Thread 212543478

If you are going to see the new Superman movie as an adult you're fucking pathetic.

>>212543478 (OP)
Moore is the biggest Supermanfag on the planet earth and is definitely going to see this even if he'll pretend he didn't

>>212543478 (OP)
He's correct, but I'd have to see the full quote to know if he tried to cop out like a fag and make this an anti-right thing only, when it's clearly an issue on both sides of the aisle.

>>212543478 (OP)
This is clickbait that ironically does exactly what people have done for decades with Alan Moore, and that is rob his words of nuance.

Here’s the full quote:

>“I said round about 2011 that I thought that it had serious and worrying implications for the future if millions of adults were queueing up to see ‘Batman’ movies,” Moore said. “Because that kind of infantilization – that urge towards simpler times, simpler realities – that can very often be a precursor to fascism.”

Considering the rise of popularity in superhero films in America happened to coincide with the rise of fascism in America, clearly, he wasn’t wrong. This isn’t to suggest that all people who watch superhero media are fascists in waiting. Plenty of hardcore leftists went to go see Deadpool vs Wolverine and šöÿëd the fuck out. But large swaths of the audience are not self-aware. They don’t consciously see how simple heroes and simple villains color their perspective of the world. Much in the same way someone like Zack Snyder and millions of other comic fans fundamentally misunderstood the finer points of Watchmen, and only saw how cool Rorschach was. Part of this is a failure of the education system, the crafty propaganda (both conscious and subconscious) of modern entertainment outlets (that includes the news), the corporatization of America and the resistance by the American government to change the status quo. Superhero media is more so emblematic of those problems than say, being a root cause. It’s the symptom of the disease.

>>212543478 (OP)
This fag came from a poor white town yet donated millions to BLM. his opinion on whats pathetic is of no value.

Were y'all not paying attention in holocaust class when they said Hitler was inspired by superman comics?

Learn.*clap* From.*clap* The.*clap* Past.*clap* People.

It's time to get serious about this crap.

>no don't investigate the woke slop we show your kids!!!!
Don't care groomer, dilate.

>>212543478 (OP)
I just can't take any man who thinks he is a real life wizard seriously no matter what he says.

>>212543478 (OP)
He's right, but there's no real solution save the idiotic pipe dream of "revolution", a concept that ultimately burns out and self destructs whether its the 1960s or the 1920s

>>212543478 (OP)
>infantilisation as precursor to fascism
>Trump uses baby language
How did he know?

>>212543846
you will never have kids (and that's a good thing)

>>212543478 (OP)
>>212543591
They're just fun adventure movies where the heroes and villains have interesting powers and fun costumes. Stop being such fake pretentious cunts in a transparent effort to feel superior about something.

>>212543817
Why are racists constantly compelled to talk about how racist they are 24/7? No one cares /pol/tard.

Wwf, sports ball, porn are the same. Distraction by low IQ bs

>>212544193
Yes, entertainment is a distraction by definition. Who was arguing otherwise? Did you think you were cooking with that astute observation?

>>212543745
Collecting comic books redpilled me on everything.
Exterminate Israel
Exterminate the libshits
Exterminate the niggers
Heil Batman

>>212543959
Nothing in the post you're responding to was "racist". Are you having a schizo meltdown?

>>212544579
Comic books to learn about the Israeli tricks?

>>212543478 (OP)
>be me
>pretty much a full blown Nazi at this point
>hate capeshit because it's infantile garbage peddled by Jews

What does that make me then Mr. Moore?

>>212543478 (OP)
But fascists hate capeshit and entertainment in general. All they ever do is bitch about how woke everything is.

>>212543745
>Considering the rise of popularity in superhero films in America happened to coincide with the rise of fascism in America, clearly, he wasn’t wrong.

We hate capeshit tho

>>212544782
Pretty sure you still like moves like Cobra, Dirty Harry and Rolling Thunder, though. Which was the capeshit of the day.

>>212543859
>He's right, but there's no real solution save the idiotic pipe dream of "revolution", a concept that ultimately burns out and self destructs whether its the 1960s or the 1920s

>>212544854
Again, you fail to understand Moore’s words. And my words too, apparently.

The average American isn’t a full blown Nazi with swastikas and pictures of Goebbels lining their walls. In fact, if you asked the average American about that, they would recoil and exclaim, “MY GRANDPARENTS FOUGHT THOSE MONSTERS!”
But the average American is an idiot. And incredibly hypocritical. They will spout that they hate Nazis while also supporting Trump and the destruction of Palestine. They just genuinely don’t possess the critical thinking capacity to create connections in their brains anymore.

>>212544782
Moore is just a self-hating cuck who spent his entire career writing comics that were 100% aimed at an older audience and then bitching endlessly about how adults shouldn't read comics. The Man makes no sense whatsoever.

>>212544782
A retard. Congrats.

>>212544941

You cannot be a Fascist and like Jewish brainrot like capeshit

>>212543478 (OP)
Didn't he wrote a pedo comic book about alice in wonderland?

>>212543745
The movie depicts rorschach as choosing to die rather than compromise in the face of an overwhelming enemy that just killed millions of people. Its only natural to find the most heroic character in the movie cool. Maybe the comic depicted him differently?

>>212545150
Fascism cannot exist in the way that it used to. It’s not the 1930s anymore. It has to evolve. Its evolution is through the complacency of an apathetic public that lives in too much comfort to oppose the authoritarian policies of its leaders.
If the only people we had to worry about were MAGA cultists, there wouldn’t be a problem. Fascism would be gone the moment Trump leaves office. But that’s not going to be the case.

>>212545158
Yeah, but he wrote it for children. Just like his book about prostitutes getting mutilated and his book about anarchist revolution.

>>212543478 (OP)
>dude fascism lmao
yeah, we get it Alan, you don't like fascism and you're always scared its going to happen, anytime, in two more weeks. why don't you write another comic about it?

>>212543478 (OP)
the hell is this guy even talking about even more

I am tired of manchildren who treat comic books as a fucking religion Superman is not real who cares if he becomes evil kills people or is gay he is a fictional character Superheroes should be like Adam West Batman

>>212543959
You could argue that the intrinsic dogma of "good guys winning" and "it's the end of the world if the baddies win" is quite an extremist point of view when applied to real life.
The logic would be that people can separate media from real life easily but in a lot of cases, as you can see with "wokeness", a "educational/propaganda" message is ingrained in the film.
Also, it could be rationalized that people that derive enjoyment from such slop content without any kind of humanity behind it are more likely to be susceptible as they lack the ability to critique the medium and its ideas.

>>212545193
So fascism has to evolve until it has nothing to do with fascism? Just like socialism had to "evolve" into late stage capitalism but with rainbow glags?

>>212543478 (OP)
True but being cucked out of your marriage by a chick you brought in as a side-hustle is pretty pathetic as well.

