Why are men with muscles depicted as retards in movies and TV shows?

>>212482718 (OP)
they're written by fat lesbians and jewish nerds

>>212482718 (OP)
because they almost always are regardless of what retards here try to think

Because guys who become screenwriters are usually like this

>>212482718 (OP)
second to last black guy got close to a perfect reaction with the spin until he chimped out

>>212482865
come say that to my face not online and see wha-

>>212482718 (OP)
Because anyone stronger than me has poop in their heads where their brain should be and I hate them.

>>212482718 (OP)
Because its the fantasy of the fags in the writers room. They want some big muscle daddy to be dumb so, so they can easily manipulate them into coming and pounding their twink asses

>>212482877
Why are vegans heads always so much bigger than their bodies? He’s not even scrawny either, he just looks weird.

>>212482877
https://youtu.be/EFF30jfTubU?si=LDxLZupx9F1VtMJH

post more vegankino

Marky mark isn't retarded in every movie

>>212482718 (OP)
>cardio-maxxed/otter mode = high IQ
>big dog mode = mid IQ
>powersharter mode = low IQ
>roidtranny mode = abysmal IQ
that's the general rule, you know I'm right

most of the smart people I went to school with were at least decent athletes

>>212482718 (OP)
What a Chad.

anyway that stereotype has been around for ages and I think it's partly jealousy, but also if you think back to school, the smartest nerds were rarely athletic

Because to get seriously jacked that's basically your life. Just constantly eating, working out or resting. Not a lot of time to actually engage your brain. These retards all have some form of mental illness too. Literally seeking the approval of other men. All the hot girls at work are married to average build guys and think gym freaks are weirdos.

>>212483389
>fat = galaxybrained
Retards will deny this.

hollywood writers got "bullied" in school
I put bullied in quotes because typically the nerds who get bullied are kind of generally hostile in some way and bring it upon themselves, and they grow up and write stories about how every guy who played sports in high school raped girls or how every cheerleader was a bitchy whore who fucked her teachers or whatever
when really, good-looking, popular people are usually pretty nice and alright to basically everyone until someone gives them a reason not to be, like when a smelly nerd mumbles some insult at the back the classroom

>>212482718 (OP)
It's true.

>>212483458
what's the brain made of? That's right, fat. Do I need to say more?

>>212483447
No it fucking isn't. 3 hours a week in the gym is more than enough with compound lifts. Roiders could get away with even less, but that sort of defeats the point of putting your health at risk with roids

>I'm smarter than a physically fit billionaire
this is what people that were passive aggressive losers in high school actually believe

>>212482877
lord farquaad looking mf

>>212483447
I'm like #4 in pic related. Lift 2-3 times a week and eat/drink whatever the fuck I want. Never counted a calorie in my life. Yet I've been accused of roiding by a lot of ignorant lanklets who's only experience with lifting is a few weeks of new-years-resolution lifting before they give up like the bitches they are

>>212483644
Man some of these times really make no sense. Why would Snack take longer than both meals? Why is the 2nd snack an hour shorter?

>>212483363
Worst pull-ups I've ever seen, didn't expect that from him.

>>212482877
vegans cheat by consuming so much brotein. it's still an animal product, you cowards.

>>212483795
>Worst pull-ups I've ever seen
Let me fix that for you

>>212483363
>0, 0, 0, 0...
What did he mean by this?

>>212483829
Is this performance art?

>>212483879
It's crossfit. Basically the veganism of lifting

>>212483829
This is some advanced crossfit technique, impressive.

>>212483735
If number 4 just stopped drinking beer he'd become number 1

>>212483363
>>212483870
he heard the money was going to vietnamese kids

>>212483447
This sounds like lazy fatso cope.
It doesn't take more than 90 minutes to complete a workout. Besides, you grow when you rest, and unless you're loaded up on gear, you aren't in the gym more than 3-4 times a week else you just see diminishing returns. Going to the gym won't even make you a hulking mass either, and those "average build" guys you see probably do hit the gym. It's just that they aren't on gear under perfect lighting shirtless to show it off.

>>212483829
Why’d he let go

>>212482718 (OP)
Jealousy and envy

>>212484053
He didn't want to become too jacked and leave humanity behind.

>>212484045
>90 minutes
2 compounds + pullups is all any man needs for a balanced physique which mogs 95% of other men, and that only takes 30-45 minutes.

