Are/were offices actually like this?

It's close enough to believable that it makes it funny for me. If a small sized office got managed by a clown like Michael I could definitely see the downstream culture turning into something similar.

Before 2008, I would say it was accurate to a point. Things just ran on autopilot.

>>212446525
you post the exact same thing on every office thread

>>212446616
What? First office thread I've commented on in a long time

>>212446452 (OP)
No.

Fuck no and it really annoys me when you see redditors online saying shit like "we all know a creed"
No you don't, he's a bizarre caricature, shut the fuck up.
Michael would have been sacked years ago, Dwight would have been manager, regardless of how people didn't like him.

>>212446821
>"we all know a creed"
No one has ever said this

>workers care more about the work than the actual boss
Fucking lol
>b-b-but muhh sales affect my pay
Just blame Michael for fucking around constantly.

>>212446821
Jim woulda been canned too

If it was real life, Meredith would have been fucked by every dude in the office on a regular basis.

>employees complain about a boss who doesn't give a fuck how hard they work and even offers to take them out for a long lunch daily
Ok he was a bit annoying, but any real person in that situation would enjoy the fact you're getting paid for doing fuck all every day

>Jim would turn down Amy Adams and Rashida Jones for Pam
Truly the greatest joke the show ever wrote.

all I will say is not anymore
something changed after 2008 but it really manifested after 2020
loyal workers that have been with a company for years are now basically treated as slaves that can be fired over anything and then replaced with a jeet

>>212446821
>Dwight would have been manager, regardless of how people didn't like him.
Being personable and knowing how to network is literally instrumental to getting promoted to manager in any modern office. If people don't like you then you won't get the promotion, regardless of how much you excel in your role.

>>212446452 (OP)
It’s been accurate in different aspects over the years. Now it’s accurate because no one outside of upper management gives a shit in corporate America. It’s all about wasting time until 4 or 5 hits and doing just enough to not get bothered. Much like Michael your boss will be friendly and perhaps even relatable but ultimately they are your boss and you’ll the wall can’t come down. Older guys with families and wives just shut up and do their work like Stanley and don’t give a shit.

Everyone who is single fucking everyone else is super normal. It’s only an HR problem if it’s your boss or you’re ugly

>>212447014
Jim would have fucked every girl there and would be the one every female new hire is warned about, ride the dick but he can’t commit or is unreliable, but funny/cute

COVID killed whatever office culture was left.

>>212447211
Jims don't exist in the real world anymore, maybe they never did. It's just filled with ryans.

>>212447028
Sad but true. My company got bought out by Indians and it only took them 3 years or so to make it a miserable place to work.
Remember kids, never invest in employee retention - just lower the salary, outsource to africa & south asia, and layoff 1 out of every 3 workers. Don't forget to increase executive overlap to accommodate half your extended family in the process!

>>212447360
Not even related to foreign ownership or whatever, these MBA types came in and gave no fucks about the human aspect of keeping people.

There's just no honor or whatever left, you're disposable when it's you or them

>>212447212
Good fucking riddance

>>212447052
People above you liking you and people you work with liking you aren't the same thing though. Many managers will take employees opinions of each other with a massive grain of salt when considering people for promotions, the only real obstacke for Dwight's promotion was Michael not liking him enough because Michael wanted to be cool and liked by Jim.

>>212446821
>Michael would have been sacked years ago, Dwight would have been manager, regardless of how people didn't like him.

Dwight would have been fired for bringing weapons into the workplace.

>>212447795
I'm very mad that the thing Marx was most right about was alienation.
That's the shittiest thing for him to have been right about.
The young people are going to look at what work used to be and wonder how any of us had the gall to complain.

>>212446821
>>212446901
>>212448107
>Michael would have been sacked years ago
>Jim woulda been canned too
>Dwight would have been fired
nope. small companies/branches like this are more likely to fire people who make complaints than the people causing them

>>212447360
Some Indians work unbelievably hard so that they can rise to positions of leadership in Western companies. Once there, they begin to only hire Indians because they know they're basically slave labor. Soon, whatever department became full of Indians gets cut off like a gangrenous limb and whatever they did gets outsourced to India itself, or more increasingly, a paid enterprise web app.

