Thread 212524777

So, what's The Handmaid's Tale phenomenon?

dunno lol

>>212524777 (OP)
>NOOO DON'T MAKE ME CHAD'S PROPERTY! We are dangerously close to Alpha males just killing all the noodly
betas off and keeping us as their breeding stock in gilded cages.

My friend is a guy in his 20s who's never had a girlfriend and for some reason he's a massive fan of the Handmaid's Tale and I don't understand why because everyone here says it's a female sexual fantasy show.

>>212524777 (OP)
huh, never heard there were gray ones. anyway, not a chance i'll ever watch that show. well, cya!

>>212524777 (OP)
Wait that’s the plot or lore of the show? Elisabeth Moss was chosen as one of the top tier breeding sows? What the fuck?

>>212524777 (OP)
They went with the recognizable reference over the drab nunnery clothes that could be from any of a thousand productions.

>>212524777 (OP)
They're probably trying to highlight how those people are essentially live stock even tho their situation is 'the best'. It's like chastising the story for not following them either. People on twitter are so god damn dumb
Also read the book, it's not that long

>>212525207
Is it worse than the two years she was fucking Fred Armisen

>>212525261
>>212525340
>N-No it has nothing to do with our narcissism!
Uh-huh.

>>212525079
Has your friend ever tried to stick his dick in your ear? I've heard that's what gays do before dey eat da poo poo.

>>212525207
They made a whole movie about a billionaire chad who's obsessed with Elisabeth Moss.

No one every wanted to be the Marthas or the Econ workers. Image related.

>>212525207
Handmaid Tale's setting is a slightly more lax Children of Men
99% of women's vajozzles broke and Elisabeth Moss is one of the very small remaining minority that can still make babies

Attractiveness or anything else shouldn't really bear into "was immune to the plague and has functioning ovaries"

>>212525079
he's taking notes on how to make it happen in real life

>>212526800
With the power of being raped at the speed of sound!

>>212527099
You keep her godamn name out ya mouth

>>212524777 (OP)
It's the female version of NOOOOOO DON'T SUCK MY COCK

>>212524777 (OP)
>>212525207

THT's unintended marketing brilliance was to make a female rape fantasy palatable by dressing it up as hilariously absurd leftist garbage(you got a "far-right" president and shit happened). or maybe the gaslighting of a society which in reality is pretty much the polar opposite of men oppressing women isn't that hilarious.

anyway, they've chosen the worlds ugliest young actress for the lead so the target audience could imagine themselves in her shoe's and because the makers of le feminist tv-show knew full well they wouldn't feel emphathy with her if she's pretty

>>212527290
Is it also immune to paper shredders?

>>212527290
It's funny that the left doesn't realize that they are the censorship people now.

>>212526800
>admits it's just fantasy cosplay for the protestors

>>212527431
worse than outright censorship actually, they'll just edit the objectionable material out of books now

>>212527290
these people really are full of themselves.

>>212527396
>>212527482
>The special fireproof edition is manufactured from heat-resistant aluminum material, bound with nickel wire and stainless steel used in aerospace manufacturing, and printed with ink that won't be destroyed or degraded even when exposed to a temperature of 2200°F.

>>212524777 (OP)
when media pretend that something is super big and everyone is talking about it like [insert current series] in netflix

>>212527558
>bound with nickel wire and stainless steel used in aerospace manufacturing
So what you're saying is jetfuel can melt steel beams, but not smut

>>212526800
If you're trying to prove a point wouldn't it be more effective by pretending to be the suffering 99% like in real life than the privileged breeding sow that's 1%? If I'm protesting capitalist society i wouldn't dress up as a monopoly man, but as a poor farmer being exploited...

>>212527558
Wait, this is a real thing?
looks it up
Holy fuck! these people really are full of themselves.
>$130,000 at auction

>>212527762
Yeah, this has been my first real casualty of the AIslop age

>The image of the 81-year-old jewish feminist author gleefully wielding a flamethrower?
>It happened.

>"progressives" are terrified of right wing christians treating women the way muslims do
>while demanding unlimited muslim men be allowed into their society and be allowed to do as they please
hmmm

>>212527290
That's actually a pretty dope gimmick. I imagine it would do gangbusters with the religious crowd too. You could probably market this to almost any demographic that likes to pretend it's being discriminated against.

>>212527431
It's particularly funny they used an old woman to hold the flamethrower. The idea that "fascists" are a concern for society is such an out-of-touch, quixotic worldview that only old people who never go outside and get all their information from Facebook would have. Is that actually Margaret Atwood?

>>212527829
worse, she's Canadian.

>>212527975
whoops, they're not burnproof

>>212527386
The funniest part is that it was illegal for anyone but the Alpha men and breeder women to have sex and the government was spying on people to make sure they werent getting laid. They couldn't even have sex with their own wives.

>>212525261
nice try wine aunt-anon

I thought is was Drumpf's America show

>>212524777 (OP)
not even handmaiden tail could came up with women dying to miscarriage for being suspected having a abortion, while entire actual children drown because the same government did cuts money for flood prevention

>>212528445
if you die to a flood you deserve to die, it's fucking water

>>212527558
>aluminium
So galium will fuck it up, isn't? I'll remember to take some to the next KKK-nazi rally I'll attend.

>>212528445
It's way worse than that, my dude. His first six months in office Trump has already killed 1.55 million Americans, exceeding the ~1.1 million he killed in his entire first term. Elon Musk alone is responsible for 300,000 of the deaths.

It's estimated that the Big Beautiful Bill alone will result in over 14 million deaths.

Sources:

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/usaid-doge-deaths-children-cuts-7nb83dfkp
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/04/health/trump-budget-global-health-polio.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

By the time's all said and done, Trump might beat Hitler, Mao and Stalin's high scores

>>212527762
it's a collector's item

>>212528655
You know people die whether Trump is president or not, right? That's just something that happens to people. I'm sorry if I'm the bearer of bad news.

>>212528969
Check the second link, broski. The woman confirmed her team was literally on the verge of curing tuberculosis, and Trump pulled their funding and now all that data is gone. One and a quarter million people die of TB every year, and from today forward every one of those deaths is on his hands.

>>212528655
and nobody will listen, because you spent nearly ten years saying trump was going to kill all the brown people, based on "HE JUST IS YOU FUCKING NAZI"
i was one of the many who tried to get you to read the boy who cried wolf
but no, trump is hitler because he wants to build a wall
now he could actually commit genocide, and when people like you complain, everyone has already tuned out
just remember, you were warned

>>212527431
The right still beats them in censorship.

>>212528016
Fascists are a pretty big problem in the US, we've got masked military personnel stealing random people from apartments.

>>212529040
shadowbanning alternative viewpoints on social media isn't the same as removing tranny porn from children's school libraries

>>212529100
Yes, the second one is government censorship while the first one is private companies having infinite power, a thing you DEMANDED occur.

>>212529072
>First they came for the Mexicans, and I said nothing, because I was not Mexican
>Then they came for the Muslims, and I said nothing, because I was not Muslim
>then I jerked off to Stellar Blade

>>212529072
>stealing random people from apartments
whoa
why steal people?
are they selling them?

>>212529137
They're not coming for mexicans or muslims though, they take anybody.

>>212529166
Name five people they've taken (this is not a rhetorical question)

>>212529032
So what you're saying is they accurately predicted what would happen, and now it's happening, and you are upset at them for telling you it would happen.
Huh, just like global warming.

>>212529201
ICE refuses to release names. This is the problem, they're snatching anybody they like and not telling people.

>>212529250
Their families aren't even reporting it?

>>212529242
To this day I'm convinced christians just want all those baby souls to powerful some kind of evil machine.

