Italians were the best filmmakers - /tv/ (#212521583) [Archived: 641 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:16:05 PM No.212521583
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I love Italian movies so much. What are some good ones I should check out. Bonus points if Ennio Morricone soundtrack
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:20:44 PM No.212521719
>>212521583 (OP)
Why do I love women that look a little scary?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:22:40 PM No.212521773
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YlDvw8INg0M
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:23:49 PM No.212521807
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>>212521583 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:25:01 PM No.212521833
>>212521773
Why are the lyrics "Suspiria" when the movie isn't Suspiria it's Inferno
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:25:48 PM No.212521855
>>212521583 (OP)
Antonioni is the best Italian director but he my seem too obscurantist for an unprepared viewer. Start with Fellini, he's the right combination of accessible and sophisticated.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:26:03 PM No.212521859
>>212521807
I've had this downloaded for a while. Should I take the plunge and watch?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:26:08 PM No.212521866
>>212521583 (OP)
anything by Mario Bava
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:28:05 PM No.212521925
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>>212521719
For me, it's Rose
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:29:08 PM No.212521967
>>212521866
Bay of Blood was really good. Blood and Black Lace was disappointing
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:30:58 PM No.212522046
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>>212521967
Blood and Black is gr8 m8. Although his best is The Whip and the Body
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:35:52 PM No.212522196
anything Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:36:30 PM No.212522215
>>212521967
>>212522046
Huhh??

Bay of Blood might be one of his worst.

Blood & Black Lace is peak.

In between I would put Hatchet for the Honeymoon, Black Sabbath, Baron Blood.

The Whip & The Body is okay. Kill Baby Kill is okay.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:53:05 PM No.212522754
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>>212521583 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 7:54:04 PM No.212522794
>>212521925
why
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:02:33 PM No.212523065
>>212521583 (OP)
Hard carried by Fellini.

>>212521855
I feel like everything Antonioni wanted to say was done more succinctly in a few scenes of La Dolce Vita.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:07:39 PM No.212523232
Best italian directors are Pasolini and Antonioni, no cap.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:11:15 PM No.212523341
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:13:41 PM No.212523405
>>212523232
Okay I will watch Salo
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:18:37 PM No.212523538
>>212523405
Based, but be aware that Salo doesn't represent his other films in any way, shape or form.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:26:22 PM No.212523743
Petri never made a bad movie
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:47:29 PM No.212524333
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First of all I love whores!

Secondly, was I filtered by Antonioni with La Notte?

I could enjoy and apreacite L'Avventura but with this one I got the feeling it never even begins.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:49:05 PM No.212524380
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:49:17 PM No.212524387
>>212524333
His best film is L'eclisse, but also check out Blowup, which is probably the most accesible of his classic films. Many are filtered by his slow pacing; give it time.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:50:49 PM No.212524431
>>212521583 (OP)
Mater Tenebrarum and Mater Lachrymarum were my first crushes and IDK how the fuck they somehow ended up being in the same movie.

Inferno did something to me.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:55:54 PM No.212524579
>>212523743
who?
do you mean Pietro Germi?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:55:54 PM No.212524580
>>212521583 (OP)
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
Caliber 9
The Italian Connection
Thr House with Laughing Windows
Don't Torture a Duckling
Il Seme dell'Uomo
all the 70s and 80s Dario Argento's films
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:56:15 PM No.212524586
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>>212524333
>I got the feeling it never even begins
It's about their dead marriage and the lengths they both go through to not acknowledge it. The movie is at the end of this scenario.
The same rumination on bourgeoisie existence as pretty much any Italian neorealist at the time. Actually, I fail to see how you perceive any differently than L'Avventura.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:56:55 PM No.212524608
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>>212524580
for me, it's Totรฒ
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 8:58:12 PM No.212524636
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:00:17 PM No.212524703
>>212521583 (OP)
>All the Colors of the Dark
>Amarcord
>A Bay of Blood
>The Bird with the Crystal Plummage
>Black Sunday
>The Conformist
>Django
>Gomorrah
>The Gospel According to Matthew
>The Great Silence
>The House by the Cemetery
>Inferno
>A Lizard in a Woman's Skin
>La Notte
>Rabid Dogs
>Red Desert
>Roma
>Rome, Open City
>Satyricon
>Il Solengo
>Toby Dammit
>Torso
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:02:01 PM No.212524746
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I'm tired of pretending 90s Argento was bad
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:03:14 PM No.212524789
>>212524579
nta, but Elio Petri probably
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:06:29 PM No.212524890
>>212524586
I know what it's supposed to be about but it literally has no plot.

