Thread 212443737

>gets on a show called 1 Christian vs 20 Atheists
>refuses to answer if he's Christian or not

Because that's half his grift. Partially shill to the religious crowd but also leaving room to try to grift more right leaning atheists. He wants to have his cake and eat it too.

>>212443737 (OP)
most "christians" of the current wave are "believers" but simply reactionary conservatives who acknowledge that its a necessary core of their political value system, even if they dont give two shits about it

>>212443816
that's just neoconservatism

>>212443737 (OP)
what do you mean by answer?

>>212443737 (OP)
thumbnail always makes me think of Seinfeld

>>212443828
No, neoconservatism is a foreign policy philosophy that US military interventionism is fundamentally good and should be heavily used to support US interests abroad, open markets for free trade and spread/"defend" democracy. This can sometimes be associated with theological justifications to fit in with the broader right-wing coalition but not strictly necessary. Please try to use words correctly.

>agrees to a hotly anticipated debate on Marxism
>doesn't read any Marx at all before the debate
>doesn't know who Hegel is
>haha well this debate was certainly illuminating let's just agree to disagree and agree we all had a good time ahaha please purchase my book and donate to my gofundme

>>212443737 (OP)
>Jordan, what is your opinion on young men not wanting to die for Israel?
>

>>212443992
You don't need to study Marxism to know it is wrong - it's a universal truth.

Dave Rubin should be folded into these discussions as a champion hanger-on for a decade with Peterson. Grift kings

>>212443737 (OP)
He only cares about the perceived authority and respect that comes with being a Christian

>>212444101
>le marxism is le bad
>falls flat on his fucking face and makes it look good in comparison because hes so ignorant he doesnt appear to know shit about it
It is bad. Would sure help if he had reasons why that were built on solid foundations and not references to Jung or "marxism bad cuz woke".

>>212443737 (OP)
Just like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk, his “conservatism” was just to draw in a large young conservative fan base and once he has then locked in, go in full Israel brainwashing mode

You don’t need to believe your religion to be religious lol
Danny is a retard and he deserves to be molested

>>212443737 (OP)
Peterson has never been a good arguer. He's more of a diplomat that likes to play with the big picture of things and that's what he should stick to, his profession as a psychologist.

>>212444101
>>212444145
Why is it bad?

television & film?

>>212443737 (OP)
>trolls a room of annoying atheists on the gay debate-me-bro show
yeah I'm thinkin based

>>212444167
Being a religious hypocrite is like the biggest thing Jesus had issues with

>>212444167
>You don’t need to believe your religion to be religious lol
The absolute state.

>>212444179
this is a film and tv board, sweetie

>>212444179
It's bad because it's against billionaires and private pedophile islands.

>>212444212
Yeah I'm thinking you're really quite nothing

>>212444272
All you guys do it cry about the effects of capitalism on film and television thoughbeit.

>>212444145
>and makes it look good in comparison
Because some college retards said it is? They always make it look good to retards with no understand of economics or humanity. Anyone with a brain can see it is bad.
>"marxism bad cuz woke".
Wokeism is Marxism. Saying Marxism is bad because it is Marxism is, again, a universal truth.

>>212444258
I check Muslim on everything so if anything goes wrong I get insane preferential treatment while retaining white privilege and the ability to talk mad shit. Might also become sikh to get the cool dagger too.

>>212444309
Marxism has been around for hundreds of years, calling it "woke" to critique it is just circular logic. That says nothing about what you're critiquing, most likely because you've never read up on it and just download your opinions from chudtubers.

>>212444354
>Marxism has been around for hundreds of years
I know, and wokeism is an ideological derivation of Marxism
>calling it "woke" to critique it is just circular logic.
I know, that's what I said, although it doesn't seem to track your logic, so I am not sure what your point is.
It works, however, because Marxism being bad is a universal truth, as I said earlier.

>>212444309
>still isn't able to articulate *why* Marxism is wrong
Peterson prides himself on his verbal intelligence, he should be able to elaborate on his ideological positions more than a socially isolated tween picking ideologies at whim based on aesthetics.

>>212444214
>>212444258
There’s a very old Jewish joke. Like, very old.

Two rabbis argue over the course of the night over the existence of God. Come the dawn both come to the conclusion that God does not, in fact, exist. Or his existence cannot be proven. Whatever.

The very next day those two rabbis are seen still going to the synagogue. “What does his existence have to do with it?”.

Religion is a narrative tool. It structures communities and fosters family values. It is a story to mold your life by. It is meant to be entertained, not bought.

Let me ask you. The Christian who does not believe wholly in the Bible (but still nonetheless believes that something is out there regardless—much like believing in UFOs is believing that something is out there) but helps and donates to the church as well as their own community, and makes lives better, happier. Is he more or less Christian than the Christian who goes around murdering innocents in the name of God for refusing to convert?

Yeah, you don’t need to believe in your religion. It’s actually disrespecting God if you do that, as you’re attributing human levels of hubris on to the very thing you worship. Had a Christian told God they took everything in the Bible at face value He’d likely big Facepalm. “No it’s a story. Faith doesn’t require truth and never has. It’s not meant to be true. It’s a metaphor to model yourself after!”. God would not see Himself the same way humans see Him. Are God’s miracles truly capital-m miraculous to Himself? Is a human a god to an ant?

