The eternal debate…

>>212567041 (OP)
>What was I supposed to do...just let them die?
>Maybe. Whatever. Fuck it, right?

>>212567041 (OP)
Henry wrote him a letter to congratulate him first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewe_govwJqM

Both suck

>>212567105
/thread

>>212567041 (OP)
>White man
>Jew
This shouldn't even be a debate.

>>212567105
>Was I suppose to let all those kids drown in Texas?
>Maybe

>>212567105
Why is his dad such a psychopath in that movie?

>>212567152
trvke

>>212567041 (OP)
cavill.

only retards and contrarian faggots will say otherwise

>>212567041 (OP)
Henry Cavill's career... whatever happened there.

>>212567041 (OP)
Conservative, trad, Christians, heterosexuals, and MEN choose MOS. Liberals, 'progressives', Satanists, globalists, LGBTQIA+, and other assorted enemies of civilization choose James Gunn's Superman. That simple.

>>212567041 (OP)
>Snyder's is in front of a dark grey wall
>Gunn's is in front of the bright blue sky
BRAVO NOLAN

>>212567041 (OP)
These shillposts are just so fucking low effort

>>212567041 (OP)
The debate is over.
Gunn won.

>>212567262
>>212567248
>>212567105
>DUDE HOW DARE A FATHER BE C

MoS is the ultimate pleb filter, anyone who says >stop my invincible son
Can instantly be disregarded as an NPC

It's funny how this board cries about capeslop and superhero fatigue yet laps up the most generic MCUified Superman we've ever had. Grim

He's literally Starlord in a cape

>>212567262
Because Zack Snyder wanted to inject Objectivist themes into his Superman film haphazardly

>>212567644
HALT MY INVULNERABLE BOY

>>212567644
>anyone who says >stop my invincible son
>Can instantly be disregarded as an NPC
I commend Snyder for finally making a more mature Superman (what I've always wanted to see) but that death scene could've really been done better.
All Star Superman did Pa Kent's death the best.

Skinny jew neck

>>212567105
Jesus fuck...i hate every single scene with Pa Kent in that fucking movie...

12 year old Indians and SOl beards shitting up the English internet

>>212567041 (OP)
I choose the one who is not a kike

>>212567818
>I know you're feeling down son, but what if I came to you as a ghost and told you about the time I accidentally drowned my neighbor's horses

seriously, what the FUCK was this guy's problem?

>>212567644
it taught superman to fear using his powers for good and to fear humanity. Nothing from daddy kent in MoS inspired goodness, or hope. One of the worst scenes imaginable in a rather simple story. Russel crowe had a more positive impact from a single line "...you will inspire them to accomplish wonders"

>>212567041 (OP)
There is no debate, David is superman

>>212567041 (OP)
One is superman in the real gritty world, the other is I dont know yet.

>>212567262
Because the implications of the world finding out about a superman is more severe than any miserable life. Also imagine the hell an immature clark would go through when the government comes knocking and wanting him as lab rat

>>212568032
>David is Kikeman
FTFY

>>212567860
Thats not MoS.

>>212567041 (OP)
I liked MoS better but David is a better actor overall. Henry got lucky with good genetics.

>>212567860
Huh Ghost dont exist

>>212568064
>superman shouldn't care about individual people, only about the implications of his existence
thank christ Snyder's movies flopped and he got the boot

>>212567860
Zack was having a terrible time with his daughter an heroin...i get it but don't put it in the film dude...

>>212568064
yeah because the government is gonna come abduct some kid because of an urban legend. what kind of retard take is this?

>>212567961
Saving lives is not necessrily a good thing but your simple mind is not ready for that debate. Why do you get to play God? How do you choose who lives or dies, whomse lives matters and whomse doesnt?

>>212568170
she killed herself after BvS

definitely not man of steel

>>212567041 (OP)
there is no debate.
the new one is obviously better.
**spoiler alert**
**Spoiler alert**
the new superjew even saves buildings. instead of flying through them like a meteor.

It's already been settled.

>>212568271
btwz newfag here. how do I do the negro censor on the spoiler text ??

>>212567860
Been a while since I seen BvS, was Superman having a legit schizo moment or simply shit like imaging talking to his dad to comfort himself?

>>212568358
never explained

>>212567105
Fpbp

>>212568303
Box office?

>>212568271
Such an effiminate thing to do

>>212568358
>>212568369

You guys are idiots. Supes went for a walk and started thinking you morons. Ut was in his head, his dad was never there. They put Kevin in the movie as hommage.
That was his first sequel ever btw.

>>212568578
Maybe...

>>212568542
for the movie that comes out tomorrow? LMAO retards I swear

>>212568358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXsqsZ7xbjM

>>212567041 (OP)
>MoS
Kino that requires abstract thinking and writes the characters as humans with motives that aren't immediately evident if you're a retard that just interprets word-for-word
>Superman
Fast-paced popcorn slop
Unless you mean the actors themselves? Correnswet is actually a very good shucks farmboy Superman though I still do prefer Cavill, that's a close one though, while I consider the movies to have a great canyon of quality in MoS' favor

>>212567041 (OP)
Murderman vs. Soulman

>>212568578
it is a beta boi move but it's true to the character and that's what matters most.

>>212568221
every life matter if you have a heart

>>212568705
>MoS
>quality
stop pretending the movie was anything more than some edgelord's fanfiction. 2 hours of Clark moping in flashbacks while buildings explode with terrible pacing and soulless characters.

>>212568809
Not in the grand scheme of things
Also supes dad giving him the alternative of not being a super hero is actually good parenting.

>>212568894
Filtered

>>212568894
>soulless characters

Please try harder next time

>>212567041 (OP)
Haven't seen either but the left looks more confident so I'll pick Man of Steel

>>212567105
2025 and retards didn't notice he was scared of people discovering Clark was an alien.

Meanwhile Kor-El in the new movie is straight up evil and wanted Superman to conquer Earth and rape women.

