Thread 212521963

rewatching GoT after a dozen years and damn, how could anyone stand this annoying bitch? She can't act to save her life. Every scene she's in is basically filler too

We all wanted to clap her plump cheeks.

Millions of American women identified with her, wanted to be her and named their daughters after her.

those caterpillars she calls eyebrows are very distracting

>>212521963 (OP)
I would keep that bitch in my room and rape her every day for twenty years.

>>212522169
because they're single mothers who have to take care of their monstrous rape-spawn?

>how could anyone stand this annoying bitch
WITH MY DICK IN MY HAND

I feel like she got slightly better with each season and the final being her best acted. Unfortunately the show was dogshit then

>>212522361
Emilia is still widely liked here anon. quit while you're ahead.

>>212522169
Millions of American women voted for Hillary Clinton too. What's your point?

>>212521963 (OP)
She's a petulant, annoying, immature retard. Men lust after her, and dismiss all of the unhinged shit she does because she's hot. Brown people worship her and treat her like she's their savior, and she's easily the biggest mary sue in the series, as people love her and trust her for no real reason.

She was a character written by D&D specifically to act as a self-insert for their retard millennial white woman audience, and their clever jew trick worked and got their show millions of views.

>>212522141
You're right

>>212522476
This is why the burning of King's landing was so shocking, but they were ignoring the red flags surrounding the actions of Daenerys.

>>212521963 (OP)
The last season may have been shit but I creamed my pants while I was watching this bitch get killed. She was always the worst character in the show.

>>212522476
>>212522551
>Tywin sacks KL in the backstory
>oh my god what a based trad lord 10/10 character

GRRM himself didn't know what the fuck the point of anything he was doing was.

>>212522551
>This is why the burning of King's landing was so shocking, but they were ignoring the red flags surrounding the actions of Daenerys.
I wasn't shocked at all by it, they were dropping hints that she would go batshit insane since the very first 5 minutes of the first episode.

What they could and should have done though, is dropped hints throughout the series that she was starting to go schitzo. Even George Lucas dropped a couple of tidbits of dialogue throughout episode 2 and 3 before Anakin goes completely evil. Danerys' mental health isn't addressed anywhere besides the first and last episode and it comes off as random and stupid.

>>212522395
>still
Lol. No.

>>212522658
Tywin doesn't have to do anything in particular to make every single scene he's in pure kino. He just sits there, scolds some bitch and it's already a masterpiece

>>212522395
I don’t understand what that has to do with my post

>>212522829
I have severe brain damage from the times when my dad would almost suffocate me by making me deepthroat his cock.

>>212522782
the issue is the values dissonance.
if Tywin can sack KL and get rewarded with his psycho daughter marrying the new King, why is Dany burning KL some kind of out-of-left-field radical move?

I get that GRRM views Tywin as bad and that therefore Dany is also being bad by burning the city, but in-universe it was politically rational, and therefore also legitimate to consider as an option for Dany.

if show Dany had actually had a council scene where she had suggested to (whore murderer) Tyrion and (child slaver user) Varys that she could just burn the city, it would have been out-of-character for them to react like Western liberals and be horrified, even if they argued against it. GRRM kinda forgot that he was writing about characters who are aware of realpolitik.

>>212522829
I probably thought I was replying to the OP.

>>212522551
>shocking
King's Landing was a hellhole of corruption and vice, why is it being destroyed portrayed as a bad thing?

>>212521963 (OP)
she was a cute monke for season 1, walled already before season 2 began

>>212523014
About the Tywin stuff I think it's mainly because we never see him doing those abject, evil things, and they happened decades in the past. How he treated Tyrion and his little wife was probably one the worst deeds ever committed in the story but you never actually witness any of it so it's hard to associate Tywin to it

>>212523194
? I don't get it

i usually don't call anyone WALLED but in her case it's the truth
she was very cute in S1 and became progressively uncuter with every season

>>212521963 (OP)
Stroppy little cunt isn't she - all this happened because she had no father figure and her brother failed to step up to the plate and put her in her place when he had the chance. He was too soft on her and too much of a fag.

>gets her unsullied army for free
>gets the seconds sons' army for free
>conquers 3 cities without any losses AT ALL
>spends 2 entire seasons in Mereen doing nothing

her entire "arc" between S2 and the end is so fucking TRASH man

>>212521963 (OP)
Yeah, she's a poor actress. Part of it I blame on the directing, but only a part, I've seen her in other shit and she's just not talented.

>>212523014
the sack wasn't rational in-universe either, rational people saw it as excessive and horrible

>>212523392
Yeah, even in the books the Unsullied arc is shite. She gets a magic unbeatable army for nothing, and there is no downside to her violating guest right by murdering her hosts.

>>212521963 (OP)
We didn't

>>212522395
>widely

>>212523488
Are guest rights even a thing in sandlands? Anyway, I'm not the biggest fan of Dany's plot either, mainly because her supporting cast sucks and she's so divorced from the meat and potatoes of the series.
>ruling is hard
>reforms are hard and time consuming
>desert people are fucking animals
We know Dany, we fucking know.

>>212523566
Fat Emilia. The greatest project that failed.