>>212529131
>the government should back off and let me show children pictures of trannies having sex
>that's totally different from being silenced as an adult in the public square by corporations being instructed by government agencies
>it's totally different
yes it fucking is

>>212529005
>One and a quarter million people die of TB every year
Not the good kind of people so who cares

>>212529204
>they accurately predicted what would happen
no, trump isn't rounding up brown people for genocide
he's bad
not as bad as democrats, but pretty bad
the thing is, he's virtually immune to criticism now, because the last ~10 years of anti-trump criticism have been SO bad that everyone tuned out
just like i and many others said they would
you've made your bed and now you can lie in it

>>212529270
Probably. We've got tens of thousands of people taken.
If you want, you could google it.

>>212529005
We already cured TB. It's called penicillin.

>>212529201
Mahmoud Khalil
Rumeysa Ozturk
Kilmar Abrego Garcia
Khabane Serigne Khaby
Neri Alvarado

And those are just the famous ones
It'll be you next

>>212529318
>the GOVERNMENT made them do it
no it fucking didn't.
>>212529380
But he is rounding them up.

>>212529391
which is only a cure until it suddenly isn't because we ended up creating an antibiotic resistant strain

>>212529273
How the fuck does that machine work? Like the hats turn into skulls before they even enter the machine or do the skulls exit the machine and then turn into hats? Why would you save an image this stupid?

>>212529456
>>212529391
>>212529348
Why is the right so hateful of medicine?

>>212529439
>no it fucking didn't.
Here's The Guardian, that notorious fascist rag, on how the Biden admin directly controlled Facebook moderation policy

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/27/mark-zuckerberg-says-white-house-pressured-facebook-to-censor-covid-19-content

>>212529422
>They're not coming for mexicans or muslims

>>212529471
Because they know we're just a few years of research from men becoming indistinguishable from women and they're afraid it'll make them "gay" that the 10/10 bombshell they're lusting after was born with Y chromosomes, like how it makes you a pedophile to lust after a girl who was a child eighteen years ago

>>212529473
>The government were angy at us, but didn't actually do anything
lol, did you even read this?

>>212529456
And they were going to cure it with a different antibiotic which doesn't even fix the issue you just brought up.

>>212529471
I'm not "hateful of medicine". I'm hateful of (You), saar.

>>212529464
The fact that you're probably serious is very funny.

>>212529422
ICE is doing God's work it seems. Voting for the Vice next election BTW

>>212529439
how convenient of you to miss the twitter files

>But he is rounding them up.
trump is rounding up brown people for genocide?
not illegal immigrants for deportation?
and you wonder why you're not taken seriously

>>212529491
He's even trying to deport US citizens like Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Zohran Kwame Mamdani you fucking idiot

post lickable boots please

>>212529551
no he's not
stop being silly

>>212529534
I just said he's rounding them up, you over-excited woman.
And one of the problems is he's taking random people, sending them to random places, regardless of if those places accept to take them or state they'll kill anyone sent there.

>>212529551
>>212529607

>>212529602
He's been caught several times trying to deport US citizens, google it.

There'd be nothing wrong with it if women just admitted it was fap fiction, it's just pathetic that they dress it up

>>212529631
Yeah, it's pretty good for those of us who are into dystopias. Shit's actually getting interesting.

>>212529633
What color were those "citizens"?

>>212529697
Some pink, some brown, some yellow.

>>212529633
>just google my argument and read all the bullshit that convinced me
nah

>>212529607
>random
why would trump or anyone else have any interest in rounding up RANDOM people?
do you ever stop to think how insane you sound?

>>212529727
>Won't google it
lol, you're retarded
>Why would he get random people
Because he's very incompetent.

>>212529727
>do you ever stop to think how insane you sound?
No you're the crazy one!

>>212529713
Get em out

>>212529765
You fucking greenies need to get out of our country.

>>212529763
It's a shame that they lie so much.
It takes a lot of gaslighting yourself to pretend evolution didn't happen, but they teach that shit in schools.

>>212529005
>We WERE going to cure this disease but since we lost our funding we just erased all of our data. Oopsies!

>>212529747
let's just get this straight
you're saying trump, and the us government, are gathering up people at random
AT RANDOM
for what?
i guess random punishments?
maybe they spin a wheel like in mad max beyond thunderdome
it couldn't possibly be an attempt to deport illegal immigrants, like they say, right?
no it's random people
holy shit you people really expect to be taken seriously while you come out with absurd nonsense like this

>>212528080
How the hell does that make any sense? If there is a fertility crisis you would want people to have MORE sex.

>>212529861
Hey, similar shit's happened before.
Trump cut the funding of research safety specialists who were working in the wuhan labs two months before the outbreak happened.

>>212529005
My guy you are retarded. Those people have been scamming US taxpayers for decades - that money belongs to Israel!

>>212529869
Right now, they're grabbing random people and sending them to random countries.
I would be behind it if they were deporting illegal immigrants. That's not what's happening.
Hence my fucking worry about his deep incompetence.

>>212529422
No Marks, Matthews, Johns etc?

>>212529918
>>212529869
If only we had some form of due process to determine who we're actually rounding up and deporting, and to where.

>>212529918
>they're grabbing random people and sending them to random countries
i actually wish this were true because it would be hilarious

>>212529883
So how does the research they already did magically just disappear?

>>212529876
You still don't understand that the premise of the setting is that the gray women can't get pregnant?

>>212529918
>they're grabbing random people and sending them to random countries
>God America sucks, I wish I could leave
>WAIT NO NOT LIKE THAT

>>212529949
That is in fact what's happening.
It's staggeringly dumb. I'll give you that it's pretty funny, too.

>>212529971
Who are you talking to, mr. schizo?
>>212529952
Data absolutely disappears if you're not paying to have it archived, yes.
Even physical mediums.

>>212529935
you do
but a guy gets 2 (TWO) hearings, that determine he entered the country illegally and is a member of a violent gang, he gets deported, and BUT WHAT ABOUT DUE PROCESS WHERE IS HIS DUE PROCESS
at this point, you're so dishonest it's time to just shove you out of the way and get on with basic policy

>>212530009
>A guy gets 2 hearings
No he doesn't. That's the current problem. We are bypassing these systems entirely.

>>212529980
so when they determine which "random" people to grab and send to "random" countries
do they roll a dice?
do they just walk into the street and grab the first person they find?
how do they make sure it's random and not biased?

>>212530043
Well, they go somewhere with a lot of browns and just start busting into doors and grabbing people.
There's still whites in those zones, mind, and they're still grabbed. Because you know, we've also got white illegal immigrants.

They literally best up a rapist in episode 1, OH NO WE'RE SO OPPRESSED

>>212529952
in medical research "data" is often frozen samples of organism, tissues, etc. not just documents. If you stop storing those samples you lose the research.

>>212530005
They really can’t even fit the most important stuff on some guy’s 2 terabyte hard drive? When most of the data is text? These scientists don’t seem to care very much about their work if they don’t even have backup data storage for it.

>>212529952
In covid's case, you just removed the guys from america telling the chinese scientists not to do anything retarded.
No research lost, but by god they did something retarded VERY quickly after we left.

Stop arguing, send more money to Israel and make more room for Indians

>>212530149
Yes mr. president, right away mr. president. MIGA!

>>212530138
That shit gets used for the next research. It's lab equipment.
Unless you want them to buy private hard drives for their research, and then buy new ones every decade or so and then do data swaps and then monitor the data for corruption. all on their own without pay.

>>212530084
>they go somewhere with a lot of browns and just start busting into doors and grabbing people
first of all, that's not random
second of all i doubt it
where are you getting this from?
because i've been seeing people say this mental shit for a while, and every time i ask for a source, they just downvote and run away
almost as if it's complete bullshit being spread to either make trump look bad, or more likely, make his opposition look insane (as you do)

Noooooo don't fuck my pusssy

>>212530233
>Where are you getting this from?
Observing ICE in action, since they refuse to disclose their target lists or methods.
It's the best explanation I can give you for their system.