>>212567860
Try not being a redditor.

>>212567041 (OP)
>>212567041 (OP)
Both have their own merits
Henry's problem was that Snyder wrote his Superman into a corner with the Christ allegory stuff that just seemed really forced. The other is he wasn't really allowed to have any form of personality beyond a look.

>>212568809
Gay

>>212567961
>Russel crowe had a more positive impact from a single line "...you will inspire them to accomplish wonders"
What if James Gunn directed MoS?

Cavill > Literally who
Aryan > Jew
Snyder > Gunn
Basketball suit > Frumpy Marvel suit

This movie is for quirk chungus reddit liberals who lie about never having said the N word.

I never watched MoS and I will take Cavill every time

>>212567041 (OP)
Both did ok with what they were given. David carries his movie better than Henry did, but Henry's movie works better as a standalone Superman story.

>>212569250
blood for the blood god

>>212568132
>got lucky with good genetics
pajeet or jew shill hands typed this.

>>212569258
>Literally who

>>212567041 (OP)
Just saw it. It was two hours of supes getting shit on. Pretty good though. Would have preferred ultra man being......... different than what he was. No spoilers.

>>212569354
They are good genetics though?

>>212569384
no

>>212569384
>those hands
not really

>>212569371
Corenswet will never get another role outside of this.

>>212569327
>but Henry's movie works better as a standalone Superman story.
It doesn't unless you're a contrarian. It's quite literally the most un-Superman Superman movie ever made.

>>212567041 (OP)
Snyder's planned arc was the most realistic take that a lonely Superman would wipe us all the fuck out and turn evil

How are you faggots not realizing he was injecting serious realism into the character the way Nolan did with Batman?

Fuck anyone who likes Supergunn and doesn't wanna admit that its objectively clear that IRL superheroes would turn the fuck against us and aren't something to be admired, aka the point Snyder was trying to make

You faggots make me want to blow my fucking brains out with your filterless takes

>>212569483
At least Henry got his secure Witcher gig
Oh no wait.... he got replaced in that as well lmao

>>212568358
>>212568369

>>212569516
>How are you f****s not realizing he was injecting serious realism into the character the way Nolan did with Batman?
rofl
>You f*****s make me want to blow my fucking brains out with your filterless takes
do it, incel

>>212569493
Do you feel the secret shame of being a pseud, knowing you don't think as deeply and glean insight into the things you watch, or do you legitimately believe you make good points about things?

>>212569483
Unlikely. He's a pretty good actor. if the movie had issues, he wasn't one of those.

>>212569516
Resolution of the snyderverse was the only thing in capeslop I was looking forward to. Now it will never happen because of Gunn and his loyal army of pajeets.

>>212569516
>Snyder's planned arc was the most realistic take that a lonely Superman would wipe us all the fuck out and turn evil
??????

>>212569586
Read Watchmen moron, the point was the same there, trust the system and not people in costumes because they're likely fucked in the head and need to be taken the fuck out if they did exist

>>212569545
>he got replaced
Try to spin the narrative like Jew. Pathetic. He left the show of his own accord because the producers were shitting all over Sapkowski. Because he has integrity, unlike you.

>>212569516
I think it's a shame he never got to finish his arc. Whether you like his films or not, stopping the train halfway, or two thirds of the way, is always lame.

>>212569669
This, his literal message was to reject the superman because he will turn on you, he was out to kill capeslop from within

>>212569590
>or do you legitimately believe you make good points about things?
What are you crying about, insecure faggot lmao

>>212569743
>This, his literal message was to reject the superman because he will turn on you, he was out to kill capeslop from within
That wasn't the message at FUCKING ALL. See >>212569674.

>>212569676
>trust the system
when in history has this ever been a good idea? at least dictators are a crapshoot, not a guaranteed failure

>>212569743
That wasn't his message. He just approached it realistically. A Gunn Superman could also theoretically exist and act the way he does, but such a person would be considerably more rare, especially with that much power.

>>212569669
they are accepting defeat it has begun

Fuck you faggots defending Gunn I would fight you bitches IRL

>>212569858
I'm also trans btw, not sure if that's important XD

Are Snyderfags more or less pathetic than prequelfags?

>>212569851
Its only gonna get worse for them in the next couple of days...

>>212569803
>T, Anarchist faggot who doesn't understand what a functioning government looks like
Slop like X-Files brainwashed you bud

>>212567105
Stop Invincible Son will always be a meme but this is the actual character assassination moment.

>>212569828
Realistically, Superman would decide we're not worth it and kill us all

>>212567041 (OP)
Allow me to interject for a moment...

>>212567041 (OP)
Henry Cavill and Armie Hammer and David Corenswet and Nicholas Hoult and Skyler Gisondo are relentlessly handsome.

>>212567041 (OP)
>Both suck
>Both get the character wrong for different reasons

>>212569926
>Sucking the cock of Big Brother
Do people (including Snyderfags) really?

>>212569983
This shit hasn't aged well. Neither has Smallville or any of those corny show.

>>212567041 (OP)
Unironically better than those two.

>>212569803
I put more faith in institutions and people than I would some faggot in a costume

>>212569702
He left because he thought he could come back as supes in the rock failed slop

>>212568578
> Ut was in his head,
All schitzo moments are in people’s head idiot. Clark was having a mental breakdown and had schizophrenic episodes

>>212570080
>Smallville
Was never aiming to be high art, it was made for horny teenage boys to beat off to Kristen Kreuk and succeeded at that

>>212569669
It fucking sucks that we never got to see evil supes. Imagine the guy we knew from man of steel, who gave his life to stop doomday eventually turn evil that would have been awesome. Fuck warner bros

>>212567041 (OP)
David Superman has personality and spends the entire time saving people
Henry Superman..

>>212570272
There was no skizophrenia you asshole
There also was not mental breakdown

>>212570352
Fuck off faggot I wanna kick your like shill teeth in

>>212570332
would it have really been, sanjeet?

