Thread 212584121

>Lower than Cap 4 in Germany
>Not even debuting at number 1 in France
>DOA in China
>Lower than the Batman in UK
>Non existent in South Korea

Does the world have American fatigue?

>>212584121 (OP)
No. It's just capeshit fatigue in general.

>>212584121 (OP)
It's too american for yuropoors

But it's doing well here in Romania, we wanted a american approved president like Calin Georgescu but evil EU said no no

>>212584133
Then explain Deadpool 3

>>212584121 (OP)
Superman is a boring character and Nolan changed him for a reason

>>212584158
Nolan ruined DC

>>212584121 (OP)
>capeslop
It will do wonders in India and Pakistan

>>212584150
Nostalgia from a better time.

>>212584171
This spic's gf is gonna be bored to death

>>212584121 (OP)
Have you seen the board Today?

>>212584168
Nolan saved DC after B&R and Returns fucked it

>>212584121 (OP)
it's doing great in latin america

>>212584186
Yeah, I saw what shills and pajeets are capable of. What's your point?

>>212584121 (OP)
people outside the US dont like superman that much, also people are tired of capeshit

>>212584190
Returns was kino

Pleb

>>212584199
>if i dont like it then its shills
Ok pajeet

>>212584121 (OP)
keep coping, chudcel
it will make billions. you lost.

>>212584254
Of course the anti-nolantard loves garbage.

>>212584292
>>if i dont like it then its shills
And jeets, yes. Unless it's kikes or troons.

>>212584121 (OP)
>Why is it dead internationally?
Because it's shit, and the rest of the word doesn't worship IPs.

>>212584121 (OP)
Superman was never big outside the US.

>never dabbled in Amerimutt propaganda
>is by far and away the most popular superhero on earth

Why don't DC learn from this?

>>212584121 (OP)
Anon, give them the break - they've only spent $200 millions on shilling campaign.

Nobody outside America really cares for Boy Scout Superman. While people around the world know who Superman is, obviously, it wasn't until Man of Steel that the films made serious money overseas. Historically, Superman was a very US-focused franchise.

So when this new Superman has none of the things people liked about Man of Steel, there's going to be tepid/hesitant reception.

>>212584121 (OP)
Antisemitism

Ironically Man of Steel actually had a decent international Box Office pull

This is what happens when you let your movie look like a hallmark ad

>>212584402
Yes, indians hate it now
SAD

New superman is americna and kino. Snyder is antiamerican.

>>212584171
Eh... I had a similar experience purchasing tickets yesterday, and for a saturday showing too, though it wasn't the only showing that day
>>212584195
I'm from there and the showing I purchased tickets to was mostly empty
>>212584393
>what is the cringe flag scene from spiderman 3?

>>212584121 (OP)
I SAY SNYDERJEET
YOU SAY SORRY

>>212584365
Jurassic world says otherwise

>>212584121 (OP)
Despite the massive marketing/bot push it does not represent the average moviegoer. The only people truly excited for this are people that vividly hate Cavill’s Superman and Latin America consoomerists. Actual normal people are not just indifferent but also fatigued. Have you seen those Superman trailers? Why would anyone think “I NEED TO SEE THIS!”

>>212584121 (OP)
The world has milennial writing and reddit humor fatigue

>>212584308
of course, a jeet loves nolanslop.

Never in my life i saw so many nerds tracking how much money a movie makes overseas in FUCKING PREVIEWS. Not only here but also on social media. Get a job fags

>>212584435
And i'm from brazil and the theather was No way home level of crowd

>>212584121 (OP)
Jew fatigue, actually.

>>212584472
>you can't discuss movies on /tv/ because.....you just can't ok

>>212584472
uhm where are we again?
not op but he's cool

>>212584121 (OP)
Everyone hates america atm
Bad time for american patriotism: the movie

>>212584121 (OP)
Superman is very American. Also not exactly the best time to make a movie about how American values are so awesome, what with the dude we have in the white house. It kind of feels like going to the gym and your trainer keeps using himself as an example of the benefits of working out but hes obese and you are just sitting there confused.

>>212584426
Snyder's films are actually super American, because they're heavily tied up in Chris Terrio's hatred for the US government, and his hatred for David Goyer and what he seems to view as Goyer's desire to deep throat as much government cock as possible in his screenplays.