A: Squats + Bench + Pullups
B: Deadlift + OHP + Pullups
Week 1: ABA
Week 2: BAB

Simple as

>>212483735
>lanklets
LOL stay mad, little guy

>>212483447
>to get seriously jacked
The dudes in the OP are all on gear sans the antagonist.
You will simply never get that big. You can maybe get halfway there with top 1% genes/muscle insertions, but your average dude can waste as much time as he likes in the gym, he's never going to get close to being accused of roids.

Have you guys ever considered simply not being gay?

>>212484045
So 90 minutes in the gym + travel to and from + 8-10 hours at work + time cooking + sleep = yep not a lot of time to do things and engage the noggin.
Face it, most gym bros are retarded. Likely read bollocks and listen to podcasts for entertainment.

>>212484208
Not being able to physically defend your woman is the gayest of all

>>212484227
One hour on my bench with my weights at home. Make life easy for yourself. Staying in shape is not hard.

>>212484227
>he doesn't have 90 extra minutes to spare 3 days a week
If you're so smart then why are you stuck in the wagecage with no spare time?

>>212484152
Should I be squatting with weight ? How many reps for all these things? Am I doing A, then a day off, then B, etc or could I do this on 3 consecutive days ?

>>212484239
Nice muscles you've got there

>>212484152
I say 90 minutes because it depends how much rest time you operate into it.
If you do 3-5x8-12 for each exercise with like 1-2 minutes of rest, then yeah it'll take you around 45 minutes.
That routine is very much for beginners as well, but it does work. I'd make those squats into front squats for better core activation, and deadlifts aren't all that important for hypertrophy (which is what most guys are after).

>>212484342
>i also pull my gun
>your dyel twig fingers cant squeeze the trigger fast enough
>i magdump on you
thanks

>>212482718 (OP)
Because it takes being a retard to shave off 20-30 years of your lifespan by roiding
And yes, every single male hollywood celebrity who's known for their body is juicing, and the classic henchman tier muscle dude in media is roided to the gills

>>212484333
General rule for reps:
>5x3 for strength.
>8x3 for strength+hypertrophy.
>12x3 for hypertrophy.

You should start with building strength, and after you've built a solid foundation, you can begin to pivot towards hypertrophy.

And yes, squat with weight. Begin with the bar and add little by little. Add 5lbs every week. Go on youtube and learn proper form. If you're retarded and do it wrong you can nuke your back for the rest of your life.

And you do monday, wednesday, friday. Don't be retarded and burn yourself out like the vast majority of beginners. Rest is just as important as lifting

>>212484333
Nta but
>Should I be squatting with weight ?
Yes. Always. Start with an unloaded bar if you have to. Add weight until you struggle to squeeze out 8 reps. Once you can hit 12 reps, add more weight.
Without weight, you'll have no way to track progress. You need to lift big to get big, simple as.
How many reps for all these things? Am I doing A, then a day off, then B, etc or could I do this on 3 consecutive days ?
Depending on the muscle group, you'll need at least 48-72 hours before you should hit them again. So you could technically do 3 days in a row, but imho, you're better off spreading it out. Rest is what makes you grow, gym is only there to create the tears. If you don't rest sufficiently, you're just reopening the same tears and never progressing.

>>212484504
Kek how many bars did this guy destroy to get to that point

>>212484045
The gym session itself is a small part of it. You need to revolve your entire life around lifting
I know myself from bulking on 3-4k calories a day, most of my spare time was spent preparing and eating food and shitting

>>212482718 (OP)
Those are faked. You know that, right?

Can't believe you saved that and thought it was all real lol

>>212484570
>gym is only there to create the tears
Real men are crying when they leave the gym or you didn't get a good workout

>>212483447
So how about Arnold?

>>212484609
Were you an actual bodybuilder or just retarded? Like 99% of guys who lift just try to eat at a 500 kcal surplus and they ballpark it instead of pulling out the calculator with every meal.

Do you think you have to eat 8k calories a day like Michael Phelps to go swimming too? Fucking hell

>>212484504
nigga nearly dying for a bigger butt.

>>212482877
Jesus

>>212484609
I don't get what's so hard to eat 3-4k calories.
I put down 3k calories effortlessly. 4k just requires an additional meal.
Cutting is more challenging for me because I have such a big appetite, but it gets easy after a few weeks of hardcore discipline. Then I'm spending even less time with food.
Guess we're all just built differently.