My best theory is they're TRYING to deport illegals, but have absolutely no ability to do any kind of data management. It's the most incompetent set of deportations I've ever seen.

>>212527431
Lol, you really believe that

>>212530119
Don’t they store those kinds of things for years? I doubt they just clean out every single freezer the moment they stop getting paid. Those samples would more likely be sent to another research group if they want them.

>>212530291
We can only hope, many organizations in charge of making these exchanges have had large cuts recently.

>>212527558
I don't remember anyone ever trying to burn this book

>>212530279
>Observing ICE in action, since they refuse to disclose their target lists or methods.

Lying faggot

>>212530280
>find a left wing forum and say something right wing
>get deleted and banned
>find a right wing forum and say something left wing
>get laughed at
every time

>>212530279
Why should i care? I'm obviously white so i won't be deported no matter how much they fuck up... Maybe you care because you're brown, but i'm not.

>>212529551
>They're not coming for mexicans or muslims

>>212530280
yes, they're that stupid

>>212530351
Because they're deporting whites too. This is the problem with skipping the standard due process and archiving.
>>212530330
What's the lie?
>>212530364
I'd be much more chill with this if they actually were going after the groups they want to go after, yes.

>>212530206
>buy private hard drives for their research, and then buy new ones every decade or so and then do data swaps and then monitor the data for corruption. all on their own without pay.
The horror! They actually need to be responsible about protecting their research!
If they really thought they were going to make a major breakthrough they’d do all of that and more for free.

>>212530291
>Don’t they store those kinds of things for years?
Do you think that's something they can do for free?

>>212530279
>Observing ICE in action
where are you observing ice in action?
watching through your window as they grab your neighbours at random for no reason?
come on

>>212529005
I hereby confirm I'll cure cancer, if you give me all your money.
If you don't, all those deaths are on you.

>>212530391
whites like omar, rashida and zohran...?

>>212530206
Oh wow, a $50 supply cost every 10 years? Shit man.

>>212530405
Anon, I look at the news, the accounts, and the footage released.

>>212530403
If they can keep the power on in their building they can keep the freezers working.

>>212530440
>>212530398
If it's entirely digital, they probably are doing this.
It's still retarded to expect them to do this, however.

>>212530391
>What's the lie?

What you said tard

>>212530434
Nah, just their white neighbors.

>>212530475
>it is retarded to expect people to do the jobs they are given grants to do
How very progressive

>>212525079
Sexless simps often believe if they just simp harder, it will get them laid, so they try another losing strategy of adopting the interests of the women they want to beg for sex.

>>212530460
>just keep the freezers running bro
>how? we literally don't get anymore money to do that
>oh well you should've been more responsible

>>212530495
I don't see a lie there.
>>212530500
They aren't being given a grant, anon. Try to keep up.

>>212529551
>He's even trying to deport US citizens like Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Zohran Kwame Mamdani you fucking idiot

I fucking wish.

>>212530542
So the old funding was cut and they were left with nothing because they didn't use it responsibly. Checks out as to why it got cut.

>>212529955
Ok but why would the government want them to not have sex with the non-chad men? Either way produces no children but the sexless way causes misery that could lead to revolution.

>>212530446
you believe the news, when the news says HOLY SHIT THEY'RE LITERALLY GRABBING PEOPLE AT RANDOM GET FUCKING SCARED AMERICA TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER THIS IS NOT A DRILL
well shit, just being told by a massively unreliable source was enough for you
i guess it's enough for me too
look out everybody trump is grabbing people off the street at random and sending them to random countries for no reason

>>212530574
Having sex for any reason other than procreation is sodomy.

>>212530570
So what percentage of grant money should be going into paying for archival services in advance in case of funding cut, would you say?

>>212529072
>we've got masked military personnel stealing random people from apartments
I must have missed the part of Mein Kampf where he talks about doing that.
Either that or you have no idea what fascism actually is, and just use it to mean anything the government does that you disagree with.

>>212530520
If they can’t even afford to pay the goddamn power bill by themselves then they deserve to lose everything.

>>212525207
>Wait that’s the plot or lore of the show?

There is no plot. There is no story. I couldn't make it through the first episode. It's VERY slow and nothing happens. The sex scenes are comically bad. The sterile woman holds the rape victim down while the dude tries his best not to touch her with anything except his penis.

>>212530578
I wish I had a more reliable source, but the organization in question refuses to check who they're grabbing or tell us who they're grabbing.

>>212530600

often Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition

>>212528502
>Thanks, Obama!

>>212530615
So what percentage of a lab's budget should be going towards buying archival services in advance in case their grant gets cut without warning?

>>212530596
Enough to keep the research, obviously. I don't know why it's such a difficult concept for you to grasp. Data management is a crucial aspect of research. If you lose everything because your grant ran out, you fucked up and the grantor fucked up by trusting you to be responsible.

>>212530035
He's talking about that El Salvadoran guy you guys were whining about you moron.

>>212525207
Human birth rates have collapsed. Women are largely infertile. Humanity is a number of generations from extinction or something.

A far far right wing Christian movement takes over the united states and does ISIS stuff to everyone that christian theocrats don't like. I'm talking day of the rope kinda shit.

Women that are literally breedable are rounded up and turned into birthing concubines for influential and wealthy men. Women that aren't breedable become house servants. Good christian women get arranged to marry men. The wives are expected to help the man impregnate the concubines, usually by helping to hold them down.

>>212530688
So what percentage would that be?

>>212530632
>often Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
The only (major) modern country that is accurately described by that is China.

>>212530702
We've literally got people in this thread saying it's fine as long as white people aren't deported, anon. Who support a leader who bypasses the checks and balances present, to do things best described as dictatorial, who is using force on a group he views as opposition.

>>212530699
>Enough - pronoun - as much or as many of something as required
I hope no one is giving you any grants if you're this stupid.

>>212530751
So you're not responsible enough to know how much should go into archival?

>>212530632
>the organization in question refuses to check who they're grabbing
how do you know that?
you don't know who they're grabbing because they won't tell you
but you know the system they're using
you sound like an escaped mental patient

>>212530596
They can manage their own budgets however they choose. But free handouts can’t last forever if you don’t show results.

>>212530632
>I wish I had a more reliable source, but the organization in question refuses to check who they're grabbing or tell us who they're grabbing.
They don't have to tell you commie faggots shit.

>>212530771
It's a variable, depending on what is being researched and how that data is created. You're basically asking me how much water goes through a water treatment plant each year: enough.

Blessed evening, Sons of Jacob.

>>212530777
>how do you know that
By the numerous times they've taken people who are US citizens, and refused to do anything about it until the news got on them.

The idea of learning by observation is apparently an entirely alien concept to you.

>>212524777 (OP)
>us is now this theocratic state, where there are 8 women being bred by one guy
>oh yeah there's also 16 fugly ones that run the house
>military? twinks with handguns
>state of the world? who cares lol
>i don't know what nuclear weapon is or missile or whatever made up thing you keep mentioning

>>212530688
>Why did this walmart close down?
>People stopped shopping here. They had to close down the store.
>I don't get it, why were they so irresponsible with their money that they had to close down just because people stopped giving them money?

>>212530803
>>212530778
All right, so what percentage would you pay for the research in question? Medical archival is extra expensive because of the freezer requirements, mind.

>>212530658
How about buying archival services in case there's fire or an accident or somebody spills coffee on the computer?

>>212530785
They're a police entity, they really do.

>>212530809
>By the numerous times they've taken people who are US citizens, and refused to do anything about it until the news got on them.
You haven't been able to provide a single example.

>>212530827
In your retarded analogy they would put all the merchandise from the Walmart in the parking lot then light it on fire.

