that's 6 million viewers in total if you don't account for repeat viewings and other shenanigans. So, let's be generous and say at least 5 million people watched TNG's big send-off. That's almost AS MANY as Jodie Whittaker's big Doctor Who send-off. That got 5.3 million confirmed viewers.
How many viewers did TNG average back in the day? Oh, TWENTY MILLION?! Oh man. Also, here's your reminder that despite all the shilling and all the Times Square banners, Lezzie Dykes never made it onto the Nielsen streaming chart. Not even once. I would bet that there are more people rewatching Enterprise on Netflix every weekend than Lezzie Dykes had at its peak.

The only reason I'm even indulging you is because I take delight in rubbing this shit in your face. You deserve it for all the shit-eating smugposting you subjected us to over the years. SEVEN NuTrek shows over the last seven years and not one of them managed to stick around, not one with any lasting cultural impact. Now it's down to Starfleet Academy. The Euphoria-inspired Star Trek show about DEI teenagers set in the most-despised era of the franchise is going to be the flagship now. We'll see how it does.

>>212372334 (OP)
>why can everyone can't not insult my show??

>>212372334 (OP)
Why would I 'have fun with the new stuff' when I can just re-watch the old stuff which is literally x100 better

>>212381837

https://youtu.be/R9AbSCpbKxA?si=o5Vf0pnqXkABJI6_

>>212381920
>set in the most-despised era of the franchise
which era is that?

>>212381920
>6 million viewers
That's about the same as Enterprise in its early seasons. The show that flopped so hard it killed the franchise by the way. Now they have to go all out with nostalgiabaiting to get 6 million viewers.

>>212382046
>which era is that?
STD's 32nd century.

>>212381837
Such was the power of math.

>>212381808
Because you keep assigning some higher meaning to Alberta's tourist trap. Of course people can have fun. But stop pretending that this tourist trap implies some sort of artistic significance. Did you really need that explained?

>>212381669

>paramount literally fired nielsen after this becuse they said paramount shows were popular! They did!!! Nielsem never worked for paramount again!!!

You might want to reflect for a moment before you hit post.

It’s all so tedious. This thread is the same everyday. You guys are almost as bad as he is. Stop replying to him. Stop talking to him. Defending old trek will do nothing because HE DOESN'T CARE. He just likes making you guys mad. Call him out on that? No, HE DOESN'T CARE. He’s a baiter, he baits. Leave the baiting to him. You’re idiots for falling prey.

>>212372556
>>212373213
>>212381762
>>212381229
>>212381201
You are not, in fact, an impish, youthful person engaging in sardonic play. You are ugly man in your mid-30s and your presence in a star trek general on 4chan is evidence enough of this. Your persona here is merely a reflection of your gay pervert sexual tendencies and nothing more.
You are not, in fact, an impish, youthful person engaging in sardonic play. You are ugly man in your mid-30s and your presence in a star trek general on 4chan is evidence enough of this. Your persona here is merely a reflection of your gay pervert sexual tendencies and nothing more.

>>212382123
I had no idea that's when std takes place. at least it makes it thar much easier to ignore

>geezer trek : all cancelled
>nutrek: SNW still won
geezer loses

>>212381920
>Let me do some math

>>212382175
twice?

>>212382164
this is true but saying so makes no difference. you have to just ignore them all and trekpost on your own.

>>212382164
geezers could leave

>>212382258
Terminal fucking autism. Nothing but love bud but remember how you kinda act like we aren’t all in the same room. Do you know how many times you and the other timmys got together behind exposed cover and formulated the brilliant plan of simply ignoring the people who are in actually the reason you come here. If you just wanted to talk about Star Trek and wanted to engage with people about it you’d make a YouTube

>>212382175
You know the most depressing thing about NuTrek? All shows after STD are written in this zany millennial style. Like it's written for zoomers, right? But the audience for NuTrek shows is made up of desperate, forty-something completionists. You know all the memberberries in Lezzie Dykes are not for zoomers, they're for old timers. So why the fuck is the show written like it's for infantile ADHD-ridden teenagers?
The reality is all the zoomers are watching TNG and DS0 and making TikToks of it. And the oldfags are brainlessly eating up the NuTrek slop. And they're content with the infantile writing. It's arrested development. Or reversed development, really. We're dealing with forty-somethings demanding Trek be more juvenile, we're dealing with forty-somethings spamming images of that one green tranny waifu. They're all overgrown elderly children. In that sense, they're worse than zoomers.

>>212382281
You don’t want them to leave just you want them to grow up but you’re equally immature judeth. You think you’re teaching some real hard lessons or something. You don’t even black out pussy

Meanwhile, I'm watching "For the Uniform" it's a pretty good episode.

>>212382349
not really. ignoring isn't hard for me. ive been on 4chan for like 15 years. it's 2nd nature. I cant be the only one. this isn't a "room." It's text on a screen you can scroll past.