>>212484285
>when you got raise to 11$ per hour

>>212482718 (OP)
Because all movies are made by scrawny jews who were bullied in school by jocks.

>>212482718 (OP)
>every single one takes one look at him and they ignore him
lol rip

>>212484780
Around a third of that should be protein. Many aren't so used to eating that much lean meat and protein shakes. Then you feel so full but gotta cram in a bunch of carbs and fat too

>>212483644

>>212484780
I get about 3k calories a day in just heavy cream because I run a tile warehouse...I only weigh 120lbs.

>>212482718 (OP)
Because they usually are.

>>212484404
Steroids are safe. Stop believing Jewish lies

>>212484862
Nigger like 2lbs of chicken breast alone will make you hit well above your protein needs for like 1.5k calories. Even less if you're a dyel. Otherwise supplement with 1-2 whey shakes. Get the weight gainers if you need more calories. Raw eggs is also a good strat for easy protein.
Then you can effortlessly add fats and carbs to round everything out.
This isn't that hard man.

Christ, listening to the advice people are giving here make me glad we don't live in early 2010s fitness youtube or forums. Just completely misinformed faggots who most likely grew a little over the years despite their shitty habits and under/over training.

>>212485028
>t. Tel Aviv steroid manufacturer

>>212482718 (OP)
>that scene with Hal leading the body builders from Malcolm in the Middle.

It's for the female gaze, I love a good buff retard.

because stereotypes make fun movie tropes.

>>212484342
>Your quivering lanklet hands can't control the recoil of your pink tipped, 90 grain, light powder load .38 special and you miss, allowing me to wrestle you to the ground and fart in your mouth.

>>212485104
You’re supposed to eat poop and lift as heavy as you can find within a 50 foot diameter.

>>212484404
Most actors do steroids periodically to prep for movies with shirtless scenes. It's easier to do a 3 month cycle than it is to lift hard continously while shunning the hollywood party lifestyle.

You think Bale was able to gain 31kg of muscle in 1 year naturally? If you do your IQ is under 80

>>212485028
Safe with an asterisk.
One cycle will make you into a pharma pay pig for life. Your body stops producing natural testosterone after you do a cycle. After that, you'll need to take TRT from there on out.
Some guys will bounce back to normal, but they certainly won't be as big/shredded as they were on gear. It all comes down to genes. Some guys just aren't meant to be huge

Summoning Ellie

>>212485104
Always funny to see retards like you grandstand about everyone else's opinions while never actually sharing their own.
Pussy.

>>212484342
I'm not too worried since the revolver in your pic has no cartridges in it.

>>212484342
Are you the same retarded tranny that was arguing on /pol/ about muscles being useless or are there just a thousand of you faggots now?

>>212485186
Is this you?

>>212484239
lol defend your woman from what? Do you live in a nigger spic ghetto and date a squatemalan? You defend your woman in the modern world by not being a poor fag that needs to live around animals

>>212482718 (OP)
Because the people writing the scripts are the neurotic weirdos who were unpopular in school. That's why well-adjusted people in movies always end up being le bad and it's why jocks are le evil.

>>212485306
This is actually evil and if you really want to be a horrible person you can learn how to do this and force people to eat your farts and poop.

>>212485318
There is virtually no community today that is safe from undesirables unless you live in the middle of nowhere.
At least, that's the case in amerikkka, i can't speak for yurop

>>212485252
You just know he's one of the idiots who fell for some fitness/diet meme on instagram

>>212485318
High trust societies no longer exist anon. There's a reason men (and women for that matter) are taking to fitness more and more every passing year. It's survival instinct, and only the fittest will live on.

>>212484398
fingers dont have muscles in them meathead. they're just tendons so it doesnt matter if you exercise them or not really

>>212485104
The advice posted so far ITT lines up with what the majority of professional athletes do, but I'm sure you've got the secret which you purchased from a grifter on facebook for just $39.99

>>212485306
Are you allowed to bite their nuts in this situation?

>>212485318
You never take your woman on holiday outside of guarded all-inclusive resorts?

>>212485104
>YOU'RE KILLING YOUR GAINS
>START DOING THIS
Post the link big guy!

>>212485452
Oh my god it is you. Do you just go on every board and cry about buff men? You wouldn't believe this but there's a whole board dedicated to them, you should go there you'll love it

>>212485058
Yes, and 2lbs of chicken every day is a lot to eat for normal people, dipshit. Unless you're a fatty 300lb blob used to eating just that as a snack.

