Thread 212446736

Oh boy, I sure do love some Western creature design.

>>212446736 (OP)
Japanese monsters is just Godzilla knockoffs

>>212446736 (OP)
The most popular nip monster ripped off a western one

>>212446736 (OP)
Almost 20 years of "excellence".
Where would we be without Hollywood?

>>212446736 (OP)
add to this: arcadian monsters, kong skull island skullcrawlers

>>212446813
its really shocking how much godzilla ripped this off. even the nuclear theme isnt original

What monster would (you) like to see in a movie? A gigantic snake slithering through NY buildings and eating people would be pretty dope, I think.

>>212446736 (OP)
it combines the creepiest elements of nature
insects, reptiles and blacks

What are some good western creature designs?

>>212447162
like a slightly enlarged rat maybe

>>212447173
Jean Jacket

>>212446736 (OP)
Gareth Edwards has never made a good movie

>>212447301
A swarm of giant rats in New York City. They make a nest in that one jewelry district.

>>212447301
The rats in ww1 were crazy

>>212446813
me with the gun

>>212446736 (OP)
>Jurassic Park went from having the best dinosaurs ever seen on screen to a shitty Crash Bandicoot boss that was designed as a toy first and an actual creature second
Fuck Jewllywood and this entire industry, they should all fucking die

>>212447173
this one is literally the same as OP

>>212446736 (OP)
Cloverfield started this. It was an iconic and original monster design when it first came out.

>>212446813
Japanese "creativity" at work

>>212447162
a platypus the size of a whale shark!!!

>>212447173
>>212447447
These two are good.
Also OP forgets that probably they all copied the aliens in Spielberg's War of the Words which have a similar body type but look more like evil nerds than mindless monsters

>>212447162
giant eyeball

>hey you know what would be really spooky? If our stupid monster walked on its knuckles
Why is this a thing?

>>212446736 (OP)
Here is a good western kaiju

>>212447162
>>212447301
I smell crossover potential

>>212447162
A giant (white) penis destroying New York

>>212447651
So you want hellstar remina live action

>>212447654
Amerifats looked at a gorilla once and got mindbroken beyond repair

>>212447162
a gigantic... chicken

>>212447162
I really liked Edgar and Boris from Men in Black. Something along those lines

>>212446736 (OP)
Cloverfield ruined a generation of Hollywood special effects artists

>>212448042
Neville Paige is a wonderful artist, but he's kind of a one trick pony when it comes to creature designs.

>>212446813
>you'll see it tear a city apart
holy kino!
>>212447623
>Japanese "creativity" at work
if I recall the Japanese made a whole cinematic universe about this. that's a bit more than just a single movie

>>212448237
*Neville Page

>>212447447
absolutely, shame it had to be in a jordan peele flick

>>212446813
Incredibly low IQ post.

>>212446736 (OP)
>kaijus
Weebs disgust me.

>>212447464
Genuinely I wonder who he has dirt on to keep on directed huge blockbuster films. Guy went from a nobody indie director to suddenly being involved with Godzilla, Star Wars and now Jurassic World/Park. Either the guy has massive dirt on somebody or gives the best head of all time.

>>212448272
>if I recall the Japanese made a whole cinematic universe about this.

The only reason why they brought Godzilla back after Raids again was due to prodding from American producers who wanted drive-in fodder, and Toho continued working with Americans well into the Showa era, hence the presence of American actor Nick Adams in Invasion of Astro Monster and War of the Gargantuas.

They kept it going from the 60s into the 70s because it caught on with kids, Gamera became a thing, and Tokusatsu as a genre was taking off.

You like Godzilla in color? Thank America.

>>212448377
He got Godzilla because he did Monsters, he got Rogue One because of Godzilla, and he got Jurassic World because both Godzilla and Rogue One were well received by critics and audiences.

