Thread 212545200

>”H’yuck Clark me and your ‘Ma had buwwitos, be your own man son”

vs.

>”You’re gonna have to make a choice... a choice of whether to stand proud in front of the human race or not.”

>>212545200 (OP)
Retardedly kills himself for no reason vs redneck republican chad

>>212545200 (OP)
Snyder’s DC movies were for adults, Gunn’s slop is for children

Was this before or after the bloodless superbrawls in front of iHop?

>>212545200 (OP)
My god Snyder is a fucking hack.

>>212545200 (OP)
White people will be increasingly depicted as incompetent, effeminate or evil until they’re broken and subdued. I love superman sirs.

>>212545224
>redneck republican chad
>rebublican
>chad
Nice fantasy

>>212545200 (OP)
After rewatching Man of Steel I realized that the entire movie is worthless unwatchable garbage outside of the scenes with Kevin Costner.

>>212545200 (OP)
Does James Gunn ever support real family in his movies?

>>212545249
Retarded adults maybe. Man of Steel was a movie for 13 year old boys. Anybody older than that has no excuse for defending it.

>>212545249
>zaddy makes capeshit for big boys like me!

>>212545200 (OP)
>Your choices. Your actions. That's what makes you, who you are. I couldn't be more prouder of you, son.
Where's the hyuck and burritos?

>>212545200 (OP)
>What was I suppose to do, let all those kids drown in Texas
>Maybe

>>212545443
>Clark I'm so scared for you my invincible son!
>It's not like we could just say you had a rush of adrenaline due to potential death!
>The fucking government will literally come and kill you for saving children!

>>212545343
It took you multiple viewings for that?

>>212545336
Go back

>>212545224
>no reason
>protected his son from being experimented on by the gov't
>>212545546
>whoa that guy jus ran at 1000 mph and became a blur becuz of uhh... adrenaaline yaaaaaaaa
The brain of a manchild

>>212545670
>whoa that guy ran into a tornado and we couldn't see what happened inside the tornado!
>hmmm. this seems fishy. better call the government on him.

>>212545200 (OP)
>Hey son... who's going to clean the toilets? They are the real superheroes, especially after I eat mexican food

>>212545352
He literally said that.

>>212545670
It's shit. Superman 1978 did it way better, showing Clark couldn't stop death in all situations, without making his dad kill himself.

>>212545670
> >protected his son from being experimented on by the gov't

How! He’s fucking invincible. They hadn’t found Kryptonite yet. They couldn’t poke needle in him even if they allowed it

>>212545725
Imagine the Grudge scene but it’s this face and he says hey son!

>>212545743
It was Batman Begins refurbished. So instead of Bruce watching his parents get killed Invincible Son watches Pa get sucked into a tornado. Isn’t that tragic? Makes Superman so more relatable because of a forced tragedy

>>212545741
>this is for grownups
>superman
>batman
>wonder woman
>aquaman

holy shit...

>>212545200 (OP)
am I supposed to pretend that Costner's Pa Kent wasn't absolute dogshit now?

>>212545741
That's because he's a moron.

Pa Kent played by Ethan Ralph would rape

>>212545743
Scene was a little to Uncle Ben for me. Kind of funny, Donner borrowed from Spider Man and Raimi borrowed from Donner’s Superman. Superman 2 is basically Spider Man No More with Clark giving up being Superman

>>212545848
My dad was also sucked into a tornado, try to have some respect.

>>212545664
You first tourist newfag

>>212545882
I defended the shittiness of it all just because I appreciated the kinematic cape flapping. Bothers me how many movies phone in the capes

>>212545343
Kevin Costner has made many, many mistakes, but his performance in Man of Steel is flawless. A towering juggernaut.

>>212545848
It has absolutely nothing on All-Star Superman's version of Pa's death. Just a random heart attack that Superman hears from across the country and tries to fly home to save him (so fast he catches fire), but he's already dead.

>>212545546
>Clark, did I ever tell you about the time me and my dad helped murder an entire town with a smile on our faces?

>>212546065
do you miss the
>she gave me faith that there's still good in this world
right after that?

