Thread 212556776

>ay tone, the feds are onto me, they want me to wear a wire and shit
>aw shit puss that sucks, take some money and lay low in another country, get a new name, start ovah
>alright tone, thanks

was it that hard? they were long time friends

problem was he had a family, best case they could hide away in some south american shithole which is a tall request for the family

TAKE ME TO THE RIVER

>>212556776 (OP)
yeah, thats kinda the point. the whole thing could have been avoided

>>212556776 (OP)
Puss had already given them tons of shit like the airline tickets and the calling cards. He had to go.

>>212556776 (OP)
Mobsters are too paranoid to ever condone this. You are expected to do your time in prison or die.

>>212556776 (OP)
tony wouldnt even let eugene retire in florida what makes you think he would let someone go that was looked for by the feds

>>212556776 (OP)
just collaborating with the feds, even if it was just to meet with them, is considered treacherous behavior in the family. and yes, Tony did it, but he reserves the right to do so because he's a hypocritical sociopath

>>212557223
at the time I thought Tony was a dick for not letting him go to Florida but in retrospect Eugene was ratting and him going off to Florida is definitely a red flag

>>212556776 (OP)
The actor explained a joke that probably nobody got. His character was called "Pussy". Why "Pussy"? Because he was supposed to be a cat burglar. Everybody who remebers his 20 foot "run from the law" when they found the smack at his place and how fat and out of breath he was was supposed to laugh at how out of place him being a cat burglar was.

>>212557267
>retrospect Eugene was ratting and him going off to Florida is definitely a red flag
he could have just left without saying anything if that was the case. you are retarded

>>212557273
They explained how he got his name on the show..

>>212557684
Oh, OK. I don't remember that. It was probably too long ago. (More than quarter of a century.)

>>212557273
I always figured he got the nickname when he was younger and slender.

>>212557273
christopher explains it to those two idiots he works with at the brokerage while they're breaking in to safes

>>212556776 (OP)
You're acting like the feds were awkwardly asking him out to prom. He was already in custody when they gave him the ultimatum: either stay in jail and eat the heroin charge, or wear a wire and walk out.

>>212557147

Nothing ever came of either of those things

>>212559129
It was gonna if Tony's mom actress didn't die. She was gonna testify and there was gonna be a whole court case in S2.

>>212556948
DROP ME IN WATER

>>212556948
Why did Paulie make Christopher bring that thing into the club? Was he trying to piss Tony off while also putting Chris in harm's way? Makes no sense. Especially as it was never shown so we don't know how it went.

>>212557844
One time he left a load so big the cops thought a bear broke in.

>>212559129
>nothing came of either of those things
>because pussy disappeared and couldn't testify
Now you know why he had to go.

>>212556776 (OP)
This show makes it incredibly clear that Tony is a narcissist. It fucking hammers you over the head with the fact that he uses everyone he's surrounded with, always, and is highly manipulative. If Pussy brought this up there is a 100% chance he would be dead within days. Tony absolutely would not leave a dangling thread that could be used against him by allowing Pussy to survive, that's the entire fucking point of like 5 of the seasons dude

>>212557223
What was Tony going to do if he moved anyways?

>>212556776 (OP)
>telling the boss the feds are onto you AKA you are a fat fucking liability and not worth his time anymore
Yeah good idea that'll work out perfectly.

>>212559361
Why would Paulie know that was gonna upset Tony

>>212559972
Tony loved Pussy and if he had been approached much earlier things may have gone different. You're simple if you don't think Tony killing Pussy was one of his hardest decisions

>>212560733
But Pussy would have always died. He killed Chris for much less

>>212556776 (OP)
>>212557149
the thing is, it's not that farfetched for them to do. they already paid out a type of life insurance to wives of guys that died.

>>212556776 (OP)
Did Pussy even really exist?

>>212560791
>He killed Chris for much less
He killed Chris because he realized he was a liability and most importantly, that Chris no longer worshiped him. It took quite a bit for him to take him out. Any other boss would have killed Chris in S1. It was only Tony and Liv speaking for him that kept Junior from doing it. If not then then definitely when he shot up Tony's car.

Tony might have made an exception for Pussy at the start, but it was too late. Pussy flipped when Jackie was boss and Jackie definitely would have killed him.