It's over, Snyderfags.

>>212570352
>spends the entire time saving people

must have gotten old very quickly
Ill take the bvs supes montage anytime
Also fuck you fag

>>212570352
>Henry Superman
Had plenty of personality, your retard negro ass just didn't like a movie that wasn't full of quips
Real cinema makes us challenge our perception of characters and Snyder wanted to make audiences reevaluate the idea of Superman which your dumb retard ass couldn't comprehend

>>212569003
Please tell me why Clark and Lois love each other. What does Clark love about Lois? Why is he willing to genocide the planet if she dies?
>>212568948
The third act of MoS alone disqualifies it the piece being anything above schlock. Tack on the horrid camera work throughout and often contrived story beats and it dips further

I wanna stomp James Gunn's skull in for ruining Snyder's vision
I meet him in the street it'd be on sight

>mfw the Snyderjeets are losing it...

>>212570332
It was just a thing in the first of a movie, the rest would be the traditional Superman doing heroic things.

Does anyone know have a torrent for the hindi version of new superman?

>>212567041 (OP)
the basedboy dad killer vs the creampier

>>212570413
>the first standalone sequel to MoS coming out 15 years later

>>212570352

>>212570482
>Had plenty of personality
said literally no one ever.

>complaining about jew when Superman is lterally created by jew like almost every comic book characters ever
Maybe you retards should stop consoom capeshit media.

>>212570535
She was the person to trust and believe in him, and she reminds him of his mom.

>>212570388
It’s literally in the movie

>>212570482
>henry superman had plenty of personality
kek

>>212570673
Notice how none of the real heroes are Superman...

...Almost as if humanity is the real hero was the message

And Gunnkeks wanna say different? Fucking dumb cunts

>>212569354
Why would a jew say a non-jew has better genetics than another jew?

adjusted for inflation, MoS had a $150-160M opening weekend
the capeshit taps have run dry already, but this flick is a certified disappointment no matter how you look at it

Snyderbros we can still fucking win if we protest, go full Antifa

>>212570812
>Fucking dumb cunts
You seem angry. I'm sorry MoS went from being the 3rd best Superman movie to the fourth. Cope.

>>212570927
Shh don't give them ideas, they are already rabid

>>212570873
>they've moved onto the adjusted for inflation cope
Mo

>>212570710
> She was the person to trust and believe in him
Trust and believe in him? Brother first off those are essentially synonymous and second that’s the most boring non-answer flirtationless reason to fall in love. It’s pretty emblematic of why I hate these Snyder versions. I have no sense of what the Snyder Clark is like. I can see myself laughing at Reeve’s bumbling or Hoechlin’s dorky dad jokes but Cavil it’s like there’s nothing there. Like what do Clark and Aquaman talk about you think? Would they like each other?a4mvar

>>212567041 (OP)
One on the left is white.
One on the right is jew.
Ergo, Cavill wins.

>>212570710
>reminds him of his mom
>Superman has an oedipus complex now
damn Freud was right

>>212570973
I want Snyder's DC movies or no DC movies there's no middle ground faggot

>>212570824
bc they hate themselves.

>>212570973
Umm, our pronouns are "us", not "them"? This is a Snyderboard.

>>212568622
BOX OFFICE? You retard.

>>212571080
>British balding Superman
>American Superman with the curl
It's no contest

>>212570673
The feeling of there being a big boy scout dressed in blue who saves the entire day after everyone is scared shitless and gives you a smirk while unharmed afterward is Superman. Superman returns did this very well imo
SnyderSloppa never does this. People have to come up with an example of him saving someone once in the middle of destroying a buncha shit just to cope. He doesn't give you hope. him being salvation is ruined because it's all tied to divinity jesus shit because synder is a religious low iq jackass who has to self insert his own personal bs

Take the fun story with drunky super girl from gunns movie, take Henry Cavills superman assuming he can pull off not being a depressive mopey goofball, and take superman returns with its music and clear theme of superman being this all powerful amazing godlike being despite being good because of simply being raised right by good parents, and you have a perfect superman movie
>>212570812
Superman is supposed to be the hero. He is Superman. He's the superhero. THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT.

You are a drooling shitskin parasite

>>212571045
This will always be the greatest issue with MoS. Not the destruction or killing Zod or whatever else. It's a Superman movie where there's no reason to give a shit about Superman as a person. He's just a thing to convey the themes of the movie, or for other people to react to about the implications of his existence. So much so that when they kill him in the 2nd one nobody gave a fuck.

>>212568542
7 dollars plus the tip

Remember iwhen Snyder's team worked on a Dragon Ball CGI short-film? That was absolute kino, hopefully he eventually gets the part for the actual live action.

>>212571204
If you need someone else to protect you you should literally fucking die

>>212571371
that looks ugly as shit

>>212571351
>and the human way
It's funny that they put that in the description, I like that they're running with it.

>>212571245
Yup. The guy has two friends, his mom and his wife, and a boss. His closest relationship in the costume is to a man who tried to kill him. No Jimmy, no Lana, no Bibbo. Snyder’s Superman isn’t an alien because he comes from space, but because he has no friends/community that ties him to earth beyond Lois who he loves inexplicably, ready to go full conquer in the event she dies. He’s a complete blank slate

>>212571245
This. Everyone was a unlikeable character. Pa Kent was a dick and possibly a psychopath. Clark just done brooding bore. Superman was hardly even Superman with a shit eating grin the few times even tried to smile. Zero chemistry between Clark and Lois. Movie just sucked

>>212571371
that looks ugly as shit

>>212571384
Don’t have kids anon

REMINDER THAT HENRY STEALS CLOTHES
REMINDER THAT HENRY DESTROYS THE LIFE OF A TRUCKER

>>212571509
>Muh likability
Fuck you Redditor, characters do not need to be liked to be compelling, literally the most midwit, smooth brain want is for a character to be likeable

>>212571576
>Superman shouldn't be likeable
kek

>>212571576
>Superman doesn’t need to be likable

Range ban India already!!!!