>>212521963 (OP)
in an age where feminazis rule, i'll take any mediocre looking cunt over a pointy glasses wearin bitch with a man jaw anyday

>>212523194
how does she look so good here? but then hit the wall so quick?

>>212523764
The wall and twink death are basically the same thing. People with soft, childlike features age more roughly than people with strong or sharp features.

>>212522141
FpBP. Khalassi had the best ass I've ever seen. My fantasy is to have those plump cheeks smother me to death

>>212522361
i agree. i thought she was pretty good throughout the whole show. she was annoying at times but i think that was due to the writing.
what's so weird is how horrendous she is in literally everything else. i saw that one holiday movie she did and it was like she had never acted before.

>>212523014
Are you retarded?

>>212523338
>>212523764
She almost died, stupid faggots. You harassed her so much her brain almost exploded twice. Leave Melia alone!

>>212523194
This proves that resting bitch face is really just women being pretty and unachievable. She has that same stupid look on her face in the other seasons but doesn't look like a bitch

>>212523125
>>212523457
it's a question of how the audience perceives Dany burning a city.

I'm saying the characters in the story literally wouldn't view burning a city as something completely unthinkable because that's what happens and has happened in their actual lives by leaders that then went on to be viewed by (enough) people as Wise and Just.

D&D and GRRM literally just seem to have forgotten or not accounted for that in how they motivated characters towards the end of the story. "Dany goes mad" is only a plot point if characters in the story would see her burning a city as something inherently insane.

>>212524149
*it's NOT a question of how the audience percieves Dany burning a city

fuck

>>212524149
But that's wrong, because even with the context of ASOIAF cities in Westeros aren't typically sacked during war, and everyone views the sack of KL as something evil that contributes to Tywin's deadly reputation

>>212524149

Does *anyone* who isn't a Lannister *ever* describe Tywin as Wise and/or Just? Serious question.

>>212522706
>dropping hints that she would go batshit insane since the very first 5 minutes of the first episode
what was the hint in the first episode? do you mean the scene where we see her butt?
i don't think there were ever "hints", her whole character was "i'm going to kill my enemies with my dragons". the problem was that every time she did that it was framed as a heckin girl power moment where the good guys won. in the last season they had to have varys spell it out and then the next episode she went sicko mode.

>What they could and should have done though
i think what the show really failed at was conveying the idea that the war was absolutely horrific for all the commonfolk, which is a major theme of the books. it did it sometimes, but not enough. the show had to have epic battle scenes where the good guys win, so it didn't fit.

>>212524149
Tywin's funeral was a miserable affair, and everyone swooped down on his "legacy" before his body was even cold. Tywin was viewed as "wise" and "just" by a select few. And most of them were his blood.
Secondly, sacking a city isn't the same as nuking it. 500 dead people vs 500000.
>>212524331
Literally just Pycelle.

>>212524149
People saw Dany as a character whose main fault was trying to do good things and basically getting fucked by the universe for it. That her prime motivation is an absolutely abhorrent need to conquer others because she considers herself their superior by birthright is something that most viewers simply missed.

>>212521963 (OP)
chills


https://youtu.be/HokTRybGjCo?list=PLJgOxfMYfwZjNUwtST9zQ9iRoyk3d67Kn&t=1397

>>212524410
>simply missed
i think they missed it because it was written poorly
>she considers herself their superior by birthright
i think the show made this seem like it was true and Actually A Good Thing. We all believed show dany would be a benevolent dictator because every scene with her was about how amazing and strong she was.

>>212522476
>She was a character written by D&D
Are you retarded? she's extremely similar in the book. D&D just made her older because they didn't wanna have a 14 year old marry a warlord in the first episode like the book does

>>212524674
this, if anything book Dany is even dumber

>>212521963 (OP)
Everyone sane called out that the actress and character sucked the entire time, but they were labelled virgins who hated women.
I remember posts in Season 2 and 3 explaining how she was a psycho and wondering why people liked her.

>>212524674
Book Dany isn't so smug. She wants to do good, but doesn't know how, and she's aware of that fact. This is a weakness that the Green Grace exploits.

>>212524845
she follows the exact blueprint of the book up until about season 3/4. I don't think it was some ploy from those 2 jews. the show was crazy popular whilst dany was stuck in a desert. It used to be a common joke to piss break during her scenes.

>>212523014
Retard showfag lol. Grrm didnt write the show, d&d did.
Sacking=killing the army and resisting men and looting and a bit of rape. Tywin did it to show loyalty to bobby b. dany burning the city was a pointless massacre

>>212524951
I'm not saying they wildly deviated from her basic plot. Just that the characters themselves are fairly different. D&D Dany is smug, deadset, and deadpan, GURM Dany is always struggling with doubt and swinging around like a pendulum when deciding how to approach an issue.

>>212521963 (OP)
I found her sexually attractive

>>212524845
And the whole point that D&D missed is that she is the villain, but it's not black and white Lord Sauron type of evil. GRRM wanted the reader to sympathize with the villain and see things from their side, even root for them before the rug pull. However, Dany's actual push towards villainy wasn't supposed to happen at the literal ending. She was supposed to get to Westeros thinking everyone would welcome her like they said, but instead is shunned and feared as a monstrous foreigner and everyone loves Aegon. She resorts to harsher methods to defeat Aegon and subjugate the populace eventually resulting in Jon killing her. They missed that whole arc by not including Aegon.

