Fishing for bait addition
threadly reminder that old trek geezers have no life
>>212441653Luxwanna at like 25 is perfect girl
Previous thread (such as it was):
>>212411636
I just realized in the year of our Lord 5785 that the Orville jokes about Avis and Hertz are because the other major auto rental company is named Enterprise. Okay Seth, not a bad joke.
>>212443472One of my favorite exchanges is between Yaphit and the chief engineer in episode 111, "New Dimensions".
"Hey! If we match the deflector amplitude to the quantum wave function, it should compensate for any field instability."
"I like when you talk dirty."
>>212443616kek fake science btfo
Any /trek/+/bb/ Paramount Plus chads around? Peeling off from the live feeds to get a DS9 episode in is comfy as hell.
>>212443845Looks wise but I want the luxwanna personality
>>212444921>paying for treklmao even
let me get this straight
do geezers want new trek that is exactly the same as the 90s or they just want to reminesce about the past?
That episode of Orville where they show the gay alien Rudolph made me wonder what it'd be like to show DBZ to a bunch of klingons.
I feel like Worf would get weird feelings from relating to Vegeta and Goku
>>212445565We want more trek like TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY. They all had great acting, casting, episodic so you didn't need to watch an entire season to pick it up, normal lighting and not everything in near darkness constantly and filtered to shit, etc.
>>212445633was Star Trek Continues good enough? if that oficial, would that be enough?
>>212445565I just want New Trek that has the structure and time alottment of old Trek so it can find its feet and develop into something solid like TNG and DS9 eventually did.
Every good trek had rough as fuck early seasons, so cutting it down to like 3 seasons per series, with even fewer episodes, guarantees that it'll never achieve anything cool beyond some okay fan service imo.
But honestly compared the utter soulessness of the Abrams movie shit even New Trek is a step up so I'm not that mad.
>>212445645continues was not good enough. renegades was good enough
>>212445669>continues was not good enough.Too referential?
>>212445663Would it work having zero memberberries?
>>212445633>episodic so you didn't need to watch an entire season to pick it up,Almost all of the good parts of DS9 weren't episodic and required watching a decent amount to pick it up. I can only think of a handful of episodes that were one offs that I'd reccomend watching out of context. Also since when do oldheads like Voyager?
Other than that I agree with you though.
>>212445663What about the lack of stakes? if a main character cannot die any time, knowing everyone is safe won't cut for today standards?
>>212445692>Would it work having zero memberberries?Maybe, but that seems kind of paradoxical for a franchise that at this point is built on lore and legacy.
>>212445692continues acting and overall production quality is subpar. give them a real budget and cast and it would be fine.
>>212445760what about stages and plot alone?
they were memberberry have as well
>>212445757Wouldn't it be counterproductive if any writer would have to check 700 prior episodes to develop and idea that is not againt the rules of the universe by precendece?
>>212445747I don't know where you're getting that from, but maybe that would help.
Old trek never really had that though, Tasha Yar was the most major TNG character to die outside the movies iirc, and DS9 was the war show and even that only had one major character die that I can remember(Jadzea).
Although Worf killing Gowron was pretty cool.
>>212445798i didnt give it much attention because I didnt like the presentation. but i dont care if they reference the old shows heavily or not so long as its part of the plot
>>212445917Tasha exit was on her part.
Otherwise she would be in all episodes.
what if a true episodic series that each week is a different ship (of the same class) with different crew, so we would see different types of command and leadership.
>>212441326>Red Alert!>Photon torpedoes armed, Captain.>Target that vessel.>Target acquired. >Stand down red alert. Excellent drill everyone. Well done.>I. WANT. TO. BLOW. SOMETHING. UP!
>>212445995Not if every episode fucking has references
>>212445867There's a lot of space inbetween rigidly adhering to a setting bible and just completely ignoring all established lore.
That said in a setting like this the former is preferred, that's kind of the point of a franchise like Trek.
It is restricting but without that it's missing the point, if their ideas don't work within it then just go make another sci-fi series without as much legacy lore restriction. That's how we get cool shit like Babylon 5, and I'd rather have more of that than something that's half-assedly pretending to be Star Trek.
>>212446005That could work, but it'd be insanely hit or miss with a new cast every episode. It'd probably start narrowing down the number of ships it focused on after the first season, basically treating each episode of the first as a pilot to see which crews worked and which didn't.
>>212446005Doing an anthology season about other captains could really be good. Star Trek: Ships of the Line, following everything from the flagship to small tender boats.
>>212446100what if the same ship, but each episode is out of timeline order, like episode one is 2357, episode two is 2361, the crew would be sightly different and could build theories of how so-and-so died or left
>>212446140So basically This Is Us trek edition. Could work. I wouldn't love it, but it could work.
