>>212373018 (OP)
He said the exact same thing ("I have hundreds of pages left") three years ago.

He won't survive making the next book. I would be surprised if he even started it.
Just stop writing now George. Nobody cares anymore.

>>212373018 (OP)
>>>/lit/

>>212373018 (OP)
Kek how funny would it be if the last hundred pages was literally AI? Like boiling a frog; you're reading it and getting closer to the end and your brain just starts feeling weird and like something is not right. Honestly would be a pretty good troll from a fat fuck multi millionaire with one foot in already

>>212373018 (OP)
75% after 14 years, so just over 4 and a half more years to go, or 2030. George will be 80, if he hasn't died of fat yet.

Asoiaf bros we stay winning. he's completed 3/4ths of the book so now he only has five more years left. We eatin good asoiaf bros

>>212373578
it's not linear. he has a writing "system" where he basically starts it again from scratch if something goes wrong.

It will never finish. He’ll die, and then there’ll be an AI robot update every 9 months saying it’s coming soon but it will never release.

What kind of fucking nerd reads this trash

I honestly think the show has burned most fan's goodwill towards the series

Remember when he used "pull a Jordan" to ridicule a much more talented writer and a good man dying before being able to finish his life's work.

>>212373018 (OP)
Eeehh... it's not completely hopeless. Look at the Black Company series - Glen Cook produced a new novel after 18 YEARS.

>>212373018 (OP)
>75% after 14 years
Sure thing, Georgie.
2 more weeks until the Winter, Gurmsisters.

>June 2010: Martin has written four chapters of 'The Winds of Winter'

>July 2010: Martin has written more than 100 pages

>April 2011: Martin predicts 'The Winds of Winter' will take three years to finish

>July 2011: 'A Dance with Dragons' is published

>October 2012: Martin has written 400 pages

>April 2015: Martin hopes to release the book by 2016

>January 2016: Martin reveals he missed multiple deadlines in 2015

>February 2016: Martin isn't writing anything else until 'Winds' is finished

>January 2017: Martin predicts the book will be out 'this year'

>July 2017: Martin confirms he'll release 'a Westeros book' in 2018

>April 2018: Martin confirms 'Winds' isn't coming in 2018

>June 2018: Martin says 'Winds' is still his 'top priority'

>November 2018: 'Fire & Blood' is published

>May 2019: Martin jokes fans can 'imprison me' if he's not finished by July 2020

>June 2020: Martin still has a 'long way to go'

>February 2021: Martin still has 'hundreds of more pages to write'

>March 2022: Martin admits he made 'less' progress in 2021

>October 2022: Martin is 'three-quarters of the way done'

>December 2022: Martin has 400 or 500 pages left to write

>>212373578
Rich people live an extra 20 years on average on account of being able to afford doctors that aren't ass. He's still more likely to die flying out to sign his name on someone else's work.

>>212374190
Only the bottom doesn't really apply to GRRM. Look at Ned Stark - the whole point of his death and subsequent event is to show that, while in the short term the morally bankrupt have won, soon after they start eating one another, while the land they hold constantly plot on how to get a Stark back on the throne of Winterfell due to the love and loyalty Ned imbued into people.

>>212373018 (OP)
source is a video from 2 years ago lmao

>>212373018 (OP)
Didn't he say the exact same thing three years ago?

>>212374233
people who post this shit don't read LotR or ASoIaF

He'll only release it posthumously

he knows nobody will give a fuck about him once he releases it

>>212373018 (OP)
I genuinely don't understand why he keeps talking about the book
Hes never doing it during promotions for other things. He doesn't have a YouTube channel to use this as free advertisement for
Why doesn't he just shut up. Why knowingly lie every 6 months for no net gain

>>212374206
>the books was set to follow the plot of the tv show all along

>>212374233
>'look at the only truly fleshed out character death from the beginning of the series and ignore what came after'
no

>>212374131
Ya, fuck Martin. Jordan cared so much about his books and the world he built that he spent his last days alive with Sanderson so his story got finished the way he wanted.

Martin only cares about his bank account. 14 years to only get to 75% shows the man is a hack

>>212373307
he has basically said hes almost done with winds multiple times at this point through the years

>>212374284
>Why knowingly lie every 6 months for no net gain
I think when he says this stuff, he believes in his heart that THIS time he means it. If he's anything like me (manic work periods of extreme productivity followed by extreme downswings where absolutely nothing gets done), he probably makes these announcements after getting a ton of work done and idealistically thinks that if he can just keep it up, he'll be done in no time. Even if you know you're own patterns, when in the manic phase, it's really easy to convince yourself that "this time will be different".