>>212521963 (OP)
Her sex appeal was probably a massive reason why the show was so immensely popular. Imagine if they started GoT in 2020? You’d have some sexless, shapeless blank slate of a woman in the role that nobody would find attractive and the audience wouldn’t be nearly as engaged or interested

>>212523488
Shes shitting blood because she broke 'guest right'.

>>212525049
these D&D traits ramped up in the later seasons is my point. It wasn't some elaborate plot by the J's, the show was already hugely popular before she did anything worthwhile

>>212524845
She is exactly as smug, but the book has the advantage of inner monologue, which also is something that caused TV people to keep repating the bullshit that she went evil out of nowhere.

>>212524292
No they dont, people generally think it was a tad much at worst, bobby is glad and ned is appalled at the kid killing

>>212522141
this
breed the albino cunny

>>212525219
.

>>212525189
That's wrong, as I said cities are rarely sacked and Tywin's sack isn't seen as good by anyone who isn't a Lannister. Prove me wrong.

>>212525189
There's a reason Tywin wasn't at court until he could come back as a rescuer. He went overboard, and wasn't welcome. The sack also killed any opportunity Cersei could have to be a popular queen. Not that she'd even bother, but still.

>>212525049
In the books dany thinks shes doing the right thing but shes a naive idiot fucking up an entire continent to no ones benefit. (This will lead to madness and denial obv). Show dany is just a shitty yas queen that the show itself never casts doubt on until the abrupt heel turn

>>212525258
>>212525331
Arguing over the sack is the reason ned and bob are estranged showfag. Though notice they werent arguing about the smallfolk, becauee no one cares about peasants lel

>>212525182
She did go evil in the show out of nowhere. Don't even try to act like that was good writing.

>>212521963 (OP)
She's LE ACTING thoughbeit, also the source material was already garbage so what did you expect

>>212522169
Brah i angered a hive of these psychotic wine aunts on twitter a little while ago. They unironically are still defending dany on the basis of muh slavery

>>212525443
>shes a naive idiot fucking up an entire continent to no ones benefit
I kinda think that concept was lost and forgotten in later seasons. People fuck up but it doesn't result in any permanent consequences and they win anyway. Like Cersei's whole arc was showing the wasn't as smart as she thought she was and that she was as bad as the men she despised. She got fat, drunken and gluttonous like Robert. She made tons of really bad decisions. And she was supposed to die for it. Then ta-da she's the supert smart ultraQueen now making the best decisions ever until the end when only a dragon can defeat her.

>>212525443
>Show dany is just a shitty yas queen that the show itself never casts doubt on until the abrupt heel turn

That applies only if you just listen to shitty music and refuse to believe your own eyes. She was a menace, she ruined every place she ever stepped in, including the Dothraki who were shipped off to die in foreign, uncaring land.
Books were explicit about the consequences of her action, but the show was basically an IQ test - anyone who thought that when she left a cutthroat sell sword in charge of thousands of years old city and it is going to be okay and she is a good person, utterly failed that test.

>>212525549
>getting called a showfag by someone whose lore knowledge comes from show's history and lore extras
kek

>>212525553
She spent seven seasons uprooting cultures and civilizations. Maybe actually watch the show.

>>212525605
forsooth vibes

>>212525704
>cultures and civilizations
>sandniggers
pick one

>>212525657
Kike&kike were never transposing the books they never read

>>212525704
>the writing wasn't bad, i'm just smarter than everyone
retard

>>212525664
>she ruined every place she ever stepped in
she used to care about people though.

>>212525664
Media illiterate
>>212525675
Showfag has no argument so it relies on 'no u'. Very sad

>>212523810
Even in straight men being attractive to women it's true though (even though I was never "twinkish"). I was an ugly child, had a brief period of being attractive from 16 - 19 (being sufficiently virilised to be attractive but having "softer" features), and when "second puberty" kicked in and my face massively masculised again, I was actually fuck ugly again. From "boyband" to "grug"

I actually still think I'd choose having a head like an early hominid and being built like a vending machine than slim, gracile-boned, and attractive though; despite it being almost entirely disadvantageous on the average.

>>212524331
Tywin was canonically described as more popular than Aerys when he was Hand, as you'd know if you'd read the books.

after sacking KL he gets everything he wants EXCEPT being Hand again. sacking KL is very much a win for him and his family pays no direct price for it.

but Dany burning KL makes her gigahitler IN GRRM'S EYES. he simply forgot the worldbuilding implications of what he wrote.

i need to do more cumtributes, thnx for reminding me

>>212525929
You are literally retarded

>>212525887
Mate, you're either not reading the text very deeply, or you're a showfag. There's no other explanation to your Tywin glazing. He had a handful of true believers, but pretty much everyone else was just afraid of him. His empire crumbled as soon as he died.