>>212446192in my youth, TOS episodes were show in random order, so it was normal to me to see Chekhov pop in and out
>>212446017It's funny seeing Sisko let Worf do agressive shit on DS9, to the point that even Worf gets freaked out by it.
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>>212445475>imagine being poor and having to resort to petty theft as a criminalperhaps if you had some ethics and respected property you'd have some
Would you really-really be able to watch and enjoy a brand new space ship series without comparing every single point to trek?
>>212446306Intellectual property is for Ferengi ne'er-do-wells, not federation goodboys.
>>212446359if you library have it
>>212446313Yes, as long as it didn't call itself Star Trek.
And even if I did start comparing them, that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy the new one just because I acknowledge the differences.
>>212446387What came close to satisfy you?
>>212446306its all on pluto for free. theres also H&I
>>212446034you have to draw the line somewhere. they use the warpcore almost every episode
>>212446404Babylon 5, parts of the Orville, Farscape was cool.
Nothing recently though.
>>212446005unless you can get dick wolf to do it you arent getting more than 6 eps a year.
>>212446640thats not trekpu. thats a random fat apu
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what are star trek explorer publications?
>>212446427Thanks H&I still, what's the lineup for today
>>212446835the blueprints for this place
I've finally matured to the point where I realize that Avery Brooks was actually the best actor of all the Trek captains, not the worst. Were it not for Shimmerman and Alaimo he'd probably be the best on DS9.
>>212446865i only watch pluto but here you go
>>212446957why do time slots appeal to you?
>>212446242Sicko was pissed at fighting all the time. So he would sometimes freak out defending DS9 and Bajor and the wormhole and shit. He needed his senior officers to restrain his orders sometimes. Sisko's my favorite captain.
>>212446876shatner is the best and its not even close
brooks is underrated though, about even with mulgrew in my opinion. little worse than stewart, a lot better than bakula
>>212446972i like the commercials. star trek is written for commercials.
>>212446957>kino>kino>meh>meh>kino>I AM IMMORTAL, I HAVE INSIDE ME BLOOD OF KINGS, I HAVE NO RIVAL, NO MAN CAN BE MY EQUAAAAAALLLL
i feel so weary of how this show drags the Vulcan race through the mud for the sake of cheap drama. i hate this entire war arc. Soval (and most of them actually) is such a fucking bastard. when I was watching this episode I just kept trying to imagine Sarek in his place and I couldn't do it. I actually found myself agreeing with blue K'ehleyr. trying to make peace with these cunts IS weak and foolish. it's all so tiresome.
>>212447128>trying to imagine Sarek in his placeSarek would have tried to fuck the orangutan.
>>212447128first time watching ENT?
i agree it was a poor choice but they mostly fix it by the end.
>velmafag is still malding
>>212447289ENT was fun. I enjoyed most of it. It's been almost enough years for me to forget most of the show. That means it's almost time for a rewatch.
>>212447346>ENT was funbeing a prequel and shitting the canon always bugged me out
>>212447346I'm watching it for the first time now and it's so fucking boring. It just comes across as a more boring TOS with a weird time travel plot that just fucks up a lot of the canon.
>>212447289yeah its my first time. overall I enjoy it but yeah episodes like this one just leave a bad taste in my mouth. curious to see how it ends. i guess it doesn't really matter because you can always just say however shitty they were at this time, Vulcans mellowed out over the next 100 years or whatever. still it seems farfetched when you have them treating people who can mind meld as 2nd class citizens and then later it's just another thing Spock can do and no one cares. like I said, it's cheap drama.
time travels spoils star trek
>>212447368>>212447458You kinda gotta accept that it all happened so far in the past, that it dosen't fit into the normal trek universe. You see little flashes of what the Federation will become in the future, but in this show, it's like the Old West.
>>212447128its mostly voyagers fault for how they developed tuvok but it really started with sarek being an emotional little bitch in search for spock. i prefered when vulcans did not experience emotion and could not lie but I guess thats too hard to write
>>212447563>it all happened so far in the past, that it dosen't fit into the normal trek universeit doesn't fit because the people who boldly went where no man had gone before were the previous generation of space travelers who spent months getting anywhere in zero-g, making the ncx or whatever crew look like a bunch of fucking pansies, which they are constantly shown to be as well.
>>212447630calling the NX01 Enterprise was also a mistake
>>212446957I remember seeing clips of people making fun of how hokey & cheesy TOS was about 20 years ago & they used clips of Devil in the Dark, which doesn't even look that bad honestly.
The same people who complain about how camp the acting is & the effects are old are the same ones that eat CGI slop nonstop all the time. They don't want any substance whatsoever.
>>212447487they address that near the end. doesnt justify everything they did but it is coherent.
>>212447786the one thing i dont like about pluto is they only show CGI TOS. a waste of material.