Avventura at least pretends it has one even if both film and characters ignore it, it's still a great excuse to move the story forward, none of the things that happen would have happened if they didn't pretend they're still looking for Anna.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:07:43 PM No.212524925
>>212521967
to me it's the opposite
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:07:44 PM No.212524926
>>212524890
Not having a plot is irrelevant, anon. Appreciate aesthetics without needing a justification for them to exist in the first place.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:09:46 PM No.212524989
>>212524789
ah, sure
not a fan of the 10th Victim tho
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:13:57 PM No.212525117
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>>212524890
>literally has no plot
First two Antonioni films?
Nothing is happening in L'Avventura, don't even kid yourself. That's literally his style. Relationship and silent melancholy oozing from every character trying to convey whatever modernist (at the time) bullshit Antonioni cared about. The inherent difference between his movies is how coherently the character actions are laid out.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:18:12 PM No.212525218
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>>212521583 (OP)
this one's not too bad
you lay like the soundtrack
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:19:30 PM No.212525257
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Just started watching Django
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:20:58 PM No.212525310
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>>212523232
pasolini is a gay faggot and Salo is shit. it's just gross-out filth intended to be so disgusting it normalises anything else by comparison and so normalises homosexuality.

deliberate violations of the natural order of decency like this are inherently homosexual , as you can see from for example Marquis de Sade's 120 days of Sodom

deliberate violations of the natural order of decency like this are inherently homosexual
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:23:09 PM No.212525370
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>>212525117
antonioni BTFO
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:23:10 PM No.212525371
a few years ago I started romping through Argento , Bava and Fulci's filmographies.

It was the same kind of thrill I had when I first discovered Korean cinema. Something so new and fresh and fun and different.

I should continue consooming 70s-90s Italian cinema
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:24:10 PM No.212525409
>>212525370
>Bel regista, Antonioni. Bel film. Io ci ho dormito...'Na bella pennica
he's not wrong
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:24:44 PM No.212525425
>>212525371
Have you explored HK/Taiwan cinema yet?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:25:40 PM No.212525458
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>>212525310
he has non-gay films ,ya know
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:27:09 PM No.212525491
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>>212521807
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:28:52 PM No.212525546
>>212525425
a little bit. the comedies don't really gel with me. definitely some great stuff there too.

I made a list a while ago of ones I wanted to watch based on the trailers looking great but found it very hit and miss and gave up.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:29:51 PM No.212525574
>>212525310
Who gives a fuck, his films are straight gas and Salรฒ is a top 10 film of all time.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:31:02 PM No.212525607
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>>212525310
>pasolini is a gay faggot
So how ironic is it that one of the most biblically accurate movies was made by this fruit?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:32:41 PM No.212525655
>>212525546
Try King Hu, Chang Cheh, Chung Sun and Lau-Kar Leung
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:34:46 PM No.212525719
watch Amici Miei to understand italian culture
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:36:01 PM No.212525758
>>212521833
Inferno is part of the three mothers trilogy.
Suspiria, Inferno, and la terza madre.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:36:18 PM No.212525773
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>>212521583 (OP)
you mean: really good ones?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:36:49 PM No.212525788
>>212525310
pasolini hated jewish consooming capitalism
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:37:41 PM No.212525821
>>212525788
And he was also a Propaganda Due secret service secret society fake masonic gay molester so...
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:38:38 PM No.212525850
best filmmakers? i fucking hate anything from fellini and sorrentino
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:39:14 PM No.212525884
>>212525773
go on...
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:40:10 PM No.212525923
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:41:15 PM No.212525954
>>212525821
[source]?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:41:56 PM No.212525976
>>212525821
huh? if anything, he was killed by the US secret services for being a communist figure
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:42:28 PM No.212525996
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>>212524608
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:43:49 PM No.212526040
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>>212525884
i wish i could
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 9:45:39 PM No.212526098
>>212526040
Mamma mia!
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:00:21 PM No.212526550
>>212525117
>Nothing is happening in L'Avventura
That's not true at all in my view, there's a stark difference in the amount of coherence between that film and La Notte.