>>212485463
Depends how you look at it. If the ref can't see it, is it really against the rules?

>>212485212
>One cycle will make you into a pharma pay pig for life. Your body stops producing natural testosterone after you do a cycle.
That's complete nonsense, it will take at least 5+ years on nonstop roids for that
And I'm not saying they don't have risks, but there's no way your body will stop producing test after one cycle or even a full year on roids

>>212485510
2lbs of chicken spread out over 3 meals is piss easy to consume. And mind you, 2lbs is the maximum amount you'd ever need to eat. Your average bloke can get away with 1lb of chicken breast spread out over 3-5 meals along with 1-2 protein shakes and hit his protein intake.
You sound really mad that getting big is not as hard as you think it is.

>>212485508
i dunno what you're talking about fagola.

>>212484404
>he actually thinks most actors are natty

>>212485594
I get that, which is why I followed up with the fact that 1 cycle isn't going to be enough to keep you lean and juicy for life. Once you're off gear, you shrink back to normal natty levels. Unless you supplement with TRT thereafter to keep your T levels elevated enough, cycling once is just wasteful.

>>212482718 (OP)
unless they're black in which case they're a chad and fuck the love interest of the protag or his sister

>>212485689
NTA but he's right. Your natural T production goes back to normal after a 3 month cycle.

Doctors put the "point of no return" for TRT at 12 months, because when you get past that and you stop doing it, then your baseline testosterone levels will be lower than it was before you began treatment. But a 3 month cycle makes zero difference in the long term for 99.99% of men

>>212482877
Why is his head so big

>>212483644
I work out regularly too, and I can tell you that list is a complete load of shit. Nobody needs billions or a cryo chamber to get on Mark's level lol

>>212485771
See >>212485642

>>212484609
>most of my spare time was spent preparing and eating food and shitting
Thats why you prepare meals in advance, dummy.

>>212484285
Look at him go

>>212485727
Sure, if it's a moderate cycle. But again, you miss the point. Why would you even run a cycle if you're just going to go full stop? You don't stay the same size you were while cycling, and you still need to take precautions like PCT to get your body producing natural T again.
My point is a 3 month cycle or whatever is pointless in the long run, regardless of whether its dangerous or not (it isn't and I pointed out that it isn't provided you do jt right)

>>212485790
Yeah, that too. Most, if not all actors are pressed for time and hop on gear so they can start shooting their next film. And yet, they still claim natty

>>212482718 (OP)
because it makes filmmakers with weak bodies feel better about themselves duh

>>212485897
Yeah I dont even blame them. Any guy in their position would do the same. You dont go to hollywood to live like a sober monk

how did this gym obsession become so mainstream? who in the fuck gave a shit about gyms 30-40 years ago?

>>212484285
>SOMEBODY STOP ME

>>212485958
>why do some people want to stay healthy and be able to eat whatever they want without turning into a fat disgusting blob

Truly a mystery

>>212482877
Is this achievable natty?

>>212486020
Normal people don't need to go to a gym, they just move about in their normal lives. I haven't been to a gym once in my entire life and I am still in better shape than 80% of people

>all the gymcels finna sobbing and coping itt
kek based OP

>>212485958
Obesity rates climb with every year. It's a reaction to the problem. People don't want to be obese, so they supplement with the gym.

>>212482718 (OP)
envy

>>212486099
We'll be the judge of that.
Post body.

>>212485958
Action movies, i shit you not.
Schwarzenegger and Stallone.

>>212486099
>Normal people don't need to go to a gym
75% of Americans are obese or overweight, so obviously they do need it, lmao

>>212485306

>>212486099
It's mostly about caloric intake. There are a lot of NEETs out there who've barely moved out the door in 5 years who are skinny. That's because they don't eat at a caloric surplus.

If you are fat and you don't want to go for a jog, you need to eat at a caloric deficit. Jogging just speeds it up by increasing the caloric deficit. It's that simple

>>212486142
I'm not posting my physique on 4chan, especially to a /fit/izen, who are known to all be homosexuals.
>>212486176
Maybe it's because I grew up in a small mountain town, and people are more active here than office working city slickers, but what I am saying is that normal, that is normal weight people, don't need a gymnasium. Just start going on walks or buy a bicycle.
Imagine paying somebody, plus tax plus tip, for the privilege of using your own body. Literally touch grass.