>>212530827
>false equivalence
The actual equivalence would be
>Where did all the stuff in the Wal-Mart go
>Oh they closed down because people stopped shopping here
>So what happened to the stuff

>>212530835
Again, it's variable you retard. You're asking for a hard quantification of unknown unknowns. You might as well be asking what the color fucking purple tastes like.

>>212530842
See, that would be interrupted when the grant is interrupted. Which is why I said buying archival services in advance.
You need to have months, maybe years of storage planned ahead of time.

>>212530875
Nah, I didn't. Some other guy did, though he didn't pick ones that where white.

>>212530809
>they've taken people who are US citizens
>>212530632
>the organization in question refuses to ... tell us who they're grabbing
how do you know they're grabbing us citizens if you don't know who they're grabbing?

>>212530868
No they don't.
You're just some commie faggot activist standing in the street causing a scene getting in the way. They don't owe you shit

>>212530922
News organizations track these people down and then report it.

>>212530929
Ah yes, the police do not owe the taxpayer shit.
And stop that commie crying wolf, ya retard, or else actual commies will happen.

>>212530745
>We've literally got people in this thread saying it's fine as long as white people aren't deported, anon.
Yes, we have people who would prefer fascism over the current regime.
>Who support a leader who bypasses the checks and balances present, to do things best described as dictatorial, who is using force on a group he views as opposition.
Even if you were right about Trump being a dictator, which is a ridiculous idea in itself, fascism is still not a synonym for dictatorship.
Going by your own (already very broad) definition, we're still missing the exultation of nation and race, the centralization, and the economic and social regimentation.

>>212530890
Yeah, it's based on a lot of unknown variables. Like whether or not the grant will be cut.
So how do you plan for something unknown like this?

>>212530939
>news organisations report it
if a news organisation told you that you're gay would you believe it?

>>212530890
>>212530878
>Bro just sell the samples!

>>212530988
I'm going by the first definition in the miriam webster dictionary.
And we've got the exultation of race in this very thread several times, along with the centralization from trump bypassing numerous checks and balances. And the economic and social regimentation is extremely strong in the US.

>>212530939
Have you ever heard of propaganda?

>>212531000
>We will be creating X kind of data
>Spend portion of grant money on storage for that data type
>???
>Don't lose everything by being an irresponsible retard when you deservedly lose your grant for being an irresponsible retard

>>212531009
I know, the news isn't the best source, which is why we have policing organizations disclose things like who is in prison.
The fact that they are not means we have to rely on things like the news. It's a fucking problem.

>>212531048
Yes, which is why I'm complaining of this.

>>212529289
wha?

>>212531055
How many years in advance should that storage be?
What will we do when samples need to be refreshed?
How will we afford this in addition to doing the actual research we're here to do?

>>212529072
yeah, that isn't true.

>>212531013
Or just move them somewhere else where they could still be useful. Is there really no one else interested in these samples when they could supposedly cure TB?

>>212531059
>we have policing organizations disclose things like who is in prison
go on then
link to these organisations so we can trust them wholeheartedly to tell us about the randomly selected prisoners they (and only they) know about

>>212531091
They seem dead set on having as many babies born as possible, then abandoning them.

>>212531097
>What does the color purple taste like
>What about green
>How can we make it someone else's fault instead of a product of my own incompetence
Idk man, but I really, genuinely hope no one gives you any grant money because they're just pissing it away.

>>212530696
What do all the men do that can't get a breeding woman? Riot?

>>212531123
You can also visit the prisoners. Because them being in prison is public knowledge.
And what, do you want me to link you to a wikipedia page explaining the concept of a state or federal prison? Or just to a random prison's web page?

>>212531030
>And we've got the exultation of race in this very thread several times,
Anon, Donald Trump isn't posting in this thread.
>along with the centralization from trump bypassing numerous checks and balances.
There's another term you're using incorrectly.
>And the economic and social regimentation is extremely strong in the US.
Are you being serious? I refuse to believe that you actually think this.

>>212531148
You have the same knowledge about whether or not they'll keep funding as the researchers anon, you could at least hazard an educated guess. If you're responsible and all.

Also, are you really retarded enough to think that scientists are talking to you?

>>212531164
must be hard to visit these prisoners after they've been sent to random countries

>>212531121
>bro just move the samples
>we literally can't even pay for the samples to be moved
>I'm sure there's someone else doing TB research like this.
>no, that's you decided to fund us in particular. We're the ones doing this kind of research.

>>212529551
good; I hope he does. I hope he deports you, too, you histrionic faggot.

>>212530902
>Nah, I didn't. Some other guy did
No he didn't.
Mahmoud Khalil is an Algerian citizen not an American citizen.
Rumeysa Ozturk is a Turkish citizen not an American citizen.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador not an American citizen.
Khabane Serigne Khaby is a Senegalese (and Italian somehow) citizen not an American citizen.
Neri Alvarado is a citizen of Venezuela not an American citizen.

None of the things you are complaining about are happening. You're just an anti-White communist activist that is fighting to undermine the deportation of your brown allies.

>>212531187
>Donald trump isn't in this thread
Not important, because I said fascists are a problem, not that trump was a fascist.
>You're using a term incorrectly!
Said the guy who had beef with the webster dictionary.
>Are you being serious?
The difference between the top and the bottom is fucking vast, anon.

>>212525079
not having sex doesn't automatically make someone a stereotypical incel who hates women

>>212530964
>Ah yes, the police do not owe the taxpayer shit.
Yes that is correct sometimes.

Just because you pay taxes doesn't mean you get to obstruct the deportation of illegal aliens.

>>212525115
I watched 2 episodes and it really is boring as fuck

>>212531201
Anon, you've lost the plot.
I'm complaining that ICE does not do the things other policing organizations do that allow us to make sure they're not fucking up.
And they've been caught fucking up multiple times.
If we could go visit the people they're deporting, this situation would be much improved.

>>212531130
The Catholic Church provides food, shelter, and an education to 5 million children.

>>212531191
>still missing the point
Data management should be done with the assumption that you will lose everything, including your money. Looking at it from a different way, data is your product. If you are irresponsible with your product, you deserve to have your funding for the product revoked. Sorry I don't have exact answers to your shitty business model other than "it's fucked because you fucked it up" but it be like that. You don't think it be like it is, but it do.

>>212527290
Volcanos exist, however.

>>212531292
which is far fewer than they encourage be produced. SIDS rates percapita go up anywhere they are in power.

>>212530498
>>212530391
Show me one white person deported.

>>212530964
>And stop that commie crying wolf, ya retard, or else actual commies will happen
but you ARE actual commies though...
You act like we don't use the same website and see what you talk about when you're not advocating against deporting illegal aliens and complaining about ICE. You're not really subtle about it

>>212531217
here's a list if you want
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/tracking-us-citizens-children-detained-deported-ice-trump-updates.html
I'm not reading past the headline.

>>212530890
>>212530878
If a store can't afford to keep the food freezers going, they will actually do things like throw anything they can't sell into the literal garbage and someone just drives it to a landfill. The alternative is just having things like boxes of melted ice cream just sitting there rotting for no reason.

>>212531164
>You can also visit the prisoners
>>212531283
>If we could go visit the people they're deporting
you keep contradicting yourself
they don't tell us who they've grabbed but we know they're grabbing us citizens
they don't let us visit prisoners but that's how we know who they grabbed
>they've been caught fucking up multiple times
so have you

>>212531341
Specify white, since we're not going by color of the skin here, apparently.

>>212531333
Your madness is amusing.

>>212531379
In an actual scenario, they have a fire sale getting rid of as much product as they can. Throwing it away is an absolute last resort, unlike with your retarded """"researchers""""

>>212531386
Anon, I know you're kind of retarded, but again, The organizations we can visit the prisons of are our state and federal prisons.
ICE is an organization we CANNOT visit the people they capture. We have to rely on independent sources like news organizations to figure out who they took, and where they go.
Which is the problem.