>>212525929
sacking is different from genocide

>>212525929
>Dany burning KL makes her gigahitler IN GRRM'S EYES
It's not his ending. It's D&Ds. In GRRM's potential ending, she's a villain but likely doing far more than just burning King's Landing. Maybe she wants to fly around and burn every single city that rejects her. Whatever it is, it would have made more sense than the silly contrived shit D&D slopped out

>>212525704
>She spent seven seasons uprooting cultures and civilizations.
GRRM chose to depict those civilizations as child-enslaving puppy murderers, and gave us no more reliable alternative viewpoint of Dany's actions (Jorah and Barristan are both insta-loyal).

he really tripped over his own manipulation of the audience: for one character being a war leader is apparently heroic, in another its a sign of encrouching madness.

never mind comparing Dany to Jon or Robert Baratheon, GRRM also gives us Davos as a permafanboy of Stannis who does equally dodgey shit without it making him "mad" or being treated as compromising his rigid moral code.

>>212526042
genocide didn't exist as a concept in medieval times. people let their armies sack cities as an alternative to paying them.

that's the problem. GRRM let his modern morality encrouch on the medieval story he himself chose to wrote. he FORGOT HIS OWN WORLDBUILDING.

>>212526083
I doubt that Dany will be the big bad. She'll probably blow up KL by accident (still going for a high body count, but not THAT high), and seek redemption by fighting the others.

>>212526042
May as well be. Sacking is extremely unpleasant for any resident of the city. The soldiers get in and go hog wild. Beat and kill who they want. Rob and rape who they want. No one is sparred. It's not knock knock hey, we're your friendly new tenants here to have a nice party and you're invited!

>>212526140
just because it wasn't called genocide it doesn't mean that the deliberate mass murder of thousands of people is equivalent to looting

>>212526176
>May as well be
yeah well tell that to the people who survived Tywin's sacking only to be incinerated by Dany, ask them which one of the two is better

>>212525823
She didn't. She was impulsive, aggressive and narcissistic. She routinelly refused to consider any consequences of her own action, that is why she has a team of wise men who basically have to tardwrangle her 24/7 and even then she often disregards them ('20 000 mouths on march' for example).
Her story is basically her deteriorating as she loses her advisors one by one. It's explicit in the book because Fat RR Fuck isn't exactly a subtle writer, but it is also present in lesser form in the show.

>>212526003
Call me when you have a quote or something beyond your blabber

>>212526156
She's definitely one of GRRM's big bads. And Tyrion is supposed to be too. The people of Westeros see her as an evil dark queen with three horrible fire breathing dragons, an army of faceless eunuchs, a horde of savage raping horsemen, and advised by the monstrous disfigured kinslaving psychotic Imp. But she doesn't see herself that way

>>212526192
anon looting ENTAILED the mass murder of thousands of people. even if you ignore direct murder and rap, normal people who lost their homes and means of making a living would be very likely to starve.

all stuff GRRM as a history buff knows. yet he chose to basically only write POVs for characters in the nobility.

>>212526176
You dont know what a sack is.

>>212526344
Then shut the fuck up, naive idiot.

>>212525929
Bruh, stop. Tywin was basically a fellow countryman engaged in usual political struggles, while she is usurper child of insane king, leading foreign army of rapists and uncaring eunuchs.
Even if Tywin 'sacked' the KL, it just means few people killed and few burned and looted houses, while dragon fire vaporises stone.

>>212526268
As if you provided any quotes to back up your arguments. I'm not going to write down the entire Tywin's funeral chapter for you.

>>212526333
beats being burned alive x500000

>>212521963 (OP)
She was okay as meek and mild Dany. As soon as she goes girlboss she’s fucking cringe.

>>212526379
>dragon fire vaporises stone.
actually that's canonically false in the books too. hence Harrenhal being just a bit melted.

>>212526105
>GRRM chose to depict those civilizations as child-enslaving puppy murderers
Yes, he also chose to depict that the moment she fucked off, her puppet rulers were immediately overthrown and even reinstated slavery. Doesn't matter how those civilizations are, she is an agent of chaos.

>>212526156
Its pretty obvious the bittersweet ending grrm describes is winning a joint war against the others but then falling back into le tribalism namely with the necessary killing of dany

>>212524674
>reading books
Go to /lit/ you faggot

>>212526369
You sound like a stupid histrionic jeet woman

>>212526391
Name a single (noble) character who laments the sack re the smallfolk

>>212526156
>doubt that Dany will be the big bad.
She is the Fire part in the Song of Ice and Fire. Seven Kingdom are under mortal threat represented by the mass of uncaring, cold walker and endless winter from one side, and by the burning, cleansing, incendiary flames concentrated in one individual, turning everything in its wake to ashes.
GRM fancies himself subversive, but he is very predictable in a way.
Dany represent fire, how useful it can be when tended by wise men, and how destructive it can be out of control.

>>212521963 (OP)
you will be free once you admit that all HBO shows are like this. even the wire. even sopranos.

>>212526156
no, KL being blown up is the "scouring of the shire" postscript, after the others have been defeated.

its "bittersweet" because GRRM thinks we will be sad that Jon stabbed Dany even though motivating Jon to do that requires either 1) turning Dany into Hitler, or 2) some kind of absurdly silly misunderstanding.

its just stillborn as an idea, that's why GRRM can't finish the books.