>>212544839
Yarp fascists hate games which is why jews had to ruin all the games fascists like

>>212544941
What's with you retards and Palestine? Seriously every second post you bring that shit up. Nobody cares.

>>212543745
>Considering the rise of popularity in superhero films in America happened to coincide with the rise of fascism in America
Define fascism

>>212544941
This. Fascism is caused by inferior stock people propagating and infecting society with their stupidity.

>>212544941
Worship of Israel is totally bipartisan in America, if anything trump is more restrained in it than some of his predecessors.

>>212545556
"Not Liberal Democracy and sometimes third world shitholes" is the only definition you'll ever need. Soviet Union, Pharaonic Egypt, Ukrainian Free Teritory, all fascist.

>>212543745
>the rise of fascism in America,
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>212545598
That's because he's an antisemite.

>>212545639
People not willing to support Arabs who tend to send terrorists and migrant hordes to western countries.

>>212545636
Define liberal democracy

>>212545585
It’s not necessarily an inferior stock of person. The idiocy and hypocrisy isn’t innate. It’s conditioned over a long period of time. Hell, I’ve even caught myself being susceptible to it. “Ignorance is bliss” is a popular expression for a reason. Even if you’re a high IQ individual who is very capable of learning and becoming well-read, the temptation to shut yourself off apathetically and focus on your own self-centered hedonism is overwhelming. Especially when you have a lack of community, sense of purpose, so on and so forth. And pretty much all of us in America are raised with the notion that the only thing that brings us true value is capital. Not exactly conducive to building empathetic, smart or happy individuals.

>>212545709
>Especially when you have a lack of community, sense of purpose, so on and so forth. And pretty much all of us in America are raised with the notion that the only thing that brings us true value is capital.
Yeah, well known indicators of fascism: individualism and hedonism.

>>212545746
Again, fascism has changed. It doesn’t require people to be complicit like the days of old. It just requires silence and inaction at the sight of your government doing wrong.

>>212544941
you do not belong here.
at least you're not a ragebaiting incel like most of your peers who come here to spew propaganda

>>212543959
>They're just fun adventure movies where the heroes and villains have interesting powers and fun costumes.

>>212543478 (OP)
Captain America is WOKE!

>>212544579
They needed a palatable bipedal as the weak link to carry broad control signal over life.
The are using isotopes to have people around that didn't add to the value of support.
God doesn't want his energy supply used to further and nothing in or out but the recordings.

>>212545786
Fascism as a rule required people's involvment. That's what made it different from the systems that came before it. You may as well talk about "feudalism changing". You have no analysis, you spew weak leftslop, you are a liberal, you never read marx.

>>212544941
>if you asked the average American about that, they would recoil and exclaim, “MY GRANDPARENTS FOUGHT THOSE MONSTERS!”
>They will spout that they hate Nazis while also supporting Trump and the destruction of Palestine.
Seems pretty consistent to me. The average American loves and supports jews, no matter what.

>>212544962
Teenagers in the '80s were more advanced than adults today

>>212545786
But people saw the government doing wrong and voted for Trump so they obviously weren't fine with complacency.

>>212545845
Not as woke as Supes

>>212545883
Rules change because people change. You’re talking about a system that is overwhelmingly outdated and would never work in the modern world under those original stipulations. Neither would old school propaganda. It’s too transparent. We live in a different age. At this point, I wonder if you’re even capable of reconciling that.

>>212544962
Moore is just anglo Miyazaki. Down to love of cunny.

>>212545845
>>212545937
Damn... maybe Moore was on to something

>>212545903
Everybody prefers jews to Muslims for obvious reasons.

>>212545948
You insist that "a system" is still a system even if you change all of its parts. But I guess you must to od you are to reconcile the fact that you believe yourself to be some kind of a leftist while shilling for neoliberalism. You are a skinwalker in a red fleshsuit and no mental gymnastics will change that.

>>212543478 (OP)
>if you like superheroes you're a fascist
Cool. Why did he spend his entire career making superhero comics then?

>>212546067
Yeah, funnily enough he wrote one of the best Superman stories himself.

>>212546067
They were deep critiques and deconstructions of superheroes, guess you're not media literate enough to get it.

>>212545932
They should had voted for BRAT kamala so twitter "leftists" could enjoy global hegemony without guilt. Fascism is when libs are confronted with consequences of their crimes.

>>212543478 (OP)
Imagine caring what this guy has to say about fascism being on the rise.

>>212545954
>anglo Miyazaki
Miyazaki made actual kino though, and as far as I can tell he loves White people and European culture; he just hates America (which is fair).

>>212546008
Seems like Americans also prefer them to Germans and even their own selves, seeing how they proudly sacrifice themselves for them.

>>212545786
>It doesn’t require people to be complicit like the days of old.
Holy shit. Read a history book and get some perspective before typing another post you pretentious bloviating retard.

>>212546101
>every Alan Moore story is Watchmen
Holy media illiteracy Batman!

>>212546047
And so, the mask comes off. If you wanted to insult me, you could have done that a while ago. You didn’t have to entertain a conversation if all you wanted to do was engage with your bad faith arguments. You might as well just debate the imaginary person you’ve made up in your head as opposed to wasting your time in addition to mine. Have a good night.

>>212546184
Did he write anything else that was relevant? Even Watchmen barely qualifies.

>>212546174
Funny how Nazis always insist you read history books while being woefully ignorant of history themselves. It’s almost as if you’re disingenuous or something.

>>212546191
I don't insult you by pointing that you are a liberal hiding behind pseudo-marxist buzzwords for some uneraned ligitimacy. I'm just stating a fact.

>>212546215
Swamp Thing was hugely influental, though arguably carried by the artists, especially Rick Veitch who cowrote parts of it as well
From Hell is an important Alan Moore comic but that is also hard carried by Eddie Campbell's art
I guess League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Which is him just playing with other people's toys.

>>212546215
>Did he write anything else that was relevant?
V for Vendetta the funni meme mask a thing, while Killing Joke is also 80s comic megakino and served as the direct inspiration for 2019 Joker.

>>212546215
Lost Girls.

>>212544193
>no fun allowed
>just wage slave and do nothing else

>>212546215
>Did he write anything else that was relevant?
V for Vendetta made the funni meme mask a thing, while Killing Joke is also 80s comic megakino and served as the direct inspiration for 2019 Joker.

>>212546184
>media illiteracy
People who use that term are brainwashed retards.

>>212546274
>and served as the direct inspiration for 2019 Joker.
No. Joker was just The King of Comedy with DC character names. The only connection between the 2019 movie and The Killing Joke is Joker being a failed stand-up comedian, and in TKJ bombing on stage was something he complained to his wife about, not something we actually saw him do.
You either didn't see Joker 2019 or you didn't read The Killing Joke.

>>212546164
So who ISNT serving the jews right now and how does one do that? I mean aside from killing them which right now seems to be your only definition.