>>212374291
give him a break, anon. The death of Ned Stark is as far as he read.

>>212374206
>>November 2018: 'Fire & Blood' is published
>>May 2019: Martin jokes fans can 'imprison me' if he's not finished by July 2020
>>June 2020: Martin still has a 'long way to go'
i remember these announcements. this stretch broke me and made me stop caring about winds.

>>212374215
Not if he remains a fat bastard though
When was the last time he was seen in public? He's probably on the ozempic now
>>212374206
This needs updated, you can just copy and paste the last two lines and add "July 2025"

>>212374424
>Martin only cares about his bank account. 14 years to only get to 75% shows the man is a hack
I can't fucking blame him. Authors are typically extremely broke all the time. The dude ended up striking gold in his twilight years and suddenly has a shitload of money and mainstream clout. How much time does he have left on the earth? He could either spend it writing a story that HBO already did dirty, or he could party with celebrities and have hot chicks sit on his lap and stroke his beard while drinking expensive scotch.
As much as I'd like to see a REAL ending to the story, I can understand his position.

>>212374548
This theory breaks apart upon examining reality. The man watches the various shows closely and is extremely bitter about them drifting away from the source material, to the point he made that infamous, now deleted, blog post. According to various sources, he is now hovering over the "Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" show like a hawk, since he DOES have some creative control there.

As an example of someone who actually doesn't give a fuck about his IP's adaptation, I refer you to Andrzej Sapkowski.

>>212374548
At least be a man enough to tell everyone you're going to fuck off. His constant lying about the book is almost malicious, he's never going to finish the series. Does he need the attention? I don't get it. I doubt many people believe him anymore.

>>212374233
Gurm loves his shades of grey characters.
>I think the books are realistic. I've always liked gray characters. And as for the gods, I've never been satisfied by any of the answers that are given. If there really is a benevolent loving god, why is the world full of rape and torture? Why do we even have pain? I was taught pain is to let us know when our body is breaking down. Well, why couldn't we have a light? Like a dashboard light? If Chevrolet could come up with that, why couldn't God? Why is agony a good way to handle things?

He's an atheist or agnostic.
>I suppose I'm a lapsed Catholic. You would consider me an atheist or agnostic. I find religion and spirituality fascinating. I would like to believe this isn't the end and there's something more, but I can't convince the rational part of me that that makes any sense whatsoever. That's what Tolkien left out — there's no priesthood, there's no temples; nobody is worshiping anything in Rings.

>>212373018 (OP)
He ate it?

>>212374640
>As an example of someone who actually doesn't give a fuck about his IP's adaptation, I refer you to Andrzej Sapkowski.

Or Garth Ennis

>>212373018 (OP)
>20 years later
>it's 90% done guise

>>212374206

>>212375417
>That's what Tolkien left out — there's no priesthood, there's no temples; nobody is worshiping anything in Rings.

...aaaannndd he's completely wrong.
>Elves don't worship the gods because they literally live among them.
>Dwarves don't worship gods because they have a deep, personal connection to one of them. The same for Treants.
>Eagles are spirits, they've literally looked upon the face of the One, every breath they take is a prayer towards him.
>Humanity, or Numeanoreans, to be exact, have been given the rare privilege of directly worshipping Eru, and they fucked it up. The rest have been granted another blessing - the Gift of Man - which has been warped by Morgoth into something they instead fear. That is the tragedy of Man - that they will only know relief after death, and if they lived a good life, will move on to a blessed eternity and a grand adventure.

>>212375869
>cont.

Prayer is necessary in a religion based on faith. Men in Middle-Earth KNOW that God exists, because Satan and his spirits are literally walking the Earth, as do angels.

LMFAO
> Do you feel like you owe your fans anything? At end of the day, is there a responsibility?

>I think owe is the wrong word. I try to give them a good story. And I like my fans — the vast majority are great. I probably have more interaction with fans than any author I know. By and large, I'm very nice to my fans. But I don't owe it to them to be nice. And if I wanted to withdraw, that would be my right. I certainly believe it's my right to take off Sundays and watch NFL football and go to conventions and work on other projects — the more hardcore trolls, that's what they object to. You met [his assistant] Ty, he think it's generational. That people who are angry [about Book 5 taking six years] are younger people from what he calls The Entitlement Generation. They want instant gratification — something that they're used to from the Internet. I'm from the Baby Boomer generation, and we had to wait for s–t, man. If I heard about a book, it might never come to the spinner rack at the local drugstore. If I wanted to see a movie, we'd have to hope they'd show it on television at some time. It's Ty's theory, not mine, but maybe it's true.

