Jessie Gender Appreciation Edition

>>212383488 (OP)
It's not a thread we need but a thread we deserve right now.

>>212383673
It's properly formatted. It will do.

Have you thanked him yet for keeping Trek straight for over thirty years?

>>212383488 (OP)
This is what the libs of the '60s doomed us to.

>>212383762
Libs of the 60s would be conservative by today's standards.

>>212383488 (OP)
Nice digits but Pride Month is over

>>212383756
I never doubted him. He oversaw the golden age of the franchise.

>cartoon tranny thread nuked
Oh no! Better luck next time!

>>212383985
KEK I got to own the faggot as well before it got nuked.

>>212383985
We'll still stuck with a literal tranny thread thoughbeit

>>212383756
man I don't give a shit about the sexuality of pretend characters as long as they're well written
Geordi and Data could've been fucking for all I care but they had character arcs and personality
The STD guys, Culber and Stamets, had no personality besides "different flavors of bitchy queen" and no character arc besides "bitchy queens in relationship"
Braga, Pillar, Taylor, and RDMoore all knew how to write a god-damned character right.

>>212384187
>as long as they're well written
That's cool but I'd rather not have any queers in my shows at all. It attracts the worst kinds of fans, see >>212383488 (OP).

>>212383519, we hardly knew ye.
>>212383985
>>212384016
still seething over >>212361696 i see.

>>212384555
tranny tuber thread versus green cartoon thread thread!
whoever shall win!?

>>212384681
the first general made wins

>>212384894
Sucks for you!

>>212385181
as long as there is somewhere to have thoughtful discussions about star trek that will be conveniently ignored as the lot of you degenerate into squabbling and waifu coomposting

Well /trek/? Shall you be reading?
What if I told you it graphically described Nana Visitor's rape? How about then?

>>212385273
Well, I for one think that the Jessie Gender edition will go down as one of the best /trek/s in ages!

>>212383488 (OP)
this dude should really get some sunlight

There's a sister thread discussing "Star Trekkin'" by The Firm! And the "Stone Trek" parody! >>212385035

>>212383985
You are a pathetic fucking faggot

>LGBTQ History of Star Trek
oh we know

>>212383488 (OP)
I fully believe that cosying up to this weirdo is one of the reasons NuTrek failed. Like, if you're going to do some performative trans shit for neoliberal brownie points, at least choose one of the hot ones, not a manly creepy one like this one.

weird sounding compliment but this guy played a really convincing low-key rapist

>>212383488 (OP)
Say what you want about Jessie, but she's hanging in there.

The suffering of Miles Edward O'Brien

Has NuTrek really cozied up to trannies? STD had a "they/them" but it was a Trill so actually multiple people, and also a female to "male" who detrooned and went back to looking like a girl when she got to choose her body LOL but they still called her "he".
SNWflake SNW had an actual troon who was also called a they/them even though he thinks he's a girl in real life . At first I was annoyed about this tranny being there but then it turned out he was the villain of the episode! And at the end of the episode Pike basically says if he ever sees that troon again he would make him "walk the plank" (join the 41 percent) That was actually a nice return of the based Pike from the Cage who wanted to become a slave trader and couldn't get used to a woman on the bridge! I wish they would give Pike more non-PC moments. I just wish if they had to be woke they would do it like TOS that had "diverse" characters but didn't make a big thing out of it. If they just had a tranny in the background, or someone with a genetic condition or something, they could still be "diverse" without being woke

>>212385957
That assumes anyone had even heard of this podcaster, or this alleged "cozying up". I certainly hadn't. Terminally online much?