>>212546228
Funny how brainwashed retards like yourself have Chicken Little'd the idea of Nazism to the point it has lost all meaning.

>>212546312
>and served as the direct inspiration for 2019 Joker.
No. Joker was just The King of Comedy with DC character names. The only connection between the 2019 movie and The Killing Joke is Joker being a failed stand-up comedian, and in TKJ bombing on stage was something he complained to his wife about, not something we actually saw him do.
You either didn't see Joker 2019 or you didn't read The Killing Joke.

>>212546325
I know, that's why I used it

>>212546390
>didn't read The Killing Joke
This one, because I'm not a faggot that reads American comics.

>>212546283
I'm pretty sure that one is technically illegal in a lot of states.

damn this oldfag still has a full head of hair

>>212546142
Moore is ironically the exact sort of fag that would be censored is soviet union and get on cia dissident payroll. Commies had no patience for this bullshit.

>>212546405
>written by British writer
>drawn by British artist

>>212546228
Just calling people Nazis doesn't lend credibility to you claim that you are very literate.

>>212546432
He thinks he's an actual wizard. Like doesn't say it as a joke, he literally, for real thinks he has magic powers.
Grant Morrison thinks of himself as a shaman. The two are at constant at odds

>>212546454
"Nazi" is an opossite of wholesome chungus. Why would you want to be that?

>>212546460
Also very good friends with Neil Gaiman who recently got outed as a total sex pest.

>>212546434
>wrote and drew for American comic company
>worked with American characters and set the story in America

>>212546460
I guess I stand corrected. In soviet union they would put him in a psych ward.

>>212546454
Yeah, I suppose it was awfully presumptuous to label you as such. I’m sure you’re a very tolerant, loving, compassionate person who definitely wouldn’t jump at the chance to eliminate people who you don’t like at the push of a button. I’m sorry.

>>212546522
You don't have to be a Nazi to be racist, that was ltierally every human being ever before 1945.

>>212546080
I knew wizards were involved in making it.

>>212546522
>anarchists and communists are also nazis
Holy liberalism, batman!

>>212546522
>me good, loving, smart
>you genocidal, hateful, dumb

I know I know
>that's just tribalism, the right acts the exact same way
Do they though? Studies show that right wingers are considerably better at judging leftists opinions, arguments and standpoints while left wingers rend to have a rather warped perception of the right, this is very noticable in public discourse and personal experiences as well. Not to mention the constant string of failures by leftist media and "experts" when it comes to making any projections.

>>212546485
Being concerned with "sex crimes" is a fascist trait. Read Adorno.

>>212546538
>>212546571
Is there a reason you’re being so coy about being Nazis who hate marginalized people? Did /tv/ make a new rule or something? You don’t have to hide your power level and continue being so insincere. You’re in good company.

Moore is a commie faggot retard

>>212546647
>Studies show
What studies? How the hell would you even calculate that in a scientific study?

>>212546659
>Is there a reason you’re being so coy about being Nazis
My Great Grandfather's brother died in a POW camp at the hands of the SS while my Great Grandfather fought the Japanese for the entire duration of the war in the CBI; and yet you'd lose your fucking shit and call him a Nazi if you heard what he thought about Blacks, Jews, or the Japanese lol.

>>212543478 (OP)
this man has been seething about superheroes for over 40 years now because he signed a shitty deal with DC

>>212546736
Weird. I didn’t ask about your great grandfather’s views. I asked about yours. But you keep dodging the question.

>>212546700
Academic studies, it's pretty easy, just ask a leftist how he thinks a conservative would answer certain questions then ask a conservative what a leftist would think.

To lazy to Google but the result was pretty conclusive. Leftists don't really know what the right really wants or thinks which obviously shows in discourse as well and tends to result in the claim that the right just hides their "true" intentions and beliefs.

>>212546164
Both benefit from each other.

>>212546766
>I asked about yours
They're pretty much the same as his lol (barring the Japanese, but I totally understand why he felt the way he felt given he experienced them at their most depraved and evil every single day for several years), that's what I'm trying to say.

>>212546659
Im sorry but no amount of sniffing for nazis will stop you from being a shitlib. Own it! Do a coup in the third world! Paint a rainbow on a bomb before it falls on some brown kids! You earned it.

>>212544782
A faggot

>>212546794
Just give it up man, he just assumes you are lying which in his mind acts as further proof he is right.

>>212546145
He talked shit about LOTR, I doubt he likes Europe

Fascism is based.
Democracy is for retards, by retards

>>212546860
If only more people were as self-aware and as honest as you. Alas, most are either too ignorant or in denial.

>>212546860
This, enjoy your Dear fascist Leader, Ursula Van Der Leden.

>>212543478 (OP)
Ironic coming from a comic book author

>>212545512
Video games are a jewish invention
>Ralph Baer (born March 8,1922) is a German-American video game pioneer, inventor, engineer, known as "The Father of Video Games",[1] who is noted for his many contributions to games and the video game industry. In 2006, he was awarded the National Medal of Technology for inventing the home console for video games and spawning the video game industry

>>212546855
>I doubt he likes Europe
He got the inspiration for Nausicaa from a series of illustrations by a French artist named Moebius (who he later became close friends with), Kiki's was influenced by photographs of 1950s Sweden and the landscapes/towns of Visby, Castle In The Sky was influenced by 1980s British coal strikes, the countryside of Wales, and the literature of Jules Verne and Jack London, Porco Rosso is an Ernest Hemingway parody, and Howl's took direct influence from the industrial cities of Alsace and German rule over the region.
Shitty meme takes on LOTR aside, his movies are unironically more "European" than virtually anything mainstream made by actual European filmmakers in the past 40 years.

>>212546960
You can tell pretty much any story in a comic book medium, be it Peppa Pig or Shakespeare.
What's ironic is Alan Moore being on the record that he disliked sillier comic book adaptations like Adam West Batman, and wanting more serious takes on them. When that formula worked with TDK and the first Iron Man, it inevitably led to the success of these movies and now he's upset.

>>212546992
>his movies are unironically more "European" than virtually anything mainstream made by actual European filmmakers in the past 40 years
lol no

>>212543478 (OP)
>STOP HAVING FUN

>>212547013
He is literally the pioneer of "adult" superhero stories.

>>212546432
Yeah, that's what always struck me as funny about that particular photo. I actually think he's a great (fiction) writer, but a lot of his IRL takes and general desire to be a real wizard just silly.

>>212547030
>lol no
There is not a single European filmmaker of the artistic or commercial caliber of Miyazaki in the past 40 years who has made films so unabashedly in love with Europe and Europeans as Miyazaki.
>t. /film/ fag

>>212546981
Absolutely based jews then.