>>212524149
>I'm saying the characters in the story literally wouldn't view burning a city as something completely unthinkable because that's what happens and has happened in their actual lives by leaders that then went on to be viewed by (enough) people as Wise and Just.
Gonna need a source on that one, champ.

>>212526233
ok well, i wish they wrote her better in the shows final seasons because it was not satisfying in the end

>>212526470
unfortunatley for GRRM and the story, the early establishing of characters is what shapes audience expectation. if he wanted the readers to perceive Dany as a potential antagonist he needed to do it much earlier than book 4 and leave much less room for misinterpretation.

>>212526748
>even though motivating Jon to do that requires either 1) turning Dany into Hitler, or 2) some kind of absurdly silly misunderstanding.
Dany is already stab worthy in the books. The bittersweet part is about the return to the norm of human condition power seeking etc after.they come together to fight the larger threat

>>212526756
CTRL-F for Tywin. but also Aegon, obviously.

>126 posts and no picrel
Garbage thread
Anyway, here it is

>>212526986
I remember some video or gif of Drogo riding Dany through the universe or something

>>212526889
>everyone in Westeros not dying is actually LE SAD BECAUSE HUMAN RULERSHIP

leaving aside that actually Bran is ruling from his computer, it really exemplifies how GRRM so completely misjudged where this story needed to go, that he managed to find misery porn even in saving the world.

but GRRM does love Dany and DOES think it will be sad when she dies. it's apparent from various subtle cues like how he literally can't stop himself from describing her undressing, bathing, eating, fucking and shitting. the 4chan view of her is not how GRRM sees her, that's why the story is in such a muddle.

>>212527076
Wow youre deranged

Stannisbros... I'm cold...
He's the one true king

>>212526876
Wwll, that's the price of being le hecking subversive on his way to own Tolkien.
GRM is attention whore first and foremost, I won't deny his talent, but he realised too late that his epic endings would be rejected by his fanbase and his reputation would not be outright ruined, but the attention would definitely diminish.

>>212527213
King of what?

>>212527076
That's what he does. He is the posterboy of 'there is no good or evil'.

>>212527285
King of Sacrificing his Own Daughter for Demon of Flame.

>>212523014
>pfft. Nobody would care if she killed millions of people for no reason!

They absolutely would, you retard.

>>212527314
>Omg real morality???!!! Im losing my heckin mind! I need to be babysat with concepts for literal children like good and evil over here!

>>212526542
No, they will fail against the Others and the entire kingdom will freeze. They couldn't stop squabbling and wasting their resources even in the face of armageddon. It'll be one of the biggest cops outs ever if these decade long winters just stop and become le happy. It was one of the entire interesting premises of the series and shaped many of the older characters since they'd seen loved ones freeze and cannabilize each other. The summer children had no clue how bad things could get. Which is why they were so keen to fight each other rather than do anything to make peace and prepare for the coming Winter.

I have never liked this character.

>>212526986
>>212527318
I envy Momoa so much. He got to plap those thick cheeks in her prime. Over and over. Such a lucky dude

>>212527443
>Im losing my heckin mind
I am not the one stuck in writers limbo, unlike George Single R Martin.
>concepts for literal children
Good and evil exists. Muh grey morality is concept for stunted manchildren who want to hide their shitty evilness and cowardice behind 'grey'.

>>212527572
I dunno why you guys pretend that jeetroon is attractive. Nixon was right

>>212527638
Are you going full christ cuck on me with objective morality?

>>212527474
How is that bittersweet

>>212527772
Thousands of years of objective morality vs decades of muh grey niggertry pushed by stunlocked childless hacks like GRM.

>>212527957
Right...2k years of "objective morality" that coincides with the first welfare state and infantilization of men and the formation of slave morality and 10k? Years before that of subjective morality?
Do you realize how much of a joke you are in philosophical terms? Subjectice morality isnt even disputable without failing to understand terms

>>212528128
>first welfare state and infantilization of men and the formation of slave morality

That's what your """grey""" morality brought you.

>>212521963 (OP)
cute and was naked for like half the time in the first season

>>212521963 (OP)
she was okay for the first 2-3 seasons when she didnt have to act beyond being a rape victim. its only when she started having to pretend to have gravitas things got annoying with her. she cant do gravitas she can only do smug.

>>212528204
She had no idea she could say no or push back until Jason told her. She was doing whatever they said, and Jason told her "no sweetie this isn't ok"

>>212528348
wait, fucking jason told her to stop being naked all the time? what a faggot

>>212528195
So the romans should have been christcucks so they would have prevented christianity from forming in the first place? tf are you saying retard

>>212527957
>Thousands of years of objective morality
You guys are so fucking retarded it physically pains me. Crack open a book for once

>>212526748
>>212526156
Aren't the others/walkers like not actually important at all to GRRM and people just over inflate their importance because they were in the opening chapter of the first book?

>>212528454
They havent done much in the books but theyre the main antagonist in terms of westeros.
Besides the opening chapter theres the fist ofnthe first men and sam the slayer bits and a possible eastwatch amphibious assault happening from a letter jon gets

>>212528454
They are important and would be in it more if that fat turd hadn't stopped progressing the story decades ago

The worst is when they had the hammy songs whenever she had a girlboss moment (half of them were when she was fully naked).