>>212571573
Grown adults should be able to protect themselves
If you need cops or doctors then you literally are a worthless pissant who should be removed from living because you're fucking weak

>>212570564
ok i rape u next greetings from Bangladesh

>>212571595
>>212571628
I'll take a deranged nutcase MC in a story with 0 redeemable traits if they're compelling and interesting or do something cool
That isn't exclusive to Superman

>>212570673
Lmao i forgot how snyder fucking killed superman on his second movie.

>>212567041 (OP)
People liking this movie really mindbroke Snyderkeks, didn't it?

>>212571634
>Superman movie thread becomes a hub for social darwinist retards
What the fuck is happening?

>>212571699
> compelling and interesting or do something cool
That last phrase is doing a lot of the heavy lifting when explaining why you like Snyder Superman considering he isn’t compelling or interesting

>>212572106
>Snyder Supes isn't compelling
>Ignores all the social isolation and mental breakdown warnings from the films he's in on purpose
Literally fucking kill yourself

>>212572168
>Literally fucking kill yourself
angry retard still coping that MoS is now even more irrelevant than before.

>>212572106
Snyder's Superman is the very first version of Superman I generally cared for which means a lot to me because I normally hate Superman. I really like how Snyder handled the origin story in this film as he doesn't even become Superman until the very end. This is the story of a young man with god like powers being forced into a heroes journey against his will due to the members of his dying race. Snyder's Superman is more of a quiet introvert compared to past versions and has spent the majority of his life in isolation, he has only had a few friends, due to the powers he was born with and the feeling of alienation that comes with it. He is mainly trying to find his place in the world and to figure out the origins of his race as he knows little about them.

All of this summary boils down to is a Superman who has evolved from an introvert who was bullied but always found a way to make a positive difference in the world as a Good Samaritan to an active superhero who has made connections and stood up for his roles both in his heroic and personal lives. He began with a conflicted bicultural identity and was eventually able to integrate both sides of himself: Kryptonian and human. Clark is a sweet and thoughtful young man who loves deeply. He's a passionate defender of the poor and disenfranchised, but he's not above pranks to teach bullies lessons. Clark loves having fun with his girlfriend at home, and he doesn't mind cooking for her. He's not a showboat at work, but he will stand up to his boss when he believes it matters. Clark cares about what people think about him, but he will continue to sacrifice and defend people regardless if they are innocent or evil.

He's the "Literally Me" Superman.

>>212572223
tl;dr
kys yammering faggot

>>212572223
You sound like you're just a fan of Snyder and not Superman.. but then again you already admitted that.

>>212572223
he was boring.

>>212572257
Introverts like his Superman because they don't require a scene to be conversation to understand what's happening. Most of Cavills scenes are him not saying much and reflecting on what is happening around him. This is an introvert trait. They identify with this Superman and the actor who says he prefers gaming alone over socializing.

Extroverts hate Snyders visual story telling. Seeing Superman just think accompanied by beautiful music drive them nuts. They want someone giving a social performance with other characters. They complain Cavill didn't have a take on Superman for this reason. They want Superman to take charge of the scene.

>>212572288
I like this Superman because i actually read the fucking comics and love the Superman from the 90s, created by John Byrne.
The one where Krypton was a decrepit and sterile place, Superman's super-powers had bullshit scientific explanations, Clark wasn't a performative dork, there was no distinction between Clark and Superman (Clark was genuine and Superman was just a role), Superman couldn't always save the day or fix everything, and so on.

Man of Steel is basically a love letter to that time period which ended when Grant Morrison, Mark Millar, Jeph Loeb threw a huge tantrum about the character not being like how they grew up with anymore.

>>212572303
Cavill isn't a good enough actor to pull off a character who emotes through little talking and only expressions. He has the same face for most of the movie.

>>212572360
I disagree.

>>212572349
MoS Clark acted nothing like Byrne Clark. MoS Clark is an introverted weirdo while Byrne Clark is like the nice Chad big brother type at your school.

>>212572349
>I like this Superman because i actually read the fucking comics and love the Superman from the 90s, created by John Byrne.
You must be lying because what you're saying objectively makes no sense.

>>212572106
This. When Superman dies at end BvS and nobody gives a shit, you failed. Got more of a reacting from people when Groot died

Man of Steel is loved by white people.
Gunnman is loved by low caste indian men.

>>212572672
no one love Man of Steel.

>>212572719
no one loves you

>>212567041 (OP)
Corenswet was really good. His Kent is fun to watch, and he showed more acting chops during his 5 minute “interview” scene than Cavill did in any of the three films he was in. Cavill’s interpretation was fine but it will forever be tainted by starring in two of the worst superhero films of all time. I’ve seen The Witcher and the Ungentlemanly Warfare movie and he was ok in both… nothing amazing but he has charisma.

I’m disappointed that Gunn didn’t have Superman dispatch goons immediately to set a basis for his power, we see him struggle immediately (literally). Snyder did the same thing, which Singer of all people avoided. I feel it’s always important to show a superhero absolutely in control of a situation early on to add stakes to the big spectacle fight at the end. Think back to Raimi’s Spider-Man trilogy, the Iron Man films, the Captain America films, Thor, Batman, Black Panther… they always have the establishing fight scene where the hero easily takes out random thugs or soldiers. Gunn put that at the VERY END of his Superman, and I feel it would have been more effective to see that earlier on in the film.

Hoult stole the show, btw.

>>212567041 (OP)
Ain't no debate, Man of Steel is the blueprint.

>>212572831
>Cavill’s interpretation was fine but it will forever be tainted by starring in two of the worst superhero films of all time.
This, a dark and gritty take on Superman could work and be good, but Snyder's sensibilities and reputation as a filmmaker really fucking hurt his run

>>212572831
>Corenswet was really good.
He was nothing like Superman, and barely did anything as Clark, He was emotional and nagging.