>>212547059
He's what they call a "useful idiot"

>>212547060
More like
>t. /a/fag with surface level knowledge on European cinema
go back zoomer

>>212543478 (OP)
all ideologies are fascist in practice

>>212543478 (OP)
>Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control
Pegg
>Embracing of unambiguously childrens characters indicates a retreat from the overwhelming complexities of modern existence
Moore
>Fans dont wanna admit SW is for children, get upset about being childlike
Lucas
>A 12yo boy had seen SW over a 100 times: I said can you promise never to see it again? He burst into tears. I hope the lad, now in his 30s, isnt living in a fantasy world of childish banalities
Guinness
>SW created the big-budget comics mentality, ate the heart & the soul of Hollywood
Schrader
>Superheroes flying around in spandex saving the world are fine for children, children of all ages btw, but its not for me
Friedkin
>I read comics when I was a kid, now I prefer adult oriented stuff
Eastwood
>Became an elevated art form? Its still Batman running around in a stupid cape. Its for kids, adolescent in its core
Cronenberg
>Action without human beings. A 1st in film history. Kids used to be able to learn how a man should act by watching films. Morals. Comics = heroes for businesses
McTiernan
>I hope we get Avenger fatigue. There are other stories to tell
Cameron
>Superman Vs Spiderman, Vs Iron Man\85 I cant believe people are paying for this shit
Verhoeven
>Spandex must cost a lot. Baffling
Gibson
>Superman makes me vomit. That empire, religion. So important that superheroes suffer\85 I dont give a damn, I shit on the US
Jodorowsky
>Hate em. Theyre bullshit. Grow up
Gilliam
>SW & Superman have nothing to do with art
Tarkovsky
>Theyre punishment
Ceylan
>Poison, cultural genocide. Plot & explosions & shit that means nothing about human experience
Alejandro G. Iñarritu
>Not cinema
Scorsese
>Despicable
Coppola
>Theyre made for kids!
DePalma
>X-Man is for 14yo boys!
Altman
>Theyre going to date very badly
Bogdanovich
>Dull
Fincher
>For children & mongoloids
Boll

>>212547125
>more than half of those have directly contributed to that kind of fiction becoming popular
What did they mean by this?

>>212547082
>/a/fag
They hate Miyazaki and all old shit on /a/, that board is filled with Trannies and Spics that only like shonenslop and nushit.
>surface level knowledge on European cinema
Literally all European cinema since the early 1970s has been postmodern self-hating edgelord shit as everyone tries to chase the dragon of being the next Godard or Pasolini. Don't get me wrong, there's a ton of fantastic kino produced by these types (especially given they are often far more technically skilled than American filmmakers and better writers too), but one thing it all has in common is the deep-seated self hatred and weird worship of non-European cultures (especially sub-Saharan Africa).
I actually watched a movie made by one of those types recently (picrel) that I really, really loved.

>>212547141
In Uwe Boll's case, he's barely made any movies better than even the worst capeshit. Although I'll admit he's a funny guy.

>>212547125
I grew up with the prequel trilogy and I'm with George on this one, SW is for kids and that's okay

>>212546855
I sincerely doubt that guy watched or read LOTR. Tolkiens villains are exactly the same representations of an industrial war machine fighting nature and natural order as Miyazakis.

>>212547184
Depends, I'd say KOTOR had broader appeal thanks to some more mature elements. But yes, a lot of this media is for kids, or more realistically, for people of all ages.

>>212547141
>What did they mean by this?
I imagine it's a Bridge Over The River Kwai thing, where they come to a certain age and realize that they became the very things they set out to prevent/destroy when they were young auteurs but got too deluded on their own farts and all the money rolling in.

>>212543478 (OP)
libs always pic the easiest traget to make them smart, how classic & noble
it's like hit shitsack of downsyndrome kid with your bat and say you're smart, what a brilliant genius

>>212547160
Tell me more about La Bete, I'm interdasted because it has Fragile in it

>>212547160
>Literally all European cinema since the early 1970s has been postmodern self-hating
maybe western european

>>212547260
>Tell me more about La Bete
It's a sui generis sci-fi film about a dystopian, sparsely populated society (implied to have come about due to a combo of COVID or something similar along with cratering birthrates) where people voluntarily become NPCs in order to maximize their productivity and eliminate anguish and bad feelings in return for a permanent state of bliss, complacency, and loyalty to the regime. During this process, you reflect on your past lives, relationships, trauma, and deaths while under sedation so the system can calibrate what parts of your brain to neuter.
It's all about a French woman going through this process and deeply conflicted about losing her humanity as she reflects on her past lives, specifically one as a Belle Epoque debutante who is the daughter of a welthy doll manufacturer and another where she's a burned out hypergamous party girl trying out to be a model in mid-2010s Los Angeles. Particularly, she keeps experiencing star-crossed love with this one guy she bumps into on her way to the treatment facility (who in the one reality where she's a model he's a literal Elliot Rodger type deeply torn between trying to start something real with her or kill her, while she wants to try something with him given her life is meaningless and she's numb to sex and drugs).
It's a fantastic, very unique film that I can't recommend enough, given I'd argue it's the first movie to really seriously tackle a lot of the serious , existential issues related to the sexes and their current relationships to each other, as well as how government policy and science factor into the equation to pave the road to a dystopian hellscape. Probably the first 10/10 sci-fi kino of the decade so far.

>>212547280
>western european
The issue is that Russian cinema with the exception of some stuff from the 90s and 00s has been mostly propaganda action films or state-funded feelgood crap akin to what China does; and while Poland occasionally makes some kino (picrel sticks out in recent memory), the other Eastern bloc cunts since 1991 have been just too small and too fucked over by privatization to be anything more than popular filming locations for Hollywood productions.

>>212547160
/a/spics will still argue that jeets ruined /a/ while there's 50+ and more dbzspicgenerals

>>212547482
Might be cool

>>212547537
>picrel
Me bad, it's late here in the desert.

>>212547082
>european cinema
There is a reason why european """""cinema""""" exists only thanks to taxes stolen from actual working european people.

does Alan Moore have any friends?

>>212547125
>Pegg
Manchild starring exclusively in infantile movies.
>Moore
Infantile drawings author.
>Lucas
Created biggest manchild franchise ever.
>Guiness
Whore hired to play pretend, mistaken his profession for art.
Don't care about the rest, anyone ending in -ski or variant of it or any kind of Pablo are communist pedophiles and thus dismissed.

>>212547550
>jeets ruined /a/
The funny thing is that /a/ is arguably one of the only big boards untouched by Jeets given the sheer amount of Spics and Trannies there makes it impenetrable to anyone else.
>>212547553
If you're into edgy, low-budget sci-fi along the lines of THX-1138, Alphaville, or Altered States you'll really love it.

>>212547612
he's called gayman and unironically accused of arthoe hunter rapist, god I wish I were him

>>212543817
>donated millions to BLM

lol, no he didn't. You're a fool.

>>212547653
>no he didn't
https://www.landmarkcinemas.com/movie-news/alan-moore-gives-dc-comics-royalties-to-black-lives-matter#:~:text=Alan%20Moore%20no%20longer%20receives,money%20to%20Black%20Lives%20Matter.