>>212383217

>>212386379
>Has NuTrek really cozied up to trannies? STD had a "they/them" but it was a Trill so actually multiple people, and also a female to "male" who detrooned and went back to looking like a girl when she got to choose her body LOL but they still called her "he".
>SNWflake SNW had an actual troon who was also called a they/them even though he thinks he's a girl in real life .
And those are your two troons. Which isn't much. But tranny has replaced cuck as the new insult here, so whatever.
SNW has the troon married to Sybok, which is stupid. Sybok was misguided but sincere in his beliefs and his desire to help others, and to that end had an ascetic life on the Planet of Peace or whatever it was called. Someone with a monastic life like that ought not to be married. The character of Angel/Aspen was obnoxious and grating as well, and anyone who Shared Their Pain ™ ended up peaceful and serene (vs. an emotional squall, as it were).
If SNW were a separate continuity, a slightly different universe with 0.38% difference or wherever the last season of Lower Decks had, it might make sense. But SNW Sybok didn't jive with TFF Sybok.

>>212386260
He didn't stick his hyperspanner in the crazy, despite her being hot. Good instincts.

>>212386596
How deep does /trek/lore go on this feud? (I'm semi-new)

>>212383488 (OP)

And what is Jessie Gender's favorite Trek? Why the scrappy underdogs of -- Star Trek: Enterprise.

Jessie is Bent 4 ENT!

>>212387055
>Bent 4 ENT!
okay normally I hate this retard slap fight you faggots periodically have but damn it if you don't have a way with words sometimes

>>212384225
Correct.

>>212385420
Was it like Fran Dreschers rape? A bunch of niggers break in, hold her at gunpoint, and turn her husband gay by making him watch?

>>212383488 (OP)
Does Trek legitimately have real LGTBQ stuff before nuTrek outside of shit like Garak mincing it up or the TNG episodes with the third gender aliens?

>>212387371
They say Sulu but hes barely a side character.

>>212387371
STD has two gay men (the shops doctor and the engineer) in a relationship, as a substitute for them actually being fleshed out characters who do anything other than just be in a relationship talking about their relationship

>>212387371
Afraid so

>>212387371
Most of it was in the fanbase with the Kirk/Spock stuff in fantiction. But the last episode of TOS did have kind of a Tranny theme to it.

>>212383488 (OP)
WTF

>>212387429
Is there really anything to that beyond Takei being gay and these people retroprojecting Takei's homosexuality onto the character?

>>212387593
I consider STD nuTrek.

>>212387645
Thanks for the response. Interesting note about TOS.

If I wrote a new Trek, it would lean towards a focus on: investigation/discovery/interaction/documation/analysis of new species in the Delta quadrant or some other very uncharted part of the galaxy.
It'd involve a science vessel that is smaller than most Enterprise-class ships by maybe 1/2 or so. Specifically geared for an exploratory mission to a bermuda-like zone that features a type of warp/scientific phenomena that both disallows entry and very much outward sight into the region but also appears to be causing an unusual influence on the few species that have been documented in the area. Specifically, causing bursts of exptreme biodiversity that lead to an exponential flourish of new species that derive from the originals in the area but have bizarre or mind-bending adaptations to the environment. Some even existing in other dimensions or are highly ephemeral or ethereal in nature.
This experimental science vessel is the first of it's class that provides resistance to "warp-like" influences (like the environmental effect that one character had in Shensekai yori mixed with the design/artstyle of "Mushi" in Mushishi or the yokai in Princess Mononoke).
This would be a very Bio-focused series. Two seasons MAX to not overstay it's welcome. Format would be akin to X-files in which there would be "specie/investigation" of the week peppered with an overarching plot that both shows up as B-plots in one-off episodes as well as having approximately roughly 1/3 of all episodes per season devoted to meaningfully moving the overarching story forward (no Lost, From etc. cock-teasing).
I haven't watched Strange New Worlds but I'm reading through the episode synopses now and it doesn't seem to really live up to it's name. This would be more fitting. And less gay.

>>212387371
There was that one ensign in that one episode that had the frame of a woman but the moustache of a Mexican drug runner and I still don't know what gender it truly was.