>so have you
No, it just seems you're really, really bad at reading and need to be told the same thing like six times.

>>212531353
But I'm not. What the fuck do you think communism is?

>>212529289
They want to bring about the rapture. It already happened. We're at the Anti-Christ and whore of Babylon stage.

>>212531405
Hey, if we assume souls exist, then the increased rate of baby death is clear evidence of a desire for baby souls.

>>212531206
>bro we can't afford to rent a refrigerated truck or bother contacting other researchers it's too hard bro!
Stop with the excuses.

>>212531435
>independent sources like news organizations

>>212531492
>bro just have money to pay for things even when we've stopped paying for you

>>212531494
Yes, you see the problem here.
It would be much better if ICE reported what it was doing like any police organization should.
It's not, which is quite alarming.

>>212531395
??? That one nibba talking about white people being deported, i want to see a white person being deported.

>>212531524
Yeah, and I'm asking you what you mean when you say white, because I'm looking at the list of deportees named and some of them are pretty fucking pasty.

>>212531250
>Not important, because I said fascists are a problem, not that trump was a fascist.
No, you very clearly implied that America was becoming fascist under Trump.
>Said the guy who had beef with the webster dictionary.
When was that? In any case, centralization in regards to fascism refers to their opposition to federalism. For a practical example, think of how the third Reich abolished the state governments of the Weimar republic and the Keiserreich, and replaced them with Gauleiters appointed by the central government.
>The difference between the top and the bottom is fucking vast, anon.
Which is entirely irrelevant to the argument at hand.
Economic regimentation means a great amount of state control over the economy, which I don't think anyone could argue applies to modern America. If anything it's the other way around, with private economic interests having undue control over the state.

>>212531435
>the people they capture
Michael Robinson told CNN today about how he was captured at random and sent to a random country, in this case: Luxembourg.
"I couldn't believe it," said Mr. Robinson, "one minute I'm mowing my lawn and the next minute I'm captured."
Mr. Robinson added: "I don't even know what language they speak here in Luxembourg."

>>212531362
>Citizens are getting briefly detained then released once their citizenship is established.
>Toddlers who happen to be citizens by accident of birth are being deported along with their parents.
Where is the tragedy exactly?
The adult American citizens are receiving their due process and being released unlike what you've been claiming, and as to the children well what do you want to happen? Are we supposed to break up the family and put the kid in foster care just because they're a citizen? They can come back when they're 18 what's the big deal?

>>212531551
Well here is a hint, if they are called Jesus or Julio, they are not white.

>>212531562
Trump doesn't have to be fascist for fascists to be a problem, or america becoming more fascist under him. Are you stupid?

>When was that?
When you called the definition sourced overly vague. Also, the nazi similarities aren't doing you any help, given how often opposing organizations (like the legal system) are bypassed under trump's command.

As for the last one, I just think you may be wrong on which definition is used.

>>212531460
>What the fuck do you think communism is?
The leftist ideology you adhere to.

>>212531632
Okay, so jesus isn't white, noted.
So what is he?

>>212531551
NONE OF THEM ARE CITIZENS THOUGH REGARDLESS OF THEIR SKIN COLOR

>>212531662
So communists are people who want government transparency and more guns?

>>212531693
I aint googling that shit for you, I'm using the list the other guy posted.
And since you said "white person", that's good enough.

>>212531515
Why do you act like every researcher is a stupid penniless bum? They can't pool their money together? They can't take out a small loan to cover it? None of them would keep samples in their own private freezer?
All they can do apparently is whine and give up and throw everything away when the gravy train stops.

>>212531624
Iunno, I'm not reading past the headline.
>>212531756
They probably did some of these things, but it's retarded to rely upon it.
It's like relying upon random citizens to save babies from burning buildings. Some will, but christ that's unreliable.

>>212531690
A mexican immigrant??? Or you meant the bibilical jesus? He is a middle eastern jew. Again, you haven't shown a single white person being deported. So i assume there isn't any, except in the liberal circles where Julio Mendez is actually "white" like in the fbi criminal records.

guys YES trump wants to reverse the mass immigration policy of the democrats by deporting illegals
and YES there's tens of millions of them in the usa now
but look
how can you allow them to KIDNAP people and KILL them (by sending them to other countries)???
you should just let them LIVE (in america)
it's really all about not genociding random brown people and if you disagree you're literally evil

>>212531651
Only communists are obsessed with fascists. It's a dead give away every time. Going all the way back to the 20s Communists have always called their political enemies no matter what they actually are , fascists. I shit you not, they even called the Weimar Republic government of Germany fascists.

I don't mean saying some throw away like like "Trump is a fascist" or "this is like fascism", I mean whenever you see someone hyperventilating about how the fascists are taking over and we need to stop the fascists and this guy is a fascist and that guy is a fascist, fascist fascist fascist. That's a communist. Every time.
>I'm not a communist, I'm an anarchist!
Yeah whatever man same fucking shill at the end of the day.
You know how a bar where Nazis drink is a Nazi bar?
People who hang out and align themselves with communists are communists.

>>212531721
>So communists are people who want government transparency and more guns?
Sometimes.
Communists always call for things that weaken the system they want to overthrow.

>>212531753
>I aint googling that shit for you, I'm using the list the other guy posted.
I already did.
>>212531217
None of them are citizens.
It's literally just a bunch of foreigners who got their visas revoked.

>>212531756
Every single posts you've made on this topic since the very start has just been "I don't understand how medical research works." and when people explain to you how this shit works you just keep inventing dumber and dumber solutions that just reveal your ignorance.

No, a grant funded research lab can't just take out a loan, its a research lab that operates on grants, it has no other source of revenue. If they go to a bank they'll be ask "so when are you going to pay us back?" at which point the researchers will say "never" and then they'll get denied the loan. We're not talking about some fucking consumer grade freezers you store food it. Its cryogenic freezers that work in the triple digits below freezing to ensure that the samples change as little as possible over time. They're not cheap and you can't just call up a big truck to drive them across the country for free.

>>212531516
>quite alarming
be honest
are these the exact words the news anchor used?

>>212531651
>Trump doesn't have to be fascist for fascists to be a problem, or america becoming more fascist under him. Are you stupid?
I'm fairly certain he would have to be a fascist in order to be a fascist dictator.
>When you called the definition sourced overly vague.
I said that definition was broad, which it is, and then proceeded to try to explain to you that the only major country that actually meets it is China.
>Also, the nazi similarities aren't doing you any help, given how often opposing organizations (like the legal system) are bypassed under trump's command.
Again, centralization refers to having the central government run everything directly as opposed to a federal system. The example I gave was meant to illustrate that, as opposed to America where there are local state governments, local police forces, etc.
The American right (and I assume by fascists you mean people on the right rather than on the left?) has consistently opposed any steps towards centralization.
>As for the last one, I just think you may be wrong on which definition is used.
No, heavy government control over nominally private businesses/industries, similar to what you can see in modern China, is one of the distinguishing features of fascism as opposed to other forms of right-wing dictatorship.

>>212532125
Bold to call out that anon for not understanding how research works when you magically think you deserve free money despite continually proving yourself irresponsible with the data.

>>212526800
theyre dressing up as the housenegros instead of the field nigs

>>212529876
xev my beloved...

>>212532125
Science has become a complete liberal money laundering ritual for the globalists. It can't be trusted any longer.

>>212531954
I'm not an anarchist, anarchists are just monarchists in disguise.
Also, a number of people who aren't communists care about fascists. Anybody part of an allied nation, really, if they're at all honest.

>>212527386
>young
She was 35 when the show started

>>212532216
no.
>>212532238
Note I didn't call him fascist, I said we have a problem with fascists in this country, then called him dictatorial, as he repeatedly tries to grab for emergency powers and bypass legal process. Fascists like this, but are not necessarily one and the same.