>>212447703What should it be called? Columbia?
>>212447856geezers cannot ever be satisfied
>>212447786>The same people who complain about how camp the acting is & the effects are old are the same ones that eat CGI slop nonstop all the time. They don't want any substance whatsoever.Now they get to live through AI slop nonstop! These people truly are eating!
>>212447630Space-fairing was a difficult and dangerous prospect. I can forgive the characters for being dumb sometimes, or freaking out. It was a long road... Getting from Earth to the frontiers of the galaxy. It took a long time... But there time was finally before them. They had a lot of faith.
>>212447968>love a series about evolution of tech>hates evolution of tech IRLgeezers are the perfect definition of hypocrisy
>>212447862Millennium Falcon.
>>212447703It's also dumb how it looks like any Federation vessel. you mean to tell me after barely discovering warp travel, the other races in the Federation adopted our technology?
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>>212447856I balked & passed on TOS complete Bluray set at like $40 a few months ago & it's got both versions on it. I'll never see it that low again.
I don't mind the CGI updates that much but if I ever were to rewatch it again to completion, I'd like to watch the original cut. See what actually made it a phenomenon.
>>212447975>Space-fairing was a difficult and dangerous prospect.before enterprise started. in enterprise they're basically cruising around in a luxury yacht and acting like its difficult and dangerous
>>212448017Well, that comes to the discussion that Starfleet (was humans ships only) and Federation ships were more generic, because every other species have their own design, but some people that they are starfleet ships with no humans on it
>>212448006I actually don't hate AI, it has many uses but using it to replace CGI is just peak lazy. Generally I want cool new tech evolution but you don't actually care about that you would rather be a disingenuous faggot.
>>212448068TOS (at least) tried to be more Submarine like
NX01 should have being 4x more claustrophobic
>>212448074Vulcan ships use a ring vs nacelles
>>212448091the visuals don't matter if they are only to serve a good plot, that mostly they dont
>>212448006When I sit down at the computer & start clacking away at actual code or jailbreak something just because I found it, I feel enhanced. I'm smarter due to the computer, not because of it. A 50-50 partnership instead of just a few command lines to get generic nothing while you learn nothing in the process.
Fuck AI, I'll work together with the computer.
>>212448125but there are no RING SHIP that is starfleet, they are vulcan
>>212448142don't be attached faggot
move on to the next level
>>212448068don't forget the time travelers making sure they don't blow themselves up
>>212448132Sure and I agree, AI just facilitates the creation of more crap. I'm not going to shit on a show if I found it really good just because it used AI here and there. Anything that makes things easier is generally used more often to make more crap. Software got easier to program and now it's all generally crappier for it.
>>212448208>just facilitates the creation of more crapthis applies to literally every a/v technology.
>>212448208everyone is crying for the return of 26 episodes by season series, now if they use AI for it
you can't have it all
>>212448068>Limited to warp 5>Crude replicators that make chicken sandwiches >Experimental transporters>Only defense is polarized hull platingThat ain't no luxury yacht.
>>212448300>everyone is crying for the return of 26 episodes by season series,No, I don't want this. Writers cannot be trusted anymore. Nearly every writer in pedowood needs to be publicly hung.
oh also what is this absolute bullshit about how the NX01 crew had an actual Suliban ship with a cloak they were just hauling around and actually fixed and used on occasion but somehow the Federation didn't have/use cloaking technology until 100s of years later?
>>212448325compared to
>warp 2>zero g>the only food is what you bringit is a luxury yacht
>>212448360the federation gave up cloaking technology in an early treaty with the klingons.
>>212448074>Well, that comes to the discussion that Starfleet (was humans ships only) and Federation ships were more generic, because every other species have their own design, but some people that they are starfleet ships with no humans on itI cannot tell what the fuck you're trying to say anon
>>212448509There are vulcan ships, and they are part of the federation, but their ships is not starfleet.
But there are no HUMAN ships.
All human ships with mostly human crew are considered STARFLEET ships.
There are records of starfleet ships that are identifcal to the ones human use that have not a single human staff.
so, for probably bad writing and planning only, Earth is the only planet, not to have their own design of ship, that is not shared by fleet.
>>212439802 (OP)John Luck Pickerd?
>tfw no big brain big tiddy starfleet captain
>>212448422actually it was the treaty of algeron where the filthy knife-eared romulans were allowed to keep theirs but the federation couldn't
>>212448708That's not a retcon, they address that in earlier series. Although I'm pretty sure it was Romulans not Klingons.