>>212547191
Topcraft, the studio that produced Nausicaa, also produced The Hobbit and The Return of the King animated films in collaboration with Rankin-Bass. And Studio Ghibli was formed after Miyazaki acquired Topcraft's assets. I find it very implausible that he hasn't at least seen those animated films.

>>212543478 (OP)
He's 100% right. Capeslop and starslop are for manchildren and pajeets.

>>212547653
Alan Moore is self-hating communist subhuman. Dr. Manhattan canonically died in a street brawl with KKK members.

>>212547686
if you showed a child what is described in the pic they would be traumatized, you're a complete retard

>>212547191
>Tolkiens villains are exactly the same representations of an industrial war machine fighting nature and natural order as Miyazakis.
I'd say Miayzaki is far closer to Junger in that regard than Tolkien. On The Marble Cliffs in particular feels like a Ghibli movie waiting to be made.

>>212547686
That pic is 100% Alan Moore, he just writes it instead of watching it.

>>212547706
>they would be traumatized,
so basically 99% of soiennial and zoomer childhoods

>>212547706
Kids aren't that fragile, hence why we used to have good stuff made for them back in the day like Land Before Time

>>212547732
Land Before Time is still a kid flick. If you show a child The Punisher you're not a good parent.

>>212543478 (OP)
It's sad seeing elderly people who have never had to grow out of the 'say whatever makes me popular even if it's retarded' high school mentality. That strategy has never failed him throughout his life so he's never had to question it or stray from it. Leftists really are just spoilt children who have never faced adversity.

>>212547749
The Land Before Time shows multiple deaths on screen. What is your argument?
>The Punisher
Literally originated as a comic book for little boys

>>212547749
kids love edgelord shit like punisher thoughever

>>212547125
>Despicable
>Coppola
Not like the absolute KINO created by the famed lover of children Victor Salva!

>>212547788
There's a difference between Bambi's mother dying, or Mufasa, and a guy getting his head blown apart in graphic fashion.
>>212547793
Yes, but there's a reason why there's an age rating in all media, from movies to comic books, games and so on. If you're showing R rated material to a kid, you're not a good parent.

>>212547686
this pic is basically every anime ever made

>>212546981
based jews

>>212547698
>communist
Retard is an occultist. His very existence is an affront to historical materialism.

>>212543478 (OP)
How did he keep getting dumber every year when he was already so fucking stupid back when he wrote Watchmen?
Yeah the funko pop dudes are about to put the Jews in the gas chamber, for sure Alan. For sure.

>>212543745
He thought an ultra-genius would wallow in the dumbest kind of nihilism of "mall bad dust good"
He is incapable of nuance, his brain is fossilized.

>>212547862
The funko pop dudes would fair better against the brown cavemen who are getting continuously btfo'd by the jews, to be fair. Plus, this is normie media at this point, based on box office returns and so on. The funkos are the niche part of the audience that are the ultra fans.

>>212545187
The comic deconstructed him in retarded ways while making him a great man. Rorschach is the extreme version of Iron Man.
"Can't you see why he's bad? You have to care more about lesbians than behavioral sink into mass murder!" and so on.
The graphic novel is engaging but its lowest points are when the author being a fucking retard are most apparent.

>>212547845
he's just contrarian, always has been

>>212547888
>fair better
Good morning saars.

>>212547925
I take it that comment hit a little too close to home. Thanks for the correction regardless, some browns apparently can read/spell.

>>212543745
>escapism is fascism
yeah nah he's a retard

>>212547937
>If you don't support our greatest ally you're BROWN
Doesn't really work when your most obnoxious defenders online are Indians lol, also my Scots-Irish family from the Deep South has probably been here longer than yours (if you're even American which I doubt).

>>212547988
What did I say about supporting them? I'm saying the quiet part out loud. White nerds would be more capable in a war than brown cavemen.

>>212544775
Maus

>>212547818
>If you're showing R rated material to a kid, you're not a good parent.
It's people like you that are responsible for today's manchild epidemic by the way. Throughout all of human history children were exposed to everything adults were, they raised and butchered the animals they ate and went to the village square to watch criminals and heretics tortured and killed. It's only in the modern era that this idea of sheltering children from everything in the real world has emerged, and it has resulted in generations of people's whose maturity never grows past that of an elementary school kid

>>212543478 (OP)
He wrote the best Superman story though. Still resonant and relevant. Why does he hate his own works that much?

>>212548013
>White nerds would be more capable in a war than brown cavemen.
If that were the case we wouldn't have gotten ran out on a rail in Afghanistan and had to reach a truce with the Houthis.

>>212548029
Spoken like a true nonce

>>212548044
That wasn't a full blown war between two nations, albeit. If the chips are down, even just one nuke would be enough to win overnight.

>>212548037
because he has taste. he has retroactively realized that writing for superhero comics was never (and has never) resulted in anything of real value.

>>212548037
That's not Grant Morrison

>>212548098
There's literally nothing wrong with fiction.

>>212548058
If you're 30 years old and your personality still revolves around Star Wars, Spider-Man and My Little Pony something has gone wrong
Something has gone horribly, horribly wrong

>>212548099
Yes, because Moore is a better writer

>>212548080
>That wasn't a full blown war between two nations
Afghanistan was not only this, but a war between the Taliban and the entirety of NATO and several others for nearly two decades.
>one nuke
Nukes don't do shit against insurgents in sparsely populated areas unless you go full MacArthur, retard. If anything it has the effect all strategic bombing campaigns have on insurgencies, which is that it rallies civs around the cause of the insurgents except on steroids because you dropped a nuke on them.

>>212548128
What the fuck does that have to do with what we're discussing? You're not a good parent if you bombard your child with R-rated material.

>>212548135
No, it really wasn't. Afghanis never came close to doing any real damage to American or European soil. It's not like they could.

>>212548145
>You're not a good parent if you bombard your child with R-rated material
Depends on the type of R desu

>>212548145
And this attitude is the reason why kids never ever grow up and are still mentally stunted toddlers as fully grown adults

>>212548133
Not really, Grant even has a better understanding of magic rituals, not that this shit has any irl merit to it

>>212548173
Ok groomer

>>212548117
there is with superhero fiction.
weekly publishing schedules, a young teenaged audience and the reliance on validation made it impossible to do anything really good once the small number of good ideas were run into the ground.

>>212548167
>Afghanis never came close to doing any real damage to American or European soil
WTF is this cope? They kicked us, our allies, and our regime out fair and square with a mix of conventional and unconventional warfare, diplomacy, and psyops over a period of 20+ years where we occupied virtually every corner of the country and our government was universally recognized internationally.
Going by this logic we didn't fight a full-scale war with Germany in WWII because they never attacked us directly or "did any real damage on American soil".