>>212584121 (OP)
I hear this is just black adam with james gunn humour? I didn't mind black adam actually, but shouldn't superman be... I dunno... better?

>>212584121 (OP)
I think it could be a masterpiece and still fail. The superhero hype has comed and gone.

>>212584513
>>212584515
It's true that is a bad time for America centric hero but the movie is the opposite of America=Good

>>212584446
Penis status?

I personally think this movie's fate is gonna be similar to The Force Awakens. A lot of hype about it being a return to form, followed by a slide into apathy because it simply has nothing to inflame the spirit the way the Star Wars Prequels or Zack Snyder's DC movies did.

That scene in Man of Steel where Superman stops the world engine still gives me chills today. It's such an incredible scene. Lawrence Fishburn holds the woman's hand and her gaze, and then Superman stands beneath the crushing weight, and it's all kino and symbolic of Christ bearing the sins of the world. And then he takes flight, and it's like you're watching pure, distilled cinema being injected straight into your eyes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSjI7gwuKtg
The new Superman has nothing like this. It's just "fine" and that's really not good enough.

kek

>>212584554
That's not Jeremy Renner

>>212584541
or it just sucks
it has so much hype
people knew it, they just decided not to watch it

>>212584543
And you would have to watch the movie to know that, most people are not a /tv/ autist. They are not gonna do an essays worth of research before going out to watch a movie. Some dude in France with his GF watching a movie on a friday is just gonna see the poster for Superman and think "oh yeah, the American way cape guy"

>>212584472
What you see is the result if aggressive shills campaign WB are proceeding with to make people believe the movie is amazing and is going to be box office hit.
People are feeling they are getting fucked with and push back with an equal force.
That's what you are seeing.

>>212584578
actually pretty good

>>212584586
You are gay

Its kino, kys

>>212584572
That movie is still shit, snyderjeet

Initial box office has never determined cultural legacy. Remember that. Batman v Superman had one of the worst second week drops in box office history, yet we're still fucking talking about it. Yet movies that did fantastically in theatres are forgotten like a fart in the wind.

>only has 2 weeks before it's legs are completely destroyed

Its over

>>212584643
Sorry, but there's a reason we all love the Star Wars Prequels and nobody gives a shit about the Sequels. True art by an auteur vs nerd pandering slop.

>>212584650
whats the point of cultural legacy if it's shitty.....people talk about Acolyte and The Room time to time too....

woke lost

>>212584661
Man of steel is nowhere near the star wars prequels level of appreciation except snyderjeets, in fact this movie famously tries to right it's wrongs

>>212584699
it was not heavily or blatantly woke
the story and casting sucked
CGI was bad too

>>212584471
Nah that camp faggotry of returns can only appeal to homos and browns like you

>>212584121 (OP)
No, it has competition and i don't know if WB had balls or dumb for not moving the release

>>212584121 (OP)
>Does the world have American fatigue?
big time

>>212584728
Ironically, MoS tried to right the wrongs of Superman Returns: slow pacing, weirdo Stalkerman, lack of action etc.

>>212584121 (OP)
It came out today and it's barely noon.

>>212584673
Nah, The Acolyte doesn't haunt people's dreams. They don't wake up in a sweat thinking about how they'll never craft a Batman fight scene better than the werehouse fight. How they'll never craft 9/11 imagery more visceral than Batman running towards the collapsing buildings as everyone else runs away. How they'll never craft a line as perfect as:
>I'm older now than my father ever was. This may be the only thing I do that matters
You're not brave. Men are brave.
>"Pious American fictions! Men with power obey neither policy nor principle Ms. Lane. No one is different. No one is neutral."
>I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason...My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all... They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to!
>Oh, look at us. This is how it all caves in, civilization on the Wayne Manor's out the window. But who would believe me, I... I'm insane. I'm not even fit to stand trial.
There are so many lines in that film that are burned in the mind.
>Plain lo, in the morning. Lola in slacks. Lois Lane.
Notice that nobody is quoting lines from the new Superman? Like, what are the iconic lines? Where is the equivalent of:
>A good death is its own reward.
>Look at this. We could have built a new Krypton in this squalor, but you chose the humans over us. I exist only to protect Krypton. That is the sole purpose for which I was born. And every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good of my people. And now... I have no people. My soul, that is what you have taken from me!