>>212448866but having it on ENT was a poopy retcon
>>212448383I understand your argument. You're right that previous expeditions had it a shit ton more challenging. The NX01 crew was still venturing very far away from Earth, and encountering strange and new stuff. That's the name of the game in trek.
poopy stuff that should never been on ENT:
borg
transporter
ferengi
holodeck
new races
>>212448966with 10% less resources than TOS, no!
they should struggle much more.
as much as VOY should have struggled more with both being away from home and have Maqis, but no, it is discount TNG
>>212449007what's wrong with new races
TOS had a ton of one-offs you never see again, what makes ENT different
>>212449007i kinda like that they have a transporter that everyone is terrified to actually use. there are so many times where the episode wouldn't have happened if they just transported someone out but it's not even brought up as an option lol
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>>212448360who the fuck are the suliban?
>>212449075for a prequel ENT could never find something more technologically advanced than TOS and then become forgotten, using same argument for (sic) STD.
For inspiration alone, humans knowing about holodeck (from a random race) would start digging to make their own.
be Spock
never heard about Suliban
never heard about Xindi
>>212445633>TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY.When does Voyager get good? So far it's ok to have in the background, but I keep thinking "damn should I put DS9 on again?"
>>212449046VOY is kinda hit or miss. The ENT crew had a tough time, but it's not supposed to be completely realistic. ENT was a romanticized view of what happened to the NX01. I'm sure if it all really happened, living that mission would have more desperate, less glamorous, hotter, more cramped, and fear inducing.
>>212449143>TalibanThe Taliban, which also refers to itself by its state name, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan,
how did the writers knew about this
if the 1st episode aired 15 days after 9/11?
>>212449007Don't disagree in the slightest
>>212449007>ferengiidk if they show up again but the first episode with them is such anachronistic whiplash. it seriously is just a ds9 episode transplanted into a different show.
>>212449293archer killed them all when he killed vosk. they never existed in the prime timeline.
you dont have to like ent but it left few holes.
>>212449399cool headcanon bro
>>212449291>When does Voyager get good?Pic related is the exact moment it gets good (season 4).
>>212449437fuck off geezer coomer
>>212449293>how did the writers knew about this>if the 1st episode aired 15 days after 9/11The Taliban were notorious prior to 9/11, notably for destroying the Bamiyan Buddhas. In addition, they also worked together with the Bush administration to stem the flow of opium.
The episode "Civilization" was being filmed on September 11, 2001
>>212449007This.
>>212449110 Having the transporter in enterprise allows the writers to play with the idea that people would be scared to use it in real life. By Kirkโs time the transporter is common place technology they were born with so they donโt even bat an eye well using it.
>>212450217okayish if the teleporter was introduced as the solution for season 2 finale
on first episode is cheap
>>212449512Heโs right though, not just because of the t&a but because they settled into a comfy place where we didnโt have to watch Neelix and his four year old girlfriend in conflict. For a little while anyway
>>212450404Thatโs fair, but you could say many things about enterprise being cheap. A Klingon in the first episode? Come on. It runs into the traps of a prequel far too easily. I personally rank it higher than VOY, but I can understand why others donโt.
>>212450541klingons are very close to earth. makes perfect sense they would run into them early. its actually more of a big picture problem, klingons would have been harrassing earth well before first contact.
Voyager is so fucking good itโs unreal
>>212450798>said no one evervoy is the SG1 of trek
bland timepass
>>212450846Cope and seethe nushitter
>>212450798Yeah no man sorry. Iโd watch it before Iโd watch nuTrek and big booba 7 is good, but itโs not one I go back to a lot. Mr. Dung Butt Ass Wart Stew Neelix is a big turn off for me.
>>212450798i've never watched it. how do they stretch "we don't have enough fuel to get home" into 7 seasons of dicking around the universe lol
>>212451237>how do they stretchthey don't
it becomes litteral joke and they frollic around
VOY is the peak of geezer hypocrisy
VOY is literally analog slop
the scripts are general-hospital tier
but somehow for nostalgia/coomer/aesthetic reasons they still like it
>>212451489>the scripts are general-hospital tierHow many episodes of General Hospital have you seen, anon?
>>212450965>>212450986Good call out, anon. Roasted that Nu Trek piggie good.
>>212451510Honestly, Iโve watched roughly 350 episodes of General Hospital, mostly the standout arcs rather than the every-day episodes. I was especially hooked on the 1996 storyline: Sonny Corinthosโs explosive introduction and rise in the mob world; Stone Catesโs HIV diagnosis, his deep bond with Robin Scorpio, and his tragic death; Robinโs courageous fight to cope with that loss; and the shocking reveal of Tony Jonesโs paternity secret. Those twists in 1996 were so gripping that they pulled me into watching past and future seasons to see how Port Charles would never be the same.