Christ Almighty. Humans are so stupid they can’t see faith as an object to use or abuse. Priests are just another type of politician.

>>212444305
Rich people being able to buy elections and lobby politicians is bad

>>212444513
AI text to waste your time.

>>212443954
Kek

>>212444548
You’re a fucking idiot.

>>212444513
Ancient Greeks had it right from the start. God is everything, aka the universe itself. Man gives God human traits because of our ability to think. If a lion could, it would imagine God as a lion too.

>>212443816
And you base that on what? Outside the stuff you consume on the internet i mean.

>>212444568
There’s even a famous saying: “Did the Greeks actually believe in their gods?”

>Didsh the Greeksh ackshully beleev in thsher godsh?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vpHhPdYYo6U&pp=ygUqRGlkIHRoZSBncmVla3MgYmVsaWVmZSBpbiB0aGVpciBnb2RzIHppemVr

Christians are intellectual cowards

Spiritual jews

Need to widen Danny’s anal circumference

>>212444654
Christians worship a Devilish variant of God that the Jews ditched. Any God that promises an eternity of hellfire if you don’t convert is automatically a demon.

>>212443992
reminder that this debate buckbroke him. everyone keeps saying how he was never the same after he got into coma but everyone ignores that this happened right after that debate.
and I think it's only partially his fault, that judge was a complete betacuck who let zizek ramble on unrelated themes way beyond the time limit, he should've just told him to shut the fuck up.

Atheists give me one reason why I shouldn't boil you alive and eat your eyeballs
>because you should have a heckin' better adjusted primate endocrine system for socialization
That's cope and you know it, that one's off the table
>this just proves Christians are all psychos
That's just you posturing and not answering my simple question, that doesn't get your eyeballs uneaten

>>212444167
if you dont genuinely accept and believe in jesus as the son of god and the savior youre comitting one of the biggest sins ever

>>212444513
There's either a god or not. I'm not denying that mythos has a place. Sure it does. But atheists (usually) don't deny things like say Aesop's fables have no value because they are not literal events. The problem comes from when people believe these things to be real. Which is typically what religion is. If someone doesn't believe this shit is real and follows it more like a mythology that has a lifestyle they wanna live by? Fine. I'd say so at least. But that kind of negates the entire point. You can't really play it both ways.

>>212444706
See >>212444680

You are worshiping a demonic variant of God. “Kill your son or else.”.

>>212444703
youre welcome to try any time retard
then natural group preservation kicks in and everyone else just eats your eyeballs instead.
Thats how nature works, also why you dont get bitches

>>212443737 (OP)
What? Are you retarded?

>>212444724
What is a god is a matter of perspective lol.

Atheists don’t like to acknowledge that a sufficiently godlike alien being can totally be worshiped as a god or something.

Theists don’t like acknowledging that their god is just a big alien and believing in gods is a variant of believing in aliens.

God is literally just a giant alien intellect of some kind. You don’t need to worship it. It’s just a big extra dimensional being.

>>212443737 (OP)
Because public right wing "intellectuals" are all massive grifting fucking retards who don't believe a word they fucking say.
The only two that frankly are acting in any level of good faith, are Dugin and Hitchens, and Hitchens, if he didn't have an extremely oxford posh british accent, most people would see through his arguments and realize his takes are actually retarded. ("I've known many rich people and most are very polite, so how could they do evil?" literally the depth of his arguments)
Real "right wing intellectuals" aren't out there doing public shit, they are just the machevillian psychopaths who work as consultants, Economists for Blackrock and Arms manufacturers and Right wing think tanks and business lobby groups etc Any right wing public facing figure is just a fucking grifter that exists to try manufacture consenst for the actual power players behind him.
This is why honestly, I say Dugin is probably the only right wing intellectual worth shit these days, and notice that 80% of what Dugin says would be rejected by the modern right because modern Conservatism is literally nothing but an ideology built around bootlicking the most evil, antisocial oligarchs imaginable.
Conservatism was killed by Hayek, Mises, Bernays and the like who turned the entire conservative ideology into a PR trick to get normies to accept the return of the gilded age and allow psychopathic oligarchs destroy civic values and nationhood.
>t. classical conservative who actually read classical conservative thinkers like Hume, Hobbes, Burke.

>>212444765
>Hume, Hobbes, Burke.
A bunch of Sunday comic characters don't help your cause.

>>212444471
Your brain is just as benzo-fucked as your surrogate daddy. Lift some weights and read some theory before it's too late.

>Are you a Christian?
>Well, I'm a lot of things.
>Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
>Well, I believe in a lot of things.
>...
>*cries

>>212444703
It speaks volumes about you if the only thing preventing you being an sadistic murderer is fear of divine punishment

>>212444765
>I am a classic conservative and the only conservative I respect is the one who literally said all white people should be killed of being gay and jewish so an asian master race can inherit the planet
Uh-huh

>>212444765
reading books is a waste of time

>>212444703
>unless i get infinite torture after death and/or infinite rewards in heaven i see no reason not to chimp out and act like a feral crazed animal
Lol what the fuck. Are you a nigger?