>>212572831
On point analysis, totally agree

>>212572972
He was a perfect Aw Shucks Boy Scout Superman, what are you on about?

>>212572168
I’m not ignoring it I genuinely do not find his character compelling. I have no sense of what the man is like really.
>>212572223
May I ask what other Superman stuff you’ve read and why you didn’t like it? And I’m gonna push back on your point of “always found a way to make a positive difference” in an admittedly meme-y way by pointing out literally everything bad that happens MoS - JL was a result of Clark inadvertently activating the fortress. But in all seriousness I never got the feeling he integrated his human side for the reasons I explained above. I don’t really get the sense he in Lois have fun at home, I’m pretty much left with the impression they just fuck and watch the news together. I mean I guess some may consider that fun but those aren’t the people I’d want to hang out with.

>>212572972
You've clearly never read a comic in your life.

>>212573059
>And I’m gonna push back on your point of “always found a way to make a positive difference” in an admittedly meme-y way by pointing out literally everything bad that happens MoS - JL was a result of Clark inadvertently activating the fortress.
Everything bad that happens in this movie is also because of Superman, though.

Just saw it.
Corneswet is pretty good. I didn't like the movie all too much, I get trying to do All Star Superman but it feel weird. Love the worldbuilding and how it feels as a backbone for future movies.
I do like Cavil in some scenes but I really don't like his superman all too much, I feel his heroic scenes are goated, but he feels too much as he's WAY too aware he's a "Superman", dunno how else to explain it, but it's not his fault, Snyder wanted to desperately make a deconstruction of a character while developing this world.

both were good, but the script didn't do favors to Cavil.

>>212573023
He behaves and talks like Starlord, not how Superman is in the comic. Superman doesn't cry at the drop of the hat for any reason no keep calling others "dude".
>>212573115
I've read more comics than you.

>>212572831
>Hoult stole the show, btw
This, which makes me glad he didn’t get the role of Superman. His weak chin wouldn’t work.

>>212573158
>Superman doesn't cry at the drop of the hat
You're a retard and you clearly don't read comics.

Chicago here

Im going to shoot and burn the whole cinema tomorrow in protest for snyder. Stay tunned and watch the news

>>212573158
he doesn't act like Starlord at all. I don't think he even quips once in the movie.

>>212573115
>You must read the comics to appreciate the movie version
Then the movie version sucks.

>>212573200
You're the same shill that has been posting this one page you found in Google Images for a month now because it resemble somewhat the trailer you defended so hard.

>>212573218
You lost.

>>212573215
Yes, supes was more old-fashioned while star lord was just a quip machine

>>212573231
>no rebuttal
Wow that was quick conversation. Maybe next time at least attempt to refute something

>>212573128
Then I’ll probably end up leveling the same criticism. I think in a first film the hero should be saving people from something that would have came but for the hero’s involvement. Leave sequels for villain reactions. Gunn’s Superman has the benefit of not being an “origin” movie in the traditional sense.

>>212573276
Now show Superman crying because he doesn't like being called Supershit.

>>212573298
What an oddly specific thing to say. I accept your concession, kiddo.

>>212573286
>Gunn’s Superman has the benefit of not being an “origin” movie in the traditional sense.
But it is the first Superman movie of this universe and in the movie others are fixing the mess created because of him.

>>212573158
Superman crying because he couldn’t save a random Pajeet due to being affected by (artificial) kryptonite is 100% in-character. Star Lord is a bumbling idiot surrounded by people with more brains (Rocket), heart (Groot), guts (Drax), and skill (Gamora) that somehow finds himself assuming the role of a leader through sheer cockiness and gusto. Gunn’s Superman doesn’t come across as dumb at all, he’s genuine to a fault.

>>212573242
MoS is resting at the finish line of $930M (with inflation), S2025 stumbled at $7.

So I'm not sure how MoS lost. S2025 still has some time to catch up...but I don't think it will be enough if I'm honest.

>>212573324
That's what happened in this movie. Superman is constantly crying, For several reasons. Same with Lex.

>>212573342
>Superman crying because he couldn’t save a random Pajeet due to being affected by (artificial) kryptonite is 100% in-character.
It's also a sign of low intelligence, because if there's something you couldn't have done anything about then you don't blame yourself for it.

Snyder's Superman is superior because he's stoic, yes he's emotionless to the emotional masses but that just means he's in control of himself more than others are, he's coldly rational and his emotions over killing Zod are shown to negatively impact him because he broke his stoic facade and let his emotions break him

The narrative makes it clear had he not reacted like he did then he would be on to becoming what humanity needs

>>212567041 (OP)
>The one where superman looks bored 95% of the time vs the one where he feels like a human being

>>212573342
>Gunn’s Superman doesn’t come across as dumb at all
He does. He comes off as dumb, overly emotional, and a cry baby. He is not shown any respect or loyalty. He's talked down by everyone. The movie tells us that he is important and popular but fail to show this. All we see is people giving him shit. Even Lois.

>>212573344
The bait doesn't work anymore. This will be the most remembered Superman film of the next 30 years and you can't do anything about it

cope

>>212573403
>Snyder's Superman is superior because he's stoic
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>212573407
>Did someone leave the oven on?

>>212572831
I still can't believe Batman v. Superman is a real movie, how did they fuck up something that should've been such an obvious home run and fuck up THAT bad. How does Superman die in the 2nd movie?

>>212573409
>>212573396
Batman confusing la with le is more dumb than anything Superman did in this film. I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

I really want World's Finest ngl

>>212573413
If you want to troll it needs to be realistic. All of the YouTube reviewers that look forward to it is saying it's "mid" and "worse than MoS" (even the ones that hated MoS).

It's not even officially released yet, so the people that have seen it literally queued for the tickets.