>dothraki scenes are "le filler"
Oh my god kill zoomers

Jesus Christ, you dorks are actually arguing about morality in a fantasy series that the author gave up on

>>212528909
What are you talking about anon, only 250 more pages to go!

>>212521963 (OP)
I've watched GoT maybe like 200 times.
I always skip this bitch's scene and i wished there was a version
with her completly cut out

What do you guys think those gen alpha kids with the name Khaleesi are thinking about right now?

>>212527318
>gosh i am so upset by the fact that I'm being railed by prime Jason Momoa

>>212529484
Why dont you just make your own edit? Cutting scenes is really easy on basic software

Oh my sweet summer child, what do you know of bad writing?

Bad writing is for the final episodes, when the characters are deep into their arcs. Bad writing is for the final seasons, when GRRM hides for years and years, and plot holes are born and live and die all in the HBO offices. That is the time of bad writing, my little anon, when Lord Condal and Lady Hess reign supreme.

Several years ago there came a show that enthralled a generation, Game of Thrones. Normies were frozen in front of the TVs in their living rooms, same as the virgins in their basements. Women named their babies Khaleesi, then yelled and cheered as she burned brown people alive.

In that time, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss were unfettered for the first time. They infused the story with teleportation and bad pussy, butchering the Song of Ice and Fire, writing cock jokes with their idea crayons in the left hand while holding their dicks with the right...

>>212521963 (OP)
Girl bosses were aggressively pushed by the media at the time (still are) and Daenerys seemed to fit that image.

>>212522207
Calm down there Josef Fritzl

>>212529745
still dont understand how that bad pussy line became so emblematic of the shows bad writing. or "dany forgot". if the writers want to have the dragon get shot by a javelin out of the air then that's what's going to happen. and innuendo jokes are default jokes for the show.

imo logical issues and characters acting out of character is way more noticable than slly stuff like that

>>212529841
It's more ridiculous and only takes a word/phrase to remind people of the time GOT went to total shit, simple as that. Nobody's going to bust out essays to explain the character assassination of Stannis in order to remind everyone when a word/phrase can do it instead.

>>212529841
>innuendo jokes are default jokes for the show
Theyre tonally out of place and only started in s2 for the most part.

>>212522427
the point is that they are the target audience, not you or me

>>212528449
yo this niggas name is HOMER lamooooooo

>>212530034
that phase of the show (s4) still had oberyn vs mountain, charles dance, joffrey death, so it hadn't gone to shit yet. that only really happened with s7. if you want to pick out shit that absolutely ruins any immersion its gendry running across the frozen wilderness at full sprint and how the 2 remaining seasons in general are nothing but a vignette of some vaguely GoT themed battle scenes and explosions and innuendo jokes. "dany kind of forgot" is much more damning if you want to reference all of that since that's s7 and s8

>>212529609
Too busy watching Game of Thrones to edit.

>>212530544
oh and also jon becoming nothing but a facet of daenerys, which is iconized with the "mah queen" joke

She really was the worst character

>>212525549
???
Robert literally never says the sack was good. Read the books.

>>212525929
You're dodging the question, anon.

I’ll blast cum in her

>>212530590
Jon was always a gormless turd

>>212526650
>stupid histrionic jeet woman
Ah, so Emilia?

I wish Dabid and Deebie didn't have the original pilot sealed away in a clandestine mountain bunker forever. It would be interesting to see what the original Dany's performance was like

>>212524009
I’m going to do it again >:)

>>212530544
>that phase of the show (s4) still had oberyn vs mountain, charles dance, joffrey death, so it hadn't gone to shit yet.
No, bad pussy was S5. S5 was arguably the worst part of the show, because it was both retarded and deathly boring. S7 and S8 are more retarded but not nearly as boring as S5.

Morality is for cuckolds. Real men are based and dirlewanger pulled. Killing, raping, robbing, exploitation, torture, genocide, corruption, ruining other peoples lives and destroying living beings is good and based, the opposite like helping and being kind and nice and charitable is cringe and cucked. Anyone who disagrees is a literal cuck who preps bulls.

>>212530983
Yes, he technically says the killing of the babies is good and no one gives a fuck about the sack at all.

>>212531577
That is a morality...

>>212531112
The people who publicized this aren't same people who consider pic-related british are they?

>>212531600
He comments on the killing of the babies, since that's the topic he and Ned are discussing, and doesn't say no one cares about the sack.
No one says a positive thing about the sack, which makes sense since such things are uncommon in Westeros.

>>212532058

it's funny to see anyone defending tywin's sack of KL as normal when even in the books people comment on how he only did it because of how butthurt he was about aerys dabbing on him

>>212533539
Batminge.

Sophie won.

I'm just going to watch until Joffery gets poisoned. Skip to the fight where the Mountain smashes Pedro Pascal's head in, then quit.

>>212525929
You're getting a lot of shit, but Aegon the Conqueror shows up to Harrenhal and is like "hey surrender and you'll be treated well." The Lord at the time goes "no lol fuck you." and Aegon proceeds to burn them all alive and extinguish their entire lineage. It's possible that while they were burning to death they were saying "wait wait, we changed our mind, we surrender!" but at that point, it's too late and it's all about establishing and maintaining precedent.