>>212382497
Is the text on the screen in the room with us right now?

>>212382281
Yeah man I think I’ll do that. I will go enjoy my geezer shit on my own. I hope you and tendi live and long happy life. Peace out /trek/ this shit sucks.

a love letter from william shatner to "real trek" fans

>>212382542
Your encoding sucks dick.

>>212382410
I am the queen of all generals

>>212382153
What is wrong with picking an arbitrary space to celebrate an arbitrary thing? Give me one reason why people should not feel joy without hurting anyone else.
>>212382164
>>212382258
If anything I tried discussing the new stuff on its own merits in good faith. He didn't return in kind but at least you know there's someone who is willing to do more than troll and coompost about it (I will coompost about TAS and Arex's third leg)

>>212380986
>"real trek" fans here seethe about brown people posting here
>no one was on because it was an american holiday
make up your mind

>>212382635
>What is wrong with picking an arbitrary space to celebrate an arbitrary thing
forced and not organic
too much like trooning

>>212382607
Sounds incriminating

>>212382635
>good faith
died when Riker appeared in ENT

>>212381586
Vulcan is actually in south and experienced chinooks like Calgary. Actually quite temperate. I’ll throw you a bone though, tawny newsome will be Vulcan on July 25th. As an actual Star Trek nerd, she wants to add her autograph to the wall. She will be among the few nutrek autographs on the wall

Isn’t that interesting, oldtrek actors make the pilgrimage and pay homage to the wall. they understand the cultural significance of the show and those who visit from around the world. the nutrek actors, do not. just tawny newsome and mariner would disagree with you

>>212381280
>>212381286
>can't cope, deflect instead

>>212382534
Despite all the screeching and spamming, /trek/ goes on. We might get one bad thread, hell even five bad threads in a row. But discussion just keeps going. And it keeps going because it's organic and genuine. The NuTrek spam fizzles out because it's dishonest and forced.
The general might go away for a while but there will always be people willing to discuss real Star Trek. Because it's good fucking fiction.

>>212381489
>pretends to be an expert on alien marriage

>>212382703
never heard of that until today
heard about Janeway's birth town tho

>>212381569
And you're not there for her? Instead, you're on 4chan? While one of her Chads comforts her in Urgent Care? It's sad that you just make up threadbare excuses. You need to stop.

>>212382782
then you’re not a “real” trekker. Germans knew about it in the 70’s. what’s your excuse?

>>212382845
Germans eat shit also, your point?

>>212382703
>just tawny newsome and mariner would disagree with you
Stop trying to make this a thing. People forgot about this show one week after it ended. Lower Drecks was propped by cameos from Trek characters and actors people ACTUALLY want to see.

>>212381614
>>212381669
>can't cope, assumes le heckin conspiracy

>>212382818
>While one of her Chads comforts
dude, Chads don't care
Betas comfort
christcucks with 1 lay during life can't even comprehend

>>212382853
>one week after it ended
That's what happens when your slop has no actual identity of its own except memberberries and nostalgiabaiting. The Glup Shitto meme exists because of this phenomenon

>>212380986

> died because it was 4th of July night and nobody was on. Traffic was dead!!!

So, although thousands were on site at that time making thousands of posts in hundreds of threads, no one wanted to post specifically in your thread because -- people don't have the free time on a holiday Friday night.

Please reflect before you hit Post.

>>212381998
You can do that all you want, but your tastes are commercially irrelevant, and Paramount makes no money catering to you and your "real Trek" brethren, which BTW are growing old and passing away.

>>212382851
they eat shit and love Star Trek more than (You)

if love for Star Trek is a bad thing, then that explains ALOT about nutrek.

>>212382901
all trek are slop
the diffrence is the old one has sunk cost effect and nostalgia ties to your gayness

>>212382933
>Paramount makes no money catering to you and your "real Trek" brethren,
DS9 4k any day now
>inb4 muh video tapes
>muh effecterinos

>>212382942
>the diffrence is the old one has sunk cost effect and nostalgia ties to your gayness
No. Go on TikTok. You'll see young people discovering the old shows for the first time. And they don't give a shit about the new ones.

>>212382175
>>212382233
"real trek" fan thinks posting his argument twice somehow makes it twice as strong. who wants to tell him

>>212382982
>geezer goes on tiktok
skibidi!

>>212382408
>DS0
appropriate

>>212382982
Tng is currently the 8th most watched show on Netflix

Paramount + is hemmoraging money from production costs on snw and starfleet academy thus the skydance merger

tiktokers pretend to like geezertrek to get money
geezers bite the bait as genuine

>>212383047
>Tng is currently the 8th most watched show on Netflix
according to the gay voices in my head

>>212382581
the noise is from the original video, which appears to be sourced from videotape. my encoding is immaculate. also, cope more, seething about le heckin encoding instead of dealing with the reality that this wasn't really a sketch, this was shatner speaking from the heart here and telling "real" trek fans what he really thinks of them

>>212382933

Had to stop reading the paper's Obituary column. Seeing them mention how the Departed liked TNG and watched tapes of the show into his 90s always makes one a sad Trekkie.