>>212446452 (OP)
no, but they are like the original uk version

>>212448326
Wash, rinse, repeat

>>212448194
>The young people are going to look at what work used to be and wonder how any of us had the gall to complain.
They already make daily threads about Office Space and Fight Club with smug captions like,
>This was considered an awful job 30 years ago

>>212448521
i think it was worse 30 years ago. at least now we have smart phones. id kill myself if i was stuck in a wage cage for 9 hours without one. at least now i can mindlessly scroll instagram reels or something

>>212446452 (OP)
my office is like this but I hate everyone and they hate me so I guess I'm that HR guy.

> Season 2
> 75% of episodes are already about office party/holiday/going out of office day

>>212448896
The pro move was reading or writing in between tasks. I used to mow down Harlan Ellison and Philip K Dick stories while I was waiting for my next call.
We even used to trade books with other big brains when we finished if we didn't want to keep them.

>>212448896
>>212449101
pretty good example of why kids are fucked these days
>oh, 30 minutes of empty time? thank god, I can thoughtlessly return to Comforting Website instead of finding something to do

>>212446452 (OP)
Will Ferrel would have been your boss in episode 2, if you were lucky

>>212449703
>instead of finding something to do
what the fuck else am i able to do?

up until like 2010 most offices ran in a non-exaggerated style like the show
bosses are retards who got promoted because they eat shit with a smile
the job is barely a job (selling a specific product to people who will literally always buy it from you because they specifically need it)
anyone under 30 is fucking each other, anyone over 30 is 40+ pounds overweight
you spend, charitably, 40 minutes a day doing real work and the rest of the time is zoning out or doing other shit on the computer
A company I worked at had restricted internet access as a corporate mandate or whatever, but just for internet explorer, so you could simply get firefox and spend all day doing whatever, and it's not like anyone below the corporate level actually cared either way, particular if you were always slightly above the minimum quotas
I worked for a plastics sales company from when I was 19 to when I was 23, everyone just does what they need to and nothing else, shit like that was on the decline in the early 2010s though

>>212449945
that's the point of being bored. you get rewarded by inventiveness or by meeting and talking with other bored people. or, at the very least, you get time and silence to process your own thoughts.

>>212450145
>meeting and talking with other bored people
bro the last thing i want to do at work is anything related to work or anyone there.
id much rather sit in my wage cage and scroll my phone

>>212446881
anon I...

>some of most productive people in past 3000 years or so that impacted world the most
>literally no office

>>212446452 (OP)
lol, it's much worse - everyone is boring (including me) and all the girls are taken, especially the cute ones

>>212446901
sales people can do whatever they want as long as they hit their quotas. he wouldve been fine

>>212446901
he was usually top 2 salesmen

>>212446947
there was only like 3 dudes old enough and Creed was one of them who did fuck her

>>212451866
>he doesnt hook up with the cutest girl during the christmas party
Couldn't be me.

>>212449026
As someone who works in an office of mostly women, this is accurate

>>212447212
I’ve been WFH since COVID and it’s so unbelievably kino. Office culture is a complete meme to try and convince wagies that being kept squarely under big brothers watchful eye is actually a good thing.

>>212452405
thats what my wife does but despite getting paid the same every check the actual workload shes been given has shrunken and this last week they didn't even do their daily meetings, starting to worry about the stability of her job

>>212452573
NORMIES GET OUT REEEEEE

>>212452405
>>212452573
WFH makes you infinitely easier to lay off, boys. Keep that in mind.
Also in my experience WFH management was far more invasive than in-house. Some of that is just the spirit of the times though. Employers, clients, and managers expect 24/7 access these days. No regard for decency or boundaries.