But at the end of the day, reviews and opinions don't pay the bills. $930M is the bar that Snyder set.

>>212573331
Again so I’ll probably still criticize it, but again this isn’t his first outing as Superman and we can’t point to choice by Gunn’s Superman that led to all of his subsequent problems and put the world at risk multiple times. Like I said this criticism is not a strong conviction of mine, just something I find amusing

>>212573409
heroes don't command respect, they earn it. By the end of the film, Superman becomes the symbol of hope

>>212573452
Literally emotions are a crutch that hurts humanity as a whole, if we'd abandon emotion altogether and feelings we'd have an advanced society by now based entirely around science and logic and cold hard facts

Point is, abandoning emotion entirely is the logically correct way of living

>>212573508
I'm wondering how they'll characterize Batman. I liked Corenswet's Supes, felt like a cool guy who's still figuring himself out, so hoping he grows into to be more confident in his next outing.

>>212573485
That i can agree with you. Nothing is more dumb that Pattinson's Batman. That was... i don't even have words. Even Pa Kent in this movie is smarter than Pattinson's Bats.

>>212573515
so you're entire argument is the earnings yet all you can do is argue is hypotheticals? Kek.

>>212573403
Hes literally one middle age woman’s life away from destroying the planet

>>212573403
>>212573409
>Muh stoic, muh emotional
Jesus you guys are so pathetic, Barbie made fun of you for a reason lol

>>212573561
The Batman is better than every Dark Knight movie.

>>212573515
>not even officially released yet
Friday movies come out the Thursday before they "officially" release, boomer. everyone could've seen it today.

All I know is my favorite YouTubers all fucking hate so I do too

>>212567041 (OP)
Both ok, but I like Cavil supe more

>>212573584
I don't care about Superman being super stoic.
I just found Superman in this movie really, REALLY emotional. To the point of him coming off as unstable emotionally.

By the way, i am complaining about almost every male character in this movie being emotional as fuck. Even Pa Kent was chastised by Ma Kent for being too emotional. Lex is constantly on the verge of crying. There's something weird here. Probably that male feminist thing about men needing emotions.

>>212573515
The only nigga I follow on YouTube who reviews movies loved it

>>212573651
I too like the brooding charisma vacuum more.

>>212568303
>340 vs 190
>250k vs 1k
>settled

>>212573662
I just saw the movie and you're grossly exaggerating.

>>212571371
What movie is this?

>>212573701
This is all snyderfags have left now which is hilarious to me. They're so mindbroken by the new movie being successful.

>>212573471
Superman just met his real father, his origins, how does he react? Well

>>212573677
I miss the Spill.com days
https://youtu.be/cCqS-ojV1kE?si=Q3BtnDUlIor6b9AX

>>212571505
Euh what about his mom? Colleagues? In case you havent seen, supes was a nomad for the majority of his life looking for answers

>>212573715
No, i am not. The women are shown to be more in control of their emotions in this movie and then even go as far as giving them some stoicism. Take Lois saying Superman is being a little bitch, saying she is bad at relationships, being into punk rock, and holding back in saying "I love you". Lois was clearly the "man" in the relationship here. You could call her Louie and it'd be a better fit.

>>212571509
>>212571505
After work, Im gonna eatch bvs again just to spite you

>>212573771
>CINEMA, MATINEE. I AIN'T GOT 7.50 TO PAY
we all do

>>212572349
Byrne was writing in the late 80s predominantly. Morrison and Waid were actually writing Superman in the late 90s JLA

>>212573563
>so you're entire argument is the earnings
your*

Of course. Why wouldn't it be? Do you think Zaslav gives a shit about the reviews? Do you think Gunn's contract will be renewed if this movie severely under-performs, or let him have the same autonomy if it fails to meet expectations?

How do you differentiate paid shills and bots from actual people? Well, shills are a lot louder and bots don't buy tickets. So...yes, this movie's success comes down to the Box Office, and not the number of "oh it was decent" reviews.

>>212573645
>Needing YouTubers to decide your opinion for you
I can't fathom being that much of an NPC

>>212573877
>Zaslav gave a shit about reviews?
He probably does actually. According to Ayer, The entire reason he lost control of Suicide Squad and why the studio tried to make it more upbeat and less dark in the edit is because WB was freaking out about the poor reviews to BvS and the much more positive reception to Deadpool.

>>212573772
I added his mom. He’s not friends with Parry and idk if he exchanges a single line of dialogue with anyone else at the Planet. Iirc he doesn’t

I've seen plenty of people say that Man of Steel is the best Superman movie. A lot of people disagree, but at least there are some people.

WHAT I HAVEN'T SEEN is ANYONE saying that this new Superman movie is the best. It's always behind the Donner I and II, and almost always behind Man of Steel and Superman Returns when ranked.

>>212574038
>Behind Donner 1
Because the people who like this one would probably like the Donner 1 too since while they're not that similar they both have an upbeat tone. The type of person who loves Donner 1 probably wouldn't like MoS and vice versa.
>almost always ranked behind MoS and Returns
nobody but retards do this

>>212574092
I like Donner and disliked this, and feel people use the old movies as a shield to prove that they also like the character and respect the old movies, or to say that this is similar to the old movies when it clearly isn't.

>>212574092
I'm just pointing out that no one thinks this movie is the best (despite being new and fresh), and I've seen quite a few rankings.

I would expect at least someone to say that it's their favorite, and it's weird that it's not the case.

>>212574238
I didn't say the people who liked Donner who like this automatically, but it makes a lot more sense that people who like 2025 would also like the originals if they want a more colorful Superman.

>>212574264
yeah Anon I'm sure you who has a bunch of basedjacks saved in preperation for this movie is totally looking for unbiased reviews and keeping an open mind.