>>212448475
I thought critics hated Godzilla 2014?
they're kinda right cause the movie is shit barring the last 5 minutes

>>212448440
ok so there was a market for the films and they made more. I don't see how this minimizes "Japanese creativity"

>>212447162
a giant squirrel

>>212447162
I want a literal revelations movie with everything from the bible happening in a pretty graphical way. It'd be kino

>>212448559
76 Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, which is considerably better than King of the Monsters or Godzilla x Kong, and is singing praise for what genre stuff like this typically gets. GvK did about the same.

>>212448342
You're posting on a weebsite

>>212448590
This whole goddamn thread is minimizing American creativity when the US basically wrote the book on designing iconic movie monsters.

>>212446736 (OP)
>poor creature design, west
:|
>poor creature design, Japan
:O

>>212446736 (OP)
Primeval's future predator is still kino.

>>212447623
Just Japanese Things™

>>212446736 (OP)
e l b o w s

>>212448796
Most American giant monsters are "Regular animal but big"

>>212447162
a big monke

>>212447162
Worm that just becomes 2 smaller worms every time it gets hurt
Or maybe some kind of animal that just sheds damaged parts and then regrows them quickly, essentially making it immortal

it was cool the first 2 times

>>212447162
Can you really go wrong with a giant animal? They're some of the most famous movie monsters while overdesigned garbage like the OP are forgotten immediately.

>>212446736 (OP)
Nigga, some of those aren’t even kaijus.

>>212447173
>what if giant man... but two siren head???

>>212446736 (OP)
Add methusula and the giant wooly mammoth cloverfield sloth from Godzilla: King of the monsters 2019.

>>212450885
So’s most of Toho’s stable of monsters. There’s a reason why the vast majority of the time when Toho reboots the Godzilla franchise, they always go back to Ghidorah, Mechagodzilla, and Mothra.

>>212452056
because they're too afraid of Gigan's power

>>212446736 (OP)
I want to fuck those.

>>212447173
No One Gets Out Alive

>>212446813
Godzilla even plagiarized the spiky back

>>212451821
No one gives a fuck about rampage and that had a generic giant gorilla, a generic giant wolf, and a generic giant alligator.

>>212451821
cloverfield and Godzilla 2014 were not immediately forgotten

>>212447654
its about uncanney body shape thats what people have liked nearly 20 years now

ET also looks like that.

>>212447173
9 in general had great designs all around

What qualifies as Kaiju?
>>212447173
Oldie but a goodie

>>212446736 (OP)
They never know what to do with the arms

>>212447566
Blind retard

>>212447767
It's been done

>>212447173

The alien from Super 8

>>212446736 (OP)
Clover deserves a free pass since it's the one who invented (or at least popularized) the archetype in the first place. It's a solid unique design that everyone else has been chasing. In my opinion MUTO is also a fantastic variation of the design. Yes it utilizes the now cliche leg structure, but it's general proportions and shape mix it up significantly. I really adore all the hard angles and flat surfaces. It makes it feel almost like a machine transitioned into an organic form. Easily one of my favorite western monster designs in decades.

It's not /tv/ but porn aside, the Wraith is genuinely another all-timer and its actual in-game animations make it even better. Evolve in general had amazing designs. Even the more generic ones still had a lot of detail put into things like their skin texture or facial structure that made them stand out a bit more when you got a good look at them.

>>212447447
such a retarded nonsense name. doesn't roll off the tongue at all.goddamn i hate jordan peele so much.
nigger.

>>212447173
Pacific Rim had some nice kaiju designs. My favorite was the Otachi.

>>212446813
And then the North Koreans made a copy of Godzilla
So many layers of blatant lazy copying.

>>212447162
I feel like a snake would be easy to fight, if it where godzilla size, that's a lot of body length to shoot at.
And a godzilla sized snake wouldn't be able constrict a human, they are too big, and that's the coolest way snakes kill, so what's the point?