>>212543478 (OP)
>a precursor to fascism
Considering Moore is a leftist, he probably thinks a lot of things are a "precursor to fascism". But leftists define fascism differently to what it actually is (or was).

>>212546460
That's right, anon. Magick isn't real.

>>212548205
Superhero fiction is just a collection of other fiction, i.e. sci-fi, fantasy, etc. You've got all the tropes in there. The one defining characteristic is that the stories involve heroes, hence the name.

>>212548198
>no argument
Stop watching toddler cartoons. Stop watching superhero movies. Grow the fuck up. Let kids grow up too, let them watch a movie that's PG-13 before they're exactly 13, let them watch R-rated movies before they're 17. Don't tell me you actually think a 16-year-old is too immature to watch an R-rated movie and will be traumatized.
Ratings are arbitrary and often nonsensical. Using curse words is enough to make a film R-rated. Just words.
But I guess you don't like bad words, don't want 40-year-old nintendie or Disney adults to use words like "nigger", do you?

>>212548240
Okay but superhero comics are bottom of the barrel trash regardless. Good comics exist. Chris Ware made some, for example.

>>212548223
It's not at all comparable to Germany in WW2, what are you smoking? Germany in the fucking 40s is still more capable than Afghanis are in 2025.
This wasn't a full blown war, it was very much a military presence and "special operation" as Rasputin likes to say.

>>212548223
America invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11 and for that reason only, not because they had something the west wanted. there was always a timer running and once the studies had been done and we understood that Afghanis really didn't care about improving their standard of living if it protected their nationalist memes, withdrawal was inevitable. it was a worthwhile experiment that taught the West a lot about how authoritarian societies operate and how they end up being kept in place as much by the their citizens general lack of agency as by direct oppression.

>>212543478 (OP)
Who pays attention to this incorrigible Faggot? And why do they care what he thinks?

>>212548264
That boils down to personal opinion. There's good and bad fiction and this applies to superhero fiction as well. And again, virtually the only difference between it and regular fiction are inherently the capes themselves. If you remove the costumes, it's regular fiction.

>being a manchild basedboy isn't leftist, it's actually a form of fascism!
Why is the only meme leftists know is "NO U"?

>>212548246
My argument is that you can't differentiate between media for kids and media for adults, groomer

>>212548297
>There's good and bad fiction and this applies to superhero fiction as well
Except that there is no good superhero fiction, it's all trash. I know, I've been reading it since the 90s. The quality is abysmal.

>>212548322
>I've been reading stuff I hate for 30 years
I'm not buying it

>>212548318
You said that showing a child something like>>212547686
would traumatize them, then when I pointed out The Land Before Time was made for kids and fit that description you shifted to talking about The Punisher (a character who makes his first appearance in the Spider-Man comics, that were 100% made for kids).
Please stop treating kids like retards, or they'll grow up to be manbabies who cry at Star Wars trailers and buy funko pops.

>>212548240
>heroes
they're not heroes as in, humanized protagonists. they are walking props for audience validation and the main ones can't ever be killed off, be given three-dimensional psychlogy, or even meaningfully lose. you can't tell that many stories about them and they are still defined by their origins as children's entertainment.

>>212543478 (OP)
Moore still seething 300 and Rorschach are popular

>>212548350
The Land Before Time is very much a kid flick. Jon Bernthal sawing a man's head off is not.

>>212548336
I am. I've bought way too much of it. It's trash. Run. Run and don't look back. It will ruin your life.

>>212548353
A good chunk of fiction has its origin as child entertainment, such as fairy tales for example. Look at LOTR, it's childs entertainment. Doesn't make it inherently bad or not enjoyable. It all boils down to the fact that there's good and bad fiction.

>>212548336
not him, but I watched a Superman 2025 review and the retard youtuber cited a couple of classic superman stories as examples of what 2025 should have been. I looked up both of them on wikipedia and the plot outlines were enough to confirm that they were literal garbage.

for people who still read comics and enjoy them, its a ritual and they don't apply the same standards they would apply to movies or novels when reading. a Superman story is meaningful to them because its about Superman, and is only judged against other Superman stories. which is like feeling like you have to watch every Jurassic Park film because the first was good. they are mindless consoomers.

>>212543745
>seeking better life is fascism
gee I wonder why nobody takes lefties seriously. I mean even lefties themselves I think don't take themselves seriously. It's like they just say shit to see people's reaction and then go from there

>>212548362
>The Land Before Time is very much a kid flick
Then why did you say a child would be traumatized by>>212547686
ANSWER

>>212543478 (OP)
Growing up is realizing you can do whatever you want without giving a shit about what others think. I still watch and enjoy some superhero movies, transformers type blockbusters, even, embarrassingly, some anime. I'll continue to do that because it's escapism and makes me feel good, since there's things the real world doesn't allow me to do, like juggle buildings or fly.

>>212548414
Are you fucking stupid? Do you not differentiate between some cartoon dinosaur dying, and a fictionalized cartel video?

>>212548386
you're pretending that quality is a characteristic of genre, which is bullshit. War and Peace is better than Avatar The Last Airbender. there are a wider range of meaningful realist drama stories to tell than there are stories about Spiderman.

therefore, the fixation of culture on superman stories is unrelated to quality. people like them BECAUSE they are predictable.

Goo goo ga ga gas the Jews!

>>212548266
>It's not at all comparable to Germany in WW2, what are you smoking?
You were the one who said Afghanistan wasn't a "real war" because the Taliban never "came close to doing any real damage to American or European soil", to which I replied because Germany never attacked American soil or came close to it our intervention in WWII wasn't a "real war" either from our pov.
>This wasn't a full blown war
Just because it's a countrinsurgent conflict in a foreign country doesn't mean it wasn't a real war. A special meme operation would be more like the U.S in Somalia in the 90s or Lebanon and Grenada/Panama in the 80s.
>>212548275
>it was a worthwhile experiment that taught the West a lot about how authoritarian societies operate and how they end up being kept in place as much by the their citizens general lack of agency as by direct oppression
We learned all this fucking shit in Vietnam and further back in the Philippines you knuckle-dragging togdolyte. There was nothing defensible about our presence there after we got Bin Laden (and it turned out he had been in Pakistan since Tora Bora, whoopsie daisies!).
I seriously can't believe /k/ fags and Eglin types go with insane copes like this instead of just taking the L and moving on.

>>212548275
>America invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11 and for that reason only

Why didn't it invade Saudi Arabia considering all attackers were saudi nationals?

>>212543478 (OP)
Just a daily reminder that this man wrote a story Zach Snyder improved. The man who thought the "MARTHA" scene in BvS was a good idea.
>inb4 b-but the squids were better
No, they weren't

>>212548439
No, I there's good and bad fiction. Both of those fictional examples can be consumed by the same audience but one might offer things the other can't. That's why there's critically acclaimed fiction, and such that is considered bad.