>>212451613The 1996 season of General Hospital was a frustrating low point for longtime fans, primarily due to convoluted storylines and poorly handled character arcs that felt like a betrayal to the show's legacy. One of the most glaring issues was the complete derailment of Laura Spencerโs character, who, after years of being a strong, complex heroine, was reduced to a meandering, indecisive figure in the tepid love triangle with Stefan Cassadine and her long-absent husband, Luke. Instead of capitalizing on the Cassadine-Spencer rivalry with real emotional stakes, the writers leaned into gothic melodramaโintroducing Wyndemere, secret tunnels, and Nikolas Cassadine as a moody teen brooding over half-baked daddy issues. Meanwhile, Sonny Corinthosโ storyline became increasingly bloated and self-indulgent, drowning in mob clichรฉs and unearned gravitas, while Jason Morganโs post-accident transformation into "Stone Cold" was rushed and borderline cartoonish, stripping the Quartermaine family of its core dynamics without meaningful payoff. Even beloved characters like Monica and Alan were stuck in repetitive loops of addiction, cheating, and scandal that no longer shockedโjust exhausted. Overall, 1996 was a year where the show lost touch with its emotional roots, opting for style over substance and leaving many fans disillusioned.
>>212451675Di 1996 General Hospital palava chook Voyager later seasons for eye reach almost every side. Fust, GH marry blockbuster soap-opera twists wit real-life gbege: Sonny Corinthos violent come-up for Port Charles make you fear true true, Stone Cates HIV diagnosis carry real-world tori inside and give im belle full urgency for Robin Scorpio romance, and Tony Jones paternity secret scatter ground from corner to corner.
But Voyager afta Season 4 don turn into โmonster-of-the-weekโ kin routine: dem dey repeat space-of-the-week plots, holodeck capers too formulaic and character focus dey waka come waka go so stakes no get meaning. Emotional investment no ever reach GH 1996 slow-burn fireโno real loss, no chain-reactions or real-world gbesa to match Stone funeral or Sonny turf war. For short, GH โ96 era na serialized emotional rollercoaster; Voyager later seasons na pleasant but you fit forget layover for di Delta Quadrant.
>>212451727kek I think your AI broke anon
>>212451675>โM DASH detected
>>212451759Yes, anon. I replied to a chatGPT post with chatGPT to call it out as being from chatGPT.
You were almost aware of what was happening but not quite.
>>212451751>>212451806everything is AI to geezers
>>212451319I would be able to forgive some, not all of this, if the show wasnโt so hit or miss. The stories are weak, the characters are bland and the ensemble cast has little to no chemistry with one another. Itโs a lot wasted potential.
>>212451909it also goes how classic fans flip flop for arcs.
they say it is good for the dominion war
but thety VOY arcs about austerity/scarcity would never work
>>212450798It's definitely grown on me over the years and is very rewatchable.
>>212452041>grown on me overSUNK COST DETECTED
>>212452063Maybe if I didn't like it from the beginning. I just like it more now.
TOS > TNG = DS9 > VOY >>> ENT > nothing else exists
>>212452084take the canon stick out of your arse and try LODE
>>212452138lower drecks sucks
>>212452153if you are gay, yes
>>212452204lezzie dykes's biggest spokesman is a literal tranny
>>212452227the one who has stick inside arse is you
>>212452255you have serious mental problems
>>212452255explain and justify this
>>212449437but that's in season 3
>>212452138I like LODE as a dumb cartoon, but it's dogshit as an actual Star Trek. It's just them capitalizing on the Harley Quinn/Deadpool hype with a non-capeshit IP. Despite trying to be quirky and relatable the characters all feel less real than even the autistic shakesperean characters in most Trek episodes.
>>212452138>>212452310>I like dumb cartoons and various other terrible shit do you think you could fuck off and talk about your cape shit and shitty cartoons elsewhere? wtf is this shit?
>>212452138I did try it. I didn't like it but I'm not a fan of Rick and Morty style humor and honestly I was kind of offended by its existence.
It'd be one thing to make a parody show if your mainline shows were decent but they need to make a decent Trek before they start doing lol so randumb spinoffs.
>>212452449can you take your shitty tripfaggotry and take the nu-trek tranny and FUCK OFF
>>212452501Sure, goodbye.
>>212452449wej Duj
and
First First Contact
were alone better trek than ENT
>>212452518cool, fuck off
>>212452429>>212452501Dawg you gotta calm down, half the people you're sperging at are agreeing with you.
>>212452501>>212452539don't attack the guy open to try
you geezer cunt
>>212452552>tripfag>nutrek faggotyou sure about...dawg? you fucking faggot
>>212452560open to try what? what are you talking about? open to try nutrek shit?
>>212452518i wish you could stay
>>212452593You're literally just derailing this thread into shitposting because you got triggered by nu-trek shit. Calm down nigga.