>>212584150
Nostalgia fest that was banking on 25 years of build up. Also, Deadpool is allowed to swear and be extremely violent, Superman is not

>>212584121 (OP)
No one gives a shit about Superman.
He is just a shit character.
Just focus on Batman movies. Those are good.

>america fatigue

Cool term

And yes

The budget was supposedly $225 million. What box office do you think would be acceptable for Superman?

>>212584728
The Star Wars Sequels were created to please Prequel haters, which is why they were such a nothing bunch of movies. Basically they wanted to pander to the "I watched Star Wars/Superman with my dad in 1978" audience.

>>212584393
Superheroes are American propaganda, but how the fuck did you forget this?
I remember my entire theater laughing when I saw this opening day in 2007

>>212584787
Snyder managed to be make Superman more boring than superman returns that was impressive, the last superhero you have to turn brooding is freaking superman and that ruined is image for years

>>212584832
>one movie out of 15+ with Amerimutt propaganda
>ends the series

They tried it once and it was a failure. No others had it.

>>212584121 (OP)
slop fatigue

>>212584133
>muh capeshit fatigue that doesn’t exist
i have massive faggot fatigue. you’re making me extra tired right now.

>>212584854
Snyder made Superman popular. He made Superman someone that audiences could relate to on a personal level because they live in a world that is cruel and difficult and where they have to make ugly choices. Where they question how one can stay good in an ugly world. It echoes the exact same sentiments as Nolan's Batman. "We tried to be decent men in an indecent time." (Same writer, remember.) Man of Steel is a deconstruction of the core idea of Superman in a post-9/11 world. We can cling to the bright, cheery fantasies that Gunn offers us, or we can embrace the darkness in our own hearts. We can, like Batman in Justice League, have faith.

>>212584121 (OP)
>movie barely out
>already say its a flop
Atleast wait until Monday

>>212584787
>>212584933
I wonder what the next reboot will be like. DC is not meant to be a comedy so they better realize this soon.

>>212584933
>what are projections

>>212584933
It's already been out in some territories for a day or so. Box office tracking is showing that it'll probably perform similarly to MoS in US, maybe a bit better, but dramatically worse overseas. China is particularly bad.

>>212584133
that and people just dont go the cinemas as much anymore

>>212584933
Noooooooooo, you can totally tell how the entire theatrical run is going to be form the first day!

>>212584969
>DC is not meant to be a comedy
Snyder pollution of DC movies had fatal consequences

>>212584818
Every movie is setup like a corporation. Jews make money by shorting it like a typical company. Then the movie production files for bankruptcy. This let's them avoid paying taxes and residuals.

Is it out in India? Indians love this kind of movie that's all spectacle. Their bollywood slop is full of it. If it fails there then DC is fucking done for.

>it's noon on the day of release in the uk
>it hasn't beat batman yet!
kek, snyderjeets getting desperate.

>>212584578
>Jurassic World: Renaissance
Actually cool name desu

>>212585066
No, the UK is one of the few regions it's doing okay in.

>>212584171
>I'm scared it won't do well
>I desperately want DC to stay alive
Why are people such fags and getting so emotionally invested in stupid shit? There's nothing original here it's just another adaptation, the character and the comics he's based on will still exist tomorrow. Give it a few years and they will try again, literally what's the problem here.

Does nothing. Wins.

>>212585102
A lot of them are upset because this movie was "Superman done right" so if it underwhelms it empowers all the Man of Steel fans. It's basically a religious/political thing. To make matters worse for them, the only positive thing anyone can talk about is how the film is super hopeful and totally poggers. Nobody is talking about the dialogue or that amazing scene you just have to see.

It's funny to see how Warner and Disney screwed up the cheesecake in their films and how they are making films that no one wants to see and whoever sees them talks bad about the film to their friend, rotten tomatoes is not the real world, as long as they give the keys to directors like Janes Gunn you know the result

>>212585171
Holy shit dude i dont care about it but the movie officially comes out TODAY maybe let people see it so they can talk about it

>>212584121 (OP)
>Why is it dead internationally?
Is it a banger in the burgerland?