>>212546038
What happens when you got Batman guys doing Superman. Will never grasp the tragedy of someone who is literally invincible and can throw cars being completely helpless because his very mortal dad has a heart attack and dies

>>212545705
>whoa that guy ran into a tornado and we couldn't see what happened inside the tornado!
>yea let's wait for the tornado to come to obscure vision so I can go in and save
>implying the tornado wouldn't instakil his pa
>implying the town didn't already have suspicions about him from the bus incident and his grade school incidents
>implying this incident directly in front of all their eyes wouldn't further confirm things
>implying the gov't is reasonable and not power hungry
Such childlike thinking as expected of retards who read picture books. Lois was able to find him just by all the rumors that were spread about him.
>>212545743
I think it's pretty retarded point to make, it's not like he's a doctor so obviously he's not going to be able to save people from their health issues. He's a strong man that can fly and shoot lazors. Of course the movie kind of goes back on this point when he saves lois.
>>212545764
Well how is a farmer who doesn't have prior comic book knowledge like you do suppose to know that

>"It's not a parent's job to tehh their children who to be"

Excuse me what?
Fuck off film.

>>212546232
>the character known as the best investigative journalist found him!
Wow.
>the tornado wouldn't instakill his pa
Not if he fucking protected him?
Like a, oh I don't know, Superman?
>the town had suspicions
Wow this is so suspicious you saving your father, the government must hear about this!
>picture books
Like Superman comics?

>>212545336
It's literally a meme on the internet of women wishing leftist men looked and acted like right wing men lmao

>>212545743
>showing Clark couldn't stop death in all situations, without making his dad kill himself.
HE CAN TRAVEL BACK IN TIME. HE DID IT IN THE SAME MOVIE TO SAVE LOIS.
What, is his dad not good enough?

Why did you repeat the same bs that I already debunked. Here's a hint it's suspicious for reasons other than saving his pa. Actual sub 90 iq.

>>212545249
How's the weather in India

>>212546484
He didn’t know he could travel back in time and he couldn’t even fly at that point. Wasn’t until his training at the Fortress that got his full powers. And him reversing time was always poorly handled because Jor-El forbid it. There needed to be some consequence for him fucking with time like it causing Zod to be released or some shit. Smallville actually handled it better with Clark fucking with time causing Pa Kent to die to save Lana

>>212545200 (OP)
>>212545249
good morning sirs

>>212546577
>And him reversing time was always poorly handled because Jor-El forbid it
It sets it up fine because it establishes that he loves lois enough to do the one thing he was told not to do.

The best Superman is evil and is a dictator the world wants and needs the Injustice Superman

>>212546577
>>212546614
Why not do it a second time for his dad?

>>212546232
> Lois was able to find him just by all the rumors that were spread about him.
This makes it even dumber because he frequently uses his powers to save strangers —or even when he has a temper tantrum like with the guy’s truck— but not to save his own father

Itt : snyderjeets

>>212546662
> Why not do it a second time for his dad?

Because it would completely fuck up the time. Superman goes saves his dad, Clark doesn’t go off and find the Fortres and become Superman. As opposed to rewinding time by only a few minutes. There still should’ve been consequences for it like again it causing Zod to escape or some shit

It simply wasn't debunked.

>>212546696
>to save strangers
>strangers
>vs town folk
Think you can do it boy!

>>212545200 (OP)
>”You’re gonna have to make a choice... a choice of whether to stand proud in front of the human race or not.”
as a grown man from the midwest I have never said this.

>>212546824
you have to adopt a alien son with godlike power first, it’s a precursor to this existential train of thought

>>212545705
>ran into a tornado
If you weren’t an absolute smooth brain you’d see the problem here. Since you’re slow though I’ll help you out. The second anyone ran into a tornado they’d be obliterated. They don’t have eyes like hurricanes where there’s a clam point to feasibly hide whatever you’re doing in, they just whip the living shit out of anything that gets near. People would be questioning how he survived, let alone helped anyone escape.

Each one of these soldiers was a loving father who has family and children to feed
And supershit just melted them down

>>212547084
You just don’t get it! The plot overtly tells us they have no one that cares about them like that Indian hot dog guy Luthor killed!

>>212546808
They were randos on a freeway, and the fact that the other people he saves are strangers is more salient to how little they matter to him compared to his father than to whether they could identify him, which Lolo Lane does anyway all by her lonesome. You stupid bastard, how dare you talk back to me?

>>212546922
Then he can say
>I ran in, we jumped in the truck, and landed out in the middle of fucking nowhere.
Then, the townsfolk have two responses.
1. Good for you! What a miracle!
or
2. You're a freak! Quick, call the authorities!
Which would happen in Smallville?