>>212455670
how red were you when you typed that

>>212456056
OK, so a slightly bigger anaconda with scales made of a steel-like material, making it impervious to bullets and bombs. Also it spits acid

>>212456372
Make it a DARPA drone that's gone rogue and got loose in a major US city.
>60 foot long Titanium snake
>spits acid (has to refill reserves, this is a plot point)
>designed for anti insurgency work, it'll hide in subways
>"A Michael bay film"

BEHOLD

Why do they all look like that?

I always liked this guy from the War of the Monsters film.

I wish there was a decent monster movie based on the Beast of Gevaudan. Brotherhood of the Wolf was full of too much faggy political shit. Just give me a wolf or whatever eating people while the King's personal gunman desperately tries to hunt it down. It even has the perfect sequel hook because another one started a second killing spree about a year later, but no one cared anymore by then.
I don't know how you'd make the monster all that interesting though. I think the prevailing theory is that it was just a wolf crossbred with a big mastiff type dog. I guess you could make it horse-sized and frame it as someone's exaggerated recollections.

>>212446736 (OP)
they really couldn't help themselves could they.

>>212456797
Simultaneously yes and no. Yes, because they look good and they work in the movie and they're not the usual long-armed bullshit. No, because they took "monster wolf" and "monster ape" and "monster dinosaur" and just reduced them to "wolf" and "gorilla" and "crocodile."

>>212453775
>movie is like 30 minutes long
WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF MY TIME

>>212456797
Wasnt that an old video game?

>>212458680
War of the Monsters was great and it's one of the greatest tragedies in all of gaming that it never got a sequel. GigaBash comes kinda close but still doesn't really scratch the same sort of itch WOTM did.

>>212447301
A rodent of unusual size?

>>212447767
The X From Outer Space did that already

>>212459238
Yes

>>212447733
Damn, western kaijus look like THAT?

>>212448684
GTFO weeb

>>212450791
gramps is posting that cherrypicked image of immediate post war products again.

>>212446813
>>212446813
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>>212446813
>>212459674

>>212447173
>>212447447
good ones
also

>>212458486
1. Most of those films came out at a time where "gritty realism" was the norm for American action movies and even ones with fantastical elements needed to have muted colors and conservative designs.
2. It was likely easier translate grey, smooth, vaguely humanoid, designs to CGI.
3. Those films in particular were either horror or leaning into horror and neither wanted or needed monsters with colorful or intricate designs

>>212451029
not my fault humanoid body plans are so good

>>212459995
Fucking Based

>>212459775
what was his problem?

>>212447447
Oh no not Bed Bath and Beyond having a monster baby with H&R Block!

>>212446736 (OP)
kek They all have lanky arms lol

>>212450791
kek

>>212452857
To be fair, the monster wasn’t really why cloverfield was memorable, you barely even saw it

>>212452360
Adam Nevill is that good, i recommend read his shit

>>212451029
>>212451062
it's always amusing to see random normies try to understand and make sense of concept art sensibilities and how designs even come into existence. even funnier when they try to attribute problems within the concept art industry with certain namedropped individuals. in fact i'd imagine that Miles Treves fellow is a failed junior concept artist.

>>212457228
cute retard

>>212447447
>>212460198
This one is one of my favorites along with Jotunn from the Ritual

>>212446813
The -ira/-illa in Gojira/Godzilla's name also comes from gorira/gorilla because Godzilla is simultaneously a "knockoff" of 20000 Fathoms and King Kong (which had a big rerelease at the time.)
"Knockoff" is in quotes because obviously the crew made a much better and more unique film than the suits at Toho who were chasing a quick buck intended.

>>212447767
You mean...Ultra...Mega Chicken? No, shhh, he is legend.