>>212387782
I think most normies would find that very boring. I could be wrong, but I don't think very many people would want to watch fake Richard Attenborough in space. They want drama, conflict, mystery, and romance.

>>212387371
Mirror Ezri was flat out gay. That's about all I can think of that's beyond dispute.

>>212387981
Fuck the normies. This is Star Trek. That exact thought pattern was applied by Akiva Goldsman and Kurtzman. Look at what we've gotten for the last 20 years. And before that even with a lean towards nromie-pandering oin Enterprise, even VOY with the ever-dumbing down. If people can't get capital H hard sci-fi from Trek, where can you?
Also, the main A-plot that I referenced but didn't go into would be that dramatic tension. I only described the backdrop, setting, premise, formatting and design-preferences. WTSHJM

I looked up the imdb for the Enterprise episode "Detainment" and found a review that gave it 4/10 and defended the Japanese internment camps.

>During the filming of the episode, Nana Visitor slipped on a wet stairway and hurt her back. While Visitor wanted to film her scenes as usual, Rick Berman urged her to go to hospital. However, when she arrived at the hospital still in full makeup, the doctors initially ignored her back in favor of her "terribly broken nose."
based

>>212388234
>If people can't get capital H hard sci-fi from Trek, where can you?
the expanse

>>212387371
>DS9 had a "lesbian" kiss since both hosts were female
>Trill in general could be considered transgender. Sisko called both Jadzia and Ezri "old man" because that's how he remembered Dax (as Curzon). They didn't seem to have a problem with she/her or he/him pronouns
>Jadzia at least is probably pansexual since she'll fuck anything that moves, even Morn
>Changelings used binary pronouns but were ultimately genderless
>same with the Jem'hadar
>I think that genderless alien Riker fucks into becoming a woman would also count

>>212389000
>were ultimately genderless
she's literally called THE FEMALE CHANGELING and has huge tits

>>212388234
OK, just wanted to express my opinion. What other sources of dramatic tension were you considering, then?

>>212383811
Nah they're fucked up freaks and are still ruining the world by creating shit like blm

>>212389000
Pretending this was lgbtqp representation is retarded, it was supposed to be titillating

>>212389057
that's how she presented to humans but her "true" form is liquid, possibly part of the Great Link

>>212383488 (OP)
This isn't /ltbq/, you disgusting cunt. Stop spreading this poison and lies.

>>212389000
>Trill in general could be considered transgender.
They don't do the full horror show that trannies are. So, no. That's bullshit.

>>212389326
no, she could have looked like androgynous neuter version of a generic humanoid form or anything else in particular but she chose to be a female with breasts and a female voice. and other Changelings chose to be males. they are not genderless.

>>212388620
Better internment camps than what Japs did to their POWs.

>>212389556
wow no shit we managed to be better than some of the most evil depraved shit that ever took place on the planet earth. rah rah.

>>212389176
>>>/pol/

>random crewman gets a name and characterization
oh no...

>>212390536
I hate how he died for nothing. Whad a sickening episode. At least there's booba in it

>>212389344
But Star Trek is gay media, like Queer Eye and Queer As Folk.

>>212387371
>Does Trek legitimately have real LGTBQ stuff
well the Borg weren't using ciswarp conduits were they

>>212386856
Some Trek fans here are fanatical gatekeepers, with firm definitions of what is "real" Trek and what isn't, mostly dividing along the line of modern cultural trends such as "woke", with a particular fixation on "trans". They approach this with a fervor that brooks no competing interpretations, and any such originations are met with hostility, derision, and dogpiling. The Trek fans that aren't as offended, or threatened, by this tend to be targeted, and some of them have grown tired of this and decided to fight back, despite preferring peaceful discussion. I see it as a metaphor for America, which is historically isolationist until provoked, at which point its adversaries wish they hadn't prodded the bear.

when I recognize bit part actors in different alien makeup than last time

>>212390536
i liked him better as an unrepentant murderer on voy

>>212391780
Suder was the best murderer on Voyager.