>>212548445
>A special meme operation would be more like the U.S in Somalia in the 90s or Lebanon and Grenada/Panama in the 80s.
Yeah, and Afghanistan. Unless you seriously believe a full out war between the two nations would ever result in an Afghan victory. I too think America is pathetic in many respects, but come on, get real.

>>212548425
>Growing up is realizing you can do whatever you want without giving a shit about what others think

actually that's the opposite of growing up.
you mean something like "growing up means understanding when you don't have to conform to other people's social expectations".

>>212548501
Same shit I just said.

>>212543745
This is the most midwit pseudointellectualism imaginable and the fact that you think it has any kind of merit tells everything about you.

>>212548481
>No, I there's good and bad fiction.
and all the good superhero fiction has already been written, and most of it was never that good anyway.

>>212548515
what I said was nuanced. what you said was a blanket generalization. adults care about the difference between the two.

>>212548531
You're welcome to your opinion. To me, it's a midwit take to pigeonhole the entirety of the genre, as the only thing that really differentiates it is superficial, i.e. quite literally the costumes.
How does Jekyll and Hyde differ substantially from the Hulk, for example? Obviously one is more contemporary and has a nuclear radiation theme, but it's a very similar story.
How does Superman differ substantially from a regular fictional story about a benevolent alien who, unlike most depictions, is not hazardous to human society? It differs by the fact that Superman wears a cape. Something which humans have historically done as well.

>>212548547
>le nuance
Nigga it's the same shit, stop trying to flex the non existing Harvard diploma

>>212546460
KINO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTMFBYXmvMk

>>212548582
>but it's a very similar story.
No it isn't. In no way are these two stories the same. Jekyll & Hyde is built up as a mystery story, where other people are trying to figure out why Dr. Jekyll is paying for Mr. Hyde, who is by all accoutns a brute of a man, though not big and strong, rather he's small and described as being "deformed" in how ugly he is. The Hulk is just a super-powered bundle of violence that Banner has no control over, while Jekyll transforms into Hyde intentionally to indulge in his own vices.
You've never read Jekyll & Hyde or Hulk comics, either. I've read both.

>>212543478 (OP)
That's funny, because the group that is most known to frame global politics as popculture and children's media is Reddit Socialists.

>This is just Harry vs Voldemort!!!
Conversely, I've never seen a fascist stoop that low.

>>212548582
>pigeonhole the entirety of the genre
I didn't do that.
does it take a midwit to try to avoid losing an argument by continuously pretending the discussion is about something else? because you definitely aren't engaging with what I'm saying.
>Jekyll and Hyde differ substantially from the Hulk,
the first is a one off story where the protagonist dies and his power is treated as bad. the second is an open-ended IP where the protagonist can never premanently die and his power is the only reason anyone reads about him. the goal, form, tone, and narrative direction of the stories are completely different.

if there can be good and bad fiction the first is good and the second is bad.

>people who don't compromise on morality become fascists

Hmm..

>>212548645
You're missing the point. They're stories of alter-egos coming to the surface that have supernatural, fictionalized elements, as neither Hyde nor Hulk could exist irl. The technicalities of one being in control of the alter-ego and the other not being in control (even though Banner has willingly shifted into the Hulk too) is irrelevant.
>>212548654
>if there can be good and bad fiction the first is good and the second is bad
Because the protagonist's power is treated as bad and he dies? Or some other reason?

>>212546460
>He thinks he's an actual wizard.
no he doesn't. he larps as one and worships a roman snake puppet god that even back in rome was a joke religion, the god itself isnt a puppet of a snake god but a 'puppet snake god'

>>212548497
>can't comprehend how insurgencies work
This is why we can't win anything anymore. You're literally incapable of comprehending conflict that isn't concentional or symmetric, so you just think blowing the most shit up means you win.

>>212548688
Just to add to this, Dracula and the fucking Wolf-Man are existing characters in Marvel too. That's even more on the nose.
So to suggest there's a specific X-factor that strictly differentiates regular fiction from fiction with a different applied DLC skin is not an argument in good faith.
While superhero stories have superficial appeal, the primary appeal is the appeal of all other fiction that deals with such topics and archetypes.

>>212548702
A symmetric conflict between one of the world's most powerful nations, and a bunch of cavemen would be solved overnight. This is the main point I'm making.

>>212548688
>these stories are the same if you ignore literally everything that makes them completely different
Wow, amazing. If you wanted to say Hulk is basically a Werewolf story, then I'd agree with you. But you had to go with Jekyll & Hyde, which is so obviously different that to make them the same you have to ignore everytihng about them except the main character transforming.
I guess literally every story in Ovid's Metamorphoses is also the same as Jekyll & Hyde and The Hulk too. And Kafka's Metamorphosis. And any story with any kind of transformation.
>b-but
No buts, you chose to ignore the contents of the stories because both featured a transformation and claimed they are "very similiar stories" despite the stories (i.e. what actually happens and how) being drastically different in subject matter and execution.
Jekyll becomes Hyde because he wants to. Bruce Banner becomes the Hulk because he tries to save Rick Jones from getting irradiated and is hit with the gamma blast himself. One is inherently selfish, the other inherently altruistic. One labors to maintain his transformations and to keep his double-identity a secret, one wants to be freed of his curse and has his identity publicly known.
Jekyll & Hyde does not translate to the Hulk. A werewolf story does. All transformation stories are not the same.

>>212548650
You're unlikely to "see" a fascist in general since they usually reside in their mother's basement unless Police Academy releases a youtube video of a bust or something

>>212548759
>being drastically different in subject matter and execution.
They're really not.
>Jekyll becomes Hyde because he wants to
And Bruce has shifted into the Hulk because he wants to. For the sake of the argument, let's say the story of the Hulk is more similar to the Wolfman. My argument remains the exact same. It's comparable fiction. To suggest one is drastically different than the other solely because it features different aesthetics is just stupid. And that's the main difference between the two, aesthetics. If you remove Superman's red cape and make him look like a stereotypical grey alien, it's suddenly no longer a superhero film.

>>212548759
The Hulk was inspired by Jekyll and Hyde and Frankenstein, this is on record by his creator. Obviously not a complete rip-off, but the influence is pretty visible.

>>212548811
It's not a matter of just aesthetics, it's a matter of QUALITY. Jekyll & Hyde is a classic while Hulk is pure trash. Do you see the difference?

>>212548854
As presumed, the crux of your argument as to why J&H is better is simply because it came first, during a time period that one could say was more distinguished than the 1960s and produced more classic stories that following decades ripped off. That's fair. But looking at it objectively, there isn't anything in Jekyll and Hyde or Bram Stoker's Dracula in terms of complexity and themes that HASN'T been done in comics. There isn't anything more mature that hasn't been done either. Again, the main difference IS superficial and aesthetic. Otherwise, Banner himself is a more complex character than Jekyll. To the point of overabundant complexity, I'd say.

All the seething redditors really came out of the woodwork with OP's trvth nvke lmao

>>212549120
>alan moore
>not reddit?