>randos on a freeway
>while in the middle of field like we see in the bus scene
>near their town
>while his mo m is also there so that they can identify him through her
Boy you retarded

OP is joking but this movie really made the Kents to sound retarded. Not just hillbilly, but legit clinically retarded. So over the top dumb it almost feels a parody.

>>212547147
Were you homeschool'd?

>>212545347
>Anybody older than that has no excuse for defending it.
Way too broad a definition. That sums up every comic book movie, excluding Nolan trilogy.

>>212547263
It’s Kansas, the whole place is nothing but fields, dumb nigger. Kill yourself

>>212547414
How come you didn't respond to my other point? Can't come up with an argument?

>>212547451
Which one retard? That his "mo m" was there? It’s irrelevant, his dog and his dad were there too, so what? Time for you to shut up.

>>212547328
Yes, your mother taught me.

>>212545200 (OP)
New movie, quite simply, does not have the gravitas of Man of Steel. None.

>>212547491
>it's irrelevant
>women whom they can identify him through
>it's irrelevant
hmm... too much seethe can't think straight or what retard?

>>212547529
If they know Martha, they know Jonathan and they probably know him. You are too stupid for this

>>212547564
>randos on a freeway
So they know him or not pick one

>>212547613
They don’t, simple really

>>212547620
Ok but how do you know if there weren't people who recognized them there? How can you be sure? Seems like an assumption on your part. Maybe Jon knew and that's why he stopped his son. But let's say your right, well the news would still report on it being an incredible feat and people would recognize them from all the evidence there. How would you explain being able to go into a tornado and not being instantly torn to pieces? Then you stack on top of that all the suspicions from before and his other amazing feats and this thing blows up.

>>212547766
>>212547620
okay but what if superman has poko nu peku while powered up wearing the krpton supersuit and he's under a bright yellow sun with the mcguffin crystal infusing his chi energy???


do you guys ever listen to the shit you write here? do you ever get tired of these stupid hypotheticals where neither of you will concede to the other

>>212547766
Then it comes back to the EXACT POInT I MaDe AT the StARt which is that all this applies to all the other times he used his powers in much less important people to him than his father, or even on petty revenge. Just shut up.

>>212547807
He needs to die.

He was able to use his powers in those cases because there was no evidence left behind of who he was. But in the case of the tornado there was a whole lot simple point but you're retarded.

>>212547899
But there was evidence because Lou tracked him down through it, which is what the whole comment chain started with. It’s time for you to be beaten to death with a desk lamp.

>>212547973
If you look at that comment it says she was the best reporter in the world and also in those cases he felt comfortable enough that he wouldn't be tracked so easily and if he was it wouldn't be concrete evidence like it would be in the tornado scene. Why do you hate snyder so much?

>>212547899
>>212547973
Jonathan Kent in Man of Steel is arguably the most nuanced and compelling version of the character ever brought to screen. Unlike earlier portrayals, which often depicted him as a purely wholesome, salt-of-the-earth father figure, this Jonathan is layered with real-world anxieties. He’s not just raising a boy with powers — he’s raising a potential god. His fear isn’t rooted in ignorance or weakness, but in the overwhelming responsibility of guiding someone who could either save or enslave the world.

What makes this portrayal so powerful is how deeply Jonathan understands human nature — both his son's and society’s. He fears what could happen if Clark is treated unjustly, bullied, rejected, or hunted: that the pain could twist him into something vengeful, a Brightburn-style figure who turns his wrath on humanity. But he also dreads the opposite — that too much adoration, too early, could create a false sense of moral infallibility. That Clark might become addicted to praise, shaping his identity around public perception rather than true character, ultimately turning into a Homelander-type figure who demands love and obedience instead of earning it.

>>212547899
You sound like a little baby who starts crying about getting shit on in 1v1 games

>>212548109
Oh ok all the world’s governments with trillion dollar intelligence agencies and spy satellites can’t piece it together by Lozange Lane figures it out by herself with her notepad and some pluck, go back to Africa

>>212548134
Not interested

>>212545200 (OP)
>”H’yuck Clark me and your ‘Ma had buwwitos, be your own man son”
You should be glad that scene doesn't take place in Shartmart or Pa Kent isn't using a mobility scooter.