I dont care really :)

>>212574321
Based

>>212573773
I can't take lois being a girlboss when her boyfriend is a literal god. She was an afterthought in this movie, didn't bother me

>>212572831
>Cavill’s interpretation was fine but it will forever be tainted by starring in two of the worst superhero films of all time
Retarded take. None of Cavill's films were the greatest but they certainly weren't the worst. All of them did fairly well and more people liked them than hated them.

>>212574355
What pissed me off more was she getting awed at Mister Terrific sequence and almost lusting for his prowess. Bitch, you're fucking dating SUPERman. FOR THREE YEARS! C'mon. Is this Superman THAT lame he never did anything that amazed her?

>>212573115
The majority of fans of superheroes have never read a comic. Even the worst CW capeslop has an audience magnitudes greater than the most successful comic.

>>212570352
>David Superman has personality and spends the entire time saving people
It was the same in Man of Steel but all you can think about is how off putting it is that he killed a genocidal maniac

>>212567041 (OP)
Right isn’t bad but left has higher highs. There’s no noteworthy shot or scene in the new movie which is a shame.

>>212574302
>yeah Anon I'm sure you who has a bunch of basedjacks saved in preperation for this movie is totally looking for unbiased reviews and keeping an open mind.
My arguments are not subjective, so it doesn't matter whether I'm biased or not.

I've not seen ANYONE rank this new movie the best Superman movie. That's either true or false (and doesn't depend on my opinion).

Of course, if you've seen such a list you could show it to me, in which case my point would lose its value.

>>212574399
kek superman cannot satisfy her man
She needs the bbc

>>212569097
>invincible son, restrict your powers until you're old enough to become Superboy(TM)

Why? Why not just train him to go round saving people, age 10 or whatever?

>>212573413
It will be forgotten in a few weeks, maybe a month like every other movie that's come out over the past several years. What was the last movie that's come out that had any sort of lasting cultural relevancy?

>>212574374
I had the misfortune of using funds provided by my employer to purchase a ticket to Batman v Superman on opening night. It’s the worst movie I’ve ever seen. I somehow doubt Justice League is much better.

>>212572831
>starring in two of the worst superhero films of all time.

lmao. opinion discarded

>>212574579
What I'm getting here is that Gunn's Superman has no staying power since the pacing is too fast, the humor is forced & ruins emotional moments + the ending sucks.

>>212571384
>>212571634
Supermans home planet was destroyed and if he killed everyone, then he would be alone. It's a symbiotic relationship.
I wasn't talking about the human species needing Superman or else they go extinct. If Superman wasn't there to save them from some giant plane crash, it doesn't mean everyone would and should then die. That had nothing to do with any point I was making you absolute fucking troglodyte loser. Superman doesn't actually exist and we still survive you fucking moron. Do you think the humans in any universe with superman are just stronger than us or something so there's a difference?

>>212572896
Man of steel has been the blueprint for a shit ton of super hero movies and show for the kast decade. And yet normies keep spitting on it. Absolutely no respect, its a shame. I hate normies. We cant have cool shit because of them

>>212574651
The ending is fine, it is the start that is horrible. They did a fucking exposition dump to explain the context of the movie. I'm actually surprised that most people aren't talking about this. Yeah, you don't need to establish an origin for such a famous character but if you're going to put a fucking text at the start of the movie to explain shit then you should rethink your approach and at least go with the goddamn origin then.

>>212567105
You know, that's a question most other Superman media never seem to ask. Why the fuck SHOULD Superman help anybody? Do we even DESERVE his help? Just because he has powers that means he's Earth's permanent helper slave?

>SUPERMAN HELP ME PLS OMG PLS HELP ME SUPERMAN AYUDAME DIOS MIO POR FAVOR AYUDAME PLS HELP ME SUPERMAN PLS

>>212574399
I meant that i can't take lois being a girlboss seriously when she is a puny little thing compared to her god boyfriend, she didn't feel annoying to me, she was cute. For the last part i never noticed that
>>212574558
Stop watching bbc porn loser

>>212574743
No one is bringing this shit back you stupid fucking Indian
/tv/ Is going to have to deal with months of this bullshit cope because you stupid fucking street shitting subhumans are obsessed with snyder shit and his bollywood movies

>>212569097
Calling Kor-El evil because he wants his son to breed seems rather immature. This Superman doesn’t seem to mind kidnapping or threatening world leaders anyway—might as well conquer Earth for world peace, just to be sure.
Btw why did luther not just create a bunch of ultra man?

>>212574743
fucking hell i only have 10 hours to get to London

>>212573200
lmao. You can make superman do anything in those stupid soap opera vomics with an infinite amount of universe. Thibk about it you moron, would a godlike figure be so emotional? Anger, fear, tears all this is admission of loss of control lmao. Its called superman not superwoman

>>212574651
Not OP. The new movie has more in common with Venom:LTBC, Barbie, and Black Adam than Superman Returns if that makes any sense to you. It’s built as a comedy with moments of sincerity than it is a sincere movie with moments of comedy. While I don’t consider Corenswet’s Superman to be that different from Cavill’s in approach (early 30s, identity confusion, broods a little) the world is entirely whimsical, not realistic.

>>212574546
A list of what? A compilation of YouTube reviewers ranking it as the best? I haven't even seen people making "list rankings" already. Everybody I've seen rates it more or like 7-8/10.

While most people I see rate MoS like 4/10 with the odd schizo rating it 9/10. Personally I'd rather be in the former.

Is it weird that I want more JL2017?

>>212573407
So, listen, i know you're a flaming cockgoblin sissy boy and that's okay, but real men only look "bored" to you because they are stoic, meaning thoughtful, reserved and confident. You, on the other hand, are used to observing gay hollywood s0yb0y neurotic crybaby "men" as rolemodels.

>>212573407
but he's not human, he is an alien. he will never be human.

>>212574938
No, there's nothing wrong with being effeminate or expressing your feminity in this day and age.

>>212574780
bro
Did you see her face?
she was so wet
Everybody knew in that instant moment what she was thinking about, what she desired.