>centralization refers to having the central government run everything directly
Yes, which is what is what I am complaining about, try to keep up.
And the right doesn't seem to dislike centralization any more, given their voting.

And as for the last one, I think you may just be wrong. The wealth gap in all examples given is huge.

>>212531991
You mean like bypassing legal systems and calling for emergency powers when there is no emergency?
I didn't know trump was communist, I thought he was just stupid.

>>212529422
>Still simping for the wife beating trafficker huh?

>>212532564
>calling for emergency powers when there is no emergency?
but there is an emergency.
The country is full of people who do not belong here and should be removed.

>>212532720
Oh, I was talking about him bypassing all other government branches to fuck around with tariffs. Which he then went back on since he's apparently spineless, losing us the advantage tariffs would have gained AND gaining us the ire of other nations.

>>212532542
>Note I didn't call him fascist, I said we have a problem with fascists in this country, then called him dictatorial, as he repeatedly tries to grab for emergency powers and bypass legal process. Fascists like this, but are not necessarily one and the same.
How is there a problem with fascists when they haven't been a significant force in any western country for at least half a century?
>Yes, which is what is what I am complaining about, try to keep up.
No, what you're complaining about is insufficient separation of powers within the central government, which furthers your accusations of dictatorship but has nothing at all to do with centralization.
>And as for the last one, I think you may just be wrong. The wealth gap in all examples given is huge.
The wealth gap isn't relevant to the argument. You can have a strictly regimented economy with a massive wealth gap or with a no wealth gap at all.

>>212524777 (OP)
Feminist leftists and liberals being brainwashed into becoming sterile, sexless losers because
>Working corporate job is girl boss slaaaaaaay
Men and women have never been free and always had their duties to society they didn't have much of a choice in for most of human history, women larping as an a uniquely oppressed "class" of people distinct from men is so historically illiterate it's hilarious. Being a stay at home mom throughout history was a privilege not slavery, women had to work grueling labor jobs just like men and your level of "protected" status had more to do with your lineage and familial wealth than anything else.

Feminists are some of the worst victims of ideology out there

>>212532876
>how is there a problem
we're getting more of them. how is that not a problem?
>Separation of powers has nothing at all to do with centralization
That's such bullshit and you know it.
>The wealth gap isn't relevant
But it sure seems to exist in every fascist state, huh?

What do the 99.99% of men that aren't billionaires do in this show? Women really do only recognize men with money and status huh

>>212531162
Uhhh... That's problematic sweetie. We need to unpack this.

>>212532876
>How is there a problem with fascists when they haven't been a significant force in any western country for at least half a century?
Leftists think anything authoritarian right is fascism in the same way Rightists think anything authoritarian left is communism. It's why leftists call Zionists Nazi and fascists when in reality it's just a radically ethnocentric and militarized democracy engaging in genocide.

Ideology is a mind poison my guy,, don't worry about it.

>>212532959
What fascist states exist?
What country doesnt have a wealth gap?

>>212533019
I said fascists, not fascist states.
And most countries have wealth gaps, but it tends to grow more extreme in the fascist states.

>>212533075
>it tends to grow more extreme in the fascist states
Such as?

>>212533093
Basically any tin-pot dictatorship fits most of the definition well enough to call them that.
No, I'm not googling one for you, both of us know those exist and if you claim otherwise that's dishonest as shit.

>>212533093
Your country you nazi prick

Bash the fash
No justice no peace
Trans rights are human rights

>>212533126
Man, you really seethe about trannies all day, don't you?

>>212530531
This meme single handedly ended the debate.

>>212533120
>Basically any tin-pot dictatorship fits most of the definition well enough to call them that.
Fascism is a very specific kind of dictatorship and ideology anon, no they're not all the same

>>212533170
But they fit the definition well enough to call them that.
Like china- it doesn't perfectly fit the definition, but it's close enough.

>>212533157
Trans
*clap*
Lives
*clap*
Matter
*clap*
Here

#DeportFascists

>>212533161
But the debate is still ongoing, and a big matter of contention.
>>212533208
stop seething about trannies anon, they're like .01% of the population and a jewish distraction.

>>212533193
China does not fit the definition of a fascist society, no. China has a constitution and even has local democratic processes claiming to be a "socialist democracy". A fascist state wouldn't even pretend to be democratic , and while China doesn't have western liberal values it does have a form of democracy
>Inb4 that's not real democracy
Don't be gay

>>212533235
>But the debate is still ongoing, and a big matter of contention.
nope, SCOTUS was shown that meme and overturned Roe v Wade that day.

>>212533235
Shut up fascist, follow your leader

>>212533271
so are you another anon, or are we backtracking on the claim that china is fascist?

>>212532785
Trump is an American and he's conservative and he's white and he's Christian and he's a friend of people like me and people on my team.

>>212532930
>women larping as an a uniquely oppressed "class" of people distinct from men is so historically illiterate it's hilarious
this.
>men have shorter lifespans, violence against men is more common and accepted, men are discriminated against in the justice system, men have always had more responsibilities and fewer protections than women
only NPCs believe the myth of male privilege, nobody who actually looks at the facts think that men have been oppressing women.

>>212532959
>we're getting more of them. how is that not a problem?
It certainly isn't much of one, compared to all the other ideologies that have much more influence.
>That's such bullshit and you know it.
That is genuinely what centralization means. It's about central government vs provincial governments, whether either is run democratically or dictatorially is irrelevant.
>But it sure seems to exist in every fascist state, huh?
It exists in pretty much every state.
>>212533075
>it tends to grow more extreme in the fascist states.
No it doesn't. It tends to grow most extreme in either very economically liberal, laissez fair, states, such as modern America, or in very corrupt states such as Russia. Neither of which are fascist.

>>212533308
A different anon, I don't think China is fascist. Fascism is a very specific thing, china is authoritarian but it's not fascist.

>>212533308
China aint our friend. That's all that matters.

>>212533347
I wouldn't call it the largest problem out there, but it's a fucking problem.

And did you think trump was only bypassing federal laws? He's also bypassing local laws.

And I can't think of many fascist states that don't have exaggeratedly large wealth gaps.

>>212533349
I don't think the definition is as specific as you'd like it to be.
I understand this problem, as nobody ever agrees on what communism or capitalism is.

>>212532720
And there are legal ways to go about that. Bypassing those legal ways is a fascist mindset.

Reminder, Obama deported more people, and did so by following the law. And, at least Bush 2 had the Patriot Act when he wanted to do some shady shit.

>>212532930
People want to have something to say they're fighting for, it's not their fault there was little to fight for then. Now, Trump has given them an actual thing to fight against. If anything, he has made them legitimate. The thing to go for would be to ignore them and do things that fly under the radar, which is what he's also doing. But, to appease people such as yourself, he does highly visual things that don't really amount to much, and thus riles those types of people.

>>212532971
What don't you get? There's a highly religious authoritarian government that forces this upon people. Let me take your dumbass to school for a moment: most political shit that happens, there's a third that's for, a third that's against, and a third that's in the middle and that decides what gets passed. Trump didn't win because the majority of the people wanted him to be president, he won because that middle third thought he'd be better than the opposition, much like how he lost last time. With this show/book, the whole "no more births" thing got the religiousfags in power, and they use force to stay in power. Atwood wrote the book by using real historical elements to write a dystopian alternate world (which mind you is later toppled) and you tards use the fan base to spout dumbass shit rather than critique the work itself.

>>212532785
Oh so you're just saying there isn't a fentanyl crisis in this country got it

>>212528823
it's a laundering scheme

>>212533475
I don't think tariffs have anything to do with that.
And I wouldn't call it an emergency, either. It's more of a slow and creeping dread.