>>212547515
Arguably the funniest scene in the history of movies for me. Literally Nobody would have questioned it in the slightest if Clark just ran over and hoisted his dad over his shoulder and sprinted on back like he's pumped full of adrenaline or some shit

>>212548364
Pa Kent takes a quick trip down the freezer aisle to leak diarrhea all over the floor

>>212548330
>gov't doesn't actively look for him because they don't even know there's a guy like him out there (which jon prevented) so they don't find him
>lois actively looks for him so she does

>>212548421
There’s a whole scene at the end of them looking for him, it’s time for you to die

>>212548385
Run 50 yards back and forth in 2s? Would look pretty funny I suppose.

>>212548450
>they start lookin' for him after they know he's out there whereas they didn't before because they didn't know
This not go against my point like you think it does, if you had the ability to piece together multiple pieces of information you would've noticed this but you have the thinking of a retarded child including all your little tantrums because you're too retarded to make a coherent argument.

>>212546232
>it's not like he's a doctor so obviously he's not going to be able to save people from their health issues.

Doctors can't do that either

>I am supposed to think Luthor is the bad guy
I mean he was out of a line a bit and I'm not saying Superman was wrong, but clearly Luthor was just misunderstood. If Batman was making that argument about the risk of a powerful alien capable of bringing Armageddon, everyone would buy it

>>212548544
super doctors could

>>212548541
Subhuman troglodyte, the point of contention is about the ability to find him or not. It’s even more ridiculous that they can’t identify him AFTER the kyrptonians show up at his childhood home in their ship.

Ok but how does that go against my argument that he felt like he could get away with saving people in those scenarios which lois was able to find him through hearsay so he can still deny it if he wanted to vs not being able to because all the more concrete evidence in the tornado scene? This is a different point altogether and a nitpick at that.

>>212548749
Deny what? Climbing up the side of a flaming oil rig with his bare hands, ripping a steel door off its hinges, holding up a falling tower that weighs a hundred tonnes? Or playing tree trunk acupuncture with a big rig because he got a beer dumped on his head? vs running very fast and grabbing his dad in front a bunch of terrified people who can’t see shit anyway because there’s a derby and dust flinging hurricane in front of them. It’s not a nitpick, nothing about his assumptions on who could identify what are reasonable because the world doesn’t obey reason, it obeys Sneeder’s contrivance

lois found him through looking up rumors, he actively covered his tracks too. So if she came up to him saying your that guy he could still deny it because she didn't have any evidence but hearsay.

All those other scenes things like the oil rig were done in front of people who didn't recognize him. The tornado scene involved his family and car so he couldn't cover up his tracks there cause too much evidence. He would have to surpass the speed of sound and then some to be able to pull that off and that would incredibly noticeable don't you think. You could nitpick why nobody can tell who he is just because he wears glasses, they didn't give you an explanation so make up your own like they couldn't track those space ships shit's irrelevant to the story and to the point.

>>212545200 (OP)
>*BUUUUUUUUURB!* Clark! Help! I thought it was a fart but I actually shit myself!

vs

>Stop my invincible son, let me aura farm for no reason

>>212548900
You dumb nigger faggot worm, she "found him through looking up rumours" makes it sound even worse, it’s not an argument in your favour.

Moreover the speed of sound is 343 m/s, he wouldn’t need to go a tenth of that to cover the distance in all the time he spends standing watching his dad get stuck. You stupid fucking ape, die die die die die die

>My invincible son, you should've left those children die from our country's greatest ally's bullets.
>One day you'll understand.

I'm just amazed that this is a giant thread discussing nothing how Lois was able to track Clark in MoS, and what this might mean regarding his father's death.
This, and of course, people making fun of the new Pa Kent for being brain dead stupid.

>>212545336
>>212545982
Pedophiles no longer own this website.
Leave.

>>212545725
I bet he burps and farts uncontrollably throughout the movie and his pants fall down at least once.

>>212549020
She used her reporter instincts yea that's how the character is. What's your argument here? Can't even come up with one? So what does running at 80 mph look like? He's just going very fast you see lmao. Yea ok retard. Throw more tantrums little man.

>>212549077
"Her reporter instincts", is that like spider sense? She was bitten by a radioactive reporter? Kill yourself

And even running the hundred meters max between him and the car in five seconds would look like nothing compared to the oil rig feat which would have a huge investigation into it no matter what. End your own life, NOW!

>>212545200 (OP)
>My son. Don't save people
>My son let me die for no reason
I have to admit, the fact that Snyder made Pa Kent a complete sociopath was a bold choice

>>212549155
Report instincts is just a story telling trope and lois being recognized as a great reporter in the story has great reporter instincts. How do you not know something as basic as this.