>>212452635yes, go gatekeep your bellow average soap opera out of here, faggot
LODE > VOY
cope and seethe
>>212452637yes, it is proven how geezer attitude should be combated
>>212452637I was never going to leave. I just thought I'd help that guy have a mental breakdown by telling him I was and then continuing to post normally.
>>212452308Star Trek 4 is NOT the one with the whales.
>>212452674kill yourself you fucking tranny stop pretending you are anything but a tranny trying to pretend your shit is relevant to Star Trek. "hurr durr but maybe we can all get along if you like my tranny cartoon" fuck off and stop pretending we don't need any nu trek no one wants it no one needs it. Fuck off pretending you sick faggot.
>>212452449I'm offended by its very existence because it was the result of CBS literally saying "we want the Rick & Morty audience to try and boost our shitty streaming service" and they sought out the man responsible for the Pickle Rick episode among others.
>>212452782do you need a safe space gramps?
>>212452822adult men should be not be offended by fiction
you are acting like a literal troon
I only watch star trek episodes generated by third worlders that use AI
Rick & Morty is so bad. I love having taste. It's a rare treat, like intelligence.
>>212452872>says that acting exact like R&M fansTo be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation -
>PAthetic
>>212452782I'm not the one saying LODE is good dawg. I'm beginning to suspect you're just farming (you)s.
Then again, given the way you type you might just be an underaged dipshit.
>>212452710do you see how mentally unstable you are? you are literally defending a shitty disgusting cartoon and calling it "gatekeeping" when you are told what a piece of shit it is. I wish there was some actual gatekeeping, because goddamn trek needs it. The fact that your disgusting tranny shit has been allowed to be spammed this long is a travesty. Holy shit its a disgrace you are the slimy evil muck that killed tasha you are literally the slime that was named Evil filth.
>>212452824do you mean do you need one? because it sure isn't /trek/ and never will be you evil piece of shit.
>>212452926LODE goes stretches of cringe, but they are the best recent trek, even better than VOY, but trying new stuff is an alien concept for people that like the concept of exploring the stars
>>212452872It's pretty meh. The first season was genuinely funny but got promoted and hyped way too hard to help prop up Adult Swim. And then every season after that it got a little less funny and Harmon rubbed a little more of his weird psued stink on it until it became the weird shit it is now. It's not even good background noise like Family Guy.
>>212452926Hey buddy I don't want a single (you) I want you to fuck of forever, see really simple never ever post in /trek/ again """Dawg""" you cringy nu-trek faggot
>>212453011Gene would despise you
Friendly reminder that William Shatner himself has acted in a LOT of bad shit but even he drew the line at Lower Decks.
>>212452960you aren't fooling anyone, the really hilarious thing is you can't find a place to talk about your awful shit because their isn't one, you have to invade the places where we are because no-one else will tolerate you, you have to come to places where actual trek is discussed and spam your shit.
>>212453067The funny thing is that CalArts is so dogshit that I can't even tell if this is AI generated or official art.
>>212453086yes, and you can't do nothing but seethe.
what is your favorite SNW episode?
>>212453067? did you think your shitty AI crap means something?
>>212453096>>212453114it is a TNG geezer seething
while base Jennifer laughs
>>212453023no I don't think so, as you know nothing about star trek I guess you wouldn't know but really no he wouldn't, he'd sure be disgusted by you though
>>212453007>It's not even good background noise like Family Guy.I disagree, I like Rick and Morty up until they fired whats his fag face. It's a low brain power show that I chuckle at every once in a while. Now in saying this, I do despise lower decks and did genuinely try to watch it. It's neither funny, fun, or entertaining even for a show made for actual morons with basic literacy issues. American Dad is clearly the best stupid people show, though.
>>212453145he literally is on the record wanting to have trannies on screen
>>212453109no I can call you out as a pathetic piece of shit, see I'm doing it right now, also laugh my ass off that your entire nu-trek run of shit is cancelled, thats also something I can do. Lmao what are you talking about?
>>212453136who is jennifer? are you still working under the delusion that anyone cares about your nu-trek shit? Thats honestly funny as fuck
I want to fuck this robot
>>212453233coomers are not welcome
now you can fuck off
>>212453176lol you really are reaching aren't you? your horrific nu-trek shit is done, do you understand that? its done its over all of it, do you grasp that yet? you fucking idiot.
>>212453233So say we all, don't listen to nu-trek trannies they are mentally ill
>>212453277Oh, I know. I wrote the book on Nu Trek trannies, my friend. A good 40% of their seething is caused specifically by my existence which is why I put the trip back on.
>>212453250Roddenberry: In the early 1960s, I was much more a macho-type person. I was still accepting things from my childhood as necessary and part of reality โ how men related to women, et cetera. My assistant, Susan Sackett, used to say to me, โYou really put down women a lot for someone who is supposed to be thoughtful and liberal.โ I began listening to her and agreeing that she was right in her perceptions.