>>212560733
It doesn't matter whether it was hard, what matters is that Tony always looked out for number 1. He had no qualms about killing his own family he's known since he was a small child, why the fuck would he not kill his friend?

>>212560927
>he realized he was a liability and most importantly, that Chris no longer worshiped him.
Pussy being a rat is surely indicative of this and much more

>>212561006
He might have BS'd himself into making excuses like he did Chris for years. A good boss would have nipped that shit in the bud, but as Larry Boy said, Tony always made excuses for family.

>>212561156
i think part of it was almost an obligation on tony's part do mentor chris and keep him around no matter what since his father mentored tony

They would've just whacked him. He's compromised. Talking to the feds in any capacity is a death sentence.

>>212560791
He killed Chris because he was morally degraded enough to do so. That degradation begins in earnest with the death of Pussy, after which Tony has no chance of redemption. The show scales his descent from pussy, to one of his captains (Ralph), to his actual family, a mercy killing in Tony B and a contemptuous murder in Christopher.

>>212556776 (OP)
>ay tone the feds got me, want me to flip on you cause im one of your closes friends and allys and KNOW a lot of shit on you
>but dont worry I am loyle to my capo
yeah he had to go it was only a matter of time for him to flip if the feds applied the right type of pressure

>>212561405
By what you've said there isn't Pussy's death less significant than Chris'?

>>212560294
They have guys in Florida.

Wouldn’t the feds just go after Tony faster then?

Are you fucking stupid. If the feds have him, he's done. Tony would ask him "why the fuck are you not in prison then".
There is no reason to have that conversation, if the feds pinch you, as a mademen or as a soldier you have to take prison time, leaving for another place and laying low does not give Tony any benefit. At least in prison he is still useful

>>212561629
Really no reason he couldn't have moved to Florida and joined Little Carmine.

>>212561712
The FBI would have figured it out in a week. Now they’ve got him for evasion, plus he’s useless as an informant now that Tony knows. Here in 2025 he probably still wouldn’t be out.

>>212561795
Oh, yeah, he was fucked with the FBI. I'm just talked about with Tony.

>>212561666
Actually, let's assume as a thought experiment Pussy wanted to survive but not run away...could he have participated in a robbery or some shit and purposely botched it to get sent away for years and get the target off his back? Or do you think 1.) the FBI would release information to Tony about Pussy and/or 2.) Tony would still try to have him whacked in jail?

>>212560927
>It was only Tony and Liv speaking for him that kept Junior from doing it.

All due respect but your theory falls apart on itself…

Here’s Mikey palmice telling June he should kill both Brendan filone and Chris. That’s what the western exchange is about. June totally resists and claps back at Mikey. That’s an unwillingness knowing how Tony would react (as opposed to Tony threatening junior). And Tony came down hard on Brendan and Chris.
https://youtu.be/OOrrnRGs8U0
https://youtu.be/2R2vceT7oYg

Then after Brendan gets a comley driver killed June still doesn’t say a word about murder… and he notes that Tony protects them…
https://youtu.be/Pz_Et4jIx1I

Livia told him to do it. June reacted as if he hadn’t considered that particular plan. Tony was totally unaware of the entire second event until this scene
https://youtu.be/iP6ZvolHOww

>>212561832
*talking

>>212561645
they did but they didn't get anywhere with that so they went after adrianna

>>212561855
>Then after Brendan gets a comley driver killed June still doesn’t say a word about murder
He doesn't have to. He knows he has to do something after it was hit again AND a driver was killed. Only reason Chris didn't go to was because Liv said she loved him like a son.

>>212561894
that scene where Adriana mentions Pussy to the feds as if he's gone into the program and they mock her and tell her that no, he has not, really fucking pisses me off. They're basically glibly telling Adriana that they are going to get her murdered. They don't give a fuck. It's so fucking reprehensible I can't stand it.

>>212561959
>people don't have sympathy for criminals
shocking

>>212561959
>they make fun of the one agent for actually believing she took off

>>212561959
Possibly the most realistic depiction of the FBI on TV

>>212556869
It's a tall request for anyone. I'd rather take a bullet to the head than live in South America.