Thread 212513998

The only Superman who makes sense

>dude, what if Superman was evil
What if, man. What if.

>superheroes but.... le bad
is the faggotiest most reddit most rick and morty most soi concept in all of modern goyslop

>>212514009
Nah, more like "what if a living god had a human nature instead of fantasy level moral perfection"

>>212513998 (OP)
That's Ant-Man

>>212514009
>Murican hero
>Not ripping off children's heads and drinking their blood

This is the real american way and you know it

>>212514039
Homelander doesn't have a "human nature" he's an over the top edgy retard written by a shock jock hack writer

an actually realistic Superman would be that nigga in Megamind who just got too depressed and quit

>>212514039
>human nature is to eat babies and murder everyone you see
Metroman from Megamind is a more realistic result of what your average person would do if they had Superman powers.

>>212514066
He's exactly what I imagine a human would be like after dealing with the shit he dealt with. But the shit he dealt with was also written by Ennis, who I admit is pretty disgusting-souled.

>>212514039
>moral perfection
like what, be a decent person? you fuckin degenerate retard, go back to you 3d world jungle to rape your sister, you ape

>>212514099
Holy melty

>>212514111
i would laser your balls if i were superman

>>212514009
>What if Superman - but EVIL!
>but he doesn't actually have agency and just does Jack Shit with his God powers besides engaging in petty drama

>>212514066
>>212514070
based Metromind. 99.9% of people who got Superman's powers would just quit. "his real power is muh optimism and will" is corny but also true.

>>212514099
>be a decent person
>accidentally sneeze the empire state building out of existence
You're a brainlet

>BRO LIKE IF PEOPLE, LIKE IF PEOPLE HAD SUPERPOWERS BRO, THEYD PROBABLY USE IT TO DO BAD SHIT
Duh

>>212514009
More like what if superman was a piece of shit but not really evil but got gaslit into thinking he was evil

>>212514217
>not really evil
he was running around raping and murdering everyone well before he got gaslit. the gaslighting just made him worse.

>>212514161
>>(((accidentally)))

>>212514247
I don't care if the owner had it insured against super sneezes mere months ago

I'd do bad shit, you'd do bad shit. Sometimes good. The whole superhero but evil thing so boring and stale. I even liked homelander until I found out he's basically The Joker for that show and Fandom.

I was pissed

>>212514273
holy kek

>>212513998 (OP)
Why does Superman always land in the US? Why didn’t they have several Kryptonians land in different countries and make a story out of that? Like imagine if fucking Ethiopia got a supe and he somehow didn’t starve to death and made a united Africa his own personal fiefdom?

>>212514059
Is this just some schizo-poster? Or do we legitimately have an Achmed posting from his cave ITT?

>>212514346
One of his famous alternate universe stories is one where he lands in Russia during the Cold War and is raised to be a loyal commie. There's also the Timm movie where he's picked up by literal Mexican immigrants crossing the border.

>>212514346
>Why didn’t they have several Kryptonians land in different countries and make a story out of that?
There are literally several "What If?" stories based around alterations to Superman's upbringing, included the geographic location his pod landed in. Probably most famously in Red Son.

>>212514386
You understand jews are hated, right? It's virtually universal at this point.

>what if we took the silly action comedy comic books for children
>the ones about silly dudes who fly around in colored underwear and animal costumes to beat up other silly dudes who dress up like goblins and robots
>what if we took that
>and we made it
>DARK AND GRITTY
I'm so fucking bored of this. If it only happened once or twice it might be novel but we've gotten to the point where people actually expect you to pretend like capeslop is serious and mature. It isn't and it never will be. It's fundamentally children's media. When the comic book industry forgot this, people stopped buying comics. You'd think they'd have realized this at some point and turned back but instead they just keep pushing in the "adult" direction and the result is more and more cringey and gay with each passing moment.

>>212514435
No theyre not. Not everyone lives their lives listening and believing crackpot conspiracies. This is why the media makes fun of you all the time.

>>212514443
Exactly, gore, cussing, sex, drug use, what ever bullahit they pack in there isn't "mature". If anything its more juvenile because it enables shitty writing.

>>212514435
I mean, maybe in whatever third-world armpit you grew up in, but no, in the Civilized, Modern Western World open hatred for other people based on nothing more than their genetic background is not considered remotely normal, let alone "universal".

>>212514453
Your delusions do not inform reality

>>212514443
based knower

>>212514405
Red Son was pure kino. One of the only good capeshit stories.

>>212514443
>IT'S FOR CHILDREN IT'S FOR CHILDREN IT'S FOR CHILDREN IT'S FOR CHILDREN IT'S FOR CHILDREN IT'S FOR CHILDREN WAAAAAAAH
Who are you trying to convince here, faggot? Everyone else, or yourself? You sound DEEPLY insecure.

>>212514476
You don't know what reality is.

Me I like variety and people expressing themselves creatively.

>>212514492
That's not his point, how retarded do you have to be to miss it?

>>212514009
Injustice already did that

>>212513998 (OP)
>what if batman was... le bad?!
This is a more interesting premise to be quite desu

>>212514480
>guy applies his generation's zeitgeist filter to yesteryear's slop media
>time passes
>he's now embarrassed that his work had a resonating philosophical impact despite being transient in nature
Alan Moore needs to pull his head out of his ass, that or someone needs to stop giving him a microphone.

>>212514492
Look at any collection of vintage comic books. What you'll find is a series of well-executed, light-hearted action comedy stories, things like Spider-Man cleaning up the Sandman with a vacuum cleaner. They're well-done children's stories, which may be enjoyed by people of all ages. This is the fundamental nature of comic books, and the basic premise of a superhero in a silly costume lends itself best to this type of story. Shit like The Soys asks you to take a silly concept like superheroes seriously, it's a poorly-executed adult's story which can't be enjoyed by anyone, or at least anyone with a modicum of taste.