>>212446821
I'm the Creed of my office.

>>212453208
I’m fortunate enough to work with boomers who simply cannot do my job so laying me off would simply mean having to hire a newbie to be trained remotely anyways since nobody else in my office does what I do.
Also they still regularly hire people remotely for my position in other branches so I’m not super worried about it.

>>212449703
That's what you're doing right now, faggot

>>212446821
This. The UK Office is far more realistic and "office" like. The US version is a sitcom

>>212454835
First season of the US version is semi realistic, by season 3 it was in full on sitcom/romcom territory

>here's the guy that literally every woman in the office wants to fuck and every woman that steps into the office immediately wants to fuck

>>212446452 (OP)
I was a salesman and actually, some of the jokes can only picked up by somebody that worked on it

>>212448247
They werent a small company, their corporate handbook would have likely been written to New York laws as they were headquartered there.

Discharging a gun infront of a bunch of women and normies likely would have brought criminal charges no matter how liked dwight was in the department for being a suck up wannabe.

>>212454877
Yeah but Americans couldn't stomach realism so they had to up the wackiness and have people throwing hidden cats into the ceiling

>>212449703
The internet has mainstream existed for 30 years. Thats 3 decades of cyber slacking.

I use to work in HR before covid and the women in general were quite nice and upbeat with me and always asking me about my evenings and weekends.

>>212446452 (OP)
Yes I had an Indian girl working i my office one time and she was very annoying but she was very hot actually
>inb4 hot
yeah whatever

Also there was a kind girl like pam but she wasn't attractive at all.

>>212455155
It isn't about what Americans can stomach, it's about what network executives who haven't been hard since the late 70s think americans want to see/won't piss off advertisers.

>>212451972
>>212446901
>>212446821
Salesman here
You can do lots of crazy shit in a sales enviroment as long as you sell. I am kinda autistic like anyone in this site, and was always kinda weird on my way of selling and doing things. But my bosses learned that they just needed to just leave me alone and I would bring fat cash. And I did for several years. My mates were always half drunk, coked or just didn't arrive at the office. But then they brought a big client and all was fine.

Companies only care about money. They will tolerate anything as long as you bring money. Sadly, the economy took a dive and the company I worked cut their expenses and saw writings on the wall, and I got tired of the ever growing pressure. Without clients willing to spend it's just a slow death. But yeah, I've met Michaels, Dwights and Jims. Those weird people that don't fit anywhere else are salesmen aces.

>>212455219
kill yourself

>>212455326
why? im actually very nice and went way out of my way to help people. I got one person an advance on their pay for 2 months as they needed it to pay for something

>>212455267
>I am kinda autistic like anyone in this site

My gf started working a stressful and low paid customer service job 6 months ago. It's 5 days on site, 8-17 on the dot and 2 hours of daily commute. When she gets home she has enough energy to eat the dinner that I've cooked, binge something we've both already seen or play HOMM 3 for a couple of hours before dozing off. As a cherry on top, her coworkers are a bunch of annoying zoomers who's only interests are tictok and mumble rap. I honestly don't understand how she can still keep it going.

>t. sole front end dev in a team of 5 with 2 days on site and 40 minutes daily commute

>>212455267
>I am kinda autistic like anyone in this site
I work for Big Pharma in Microbiology and I'm not an autist at all. I was actually tested for autism and they said im not even close as im too affable and talkative and extremely high emotional intelligence.

>>212455445
She's commuting 2 hours for a fucking customer service job? Where the fuck do you live that she couldn't find one closer?

>>212455471
>I work for Big Pharma in Microbiology and I'm not an autist at all.
kek

>>212455478
1 hour one way, 2 hours total per day. We live in Stockholm and the commute times are unfortunately like that around here. That is not even so bad, at one of my previous jobs at a consultant agency my bosses tried to push me into accepting a client that was 2 hours away from me, and wouldn't even provide a company car lease.

