Thread 212409709 - /tv/ [Archived: 653 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:11:35 PM No.212409709
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American History X
>Daniel is an idealistic and intelligent young man
>his father, who he is close to, says some casually racist things that Danny argues with him over
>one of Dannys mentors is a teacher who is black
>Dannys dad is killed by black men
>because of this, Danny dives deep into anti-black rhetoric
>He joins an Neo-Nazi skinhead crowd and his intelligence is noticed where he is made a leader figure of the group by and older Neo-Nazi
>this older neo-nazi takes the place of the gap left by his father and fuels the flames of hatred in Danny for his own ends
>When Danny realizes Neo-Nazis are just thugs, he tries to leave and prevent his younger brother from following in his footsteps, realzing that the mentor is simply using them and doesnt really care about them
The Believer
>Daniel is a self hating jew that becomes a neo-nazi skinhead

American History X is a much more compelling story and its not even close.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:17:08 PM No.212411252
That rant on the believer. Insane.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:26:57 PM No.212411489
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:17:23 PM No.212412901
huh
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:18:27 PM No.212412935
>>212409709 (OP)
The Believer has a kino ending
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:57:54 PM No.212414018
>>212411489
loved these games as a kid. I had the Jurassic Park and the Lion King one.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:04:01 PM No.212414165
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>>212409709 (OP)
The whole believer jew thing is confusing to me.
>Jews from Israel don’t count.. because they just don’t ok?!
https://youtu.be/He1TntAK2fs
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:08:59 PM No.212414313
>212414165
Its very loosely based on a real guy. Like the only cross over was that there was this jewish guy who became a prominent neo-nazi in the 60s and ended up killing himself after his jewish heritage was exposed. But the movie The Believer never really investigates why someone would do something like this so it just directionless.

American History X is about a white guy becoming a neo-nazi and it explores this in the best possible way.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:12:04 PM No.212414407
>>212414165
An interesting thing about this scene is that as Gosling gets more and more agitated as he rants, he rants like a nasaly jew. Im not sure if this was intentional or not, but its unmistakable.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:15:17 PM No.212414511
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>>212414165
>They have Israel.
>Those aren’t Jews.
>Of course they’re Jews.
>Notice the Israelis. It’s a fundamentally secular society, they no longer need Judaism because they have soil. Because the real jew is a wanderer, he’s a nomad. He’s got no roots and no attachments, so he universalizes everything. He can’t hammer a nail or plow a field all he can do is buy and sell and invest capital and manipulate market, it’s all mental. He takes a life of a people that’s rooted in soil and turns it into a cosmopolitan culture based on books, and numbers, and ideas. And this is his strength. Take the greatest jewish minds ever. Marx, Freud, Einstein. What have they given us? Communism, infantile sexuality, and the atom bomb. In the mere 3 centuries it’s taken these people to emerge from the ghettos of Europe, they’ve ripped us out of a world of order and reason they’ve thrown us into the chaos of class warfare, irrational urges, relativity, into a world where now the existence of manner and meaning is in question. Why? Cause it’s the deepest impulse of a jewish soul to pull at the very fabric of life until there’s a thread. They want nothing but nothingness. Nothingness without end.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:31:44 PM No.212414938
>>212414511
No nazi actually believes this.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:35:11 PM No.212415025
>>212414938
Most neo-nazis are just dumb idiots who just have a pathological and conspiratorial hatred of jews. They take on the mantel and symbols of nazism, but theres no real ideology behind it. Literally just dumb villagers hating "the other" from the next town over mindset for the mass of sub 100 IQ NPC yokels.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:37:12 PM No.212415078
>>212415025
Hello rabbi
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:39:44 PM No.212415161
>>212415078
literally proving the point
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:58:21 PM No.212415736
>>212414511
I refuse to believe jews are capable of genuine self-critique. Notice how this guy is basically just sucking their dicks in a backhanded way. This is the way they see themselves, this is what they think chuds think like.

>>212409709 (OP)
American History X is also retarded, and also written by a jew. Like, it also has zero understanding what turns chuds into chuds or why the scenario the movie depicts is completely impossible and it's also just tastelessly kitschy.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:00:46 PM No.212415812
>>212409709 (OP)
The Believer was a completely bogus and stupid movie, he flip-flops between his convinctions purely because the movie needs the drama to happen instead of writing it to be natural. The concept itself is completley improbable and ridiculous but could've been salvaged with some good and focused writing.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:02:55 PM No.212415891
>>212414018
I had one with a father jet.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:04:46 PM No.212415953
>>212415891
Fighter jet.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:14:04 PM No.212416286
>>212409709 (OP)
Both are subversive garbage, don't forget that vinyard was supposed to go back to being racist in the original ending but the hollyjew execs had it changed at the last second because being a nazi is le heckin bad.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:09:22 PM No.212418237
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>>212415078
Where’s the lie? All you guys do is exist to make critics of Israel look justified.