It's funny how that one guy is seething about "le nazis" since leftists hate jews now. Moreso than the average boomer Trump voter.

>>212544782
An autistic tranny.

>>212543745
This looks less like a political view and more like a jab.
As in, it's about "batman movies"
But milions of adults going to buy Watchmen is very different.

>>212544941
>They will spout that they hate Nazis while also supporting Trump and the destruction of Palestine.
Most regular people don't give a fuck about Israel/Palestine.

>>212543745
This makes it even more ridiculous and Moore is a fucking retard for believing it

>>212543745
>Part of this is a failure of the education system
if the education system failed soo much. how come there are so many media literacy fags everywhere, trying to take our fun away???

>>212551046
it really makes it worse?? why the emphasis on batman anyway ???

>>212551114
it really makes it worse.*

>>212543478 (OP)
If fascism is bad how come people love when Pfizer commands them to inject experimental goop in their arms and thank them for it? It's the natural inclination of 99% of humans to obey authority without question (Milgram Experiment)

>>212548425
Your honesty doesnt make you any less gay

>>212551277
Not all humans are human

Most are soulless NPCs that only obey heirarchies like you said. Some humans are piloted by literal demonic spirits enjoying the pleasures of the world and hurting others (most of the elite)

Real humans animate this reality with their consciousness and divine spark. This universe exists to farm these real humans of the energy they give off in extreme emotions (usually trauma and suffering)

This place is a simulation energy farm by dimensional parasites

>>212543745
love how this truth nuke made the chuddies cry

>>212543478 (OP)
Moore is putting the cart before the horse in that quote. Those capeshit movies don't turn people into facists. they ease people into letting themselves be conditionned through jingoism and dichotomy, making them more susceptible to fall for facism. The same tactics are used by those 'alt-right' internet grifters.


Watch more horror movoes. They'll make you glad you're alive instead of trying to fight any and all perceived injustices.

Notice how angry /tv/ gets when someone posts Moore?

It’s almost like Moore is correct and this dumb shit board is mostly Redditors and s0iface makers.

>>212547013
>>212547057
He's a contrarian hipster that dislikes anything poplar.
Honestly, he'd fit in here without a ripple.

>>212543478 (OP)
why doesn't this faggot take a shower

>>212551343
That's very well put and makes sense considering how the modern artificial life structures are designed to grind you down and break your will over time

>>212543478 (OP)
I refuse the believe that he's an actual writer, somebody is ghost writing for him.
Who could it be?

>>212551525
It’s more like they’re designed so people never develop “will” at all.

>>212543478 (OP)
Why UNC look like that

>>212548497
Whose strategic goals were accomplished? Last I checked, Taliban was still in power and Americans had to fuck off with their tails between their legs. No matter which way you cut the cake, they won.

>>212551464
>those hands
all she had to do were just some losing weight

>>212551432
>still pushing the Big Pharma propaganda in 2025 after being completely, undoubtedly proven wrong.

Yeah you people are NPCs.

>>212543478 (OP)
Wonder about his take in anime, he'll get an aplopegy

>>212543478 (OP)
>Often be a precursor
>Often
Examples? More than 1? More than 2?

Is fascism in the room with us right now?

>>212544941
I hope they kill all the Palestinians so I never have to hear about them again

>>212543745
I concur.

>>212543745
>Superman and Batman begin under the cryptofascist FDR regime
He's right but not in the sense he and his admirers mean

>>212551909
>completely, undoubtedly proven wrong.
sure it was, chuddie

>>212543745
The OP has the exact same message as your quote, the fuck do you mean "rob of nuance"?

>>212545233
But what if Adam West Batman existed in the real world and had to deal with real problems. That's what Watchmen is. Rorschach is pretty much one of those detetives that go crazy after seeing too much fucked up shit.

>>212543745
>hardcore leftists
Well, then he is right. Leftist are the worst fascists.

>>212543745
>the rise of fascism in America

>>212543745
Media literacy right y'all?!

>>212543478 (OP)
This. If your Christian, trad, and conservative you’ll skip this one.

>>212543745
>Considering the rise of popularity in superhero films in America happened to coincide with the rise of fascism in America, clearly, he wasn’t wrong

>>212547482
>oh no i had too much sex!
literally no woman has said this in the history of time. all that happens is they get bored of one guy and string him along while fucking multiple other dudes.
even 5/10 women do this nowadays, 10/10 you have no chance keeping them interested.

>>212551941
likely the exact same

>>212551018
This, the middle east is legit irrelevant to humans

>>212543478 (OP)
>>212543745
Superheroes have nothing to do with "fascism." More a result of creeping communism and pathetic manchildren. They make sense to weak emasculated nu-males who could never imagine performing any kind of heroic act, because they have no belief system, no loving women to protect, and no super power lasers shooting out of their assholes. Nu-males are on a misandrist treadmill waiting to be fed their next marching orders from Karen in HR so they don't get called a bigot and accused of rape, so yeah they fantasize about being a capeshit hero.

>>212545639
Mitt Romney in 2012 ran on opening up concentration camps and gassing the Jews
Luckily Obama won in 2012

>>212544941
But Palestine started this war. Israel was attacked on October 7th, just like Ukraine was attacked by Russia. They're just fighting back

>>212545786
Were you a fascist between March of 2020 and March 2023?
If not how did you overcome silence and inaction to fight the authoritarian COVID lockdowns?

>>212543478 (OP)
he's 100% right

>>212543591
Fascism is right-wing. For instance, look at trumpanzees having no principles and supporting whatever God Emperor Trump decides. Leftists have actual principles and when they are breached you lose electoral consensus, that doesn't happen with far-rightoids/fascists

>>212554603
loyalty is a principle. we may not agree with him on everything, but as long as the president stands by us there is no reason to stand against him.

>>212543478 (OP)
does fascism just mean "things i dont like" or what?

>>212543478 (OP)
Did he really said that? Because it doesnt really makes sense. Does this mean childrens are fascists from the start?
And if you engage super hero media, dont they propangade liberalism and fight rascism?

>>212554603
>Leftists have actual principles

>>212555673
no. here is a proper definition.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism

>>212555631
>loyalty
The only loyalty here is the one that orange jew cocksucker displays towards his late accomplice Epstein, you moronic bot.

Weird. Last I checked, fascists were disillusioned WW1 veterans, not manchildren who read comic books.

>>212545786
Here it is, folks. Fascism can be anything the leftist can think of--it does not matter what anyone else defines it as or their reasoning. It's entirely ethereal and arcane, and you can't really pin it down, because it unexpectedly might just so help his argument at the moment. Curiously his definition always seems to implicate his political opponents, no matter what it is they're actually doing at that time. Fascism can be anything he can think of.

>>212543745
If you can criticize your government without the fear of disappearing in the middle of the night, you're not living in a fascist country

>>212543478 (OP)
yep