>>212455283
> Jj abrams plagiarizing the faun from pans labyrinth
>>212455620
> LITERALLY the cloverfield monster but with no hind legs
Nigga are you retarded?
> /v/idya shit
Go the fuck back

>>212447173
>Lovecraft was born in Providence, Rhode Island, on August 20, 1890, the only child of a relatively affluent family whose ancestry dated to the original founding colonists.

cthulhu counts imo

>>212455283
nigga that's a dog lmao

>>212455283
Garrus looking ass

>>212455620
I agree with you that the MUTO gets too much flak, but I also think Cloverfield gets too much of a pass. Cloverfield's limbs are far too thin and spread out from its center of mass to believably bear it's weight. MUTO is very pleasing because of how sturdy, vertical, and columnar it is. Makes it much easier to buy that this things limbs could actually hold it up.

Are there any European movies or games with monsters like this or is it another case of using "western" to mean American?

>>212462864
The monster in the top middle is from a British show and it’s called a future predator.

>>212446736 (OP)
they are prepping us for aliens that they know look like this

>>212446736 (OP)
what does it say about the Western Soul they create these?
What lurked in the forests of Germania before the Aryans first arrived?

>>212446736 (OP)
the future predator is fine
not it's fault everyone copied it

>>212458800
There was a French movie called Cursed about it from a few years ago. IIRC they just made it a werewolf in that though.

>>212461318
Is that the bugs from Green Hell? Pretty decent flick, that. I saw a lot of negative reviews, but I liked it.

How about.. a giant car?

>>212446813
why are they like this?

>>212462864
Gorgo

>>212459584
immediate post war lasted into the 2000s? damn, i didn't know the nukes fucked them up that bad

>>212466610
desu I'm surprised Stephen King never wrote a story about a giant car

>>212446736 (OP)
sick, future predator

>>212466610
There is a movie about a living monster truck seeking revenge.

japan is more creative than the west and i'm tired of pretending they're not

Giant guns.
Shooting giant bullets.
Crushing cars with giant empties.
Enslaving humanity to work in giant ammo factories.
People huddle in discarded giant magazines, dreaming of the day they overthrow their giant gun masters.

>>212446736 (OP)
What's the second nigga from?

>>212460983
>replaces you with proompting
lol!

>>212452886
Well the movie makers have, I dont think the audience does. It's not even uncanny enough to be creepy, it's just awkward.

>>212466754
Tezuka's Bambi and Pinocchio are licensed adaptations.

>>212461603
sauce?
dark souls aped these guys didn't they

>>212468369
Willow and no, DS1 had two hydra though but those were more just based on the mythological creature, though the specific design elements were from Berserk.

>>212468426
I'm not talking about the hydras, they reminded me a lot of the primordial serpent guys

>>212466754
to achieve greatness, you copy the masters until you can surpass them

and now you've been surpassed 2x

>>212462782
Them? Love tthat flick. Giant insect apocalypse is a kino idea

>>212446776
your mom is a godzilla knockoff lmao

>>212468988
you'll love this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVEjdGQSzc8

>>212468988
Giant insects are kino because they're insects and they just don't give a fuck. They have no real motivation and can't be reasoned with plus they're ridiculously hard to kill.

>>212469181
see
>>212469086

>>212446736 (OP)
It's Chalicotheres, all the way down.

>>212469181
You can kill them in droves in the messiest ways possible 1000% guilt free too because they're just fucking bugs.

>>212447654
Cloverfield. That design traces directly back to cloverfield

>>212470306
See >>212469517

>>212447447
Evangelion ripoff.

>>212459965
I love these autistic graboids

>>212467086
Immediate postwar also started in the 30s apparently too lmao

>>212461184
>what if it was just a monkey?
>...
>b-but like really big!

>>212469517
>>212470484
Retard ass donkey cant decide if he wants to be bipedal or not haha

>>212471571
Big Monke 2spooky.

How would /tv/ redesign them?

>>212462823
>Cloverfield's limbs are far too thin and spread out from its center of mass to believably bear it's weight.
To be fair, anon, Clover does indeed spend most of the movie stumbling and flailing around uselessly.