When you show up, it's time for your opponent to surrender and if the people currently in charge don't, the people under them better rise up and make them surrender or everyone is fucked. Tywin did the same shit to the Reins and Tarbecks. What Dany did is absolutely, 100% understandable and justified in the context of the story. It wasn't the best way of handling things, but it also wasn't entirely crazy. The people of Westeros are scum that respond a lot more to the stick than the carrot.

Look at the conduct of the Iron Islands, look at Sansa and her secessionist amibitions, look at the sheer debauchery of the Eyrie, the debauchery of the Westerlands, the chaos of Dorne, the behavior of the Freys, and it really just goes on and on. Westeros is a pile of shit that was better off destroyed by the Others and forced into a complete reset by the point it was at. Dany's mistake was ever returning and saving it, but given that she did, everyone of those people's lives were on loan from her.

>>212521963 (OP)
>>212522247
>>212523194
>>212525219
>>212525250
>Reminder she never used fake ai double for her nude scenes

Imagine the soifacing when she returned

>>212521963 (OP)
>character has 6 seasons of build up
>writing fell off a cliff before she even did anything

I never really liked Dany when it aired but I could see why people got hyped, she adds no value to a rewatch because the greentext

>>212522141
She's a 4/10 at best it's only because she was playing an underaged character

>>212535999
completely wasted digits of untruth

>>212535954
That's completely grrm's fault. He promised them for most of a decade that he'd have the next book out and be well on his way into the final one. Even D&D still had hope in him for a while

>>212536062
Dungeons and Dragons?

>>212536110
David & Dan

>>212525887
>Media illiterate
>Showfag has no argument

The rape, Sansa.

>>212536286
Why didn't Arya stay with her raped sister to rebuild the fledgling kingdom if family is so important? Why go off to die at sea?

>>212536493
The belltower in Notre Dame needs ringing.

MY Queen

>>212522769
>acting!

>>212535999
Not underage in D&Dland

>>212521963 (OP)
she was shit from the start, only retards and woman liked her.
Same thing bscl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKcIvNsy81Q&t=910s

>>212521963 (OP)
>Can you please shut the doooooooooor

>>212536534
say what you will about her character but she was a fucking babe for the whole show. absolutely kino hair

>>212521963 (OP)
She was the glue that kept the show going for 8 seasons
Throughout the show, you always felt the Targaryens would be destined to take control of the throne with her, no matter what other shit was going on with the lannisters or the whites or whatever
The show lacked a strong male lead character from Stark house to counter/match her energy
Jon Snow was a cucked faggot that should have remained killed off at the start of the show

She was a boring twat.

>>212536760
>absolutely kino hair
That's pretty much why everyone liked seeing her on screen and she lost most people's interest going back to brown hair

She kinda reminds me of that duck face kid from Full House.

>>212536833
>glue
Really? I couldn't stand her or anything that happens around her. I pretty much watched for Tyrion/Bronn.

>>212523566
My my...

>>212536980
that makes sense you see yourself in the deformed loser outcasts

>>212537135
Mommy says I don't need a neck to be sexy daddy. You can suck my butt.

>>212521963 (OP)
watched her from a few yards away for several days while on location in the 7th series. she is even prettier in life

>>212537247
And her butt is even prettier?

the more she ate the more she shat

>>212537505
>those eyebrows
lel. Like two caterpillars dancing on a hot stove

>>212537135
she knows exactly what she's doing

>>212524674
I don't remember her throwing a bitch fit under the walls of Quarth in the books, or feeding people to her dragons or executing a revolutionary for killing a master or threatening a nobleman into marrying her.

I for one love Daenerys because seeing her lets me know that I can skip the scene.

>>212521963 (OP)
>tfw complained about her from the beginning
>tfw she triggered my one-drop-rule-radar
I honestly feel bad about her seizures/aneurysm/whatever. Take it as a warning not to mix, because genetics will have its revenge even if it is generations down the line.

>>212537505
didn't see it, she was wearing a long winter coat. but her face is gorgeous

>>212521963 (OP)
Emilia has a reputation for being an extremely sweet and nice person. That said, I thought she was totally out of her element in this role, hated girlboss Dany, and skipped all her scenes.

>omg s-shes just like the heck in mad king! her descent into madness!
she made numerous attempts to get them to surrender and stayed outside the city with a fuckin dragon for weeks, what did they expect?

>>212522180
jeet genetics

>>212522141
Speak for yourself. A nigga like me only needs some bad p00sy in his life.

>>212536686
underrated

>>212521963 (OP)
Emilia is extremely cute, she has a plump ass and beautiful tiddies, and she was just perfection as Daenerys Targaryen.

>>212521963 (OP)
I wonder how much of it is race related..

Hear me out:
Compare her plot to Jon Snow's. They're both supposed to be slower builds for overarching plot-lines that will eventually converge.
But why was Jon Snow meeting the wildlings so much more interesting than Daenerys meeting the dothraki?