This whole thread reeks of cope.

>>212486176
You don't need a gym to not be fat. Literally just eat less lmao

>>212486325
So fat and/or dyel. Got it.
Now was that so hard?

>>212483447
You got conned by roid trannies. Natties never look that big except by 1950s standards

>>212486176
Do you think being obese and overweight is normal?

>>212486363
If you think that what I am saying is so contentious that it needs to be validated by me showing you what I look like, then you are mind broken and homosexual.
I literally said that normal people don't need a gymnasium, and should just be more active in their daily lives.
If this upsets you, then I recommend touching grass and seeking therapy.

>>212482718 (OP)
because jews tend to be dysgenic short weaklings

>>212485610
>bloke
lol faggot aussie

>>212483829
...did he died??

>>212482718 (OP)
because for a long, long time guys that were really into sports and fitness bullied guys that weren't. they did it to themselves.

I can't comprehend someone being bothered by people enjoying working out as a hobby. Does cooking as a hobby bother you? What about fishing or sports or woodwork? Is it cope to enjoy things now? What is actually wrong with you people?

>>212482877
>Shows his shirtless body off like it's impressive
This retard legitimately had body dysmorphia. Like a reverse anorexia where he sees himself as ripped instead of fat when he's actually sub DYEL.

>>212483978
>just lose your top spot in female attraction bro
No

t. No. 4

>>212486418
When something applies to 75% of people then it is by definition normal

>>212486503

>>212486553
I unironically did that when I was younger and the moment I became number 1 I only got attention from homosexuals

>>212483829
>CrossFit faggotry
the military adopted this shit too

>>212483363
a pathetic display. Swinging legs from the start, pulls up to forehead level with the bar.

>>212486682
Damn, no wonder so many vets are filing for disability

>>212484045
>90 mins
skill issue. You only need 20mins a week for lifts. The rest is walking for cardio

>>212486450
Being not fat doesn't require a gym, yes.
But larping that you're some adonis from just walking is what's contentious.

>>212486026
It's only achievable natty

>>212482718 (OP)
cause it's true, like 90% of the time.
Watch Conan and tell me Arnold doesn't sound like a retard.

>>212482877
You can feel the butthurt flowing through him.

You know at some point he actually tried to get jacked and couldn't so he went the other way and acted like it was a choice.

>>212486729
>20 mins a week
t. dyel

>>212486748
>dude i swear it's true, go watch this movie where a guy with an IQ of 135 plays a retarded character

>>212486797
Like 99% of vegan men were just thirsty incels who figured it gave them an edge with a lot of women

>>212482718 (OP)
>pencil neck tries to prove meatheads are violent retards
>instead proves he's a petty bitch who deserved every single wedgie and swirlie he still seethes over 15 years after graduating high school

>>212486701
in Basic in Canada we had to jump on that stupid box as part of our PT class (gym class). So much stupid shit, like circuit training too, I hate it. It's yoga for men

>>212486748
His steel speaks for him

>>212486729
You forgot to add the supplementary meth, Mike.

>>212486818
trained to failure dummy. All you need is to stimulate muscle growth and you're golden

>>212486950
Meth was for binge working. Roids is what him and every single body builder do

>>212486954
>trained to failure dummy.
That's every exercise in the gym, are you dense?

>>212486503
Because it's obvious you don't enjoy it. You do it because you're insecure and need validation. Going to the gym to look bigger or better is the height of faggotry. If you do it as part of another sport for maximizing performance then that's different but otherwise it's truly pathetic.

>>212486729
This sounds promising. Post your 20 minutes routine, I'm a complete newbie.

>>212482974
>kelsey grammer:"GOOD HEAVENS LORD"

>>212487070
>it's obvious you don't enjoy it.
What gave that away?
Genuinely curious, no hate.

>>212487070
working out literally gives you happy chemicals, people absolutely do it to feel good

>>212487070
You're projecting your own insecurities onto everybody else and your inability to understand how someone can enjoy something that you don't enjoy also proves something else

>>212487070
Let me guess, you wear cargo shorts and a band tee and neglect hygiene because fashion/looking good is also pathetic?

>>212483439
>but also if you think back to school, the smartest nerds were rarely athletic

>>212487070
Hahahahahaha fatty is getting uppity!

>>212485766
He has the bones of a big guy but not the muscles.