>>212513998 (OP)
...in the mind of edgy 12 year olds.

>>212514480
Alan Moore himself said he had hoped for a more dark and gritty superhero film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3rCvyiISA

>>212514563
My mum got me the nemesis graphic novel from a charity shop without realising what it was when I was 9-10, blew my mind.

>>212514443
>>212514471
>>212514480
>NO, GUYS, REALLY, I'M SUPER MATURE AND ONLY CONSUME MATURE SLOP FOR MATURE SLOP-ENJOYERS SUCH AS MYSELF
Stories about individuals with super-human abilities is not only a sub-genre of science-fiction just like any other sub-genre of science-fiction, but it predates science-fiction itself.
Stories focusing on the fantastical exploits of a righteous, moral-paragon of a hero with super-human abilities is arguably the single oldest & most universal kind of story that even exists.
Superman is literally to 20th Century Western Society what King Gilgamesh was to ancient Sumeria. Do you unironically think that what we now call "ancient mythology" WASN'T the """capeslop""" of the civilizations that produced it?

>>212514517
>That's not his point

>>212514443
>people actually expect you to pretend like capeslop is serious and mature. It isn't and it never will be. It's fundamentally children's media.
????

>>212514570
Ive seen people say that Rhe Boys is supposed to be self aware that its a parody and ripping on the people that like that shit. I don't think so, but I can kind of see it.

>>212514663
>biblically accurate superheroes

>>212514687
>schizo non-response
Why does the collective IQ of this board keep dropping?

>>212514663
>>212514680
Morons

>>212514722
See: >>212514711

>>212514711
Because you said some stupid shit.

I'm glad none of you guys are in charge, life would be a boring quagmire

>>212514711
Your approximation of superheroes as contemporary greek gods is well-trodden territory. Your post reads as if you think you're breaking ground.

>Some people are decent people and some people are assholes who just want to be assholes
Homelander, Hancock and Superman can all end up how they end up. They're all different edges of humanity and being endeared with great powers doesn't really have an impact on your moral code Clark Kent in some ways grew up an ideal character plenty of people have his same moral fiber. When an old lady leaves her purse on the bus or guy leaves his wallet on a bench do you go "Fuck yeah, she looks like she carries cash" or do you go "Hey ma'am, your purse"

what if superman, but hes gonna do something bad next! okay there was another bad guy we had to focus on BUT NEXT SEASON he'll be bad for real
dude he killed someone in the first season bro be patient, we promise this'll be the season the plot progresses bro

>>212514066
A realistic superman would act like the average selfish egocentric normie.
It would rape women, kill anybody who defies him and make the world hell, retard.

>>212514238
Lies, homelander never raped anybody.
Killed? No.
He was just lazy and jerk like anybody with powers

>>212514408
this movie had so much potential when he was doing superhero shit b4 the movie girlbossed him to shit

>>212514066
The most realistic superman so far was Handcock... and indifferent tempermental drunk

>>212516069
why dnt u just ask me to post my hand to check my skin color u racist

>>212516410
... whose powers stop working when he is near a PAWG that was built in the test tube next to him.

>>212516441
u know what they say , a pawg is a black mans kryptonite

>>212514070
>human nature is to eat babies and murder everyone you see

Homelander does not do that. I'd say you're a retard who didn't even read the comic, but the comic is hot trash so I dunno. Homelander was one of the better characters in it, along with Butcher. Sad what they did to the latter in the show.

>>212514066
>>212514097
>Ennis
I've got bad news. Ennis wrote Superman to be an immigrant.

>>212514059
Jewish WAY. Asshole.

>>212514009
>>212514025
>he's bad
ok bro sure

>>212514187
I wonder how Poison Ivy is these days

>>212516572
Ennis and Mark Millar, might love to write edgelord shit, but they understand Superman and what that character stands for.

>>212518052
Neither one would agree with this page now.

>>212513998 (OP)
Here, fixed your post

>>212520043
>edgelord villain kills London because he's so edgy
>99% of the corpses are white because it was written in the 90s by a guy who's cultural reference points are stuck in the 70s.
It's the subtle things you notice.

>>212513998 (OP)
>what if super super heroes were evil and made by evil company to sell merchandise.
>also somehow the don't have any control about them, despite having the resource and scientific ability to create such superpowers just because OK?

>>212514039
>human nature
He acts like a nigger, that's not human at all.

I don't even want to use the word "realism" to describe it but am I the only one who likes Homelander's depiction because it invites so much less power level autism?

>yes he can fly faster than sound
>no he can't fly faster than light

>yes he can bench press a car
>no he can't bench press a continent

>yes an AK-47 just bounces off him
>no if he got shot by a tank it would hurt him

>yes he can punch through concrete
>no he can't punch through the earth's mantle

It's clearly something that was always in Ennis's mind back to the comics, a dude with "the strength of 10 men" is pretty impressive but also not that impressive compared to a Panzer

>>212514531
>after being brainwashed to kill his pregnant wife superman becomes evil
Injustice was so bad, just an excuse so they punch each other

>>212520207
they do in the comic, i havent seen the show though.

>>212520207
>>212522127
Compound V is shit, even for its intended purpose. Half of all people exposed to it just die immediately and most of the other half get lame/useless/disfiguring powers

The comic explicitly says that out of thousands of supes, Homelander, Maeve, Noir and Stormfront were the only V subjects who ever even turned out physically "right," which struck me as odd because I'd think Starlight met the criteria too but I guess she's too weak

Vought doesn't entirely understand how Compound V works themselves, and they gacha roll that shit

>>212514066
That or they end up like pic rel eventually

>>212514443
What's next? Pokemon?