The wildlines were crude, and low class, but they were still intelligent. They spoke articulately, had morals fit for their environment, and were generally easy to empathize with.
The dothraki were also crude, and low class, but low intellect. Their language was mostly grunts. They weren't uncivilized because they were exiled to some harsh climate like the wildlings were, they voluntarily were nomadic raiders. Their whole culture was actually savage, while the wildlings were largely just white people who happened to be in the wrong place when the wall went up.

>>212541164
Cont.
Point is, Daenerys and Jon had very similar plotlines. One was just boring and unrelatable because it was mostly hanging out with a bunch of black and brown people.

>>212529841
because the episode it showed up in was fucking terrible and it was like the start of a season and it was right when the quality of the writing took a fucking nose dive. Like it was already trending down after season 1 but the bad pussy shit was when it got really bad

>>212522141
>fat chick with sad tits
no thanks

>>212540968
Yep

>>212521963 (OP)

Ridiculous that they were too lazy and stupid to dye her eye brows.

people don't give D&D credit enough for the first 4 (maybe5) seasons. early on they cut through a lot of chaff and landed on a final product that has good pacing and serves the original material well. it wasn't until they went through a period of burnout and wanted to get out but HBO insisting to keep them that the quality suffered. HBO should simply have gone shopping for new showrunners after it was clear D&D had lost the spark

>>212541434
no bronn episode is bad episode

>>212521963 (OP)
When i first watched in the 2010s i hated clarke as daenerys too. She was simply not hot enough and kinda fat. Was already getting sauron vibes from her too with her entitlement and her constant threats. All she ever did was threaten to burn people and fight to change cultures and shit. Not a surprise how she turned out.

>>212521963 (OP)
The biggest problem was the show insisting that she was the good guy until she snapped when it should have been clear that she was just another unhinged Targ much earlier. Actually just waltzing around, conquering shit and burning people was based af.

>>212540683
>Sunset found her squatting in the street

>>212526083
>It's not his ending. It's D&Ds.
Mega cope

>>212536493
She was waif(u) with aryas face

>>212522769
Why does she make the same kind of expressions a baby would make?

>>212536493
Because the one ring had left its mark on her.

Wait sorry wrong franchise, she was fleeing the Westerosi IRS

>>212526083
It's definitely his ending without 2 books worth of plot that connects it to the end of A Dance with Dragons

>>212531149
I hate women who have no space between their eyes and eyebrows

>>212535422
nude?

>>212521963 (OP)
>rewatching GoT

>>212521963 (OP)
At least you know what scenes to skip.

>please my lady
just a crumb of that pussy

Emilia Clarke makes me smile :)

>>212543407
Viserys was prettier than her

>>212525152
Ghiscari culture does not have guest right that is an andal and first men thing in westeros

>>212522141
Yes and then she refused to go nude anymore.

>>212523488
All of her chapters suck. When you turn the page and see a Danerys chapter starting, you just want to get it over with.

>>212540968
She was cute. Looks terrible now

>>212521963 (OP)
She was young, slender, pale, a great ass and looked like the girl I first made love to.
She became insufferable as she got older and fatter (to be fair emilia got sick or something so I have nothing against her personally)

>>212545282
This. After Drogo dies her "arc" becomes unbearably boring and meandering, but she remains consistently annoying. In hindisight it's incredible how much of these books is shit.

>>212522476
>Men lust after her, and dismiss all of the unhinged shit she does because she's hot.
So, accurate to life?

>>212521963 (OP)
This is absolutely true.
>>212522141
But so is this.

The rampant, gratuitous nudity from central characters (whether they could act or not) is what made Game of Thrones the phenomenon that it was. It's also a titanic part of why House of the Dragon went over like a lead balloon.

>>212536208
damn the book writing doesn't seem particularly good either if I have to be honest, I expected it to be better

>>212521963 (OP)
I skip all her parts.
But Jorah is still one of my favorite characters along with Davos and Varys.

I had sex with Emilia Clarke back in the day before she was famous, but /tv/ will probably not believe it.

>>212522141
The first naked girl ass i ever saw was khaleesi in season 1 and i broke my willy

>>212545282
>mfw i turn the page and its a catelyn, brienne, daenerys, sansa, arianne, asha, or arya chapter
Cersei and maybe pre-Braavos Arya are the only tolerable female POVs in the series.

>>212546317
plap plap plap

pure sex

>>212546317
this bitch made me get infatuated to a classmate that had a similar ass and similar eyes, never managed to have sex with her fml.
BTW why do some women look the hottest when they are sad or scared?

>>212546317
not gonna lie, I would

insufferable cunt

*posts the sexier Targaryen*

>>212544191
Did dany actually love him at all back? Does she in the books?

>winder is combing!!!1!!!!
>gets rek'd by Quasimodo's sister
What a shitty show.

>>212546725
>not monke
>dropped

>>212521963 (OP)
Yeah I was just rewayching it too. I skipped most of her scenes. And Sansa the whore. And a lot of Arya too.

>>212521963 (OP)
>>212522141
She's my mom and I want to commit wincest with her

>>212547237
Haven't watched that show but yes monke is cute

>>212534293
Because he’s wrong, and the sack made people hate the Lannisters and was not normal

>>212546725
Looks like Hunter Schafer, and was mogged by the Alicent actress.