My attitude toward homosexuality has changed. I came to the conclusion that I was wrong. I was never someone who hunted down โfagsโ as we used to call them on the street. I would, sometimes, say something anti-homosexual off the top of my head because it was thought, in those days, to be funny. I never really deeply believed those comments, but I gave the impression of being thoughtless in these areas. I have, over many years, changed my attitude about gay men and women.
>>212453336>My attitude toward homosexuality has changed.If he saw what they were doing today he would have changed his mind again.
>>212453336seethe more retard
>>212453317 post more TOS babes
>>212453385from the guy spread pussy rot because he was banging darkies
he would be a woman himself if he reached the year 2000
>>212446957Cogenitor makes redditors seethe so much, it's hilarious.
>>212453336>I have, over many years, changed my attitude about gay men and women.that happened with most everyone with the "we're just normal people who want to be in the privacy of our own homes" line, and then kids/infants and dogs start contracting diseases spread exclusively by homosexual men and they cancel gay pride events because children can't attend.
Long before TNG, Roddenberry privately conceived of three genders living side-by-side on the Enterprise, reflecting his belief that humanityโs future should transcend rigid binaries. He โoriginally wanted to have three genders aboard the Enterprise
>>212453533you fags really are delusional aren't you?
>>212453683it is a direct quote from the guy that wrote trek
if you don't like give the show up
are the geezers the snyderbros of trek?
>>212453712lol you just can't help being degenerate filth can you?
>>212453755I'm literally Gene
you are in denial
>>212452138Nta but I actually really wanted to like LD and while I don't hate it, I don't think it was as good as I wanted it to be either.
>>212453815that is the spirit!
are these nu-trek faggots really capeshitters? that makes so much sense lmao, it really does make sense.
>>212453809lmao you are a capeshit faggot that is genuinely hilarious
>>212453866I only watch LODE on TV now on repeat because is soulful and up beat
the rest of the time I read literary fiction books
>>212451613more of a guiding light man myself
>>212453907lol you are a literal capeshit faggot, the only surprising thing is it wasn't figured out sooner, that is so hilarious, you are a zoomy capeshitting faggot, it makes total sense now.
>>212453866>are these nu-trek faggots really capeshitters?Have you seen their English skills? I think they would enjoy just about anything in English due to their extreme lack of understanding of the language. Westaboo losers.
>>212453990>>212453974do you hate them but they act exactly like you
ironic
>>212453990I just never made the connection it makes perfect sense now, the terrible grammar, the lack of coherence all of it, the nu-trek spammer is a capeshitter.
geezer trek = snyder
nutrek = based gunn
>>212454037>do you hate them but they act exactly like youAre you asking a question?
So what'd you guys do on the 4th?
>>212453336>I have, over many years, changed my attitude about gay men and women.the response to this QUOTE FROM GENE RODDENBERRY is how that happened with most everyone in the 80s with the "we're just normal people who want to be in the privacy of our own homes" line, and then kids/infants and dogs start contracting diseases spread exclusively by homosexual men and they cancel gay pride events because children can't attend.
>get btfo>run to mods
>>212454069geezer doesn't understand "capeshit" originated in great bharat
hanuman was the original superman
the juggernaut is sanskrit jaganath
geezer trek is just capes hit without capes except for garth of izar
>>212454693Got drunk, grilled up some steaks, watched undiscovered country.
>>212454693I got called into work because the new hire quit after three weeks. More hours=bigger paychecks=more money for my hyperfixations.
>>212454001Okay, which psychic mutant got to possess Data?
>>212454693I celebrated not being born a filthy colonial
>>212454937work life balance, friend
>>212455133Based cigar chomping American
>>212455133>I celebrated not being born a filthy colonialUnless you were born in one of these countries, you were in fact born under colonizers.
>>212455133i celebrated cold beer not room temperature swill
>>212449007Time travel and the time war
Is Sisco really religious with the prophets or just pretending? I think he is atheist.
>>212455596i mean. they are actual aliens. there's no religious belief necessary.
>>212455636>bombs your school
>>212455684Trekpu is good at heart, he's been misled.
>>212455684god i love her
>>212455636In fact, you can't help but have schizoid delusions, and war crimes and abandoned pregnant wives , because it was all determined twenty billion years ago!
>>212455684Do you guys think he got all up in there?
>>212455957no we don't think, we know. we all saw it.
/trek/ is not about
Being right at the cost of a good time
correct thread foramtting
Pointing out canon inconsitencies
hating new trek
tripfags
paranoia
fear
>>212455997You misspelled "formatting" and "inconsistencies."
>>212455981If you have a tape of gul dukat plowing Kai Winn then please share. Because otherwise I havenโt seen shit.