>>212455471
Being literally diagnosably on the spectrum isn't what most people on here are talking about when they refer to themselves as autistic, it's just an exaggeration for certain personality types.

>>212455142
>likely would have brought criminal charges
Who cares?
People treat this shit like it's a way bigger deal than it is. Discharging a firearm within city limits is going to be a minor misdemeanor. For a first time offender with no history of drug use or violent crime, the judge will slap them with a fine and probation. That means they'll never spend a night in jail, and will maybe have to do some community service on the weekend twice a month for a year or something. It's not something that will cause any major issues, it might raise a few eyebrows at best.

>>212455768
The severity of the charges don't really matter, it's that he committed a crime on company property with tons of witnesses and no way to avoid reporting it, which can result in a lot of people getting automatically fired.
That said that usually only applies to wagies and not salespeople, especially not top sellers like he supposedly was.

>>212446452 (OP)
>O viajante.
Maybe, ti depens

>>212453917
Good shit. Take full advantage buddy and Godspeed

>>212455267
I want to add that ever since i stopped doing sales I've felt like I don't belong anywhere. I was too into it. It is a job with the highest heights and the lowest downs and felt like a complete ride. I hated and loved being on that kind of enviroment. You can tell your boss to fuck off and even the boss's boss and they will (eventually) understand. It made unlikely people friends and enemies as well outside the office. I thought I would never miss something like it, but I do. I was a good exec. People recognized it long after I was gone. Now that i'm on a different career it feels so disjointed. Tried to do some admin kind of things and it fucking sucks the soul out of your body. I can't stop thinking like a go-getter and got into so much troubles because any other enviroment doesn't want to do things, just slowly exist or die.

The Office hits kinda close to home.

Fuck bros I wanna start watching this again but I forgot what season/episode I was on

>>212457515
watch the extended episodes then stop after season 4

>get security clearances
>instant job security
>jeets cant touch us by law
>fully wfh
>company doesnt even have an office big enough to recall people back to and all the upper workforce is geographically scattered anyway
>government clients take two weeks to decide where one piece of information should even get displayed on a webpage
>this will probably get delayed anyway
>coordinater between my team and the client is a black queen who thinks the most basic task is computer magic and overhyped all our achievements to internal staff
5 years in the jeet-pit hell of big 4 consulting to get here, life is good

>>212455445
She's fucking her work husband

>>212457928
The jeets are stand ins until all that gets automated anyways

I've never worked in an office, but I've worked warehouse at a company in a similar setup as Dunder-Mifflin. The episode where the officeoids come downstairs and start acting like completely retarded faggots is 100% accurate

>>212446452 (OP)
>That's what she said
Yes, they were. You would get fired if you made a joke like that in the office today. Yes, even if you're the boss.

>>212446452 (OP)
Some offices are still this way, I did an internship at a small videosurveillance place a few years ago that still did desk islands, had a paternal boss with lame jokes, a fat guy who was always microwaving smelly shit, an old office slut who no one wanted to fuck, no Creed but the guy who was supposed to be mentoring me was clearly pretending to be more competent than he actually was. Business was good so no pressure on anyone either, the sales guys were dicks like in the show but kept it harmless enough that no one gave them shit. It's probably the same now, the country I live in is pouring cash into videosurveillance.

>tfw the only office job I had I was completely alone 90% of the time because it was the overnight shift
So glad I missed that bullshit. It was fun fucking around with the people who were off the clock staying late sometimes, but since nobody else was there I got to just read or watch Starcraft or whatever else once I had finished my like 40 minutes of work.

>>212446452 (OP)
No. I don't doubt that people fuck/date coworkers but it's never as obvious as in the show because everyone is scared of HR and losing their jobs.

>>212459836
>it's never as obvious as in the show because everyone is scared of HR and losing their jobs.
You would think they would be, but in practice most 20-somethings don't give a shit about any of that until they firsthand experience it or at least watch it happen to someone else. And even then they only really retain the lesson for like a couple years.