>>212383074
When the skydance merger goes through and starfleet academy is cancelled, I will thoroughly enjoy posting in the /trek/ thread. too bad you don’t have a time machine and go back to enjoy enterprise’s cancellation. such a shame

>>212383047
>Tng is currently the 8th most watched show on Netflix
I know. This is why all the screeching from the resident NuTrek trannies is more impotent than ever.
TNG is good fiction, people will keep discussing it. No one gives a shit about the new slop. You can either accept that fact and move on, or spend the rest of your days trying to shit up all Real Trek threads on this board that'll just keep coming forever.

>>212382877
Chads know an easy lay when they see one. Betas get kicked to the curb. She's there, alone, defenseless, scared, and in pain. And you're here on 4chan. Utterly brilliant.

>>212383166
nobody care about starfleet academy
we only care about culling geezers

>>212382982
>le heckin chinese psyop site and its totally organic traffic proves muh old trek is relevant

>>212382875
>no, anon, rating agencies never lie, ever
Chief, beam that idiot into open space.

>>212383263
they dont if they want to stay in business

>>212383226
I watched tos forty years after its cancellation. it is not geezers you argue, but those who love star trek

>>212383191
Chads don't care about losing an old lay if they have abundance.

Sirs, your sextalk is boring please talk about Star Trek or each of you start roleplaying out some trek themed sexual fantasy for our entertainment to bring you both back on topic.

>>212372334 (OP)
Because its dogshit.

>>212383303
geezer that can't have fun spotted

>>212383173

When Star Trek: Prodigy was a top show on Netflix when it debuted you screamed that didn't matter. But Netflix ranks matters to you very very much now.

So which is it?

>>212383297
geezers hate sex because muh jesus confirmed

>>212383292
But you care about losing your current lay. No, wait, you don't. That's why you're here.

>>212383281
The rating agencies have an incentive to lie. If they rated trash as trash, the companies making trash lose money and go out of business. Collusion on that scale led to the banking crisis, and there is no reason to assume it's any different in the entertainment sector. It's all fraudulent shit. All of it.

NEW
VERY STEALTH GEEZER THREAD

>>212383217
>>212383217
>>212383217
>>212383217

>>212383351
and then prodigy wasn’t just cancelled, it was deleted from streaming existence. poor example to choose

furthermore, your comparison only holds weight if prodigy is a top ten streaming show thirty years from now

>>212383358
apparently someone didn't enjoy sunday school as a child

>>212383263

> Our shows are popular? You are fired!

5 more posts and I can make a Tendi general, which will have more replies than >>212361696

>>212383351
>Star Trek: Prodigy was a top show on Netflix
Where's that S3 renewal then, good sir? Oh, snap! Can't believe this hit is going to be lost media now!
>when it debuted
But that's also a lie. Netflix has a neat little feature where you can see top shows for each week and Prodigy was NOT on that list. What a surprise!

>>212383437
I feel like I should repost my post from that thread

>>212377090
zero scene charisma (feels like he hides his eyes in shame) zero voice and vocal skill on the level of drunk karaoke. Oh and who wrote this? Its obv made to have a good Chorus part but they just never added it? What a shame.

>>212383475
do it anon, i support your decision

GET IT WHILE IT'S HOT!
>>212383488
>>212383488
>>212383488

NEW

>>212383519
>>212383519
>>212383519
>>212383519

>>212383470

Up to you to explain when Netflix ratings only matter when you like them.

NB4: No you!!!

>>212383547
>Netflix ratings only matter when you like them
What ratings? Prodigy was not on any list.

>>212383475
odd choice to repost

>>212383585
but I want to complain more about the anachronisms I've noticed in ENT. but there's like 5 threads now so I'll do it later

>>212383534
kwab

>>212384087
so r u a "real fake wrestling" fan? i only watch wrestling from wrestlemania 2 and earlier. all else is nu-wrestling

>>212384643
yes
hulkamaniacs ftw

>>212378693
You cant buy respect.

>>212385363
sure you can, or else we wouldnt have oligarchs

>rewatching DS9, all those episodes where dukat was trying to charm&impress kira
>reaching the episode where you find out dukat has been dicking down her mom for years and you realise he now wants the newer model.
Dukat really was a chad.

>>212385556
Nah, money can buy safety and yes-men, but not respect.

>>212385647
the only part of respect that matters is the outwardly performed obeisance
obey paramount

Posting this image is not evidence of ban evasion. I don't know why it would be. I have been slandered.

>>212385647
Respect, and fifty cents, won't even buy a cup of coffee anymore.