>>212584121 (OP)
main character is jewish and activates defense mechanisms in goyim audiences, reducing ticket purchases

it's crazy how jews still think they're still chameleons after 40 years

>>212585209
Get woke

>>212584854
I'm not talking personal preferences here, what you and I think constitutes a good Superman movie is irrelevant, Superman Returns was perceived as a failure by WB, so they "corrected course", which is something WB often does. Man of Steel could almost be seen as a reactionary move after the success of Avengers.

>>212584896
if it doesn't exist, then why haven't i watched a marvel movie since the eternals?

>>212584141
>But it's doing well here in Romania,
Romania is mostly irrelevant
>we wanted a american approved president like Calin Georgescu
He was literally a fucking socialist, Ceausescu-lite
>but evil EU said no no
EU saved your country from becoming yet another totalitarian dictatorship like Russia, Hungary, China etc.

>>212584986
It's going to do better than MoS in the us it has much better wom

>>212584986
so it hits 1 billion at best?

>>212584121 (OP)
America fatigue/active dislike and it's capeshit.

>>212585216
>the movie officially comes out TODAY maybe let people see it so they can talk about it
That's the point. It came out days ago. The official release date is misleading.

>>212585292
It'll be lucky to get 600M globally. There is some concern about the US box office being very front loaded. This isn't a Sinner situation where it has really passionate word of mouth. All people talk about is how the film is hope. There's no real sense of oh, man, you have to go see the movie, that one scene is amazing. That's one of the reasons it's floundering a bit internationally. It has no hook.

>>212584150
Deadpool 3 made $50m less than Avatar 2 domestically. It should have made way more than just $1.3b worldwide

>>212584818
By all accounts it should make more than Man of Steel

It will have impressive second weekend drop.

>>212584752
>it was not heavily or blatantly woke
Not only does it feature a black man saving Superman's ass (twice), but it also features a black Perry White and a strong woman, Lois Lane, who saves the day. Oh, and there are lots of thirdies in many scenes. If that's not the definition of "woke," then what is?

We're likely gonna see a bit of a rotten tomatoes audience score drop over the next couple of weeks because the initial score is all superman megafans praising it.

>>212585102
> the character and the comics he's based on will still exist tomorrow
Not to be a cynic but if this fails don’t be surprised if cash strapped WB does sell off the DC franchise. If there are any comics you cherish get those omnibuses now because you literally might see major belt tightening coming.

>>212584446
i would be more vain about my peepee than my muscles tho

>>212585311
>It'll be lucky to get 600M globally.
But Gunn's Superman has legs. One of his leg is stronger and bigger.

>>212585311
>There is some concern about the US box
I dunno, everyone is talking about the movie here, especially the political angle

>>212585324
Domestically, probably, internationally, not very likely

>>212585045
>Is it out in India? Indians love this kind of movie that's all spectacle
India is boycotting it, especially after the "You're 12 and Indian" remark. But Pakistanis and Bangladeshis will watch this movie; they always do the opposite of what Indians do. For example, if Indians love Snyder, Pakistanis have to hate him. If Indians say that Gunn's Superman is terrible and give it 1/10 on IMDb, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis will give it 10/10. That's how their regional politics work.

>>212584121 (OP)
holy shit why so many threads on this? unironic shilling?

>>212585381
Remember that discourse doesn't translate into box office. People talking about the movie doesn't automatically mean they're going to go actually see it. Part of the film's marketing issue is that it looks like a TV show. It has such immense "wait for streaming" energy. It's unclear how much WoM will actually carry it. And the film being seen as political is going to hurt, not help.

>>212584121 (OP)
The movie will get about $600 million while it needs at least $700 million to break even with the $363 million budget. It’s a commercial bomb.

>>212585404
Actually is doing pretty good in india, maybe the biggest 2025 opening

>>212585427
WB will likely eat the difference if they think the audience WoM is good enough for sequels.

The film that's actually in trouble is Supergirl. With all due respect, who gives a fuck about a Supergirl movie? (B-but it's based on a famous comic!) Yea, which nobody read. Nobody gives a fuck about comics, dude.

>>212584150
They can’t. Deadpool 3, the last Spider-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy 3 by Gunn LMFAO prove that superhero fatigue doesn’t exist, there is only bad movie fatigue.