The oil rig shit has already been explained to you over and back, he covered his tracks there leaving no evidence. The only thing left would be a hear say tall tale. Again explain how does running 80 mph look like. It would be kind of you to neck yourself for the sake of your family and free them from having to support your retarded cringe faggotry, I don't think they like you pounding your desk and shouting loudly in your room over online arguments about movies for little kids and even then the funny thing is this basic shit still goes over your head lmao kys.

>>212549274
Not reading anymore of your faggotry, you’ve been debunked + refuted + you have AIDS
*explodes your head with heat vision*

>>212549347
all you did was display cringey amounts of seethe over a little kids movie and make easily debunked arguments. and whoa you got lazor eyes? Have you tried flying too? Go jump off a bridge to see if you can.

>>212549397
Yeah, thankfully you were standing underneath so your fat ass cushioned my fall

>>212545249
Makes sense as comic books are for children. Theres still enjoyment to find in them but the movies should be approachable for kids because at the end of the day they are the target audience. Capeshit trying to appeal to adults has led us down a terrible path and made them a focus in entertainment at the detriment of almost every other genre

>>212545200 (OP)
Nah Pa Ken woudn't kill himself to teach Superman a fucked up lesson and raising him to be a sociopath

>>212549572
you don't get it, it's deep and it's about self-sacrifice...

>>212549051
Where's the Epstein list, MIGAtard?

So who join superman Harem?

>>212549760
There's no list you libtard! There never was! Get over it, move on! Who cares about le Epstein.
Gosh this is so old news it's like asking the melting point of steel bars used in Twin Towers' construction

>>212545670
>>212545705
>>212545764
It's not about government experiments it's about letting a child live a relatively normal child's life. It's a very strong parental theme so it doesn't surprise me /tv/ doesn't get it.
It's in direct contrast with russel crowe wanting him to be a God among the humans.

>>212545200 (OP)
>Costner Kent wax lyrically over Clark having to make this choice blah blah
>had an absolute bitchfit over his son not wanting to be a farmer in the flashback
That's what I can recollect from 12 years ago

>>212546355
>Not if he fucking protected him?
Like a, oh I don't know, Superman?
Clarke was a teen in that scene, how the fuck is he supposed to know he's the invincible superman? Did you see a montage of Pa Kent testing out all types of death contraptions on him?

>>212546577
Superman dosent need training.
He is at the stronguest always, overpowered.

>>212545318
It’s better than it was.

>>212545670
You're a Zack Snyder fan, and you're calling someone a manchild. I want you to think about that.

>>212551595
Were his powers promised to him by god 30000 years ago?

>>212548385
Or, Clark could've allowed himself and Pa to get "sucked" by the tornado, and then show up unharmed some minutes later. Country bumpkins would've chalked it up to a miracle. The End.

>>212552376
To me if you want someone to go save the dog, Clark doing it always just made real sense even ignoring the superpowers. "Disappearing" in the tornado and then leaving the town for good made the most sense. Dad lives, not impossible to back to see him years later.

or you know, its a dog.

>people still defending the tornado death scene
saars

>>212549878
>relatively normal child's life
>no father
Black hands posted this

STAND BACK IMMORTAL OFFSPRING

>>212545743
Eh, Superman's powerset has obvious limitations. Clark's dad dying doesn't really bring anything new to the table since he already has a dead dad. Jonathan Kent's death carrying more meaning gives it an actual narrative purpose to be included in the story in the first place.

>>212549878
being able to save your friends and having to let them die because your dad told you to is not a "normal child's life."

>>212545200 (OP)
Norfs won
Jeets lost

>>212545200 (OP)
>Heyyuup Clark me and yer ma surpport yer decision to oppose the forces of Israel at home and abroad
What did Gunn mean by this?

>>212545443
>are you still asking about epstein?!

>>212546662
Where does it end? Why not go back and save Krypton?

>>212547084
I wish they were melted because BATMAN PRISON RAPE but it's shown how they fall unconscious. Also, those suits have the same colors of lexs super suit, so they're pretty durable.

based burrito eater

INDIA HAD ITS CHANCE

>>212546232
> imying people haven’t survived tornados
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2024/3/how-unconscious-half-naked-teen-survived-being-thrown-1-307-feet-by-a-tornado-767620
I guess an alien most have saved this kid too.
> Lois was able to find him just by all the rumors that were spread about him.
I’m pretty sure it was him acting as a “guardian angel” when he was traveling the world saving people in situations like the oil rig.

>>212554457
>redeems the cards