>>212446736 (OP)
Kek

>>212462823
IIRC clover is a literal baby

>>212450791
>Japanese beatles
>Tigger mask
No fucking way

>>212459995
I highly recommend the book, the movie doesn't do it justice. (The Relic)

>>212467595
top middle?
the future predator from primeval

>>212447173
We were fucking robbed.

>>212473442
>>212447173

>>212473041
How is it better?

>>212446736 (OP)
JJ Abrams dicknosed monsterverse

>>212473442
>>212473459
Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that this movie was never made. Even if it was super successful, I can't imagine America doing a full Godzilla series at that point in time, and now we have the MonsterVerse. I do agree that Godzilla and Gryphon had great designs, though.

>>212461608
For me, it's Mi-Go.

>>212450791
>ripped off the Gibson logo 5 times

>>212473547
>and now we have the MonsterVerse
You say like it's a good thing
Godzilla 2014 was good but all of the sequels are hardly watchable

>>212473858
>You say like it's a good thing
It is. I'm not saying they're perfect, they definitely have a variety of problems that need fixing, but overall they've been pretty solid so far, and they've made Godzilla FUN again. As amazing as Minus One and Shin were, they're hardly feel good "Godzilla saves the day" films, so it's nice to have both ends of the Godzilla spectrum active at the same time. Plus, it's nice that the other monsters have been a good mix of Toho classics and new creations, instead of just completely one or the other.
>Godzilla 2014 was good
I used to really like 2014 but over time it's gotten worse and worse in my eyes. The somber tone is perfect but I can't get over the "keep away" routine with the monsters (yes, Gareth, we've all seen Jaws), killing off the heart and soul of the story (Bryan Cranston's character) half an hour in, and what a useless sack of shit Aaron Taylor Johnson's character actually is.

>>212447587
Actually the future bat thing from primaeval is a year older
I doubt there's a connection though

>>212462782
The jumpscare in this movie from the 1950s actually got me.

>>212466754
Some of these are such nothingburgers it's funny
>You're telling me the Tokyo Beatles ripped off the Beatles!!?!?!?!!11one!!1
If you think Japan is bad for making knock off brands I can't imagine the heart attack you'd have if you walked into a Lidl or Aldi in Europe.

>>212475047
When the little girl just starts screaming out of nowhere?

>>212446813
Over a year in the making used to be a marketing point
How does it take them so damn long to make a movie now.

>>212446736 (OP)
Including future predator feels bad because it was the original design that everyone else just ripped off because it was from an obscure British TV show that no one in America would have heard about. The fact that it was ripped off so heavily is proof that it's design was good.

Also the future predator has an in-universe explanation for why it has a body plan where it's arms are longer than it's legs. It's supposed to have evolved from bats so it's arms and fingers being longer is in reference to fact that bats have long arms and fingers.

>>212475216
When they're talking casually next to a small cliff and an ant starts suddenly climbing over.

>>212446736 (OP)

Had to scroll through the comments to see if this was already posted. But Indonesia think so. Remembering seeing this on either AMC or some other movie channel that showed old classic movies during the 2000s.

>>212447173
xenomorph, the thing, the fly and any cronenberg creation, various hellraiser monsters, sandworm in arrakis, starship troopers insects, tremors, iron giant, sarlacc, exogorth, smaug, sauron, IT, bodysnatchers, they live monsters

western monsters are infiltrators, horrifying rumors, hidden threats rather than all destructive forces of nature

>>212447173
Pyramid Head, AM, All Tomorrows' Qu, Roko's Basilisk, HALO Gravemind, Brethren Moon, Wendigoo & Skinwalkers

>>212475535
Someone please add glasses, a patchy beard and a Nintendo switch to this image.

>>212473858
>Godzilla 2014 was good but all of the sequels are hardly watchable
This claim is so unfathomably fucking baffling to me.

>>212475589
It has the vibe and aesthetic of a good movie, and the Comic-Con teaser trailer was God-tier, so it tricks a lot of people.

>>212476099
>>212475589
No I am saying it's baffling that people hate the others.