>>212573532
Like Krypton? Cause that idea didn’t really work out for them

>>212574626
>>212574591

>>212569983
>>212570080
Season 1 was the best adaptation to TV while Season 4 had become the most Comic Book

>>212574857
Superman had never been about “control.” Quite the opposite. He’s a bit of a hothead who wears his feelings on his sleeve

>>212575357
You are arguing with snyderbots, don't bother.

>>212575111
Because that's a fictional depiction based on ideas written by emotional people

IRL if we all suppressed or had the drugs/tech to remove emotions entirely we'd unironically be in a better place

ITT: arguing over Christopher Reeve's table scraps. There's literally no one who can follow him, all other Supes are trash.

Now LEX on the other hand, is a much more interesting debate. Even the most garbage Superman movie/tv has kino Lex performances. Can't even say that about Joker bcuz Fag Leto ruined the winstreak.

>the strongest bestest man in the world is a jew
yeah real subtle

>>212575357
T.

>>212573662
Anon if what you say is true then women will prefer snyders stoic superman who also happens to be hotter.
We won.

>>212575476
kryptonian*

>>212575445
Eisenberg was awful as Lex.

>>212573344
>imaginary jew numbers = quality
God /tv/ is the special needs class of 4Chan. Even /v/ is smarter.

>>212575399
By what metrics?

>>212573158
>how Superman is in the comic
comicfags neck yourselves. 100000 different writers = 100000 different personalities, no capeshit is a "character" just a brand mascot. Comicfags might as well argue about the lore of FrootLoops Toucan Sam.

>>212575519
Zuckerberg Lex triggers 4Chuds bcuz he's literally (You)

>>212575598
Look at the state of the world, almost all of the division is emotionally oriented. There is no logic, only feelings which hinders intellectual progress because intellectualism actively leaves emotion behind because it clouds objectivity.

The mark of a true genius is cold indifference to the subjective and focusing on what's objectively true, feelings are entirely irrelevant

Because of strong emotions we create unstable people

If we abandon emotions altogether all of these problems like division, personal instability, and ego would be gone

Has anyone noticed how the shills match this exact programming to a tee?
>always 2-3 lines, never more than 1-2 paragraphs
>rarely praise the film beyond the vaguest of terms
>low effort bad faith arguments heavily reliant on ad hominem
>respond to literally every criticism of the film
>generally uses all lowercase

Is it deliberate marketing patois (i.e. "talk like you're one of them 4chan kids") or how this batch of bots are programmed?

>>212575399
>IRL if we all suppressed or had the drugs/tech to remove emotions entirely we'd unironically be in a better place
That would be too drastic and would ironically dehumanize people for the goal of achieving peace. I'd say a better solution would be to offer everyone what they want so that they're content, which will likely only be feasible in a virtual reality environment, at least in the beginning. I do think Big Brother can be a helpful thing if done right though. Humans need some level of temperance for their own good.

>>212574852
Ultraman was so retarded he had to actively micromanage a single one with an entire team of scientists, they couldn't make any more and have them be useful

im actually keking at al the snyder meat riders seething lmao

>>212567105
At least the Kents got characterization in MoS. They were just stupid hicks in the new one.

>>212576036
Pa Kent had alzheimer in this, i thought that was cool.

>>212567041 (OP)
The big reason Gunnman beats Snyderman IMO is the fact that Gunn tried so hard to make metahumans some sort of religious figures with some kind of destiny to be heroes, gods looking down at the mortals, meanwhile Gunnman emphasizes that all that really matters is wanting to do the right thing, which is what Superman's always meant to actually be.

The OP image kinda sums it up desu, Snyderman's surrounded by dim splotches of gray while Gunnman's looking up to a blue sky.

>>212575946
>That would be too drastic and would ironically dehumanize people for the goal of achieving peace
That's literally the only acceptable option, the only rational option. I'd rather an emotionless tyranny than what we have now because it would unironically be much better
Peace between nations for me at least is all or nothing

>>212576187
But Snyder's take is comic accurate and consistent to stuff written by Grant Morrison.

>>212575519
Thats because he's not the original Lex, he's a young Lex Jr

>>212575631
Comics work on mimetic selection. Some stories and their interpretation of the characters are “truer” than others

>>212576187
Define "doing the right thing"

>>212567041 (OP)
Just got back from the new one. It was really mid.

Superman is kind of dull, looks alright. Nowhere near the Cavill caliber.

Lois is boring.

Lex is just psychotic and his "game" is lame.

I liked Jimmy Olsen. Fun swap for him finally.

Green Lantern boring.

Mr. Terrific OK but the humor didn't land half the time.

Krypto had better action sequences and fights than Superman did.

Supes got beat the f up way too much.

Suprisingly the shapeshifting dude was one of the better acting scenes.

>>212567041 (OP)
>absolute gigachad who is the epitome of masculinity
>whiny faggot, broccoli-haired, low test, zoomer
why is it even a debate?

>>212576062
I literally tuned out to the 5 seconds he was onscreen, if they mentioned that I honestly wasn't paying attention. Why did they cast randos that act like 80iq rednecks?

>>212576269
this is what is absolutely mind boggling. anyboidy who has read a modern superman comic knows that his fights frequently involve massive property damage yet there's magically never any loss of life from it. zack snyder had the balls to add some moral ambiguity to the premise with the idea that superman isn't perfect and when shit like zod happens he just has to deal with the fact that collateral damage happens that he can't stop and sometimes the only way to deal with a genocidal godlike being is to snap his fucking neck so the world can keep on living.

>>212577467
I was talking more about superhumans being compared to gods, specially the Greek pantheon.

david cornswet is 6'4. cavill is 6'1. the debate is over.

>>212577535
that's what i thought the snyderverse did so well was treating the heroes like mythological beings walking among us instead of a bunch of mopes in jumpsuits making stupid wisecracks.

>>212576036
>Mfw a couple of farmers from kansas look like hicks instead of grizzled movie stars