>>212585418
Probably but
>And the film being seen as political is going to hurt, not help
Woke angle doesn't always hurt it look at wicked or barbie, wicked was carried by US and UK at the box office

Absolutely terrible movie on so many levels.

The writing was truly amateurish:

We begin with one of the most embarrassingly brazen exposition dumps ever seen.

We follow that up with Superdog, because their target audience is 6-year-olds, I guess?

Next we get the quirky retro-robots, which are the first example of why this movie fails, throughout. It's an interesting concept that is given no room to breathe and develope. We'll be seeing a lot of those.

Next, more exposition dumps in the form of Superman's video blog. For a movie that didn't want to be an origin story, why are they showing us this (and only this) part of his origin story? Oh, because they're going to ruin it in a couple of scenes.

Next we meet the first of many half-baked overpowered villains.

Remember that really cool moment at the beginning, when we see Superman bleed? What kind of titan could do that?! What a great mystery?! Oh... it's just ... retro, chubby Iron Man from [insert fake country here]... cool.

Pretty soon we're treated to another staple of this movie: we learn that the stakes in epic battle scenes could not possibly be any lower. Sure, superman is fighting a Godzilla-sized creature, but no worries, because at any given time only one or two people are in danger. Heck, he even has time to save a squirrel.

Later, when a skyscraper falls onto a crowded bridge, Superman is thankfully there just in time to save that one person who is in danger.

1/2

>>212585483
Absolute clown show.

I guess these things would be forgivable if Superman himself were at all interesting or recognizable, even. But he isn't. He has absolutely none of the personality traits of the Superman we all know and love. He also has no agency. The story just happens to him. He makes no actual choices except at one point he want so save Superdog.

Everyone is infinitely powerful until they aren't. Good guys. Bad guys. Dogs. It doesn't matter. There are no rules. No stakes. No emotional weight. Nothing within a hundred miles of suspension of disbelief.

Just an absurdly bad story.
2/2

>>212585381
>everyone is talking about the movie here, especially the political angle
Yes, but most people are talking about how "woke" it is, its pro-immigrant bias, its anti-capitalist/leftist agenda, its "Israel bad" agenda, and so on. This is not a very good angle, especially in a country where nearly 80 million people voted in favor of capitalism, Israel, and traditional values, and against immigration. Americans don't want to watch movies that contradict their political beliefs.

>>212584121 (OP)
who cares? I had fun watching it. Might go see it again, who knows?

>>212585449
When Superman bombs, it will take the entire DC cinematic universe with it. Zaslav can akshually cancel Supergirl for a tax write off like he did with Batgirl.
Warner Bros needed Iron Man-style success and it’s not going to happen.

>>212584673
Acolyte was basically the prequels but with decent acting.

>you WILL NOT enjoy the fun movie
>you WILL seethe about 'politics' all day long
ok sperg

>>212585467
Yeah, think about Hero fatigue and Romance fatigue.
But there are hero and romance elements in almost every movie. If genre fatigue really existed, 80% of movies wouldn’t be able to sell tickets at all.

>>212584572
Having rewatched Man of Steel recently and am currently going through old YouTube reviews I’m feeling nostalgic. It wasn’t perfect but it was so fucking epic and exciting in many ways. The last sequence with the “welcome to the planet” line and the zimmer theme was just perfect. And remember that little stretch between late 2015 early 2016 when we had the BvS and Suicide Squad trailers. Holy fucking ultra hype.

With this movie and the to-be DCU it’s just going through the motions. It’s a good not great movie, painfully inoffensive with no noteworthy moments. The monumental characters are nowhere to be found and no less than years away. Even when we get to Justice League it’s going to be as painfully “just good” as this movie.

>>212584810
I mean the whole thing is stupid. The origin of him is cool but to make him almost indestructible and then having to find ways to make him vulnerable is complete shite, childish character development

>>212585518
You do realize that these posts just make you sound like a marketer, right? No one pays to watch a movie twice.

>>212585333
>>. If that's not the definition of "woke," then what is?
Latina Hawkgirl, holy fuck her scenes were painful i almost left the theater

>>212585585
>No one pays to watch a movie twice.
retards go to see movies more than once all the time, especially big summer blockbusters.