>>212444755
That's what they later changed the title to.
The original said "1 Christian".

When the Japanese throw cucumber slices into a pond to ward off the Kappa it doesn’t mean they actually believe Kappa are real. They’re just repeating a ritualistic art form. It’s what people did in the past.

It’s like good luck. You don’t have to believe in luck to find the gesture nice. If anything, pure coincidence and circumstance makes it even more special.

>>212443737 (OP)
1 gorilla vs 20 atheist sounds like a better premise.

>>212444765
Heathen repert or dye

>>212444786
>>212444801
I'm actually amazed that I addressed this in my post and you couldn't resist the Pavlonian urge to just say it anyway

You're indistinguishable from a sixty year old on Facebook who posts "DAE liberals are da REAL racists" 65,000 times a day

According to Danny you’re a Christian if you celebrate Christmas, or you have to be a Christian to celebrate Christmas.

>>212444814
we would just befriend the gorilla as we see it as a relative.

>>212444834
Liberals are terrible, have you SEEN Liberia?

>>212444786
Setting aside that mischaracterization for the moment, what is preventing you being a sadistic murderer?

>>212444804
Sure they did.
Surely it's not just zoomers being illiterate retards.

>>212444793
Again, I don't even really respect Dugin, but he at least acknowledges that rampant Capitalism is completely at odds with civic conservative values, nationhood, Environment and race.
He's the only Right wing intellectual who is actually consistent without major contradictions in his ideology. Ask any other fucking modern "conservative" how in fuck free market capitalism is at all compatiable with conservative civic norms and values and they can't give an answer without just calling your a Communist, because Conservatism was replaced with Oligarch bootlick Rentier turbo-Liberalism by fucking Literal Jew Economists and propagandists.
Lets also ignore how these same Jewish figures, were behind turning Christianity into a fucking Jew worshipping cult that rejects communion with Jesus.

Theists and atheists can’t do nuance it’s hilarious. They’re both stuck on their respective side of the same goddamn coin.

>>212444834
Because just going "make an argument why i should act like a normal person instead of a crazed maniac. but no you cant use an argument that fucks my point instantly."
Go ahead and act like a nigger if you want to. If your only reason to not do so is fear of an imaginary magic man you aren't a moral person anyway. You're a shit person held in line through fear.

>>212444910
t. pansexual agnostic, the only logical position, right?

I just finished reading 12 Rules for Live and started reading the next book.

And now I am more convinced that Peterson and his family are haunted or in connection with some indigenous entities.

Jordan, her wife and her daughter all had serious health problems, and all of them were mostly "cured" by restricting their diet to meat.

>>212444927
No. Refer to >>212444759

It’s like atheists getting offended at you for seeing nature as something beautiful or magical. It’s all the same thing seen in different ways.

>>212444857
The fact that I’m not an evil psychopath? Has it occurred to you I just don’t enjoy hurting people?

>>212444913
I've never said this before but I accept the shit out of your concession, your idea of "morality" is a female-brained social consensus and you literally yourself cannot grasp why you have no kneejerk reaction besides "JuST bE a gOOd peRsOn BRO"

In another time and place you'd be cheering on an Aztec carving a heart out, but since you're in the age of secular homos you're a secular homo

>>212444797
Why read when you can scream louder.

>>212444953
this is atheist lol

>>212444852
that's run by *Liberials*.
it's completely different, like comparing an elephant to an elephant seal.

>>212444953
>atheists
>offended at the natural world
I have never seen this ever. What the hell are you talking about?

They should put Jordan Peterson in a boat in the middle of the Caspian Sea. With how much he cries, he'll rejuvenate it in no time.

>>212444913
you dont understand, its sigma and based to be a psycho with a code

>>212444513
>God would not see Himself the same way humans see Him.

>>212444995
>>212444961
Are atheists NPCs? How are you failing the "What if I didn't have breakfast today" test so fucking hard?

>>212444969
Nice projection. And how surprising a modern person has morals fitting for the modern era and not like those of the Aztecs. It's almost as if most morals are already inbuilt into most humans and we don't think "if a literal deity doesnt stop me ill rampage across the world". I get it though. I was 13 once too.

>>212445014
Are you actually retarded?

>>212445023
You had me going for a second there, this is the most spot-on impression of a pseud redditor I've ever seen. You're gonna bait a lot of guys in with that.

>>212444857
I'm able to conceptualize the consequences of my actions.

>>212444847
Asuming the gorilla thinks the same

>>212444982
“It’s not magic, it’s science!”

As though we weren’t living in a literal Atlantean era.

Listen, if you don’t see nature or science as something divine or magical, then you don’t actually love or value or appreciate nature or science, do you?

>>212445058
>Listen, if you don’t see nature or science as something divine or magical, then you don’t actually love or value or appreciate nature or science, do you?
Once I said something like this to my old professor and he lost it on me looool