>>212529204
shit bait mate

>>212533520
Globe's still getting hotter year by year.
Thankfully, the things they said would help are in fact helping, so the rate of warming is going down.

>>212533475
To be fair, it's mostly just killing white trash and other assorted retards who would tax society if they lived on and who will likely end up dying rapidly by some other means of retardation, DUI, conventional OD, etc. We're not typically losing our best and brightest to fentanyl. If you have any integrity your view of it should be the same as the view for COVID: if it kills you, you were probably going to die soon anyway.

>>212533494
Wouldn't it be easier to just buy detergent?

>>212533564
I'm forever mystified by the problems we have with directing these unused people to work.
We have prison slaves, why not indenture camps too?

>>212533553
>Globe's still getting hotter year by year.
>so the rate of warming is going down.

>>212533564
FUCK YOU! I lost 3 friends to fentanyl. One of them was just doing coke. He never even did heroin before in his life. The other 2 were heroin addicts, but they were in recovery. All of them had jobs, none of them were criminals, they all families. FUCK YOU.

>>212533453
>There's a highly religious authoritarian government that forces this upon people
You've never lived under a highly religious authoritarian government if you think the US is some kind of caliphate or theocracy lmao.

>Oh no a secular liberal democracy with legalized gay marriage and states with legalized abortion, transexualism, and marijuana , what is this the middle ages? This is just like muh heckin Atwood book...

>>212533589
you think mere detergent can clean up the PATRIARCHY???????

>>212533698
Yes, it is getting hotter every year, but at a rate that is slowing due to the numerous efforts being put in place to reduce CO2 in the air.
We've not entirely solved the problem, but we're getting there.

After this one is solved, we can then worry about, in no particular order: Meteors, global cooling, pulsars, and more.

>>212533438
>I understand this problem, as nobody ever agrees on what communism or capitalism is.
There's different kinds of communism and capitalism, fascism also had a lot of unique movements. Fascism, communism, and capitalism can be broadly define and understood. China is not fascist , it's just authoritarian.

>>212533723
I mean, the religious DID block medical research numerous times. It's why we're behind on stem cells, organ cloning, and human genetic engineering.

>>212533755
>but at a rate that is slowing due to the numerous efforts being put in place to reduce CO2 in the air.
Anon carbon emissions have still been steadily increasing as our population increases, if the earth is cooling it's not due to a sudden decrease in co2

>>212533808
It's not cooling, it's still heating, just less fast.
The rate of heating has decreased, but has not stopped.
Because the rate at which we're putting CO2 into the air has reduced by a wide margin compared to projections, and the green energy and nuclear power shit is actually helping.

>>212533777
>stem cells, organ cloning, and human genetic engineering.
Oh no, the horror. How the fuck am I supposed to enjoy my cyberpunk future now? Where's my heckin designer organs???

>>212533755
>unironically believing in anthropogenic climate change
>2012+13
Shiggy diggy anon

>>212533871
It's basically been proved correct at this point, and is now more of a historical note that some people used to not believe in it.

>>212533438
>I wouldn't call it the largest problem out there, but it's a fucking problem.
How? All they're realistically doing is arguing with you on 4chan.
>And did you think trump was only bypassing federal laws? He's also bypassing local laws.
Not at anywhere close to the scale he'd have to to be considered fascist.
Again, actual fascists abolished local governments and replaced them with appointees from the capital. And not just local governments that were opposed to them either, they ran everything centrally. America is very very far away from that.
>And I can't think of many fascist states that don't have exaggeratedly large wealth gaps.
Pic related is the fascist state everyone thinks about when they hear "fascist state".

>>212533453
>And there are legal ways to go about that. Bypassing those legal ways is a fascist mindset.
but nobody is bypassing anything.
ICE is a legal entity operating within the law. Deporting illegal aliens is not illegal.

>Obama...
Obama didn't deport shit. The Obama administration reclassified border turn aways as deportations and rubes have been repeating that meaningless statistic ever since.

>>212533893
Explain similar rates of climate change on Mars and Jupiter. Are there Martian oil companies?

>>212533867
I'd just enjoy having transplants when needed, and screening for horrible genetic problems.
The spray on skin is nice too, I wish we had more of that.

>>212533438
>>212533897
forgot pic

>>212533860
>just less fast
Not from what I've read, I don't think there s been any decrease in hearing. Where are you sourcing this from? I

>>212528655
according to that article, trump is responsible for 14 million deaths so far this term. Do you understand how delusional you are? You're almost certainly a bot or shill, but on the off chance you're not, think about that.

>>212533908
Things that aren't humans can also affect the climate.
>>212533940
some shit I read like six months back. Heating is going up slower, in a manner that matches our CO2 rates going up slower.
Shit's turning around and looking pretty optimistic. We're not done yet, but it's certainly do-able.

>>212533974
>Things that aren't humans can also affect the climate
Indeed they can. Given similar or greater rates of change on planets without humans, it then follows that the climate change experienced on Earth is not anthropogenic.

>>212533922
Eh, I'm fine with the religious dragging their feet on that desu. Organ transplants being more available and human generic engineering would be literally eugenic but I understand people not necessarily trusting US institutions with the research

Their period sync up and they all start doing the same stupid shit. Literal NPCs walking among us.

>>212533897
they're voting, anon.

And can you not see how bypassing local governments entirely could be construed as a bit fascist?
>Actual fascists
Ah, no TRUE fascist, I see.


And nazis are like, 5th on my list when I think of fascists, anon. Maybe 3rd.
Russia and china are way higher.

>>212534017
No, it doesn't follow at all. We have great evidence that the current changes are caused by humanity, and the heat is following the CO2 output relatively closely.

>>212534042
>Russia and china are way higher
>Fascists
>Bypassing local governments as part of a built in, legal hierarchy in a democracy is anti democratic
Anon local governments don't have authority over the feds as much as they would be kickass

>>212533511
>And I wouldn't call it an emergency, either. It's more of a slow and creeping dread
uh huh
>>212533564
and then you sit there in the dark lit by dim glow of your laptop screen befuddled muttering to yourself "Why do they vote against my agenda? Why don't they see they're voting against they're own self interest?"

Time and time again you have demonstrated your hatred and disdain for them. Why would they vote for a party that cackles gleefully when little girls drown and thousands die from poison smuggled from overseas, a party who clearly wants them dead?

>>212534018
I trust the US institutions more than the chinese institutions. I am BAFFLED why you are OK letting other nations get a head start on this.
They're going to make something retarded and dangerous, like a gene altering plague. Thank god the last one was relatively minor.

>>212534092
anon, hatred and disdain is CONSTANT for the political opponent.
There is not a day that goes by that you people don't call the entire left satanic evil communists.
God forbid that you get similar treatment as you give.

>>212529072
THINK OF THE HECKING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT RAPISTS

>>212534078
Correlation does not equal causation. Again, given a similar or greater rate of change in our solar system over the same period of time without any anthropogenic cause on those other planets, it follows that our own climate change is not anthropogenic. It would be one thing if it was just us. It isn't.

>>212534080
Centralization's centralization.

>>212534154
Again, that doesn't follow, given the preposterously large amount of evidence, and how we've shown we can directly adjust the rate of heating via changing the rate of CO2 release.

You insisting it's otherwise does not overturn that this is a problem that has moved past theory and into practice, showing demonstratable effect.

>>212534135
>There is not a day that goes by that you people don't call the entire left satanic evil communists
There's a difference between calling you evil communists (which you are) and celebrating when your children die.

>>212534135
see?
>>212534140
You people can't help yourselves but view the other in the most dim light possible.

>>212534214
You people celebrate when leftists die constantly, children or no, you dishonest piece of shit.