The first one starts with a clear premise, they're going on a cruise, then the disappearance happens which then turns the the plot into search for Anna, sure this is mostly ignored but it still serves as an anchor to keep the film somewhat grounded at least we know why we are supposedly even watching even if that's being subverted.

In La Notte I waited for well over an hour for at least some direction to be revealed, there was none until around the point where Mastroianni meets his wife returning to the party with the other guy at which point both of them have a diffrent companion by there sides and that's like 15 minutes before the film ends.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:11:59 PM No.212526947
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This is one of my favorites. Corrine is super sexy. Hess' acting is hammy in a good way.

As far as I know, this maybe the only film to show a semi consensual rape while the husband watches on.

Straw Dogs is similar, in that Susan George is not exactly opposed to her attacker, however Hoffman is off screen hunting or some shit.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:13:20 PM No.212526992
>>212526550
>for at least some direction to be revealed
It revealed the moment they leave the hospital. You just didn't pay attention. It's the same degree of character involvement in the entire trilogy. The fact that you think Avventura's search is in anyway the point of the movie basically concludes that you were filtered by it too and didn't even notice.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:27:35 PM No.212527438
>>212526992
>The fact that you think Avventura's search is in anyway the point of the movie
I never said that, I said it was an anchor that kept it grounded as well a Mcguffin that made sense why we are even privy to watch these events and whatever critique Antonioni is trying to make

If you remove these elements you don't even have a film, you have a well edited and filmed documentary
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:28:39 PM No.212527470
>>212521583 (OP)
Cinema Paradiso
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:42:18 PM No.212527912
>>212527438
You focus your assessment of La Notte on the fact that there isn't an "Indiana's holy grail" that the characters are looking for, all the while plainly admitting that you weren't paying attention and it took you up until Lidia almost jumping into cheating on him to comprehend what was movie even about. Nothing clued you in the dialogue, nor in her desperation or clear skulking about the places where they used to be in love. If you remove these elements you don't have the film either. How do you draw the line between scenes in La Notte of husband and wife being emotionally distant with nothing happening and its about death of a relationship and Avventura where two people come to places in search of her and no search is happening because it's about relationship of the characters, I do not understand. The only difference is you not paying modicum of attention to the former.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:47:37 PM No.212529927
>>212524890
>>212526550
There is a plot in La Notte. Their mutual friend is dying and they are going to a party later. There is promise of career advancement for Marcello's character. Did you want a whodunnit premise to stay engaged?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:49:15 PM No.212529970
>>212521583 (OP)
Why is there a green tint? It wasn't there in Inferno. At least I don't think
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:55:22 PM No.212530136
>>212522754
Why hasn't anyone (Tarantino) stolen this?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:15:33 AM No.212530686
>>212521807
Do what?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:24:00 AM No.212530930
>>212527470
Theatrical cut is great. Never watched director's cut but I heard it stinks.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:44:33 AM No.212531532
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>>212525850
Rossellini for dramas revolving social and spiritual issues (Rome Open City, Stromboli, Flowers of St. Francis, Europa '51, Viaggio in Italia) and Monicelli for comedies and tragicomedies (The Organizer, La Grande Guerra, Brancaleone's Army, Brancaleone at the Crusades, I soliti ignoti, I picari)
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:45:00 AM No.212531548
>>212522754
Ugly woman would shoot men in a modern Hollywood reboot.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:50:35 AM No.212531701
>>212530686
It
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:36:20 AM No.212532990
good thread, have a bump
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:41:17 AM No.212533145
>>212521583 (OP)
man if only that demented dago fuckhead had just made Mother of Tears like 4 years later with that chick
She was so fucking pretty
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:46:14 AM No.212533302
>>212521967
Only part of Bay of Blood I remember is the ending, but it is a really kino ending.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:48:42 AM No.212533372
>>212522754
Kino. Name of the film?