>>212455997If somebody's being a fag, just ignore them. Or call them a fag and then ignore them. It's for the best in the grand scheme of things. Unless it's one of those... if it's one of THOSE, you've got to do what you've got to do.
>>212456081i mean i have the tape of Kai Winn saying they did
>>212456081https://youtu.be/JNjwU0zlrhY?feature=shared
>>212455997yeah, its about pretending star trek was always woke and then crying to mods when you get utterly blown the fuck out with proof from multiple decades.
>>212447128by the way it was neat how this guy was named Telev which of course was the name of the Orion spy. i don't assume it's implying he's the "real" one, it's probably just a reference. also I think Weytan is supposed to be some kind of portmanteau of Weyoun and Keevan since both their actors were in this episode. it's really stupid but whatever.
We're those cardassian freighters really carrying medical supplies?
>>212456785medical supplies, war orphans, ive heard it all. at the end of the day the only good spoonhead is a dead spoonhead
say what you will about ENT. at least they resisted the temptation to soil sarek
>>212456956That came later.
>>212456956he would have been like, a fetus in ENT
*snowball exits holodeck*
I like the Paris/Kim broship.
>>212457921What's your /trek/ backstory?
>>212457988Just a city boy, born and raised in South Detroit. I took the midnight train going anywhere.
>>212457921they are bros irl too and did a podcast about their time on voy. i recommend it.
>>212454693Quarantined in quarters with a virus
Just watched Frame of Mind for the first time, I liked it. Much more interesting than the last few episodes.
>>212458026That's an Alvin and the chipmunks song. You THIEF.
>>212457211thats kind of my point. they could have pulled him in with some time travel nonsense or had him lie about his age for some gay reason but they properly left him out of it.
>>212457988Grognard meets retard. Grogtard.
>>212458878>grognardI don't mind playing 5e though, so that's not possible. Anyway, hey VF! How's the toy shit coming along?
>>212458970>I don't mind playing 5e thoughthat's the 'tard' part.
>>212459856Gotta play what your friends play if you want to play at all.
>>212455854its funny that they created the perfect villain with her and then tried to smear dukat's name through her.
>>212459933I make them play Palladium. If they refuse, they get the hose again. You should consider obedience training your friends.
>>212460246I've got a couple of groups I play with. One's as normie as it gets and it's 5e or bust.
The other, we've played all sorts of shit. I've played Traveller, Rifts, a few other weird things.
>getting comfy
>turn on pluto
>ENT ep 1 part 1
>>212459993them having some kind of arc together could have been so kino. they are the same type of person, really. with the power of their combined megalomaniacal delulu energy they could have been truly great. imagine Dukat putting aside his hatred of Bajorans to team up with the one bitch as crazy as he is. but as himself and not a pah wraith worshipping retard.
>>212460352>enterprise>comfy
>>212459933>>212460348You can tell this guy actually plays ttrpg irl because the truth is that you have to compromise if you want groups
>>212445645Star Trek: New Voyages was definitely not. It was le gay. Literally. This video was sped up 20x so you don't need to deal with le gay so much.
>>212446005Wasn't Denise Crosby being sexually harassed by the executives?
pepe
md5: c4fa89a91ddc9f8bbfab6fa0a6e7db76
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>>212448772>big titty grandma
>>212453071Friendly reminder that Shatner has most likely gone senile.
>>212463922She was like 40 you child. She had children.
>>212465949She had a grandma voice and grandma vibes. I literally stopped watching Voyager in the middle of the "Resistance" episode when Janeway tried to pass herself off as a prostitute. I was sickened & never went back.
>>212453533He also envisioned the fergengi where obsessed with sex and went into vivid detail describing their genetalia
>>212466647Did he deliberately make them space Jews? I remember watching the first broadcast of that ST:TNG episode and being flummoxed that the Ferengi were such an obvious anti-Jewish stereotype.
>>212467122>Gene Roddenberry's original idea for the Ferengi involved creating a species that embodied the negative aspects of capitalism, reflecting the economic climate of the 1980s. He envisioned them as a new kind of villain for Star Trek, contrasting with the Federation's post-scarcity mindset. Roddenberry wanted the Ferengi to be greedy, unscrupulous, and obsessed with profit, which he believed would make them a compelling antagonist.>One of the more unusual aspects of Roddenberry's original concept was his desire to give the Ferengi a "sex fetish," including the idea of making the species well-endowed, with a focus on exaggerated physical features. He spent 25 minutes explaining to Herbert Wright, one of the writers, all the sexual positions the Ferengi could go through. Wright, however, objected, noting that it was a family show airing at 7 on Saturdays.
>>212466256You're a homosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that pfft
>>212467319I'm just not into grandmas with grating, nasally grandma voices.
>>212467847Yeah you're into men
>>212467940no i'm into curvy green women