14 & 19 are very good.
GVK is decent.
Monarch is good-ish.
Haven't seen GXK

>>212447447
That's a jellyfish

>>212446736 (OP)
>eastern kaijus

>>212459134
Shelley Duvall's looking rough these days

>>212467394
then why were you pretending it? fucking faggot

>>212446736 (OP)
>You gotta spread out the weight on four limbs so...
>what do you mean it's still too much weight even on 4 limbs?
>no we cant just make them all giant worms sliding around on their bellies

>>212467394
I'd say they're more creative in terms of stuff that gets exposure, but the West is also creative if we count multimedia (books, movies, etc) that are more underground. And some of the best Japanese media is overtly inspired or based on the West.

>>212446813
Yup. Tokusatsu stems from this nigga too.

>>212447162
Frog people

How big do they need to be to be considered kaiju and not just a regular monster?

>>212446736 (OP)
this is why Tremors is one of my favorite films. But if we are dunking on creature design, hold the Fuck up, the west owns the xeno, predator and T rex (fake as fuck animal). No one has topped the fake T rex kaiju

>>212467394
the amount of borrowing between japan and USA for anime for instance, is so canibalistic that its just as correct to say Walt Disney and ww2 are responsible for all that you associate with japanes art

>Some of the most expensive scenes ever produced
>Some of the best kaiju destruction practical effects ever made
>Completely removed and almost became lost media because audiences can't bad endings

>>212477351
keyed

They should have used the Vishnu monster from the Godzilla 2014 teater trailer instead of mutos

>>212477721
Technically, all monsters are kaiju. All "kaiju" means is "strange beast." Giant monsters like Godzilla and co. are technically "daikaiju."

>>212447693
>>212477891
Having watched both of these sequences, I really wish America had made a giant monster movie in the '80s. It would've been amazing.

>>212473548
the Mi-Go fucking rock, they should be the basis for all alien species imo

>>212478283
>>212478107
Bump

>>212473858
Damn. i found 2014 barely watchable and skipped the rest

>>212473547
The monsterverse is trash.

let me guess... you need more

>>212474504
> I'm not saying they're perfect, they definitely have a variety of problems that need fixing, but overall they've been pretty solid so far, and they've made Godzilla FUN again.
The monsterverse isn’t even about Godzilla. It’s all about King Kong.

>>212456645
>>212456372
Michael Bay already did this (minus the acid) in Transformers 3 and it was KINO

>>212470614
I admire the Angles for being entirely "fuck you, we ain't explaining shit". Probably the only good lovecraftian horror of the modern age.

>>212479770
They explain angels and it's retarded.
Basically super-aliens (god?) made two lineages of life, the life you find on earth and angels. They spawn from two different moons and usually a planet only gets one of the moons.
We got both. So angels show up and try eating us because apparently we can't get along together. Even though Shinji's femboy husband proves that wrong.

>>212473466
It explains a lot more about the creature's origins and you get to experience the creature terrorizing people in the museum. Nearly 500 pages, but good stuff

>>212447173
Bioraptors and Mud Raptors from Riddick.
Simple, clean, not focus grouped to death.

>>212475586
Someone did, but I don't have it saved

>>212480305
Sorry, meant to say Mud Demons. As with many Riddick fans I'm mildly retarded.

jean jacket is so fucking lame, man /v/ has better taste in film than this shitty board wtf

>>212475535
how could he possibly get all the calories he needs out of planets if he's this big?

>>212480487
that bitch magic he don't need calories

>>212480520
but then why does he eat?

>>212480743
because he hungers

>All they do is eat, they do not think, just consoom

What was King really trying to tell us here?

>>212480409
Maybe it looks better in motion but in the pictures it looks like a fucking plastic bag.

>>212477891
Considering how much 80s movies loved the 1950s I’m surprised we never got a big budget remake of Them. Would have been kino

>>212480890
that he was a pretentious libtard just like 99% of muttceleb