>younger people from what he calls The Entitlement Generation. They want instant gratification — something that they're used to from the Internet. I'm from the Baby Boomer generation, and we had to wait for s–t, man.

>>212373752
kek, that's literally what tolkien did writing lotr, everytime he changed his mind about something he would start from the beginning again. QUIBBLE.

>>212373018 (OP)
He's been saying 75% for years

>>212375916
Says who?

>>212376029
Boomers acting like this and then describing others as entitled is the funniest thing.

>>212373018 (OP)
Ah, so he finally got Sanderson to finish it I see.

>>212378197
chadderson would never touch that dreck

>>212378163
I'm looking forward to see them being dominated by the Millennials.

i hope its vastly different than what happened in the show

HOLY SHIT HE WROTE TWO WORDS TODAY

So assuming he keeps up this pace, we only have 3.5 years to go.

>>212373018 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwa6xgIZCv8

>>212374233
Preach, the worst part of the show was excluding all of the buildup that showed how Eddard Stark wasn't just a naive idiot and that his character earned a lot of loyalty to House Stark which guaranteed a lot of people rose up for absolutely no reward to protect his children and ensure that House Stark will not be abandoned.

>>212379507
Exactly. People like Ned Stark or Stannis Baratheons are leaders, while Littlefinger, Tywin, Caersei etc. are schemers.

Even the biggest asshole would rather have someone whose words can be relied on lead rather than some raving, bloodthirsty, backstabbing lunatic.

>>212373752
poor fuck doesn't know how MS Word works and that you can save your progress

>>212373752
>where he basically starts it again from scratch if something goes wron

That's not true. He likens it to a garden, which is why he has allowed so many plot points to spring up.

Fun fact: in an interview last year he said he realised that he killed off a character that is actually necessary for the ending he has planned for the story.

Any ideas on who that might be, anons? My best guess would be Viserys.

>>212379812
If he meant someone more recent, maybe Quentin? I assumed his death was meant to give a reason for Dorne to side with fAegon instead of Daenerys.

>>212379967
>quentin
>dead

It's clickbait. That's from 2022. I knew it looked suspicious. I remember reading something like that before.
https://ew.com/books/george-r-r-martin-says-he-is-three-quarters-of-the-way-done-with-the-winds-of-winter/ (2022)
Also the comment section is pointing that out, too.

>>212374640
How does that have anything to do with my "theory"? You literally did not address anything that I said. I never said he doesn't give a fuck about his IPs adaptation

>>212374284
He desperately wants for the fans to stick around and keep showering him with attention wherever he goes, so he regularly has to throw them a bone.

>>212379967
>>212379812
I actually wish he'd reverse the subversion by revealing he actually did survive and managed to tame a dragon.

Sometimes fantasy tropes need to be played straight.

>>212374685
I think he really believes his own BS. He knows he fucked up his last countless deadlines, but THIS time he's really going to buckle down....

>>212380183
>How does that have anything to do with my "theory"?

If he didn't care about the IP he'd do exactly what Sapkowski did - fuck off with the money, politely decline any interviews, and live in luxury.

>>212375417

>>212380219
I never said he doesn't care about the IP, retard. I said it was easy to understand why, on any given day, he'd choose to live it up instead of writing. That doesn't mean he doesn't still care about the IP, but he's procrastinating just like most of us do.

This news is years old, he's been on "only 25% to go guys!" since like 2021

he's actually finished the books, but they are held in escrow by his death just to fuck with people who kept asking when the books coming out

>be Ulysses Grant
>be dying of throat cancer from years of alcoholism/smoking way too much
>have a few months to live at most
>family finances are shit because you truly were an abject failure at everything other than marriage and war
>be friends with Mark Twain
>he makes a deal with you that you write your memoirs, he'll publish them and ensure your family won't be facing imminent poverty
>stay up night and day writing
>finish
>die less than a week later
>memoirs go on to be a best seller

>be George Rail Road Martin
>have two decades to finish final two books in much loved trilogy that was so popular at its zenith that it got a decade-running television adaptation that was a cultural icon of the 2010s
>eat yourself to death instead

>>212379750
>ms word
fuck out of here with that newgen shit
https://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/how-george-r-r-martin-writes-on-an-old-school-dos-computer/

>>212380297
Its funny before that he would always say 200 to 400 pages complete which was just the left overs from dance which means he wrote nothing for a decade until the pandemic for winds.

>>212374284
He's legally obligated to finish the series for the publisher. If he ever said "I'm not writing them", he could get sued for breach of contract.

>>212380186
Also this.

>>212373018 (OP)
For what? Whenever he says that he's almost done, I presume he means with his life.