>>212534191
You didn't prove anything. Like the other anon noted, carbon emissions have INCREASED, not decreased as you claim and the rate of heating hasn't decreased unless you count wildly inaccurate computer projections that determined Mendenhall glacier would've melted into the ocean 5 years ago. The only person insisting their world view is correct while ignoring the actual evidence is (You). Again, if climate change at current rates were only present on Earth for the given time period, you would be correct. But it isn't just us, so you aren't. That's why your world view is incorrect: it's a world view that ignores the systemic view where changes are also occurring.

>>212534285
They're increasing SLOWER than they used to be.
Which matches with the heat, which is increasing SLOWER than it used to be.

I can't really take the rest of your statement seriously at all if you've failed at such a basic reading task as this.

>>212534042
>And can you not see how bypassing local governments entirely could be construed as a bit fascist?
I guess. In the same way as drinking one sip of beer can be construed as being a bit of an alcoholic.
>Actual fascists
>Ah, no TRUE fascist, I see.
Actual fascists as in the PNF and the NSDAP.
>And nazis are like, 5th on my list when I think of fascists, anon. Maybe 3rd.
>Russia and china are way higher.
China does meet the definition (or at least comes as close to it as any currently extant state), though you're in an extreme minority if that's the first country you think of when you hear fascist.
As for how you got Russia I have no idea. They don't remotely resemble fascism, neither under Putins regime or any previous government.

>>212534242
>You people celebrate when leftists die constantly, children or no, you dishonest piece of shit.
Adult leftists actively engaged in leftism?
Certainly.
Children that die in natural disasters? No.

>>212534164
I mean yeah but a heavily centralized democracy isn't fascism it's just an inferior democracy

>>212534325
No, you celebrate children too, you dishonest piece of shit.

>>212534313
The term "fascism" covers a lot more than you seem to want it to, I guess is the problem here.

>>212534336
and the government isn't fascist yet.

>>212534218
>calls everyone fascists
>woah, you're looking at people in such a dim light!!!!

>>212534309
Oh, so now green house gas emissions is linearly related to climate change instead of exponentially and your entire model is broken and your initial arguments can be discarded as fantasy because it's wholly built on an exponential relationship. OR... or... hear me out, OR it's unrelated to greenhouse gas emissions and is a problem with the sun.

>>212534378
I've been mainly arguing from the definition you yourself posted, while giving some historical examples to clarify my points.

>>212534425
That's a weird way of interpreting data that is exactly as the models predicted, anon.
I think you might just be like 20 years out of date and kind of bad at reading.

>>212534351
No I don't sorry to disappoint you.
Unlike you leftists and your obsession with your abortion sacrament I adore children.

>>212534458
An outright lie, last time there were fires in california you people had block parties. Many children died.

>>212534437
But you keep arguing centralization isn't REAL centralization and such, so you seem to have a pretty obvious problem with this.

>>212534418
Yes yes, you can dish but cannot take banter, I know.

>>212534416
I mean by this definition you would be calling the Venetian and Novgorod Republics as fascist , fascism is a very specific kind of totalitarian ultra nationalist ideology and government

>>212527558
MEGACORP presents:
>the book thinly based on America and Israel's biggest geopolitical adversary in the Middle East:
>featuring the rape fantasies of the most privileged demographic in America with explicit classist overtones
>now you can pretend to be oppressed for the price only a upper middle class urban professional can afford while voting to undercut working class wages through immigration
It's the entire American Left summarized in a single product, I love it.

>>212534538
Note how the definition has several characteristics, and not just one.
And that I've not called america fascist.

>>212534092
I'm actually politically right leaning. I'm legitimately just tired of meth heads and other assorted white trash thinking we're on the same team just because we voted for the same politician. I'm tired of having retards come up and go "HELLO BROTHER! YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP AS WELL? NOW LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOW THE EARTH IS FLAT AND HOW MATHEMATICS IS A LIE!" I'm not your friend. I don't give a shit about you or the dumb shit you believe. I have more in common with a black dentist that voted for Harris than I do with a white guy working at Walmart and in recovery who seems to think we're peers. I flat out do not care about the fentanyl issue in the slightest.
>>212533699
Wow. Sorry for the loss of your cokehead and 2 heroin addict friends. I'm sure they were running a start up, flying an airline, or doing cancer research.

>>212534537
>it's just banter when I screech how everyone is a Nazi
shut the fuck up you dumb shit.

>>212534449
>interpreting data that is exactly as the models predicted
The models predicted that Mendenhall glacier was gonna be dispersed into the Gastineau channel years ago. Why are you lying and say the were correct? Either raw GHG = delta heat which is what those models were built on or delta GHG = delta heat and they can safely be thrown out because so long as the rate of increased GHG emissions remains constant or lessens, there is no threat. Either way, your models are wrong because correlation does not equal causation as evidenced by lack of any possibility of climate change being anthropogenic on other planets experiencing the same climate changes we have

>>212534582
Man you're fucking obsessed with nazis, despite me not calling you one.

>>212534603
So, yes, you are in fact 20 years behind and kind of bad at reading.
I don't think I can fix that for you.

>>212534570
No but you did call Russia and China fascist when they're clearly both not. It's a very specific ideology and mindset not just individual characteristics of a society.

>>212534641
>NUH UH EDUCATE YOURSELF
Sasuga. The uneducated anthropogenic climate change fag outs himself once again because all he knows how to do is parrot bad science.

>>212534661
It doesn't really seem that way at all.

>>212534674
>seem that way
So, what, fascism is just a vibe?

>>212534672
If you want to cling to old research to make yourself feel better about your outdated worldview, feel free.
It's not like anything rides on you being right here, the changes are already going into effect worldwide.

>>212534508
I'm arguing that modern America is on the decentralized side of the spectrum. More centralized than prior to the civil war, or the civil rights era, but nowhere close to where you find fascist states.

>>212534701
It's a word, like any other. you don't have to match 100% of the definition to be that word, nor do you have to match all of the definitions. That's how english works.

>>212534715
You realize the studies on extraterrestrial climate are more recent than your anthropogenic bullshit, right?

>>212534772
they're not.

>>212534746
So you'd be fine calling America Marxist Leninist?

>>212534779
>Nu uh
Anything new to add to your pile of bullshit, punchy?

>>212534792
nah, I'd call it a socialized free market.

>>212534797
You cannot be more modern than current. At most they are simultaneous.

>>212534803
Sounds like some commie gobbledy gook

>>212534609
oh sorry, I meant fascists. I mix up all the buzzwords you people toss out every time you don't like something.

>>212534841
A current theory based on outdated data, (You), is more outdated than a more recent theory based upon extremely recent research.

>>212534866
you're not the masked military personnel kidnapping people, are you?

>>212534477
>An outright lie, last time there were fires in california you people had block parties. Many children died
Oh
>Oh vey it was real in my mind you!

>>212534884
CO2 and temperature are constantly monitored. you're kind of retarded to not know this.

>>212534922
You're a lying piece of shit.

>>212534905
yes, I'm under your bed right now. Boo!

>>212534984
so, no.

>>212534966
Shhhhh.

>>212535028
Perhaps next time don't act so goddamn gleeful when natural disasters happen if it hurts your feelings so much.

>>212534937
And yet despite increases in GHG emissions, contrary to your claims, here you are claiming that a decrease in delta temp means climate change is anthropogenic, which doesn't track given your models. What does track is that climate change is occurring on other planets in our solar system, at similar or greater rates. These planets have exactly 0% chance of anthropogenic climate change, but you are ignoring them because it doesn't suit your narrative. But yeah, I'm the one who's out of date with the research, certainly not (You).

>>212535095
No, less CO2 producing less heat is entirely on model. I think you're confused.

And I just checked, mars isn't having this kind of global warming right now. Why are you lying?

>>212533867
This. Fuck medical technology. Fuck science. Fuck college.

>>212535085
but that's what you did anon. No one had block parties celebrating dead children in California.