>tfw none of my friends are into Trek or are willing to actually get into it
Episodes for this feel?

>>212394290
Are they uninterested in Trek in general? Or is it particular series? If they like submarine movies, you should show them the TOS episode "Balance Of Terror", whose plot was basically lifted from a submarine movie called "The Enemy Below". If they think they don't like TNG, I've used the episode "A Matter Of Honor", where Riker participates in an exchange program and becomes the first office of a Klingon ship temporarily, to consistently win over doubters. So provide more info about your dilemma & I'll try to help.

>>212394290
In The Cards because Jake is shitting his pants over something Nog couldn't care less about but he helps anyway because they are BROS 4 LYFE

Janeway and Chakotay are trapped in a time loop in a shuttlecraft. Fun stuff on Voyager as always.

>>212395128
Hmmm now Janeway is the only one who remembers the time loop and she also has the phage. What's gonna happen next? I don't know. I like Voyager because it's unpredictable.

>>212387751
Takei has even gone on record saying just because he's gay doesn't mean Sulu is, and he thinks gay-ifying Sulu just because he used to play him is really stupid because he's just playing a role and it doesn't matter that much

Which I agree with but also Takei has said other stupid things in the past but I guess that just goes to show people can be both right and wrong about different things because we're all individuals and no man is an island

>>212395198
Now Janeway is a ghost and Kes can sense her. Janeway keeps dying in the time loops but this time she is disconnected. Good shit. That is all.
Captcha: ASSPY

>>212395380
I'm surprised to learn he said that. It's pretty cool of him.

>>212395380
nah if I was a gay actor it'd piss me off too. it's basically saying you're not capable of playing a character that isn't gay.

>>212394990
Treachery, Faith and the Great River does this too

>>212394831
I think they might be uninterested in Trek in general. They like stuff like Better Call Saul. I don't know what to show them.

>>212383939
Unfortunately he wasn't overseeing enough during the final year or two of DS9.

>>212386596
>My mother....unalived herself

>>212391554
Maybe they are hostile because they would prefer to discuss star trek, not trek & morty, spic, std, or gay new worlds.

>Archer and the Gang just unalived 3600 aliums
Oh nooooooo

>>212396355
I like better call saul because slippin jimmy is the asshole who succeeds except for the end. Try showing them the ds9 episode where quark tells sisko what he really thinks of humans.

nasty little troll, go back to your troll thread >>212391870

>>212396849
Better than becoming "useless", I guess.

>>212397086
>HE DEFECATED THROUGH A WORMHOLE

>>212398742
Is that actually Chuck McGill?

>>212398862
Autism?

>>212396355
If they like criminals, may I suggest the "Mudd's Women" episode of TOS. Mudd is a con artist that the Star Trek crew has to deal with a few times.

>>212398742
Imagine a society that invented wormhole technology, but used it for something as jejune and pedestrian as toilets. So somewhere in some random sector of the galaxy some poor beleaguered Federation planet is literally being shat on because some other civilization created wormhole crappers. Plot twist: the civilization is prewarp so prime directive applies. Boom. I just did a better Lower Decks episode capsule than that hack fraud thumb.

>>212386260
>>212386819
He had a perfectly good alien at home why downgrade?

>>212386638
>>212391870
And another one bites the dust...
Not a good day to be a grumpy grandpa.

This is now an Intendant thread. Thank you for understanding.

>>212399472

>>212383488 (OP)

>>212399678
>kids stacked to the ceiling
what in God's name?

>>212383488 (OP)
>tranny
>calls self "[something] Gender"

You people are a fucking cartoon parody

>they faked a core breach
pfffffffffff oh brother

>>212385931

So how many people in this thread are avid Star Trek fans? Because I only saw some episodes of Enterprise.

>>212399865
These words spoken by someone who regularly posts on 4chan btw.