>>212487070
t. this guy

>>212487209
>rarely athletic
what was your point?

>>212487070
Tell us what you enjoy doing anon.

>>212483363
He was doing it for charity you heartless monster.

>>212487209
Nerds usually start lifting after they obtain success though. And it's not because they're insecure like this >>212487070 idiot claims, but because being fit makes life better in so many ways

>>212483735
Let's face it, you're actually like 6.

>>212487070
I will concede that working out isn't fun. But you know what else isn't fun? Looking in the mirror and seeing a fatso/dyel staring back at you.
I lift because I want to like how I look.
Maybe other anons have their own reasons, but that's mine, honest to God.

>>212483735
Number 10 reporting in

>>212482718 (OP)
and if they are not retards they are gay. kek jewish subversion

>>212487358
he did jiu jitsu in the 90s before the Ferrari

I'm 6'6 strength training is a lost cause for me

Because the brain uses a high percentage of your body's energy. If you have a big body, there's not much energy left for the brain and you think slower than average.

>>212487070
Delicious bait. Well done fatsokun.

>>212483735
Why are the bf percentages all over the place? Many are wildly inaccurate.

>>212482824
fpbp. /thread

>>212487438
Meanwhile in reality, every study done on this concludes that weightlifting improves cognitive function

>>212487613
anon...

>>212487613
As it turns out, #10 is peak performance at ~9%bf.

>>212487613
it's not bf percentage, but percentage of women who rated it as the most attractive body

>>212487390
#2, standing by

>>212487659
>chatgpt
grim

>>212487881
>thinks i'm going to waste my time finding proper sources to refute mom science on 4chan

>>212487659
I think any physical exercise has that effect more or less

>>212487358
he almost certainly rarely lifts and this picture was probably completely set-up as a one time thing just to go around the papers/media.

bezos is just a TRTboomer, his wife divorced him so he turned around and got some latina escort in her place and did this, all the rich jew lizards started to cultivate this "alpha chad" image at the same time because the "fake humble corporate head" was called out for a while and zuck was made fun of for being a robot sperg.
zuck also all of a sudden started showing up at UFC events and got ripped and started wearing a zoomer necklace, trained with israel adesanya and volkanovski and does BJJ now.

>>212482877
Yeah guy is spitting truth that any real ones know about… when some fat 18-year-old first starts going to the gym they pack on the protein fucking chicken McNuggets whey protein taco taco bullshit diet which only serves to make them even doughier…

Actual athletes know it’s all about glucose and carbs. Bread and apple juice. Pasta and chocolate milk.

>>212487070
The post that destroyed /fit/

>>212487070
Completely correct. Nobody actually enjoys exercising at the gym.
Thought experiment for gymcels
>you go to the gym
>you lift
>nothing about you changes whatsoever
>you can't get bigger and you can't get ripped
>you can only increase the amount of weight you can lift, otherwise you look like your normal self if you never touched a weight in your life
Would you you still go to the gym? The answer obviously "no" which is why lifting as a "hobby" is just embarrassing. The other anon mentioned cooking as a hobby, so let me ask another hypothetical: what would you think about a person who loves cooking as a hobby to the point where they walk around everywhere in a chef's hat and with a spatula in their belt loop? Yeah you'd think they're an insecure faggot. And that's literally how every normie sees gymcels.

>>212485306
BJJ is the gayest sport ever invented

Because these movies and tv shows were written by men without muscles.

>>212488499
This is literally me. I go to the gym and nothing about me changes, which is my goal. I eat and drink as much garbage as I want and yet I dont get fat. You know why? Because I go to the gym. Fuck off

>>212485958
Gyms were invented in ancient Greece, it's not a Jewish conspiracy to sell you gym memberships.

Did a vegan janny delete all the vegan posts? lmao

>>212488776
/fit/ tranny janny had a fit that people were making fun of gymcels

>>212482718 (OP)

>>212482718 (OP)
Bevcause they actually are. To get huge muscles you need to spend hours in the gym, take drugs, and eat boring food all the time, and you need to continue that forever. Smart people know that it's a waste of time wheras dumb people do that because they think people care about that.

>>212488993
But that's clearly untrue, the archives proves as much. It was just meatheads arguing over lifting optimization.

>>212489583
This was already settled before janny deleted half the thread. 45 minutes 3 times per week is more than enough and most gym-goers don't turn it into an obsession