>>212585541
>Zaslav can akshually cancel Supergirl for a tax write off like he did with Batgirl.
Superman would need to make 300m for that to happen

Friday showings are better than expected here (EU) but it’s empty on Saturday so possibly frontloaded

I can't get over how flat this movie is. It's just... there. Things just happen. On the flipside, it's been years, and I still think about Flash running back in time, or the scene where Cyborg helps a homeless woman, or where he says, "I'm not broken". Or when his dad dies. I think about those scenes because they left a burning impression on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjKMHqCDdD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNrQ7CxAq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UagOfs2Lt-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQlRre6kWFM
Superman 2025 is like watching an oil slick. Everything just slips off. Nothing has traction. Is this what movies are meant to be like? Just flat mediocrity? I say this as someone who actually quite likes Gunn's movies. I liked Guardians 3. Where is the sense of emotional resonance that film had?

>>212585753
>I think about those scenes because they left a burning impression on me.
You will remember 2025 Superman with a big foot

>>212584121 (OP)
I was thinking of seeing it, but I might just wait for bluray.

Am I the only one who thinks this movie is a staggering, soul-crushing failure? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading this thread. Are we all watching the same film?

Everyone is celebrating that they "got Superman right," but it feels like we watched a snuff film for an icon. For 90% of the runtime, this wasn't the Man of Steel; it was a neutered, lobotomized, pathetic doormat who gets systematically disemboweled and humiliated from every possible angle. You're praising him for saving a squirrel? To me, that just highlighted how utterly impotent he was against any real threat, looking less like a hero and more like a weeping child who's been kicked into an open sewer. This isn't "hopeful"; it's a profound character assassination.

And the other 10%? The "humor" everyone is cheering for? It's a toxic landfill of bargain-basement anti-humor. These aren't jokes; they're joyless, soul-sucking black holes of wit that feel like a deliberate assault on the very concept of laughter. Everyone cheering for Guy Gardner and the "Justice Gang" feels like they're desperately trying to find something, anything, to like in this mess because the main character was so thoroughly destroyed.

This isn't just a flop; it's a cinematic crime scene. The script feels less "written" and more "excreted" by a hack who not only gave up but seems to hold a deep, personal contempt for Superman, his legacy, and the intelligence of anyone watching. This movie is an act of cultural vandalism, and I can't believe people are actually defending it.

>>212585333
Woke doesn't mean "accepting of different races" you underage nigger. It means leans too far into globohomo in general. Whatever the pop culture politics are, woke is contrarian to that. You, by definition, would be the normie and the contrarians to you and the current popular immigration policy would be the contrarians therefore woke. So in that way Superman is woke, you fucking faggot retard. Not because it has BROWN PEOPLE YOU STUPID PUSSY

>>212585842
There’s parts of it that are neat but the massive trvth nuke that nobody is ready for yet is this movie is basically Black Adam

>>212584121 (OP)
Cause it's a terrible movie.

>>212584158
Gunn also changed superman, soooo

>>212585518
See it at least five more times! There are so many details you miss only watching once!

I had the same problem with The Batmam (2022) the titular character can't do anything by himself, Batman also got his white privilege checked helped by his black sidekick, mixed girlfriend etc. Superman is an alien heh so they can't do that but he clowned by everyone, they come around in the end but still superman is a cute punching bag

>>212584121 (OP)
what numbers are you using? it hasn't been out since wednesday in all those places.

>>212585842
It's The Force Awakens of Superman films, and I guarantee people will both sour on it and stop giving a shit about it in short order. I can't speak for character assassination, but they made Superman lame. Snyder tried to make Superman sad and poignant. There was something to dig into there. Like that scene where he goes to the mountaintop and talks to his father in his metaphorical fortress of solitude. And it's something we can sink our teeth into because those of us who have lost our fathers all have things we would like to say, would like to ask.

I don't know what people are meant to take away from this film. How do they apply the lessons from this film to their own lives? When you watch Batman v Superman for example, we learn a lesson about how when you feel powerless and helpless it can drive even good people to acts of cruelty and spite. But that we have to be better men. (And women.) Superman doesn't have magical solutions to complex problems. But he dies in the act of ultimate sacrifice for a world that is increasingly turning against him. When Batman uses his last Kryptonite bullet to shoot Doomsday instead of Superman it's like this wave of peace has washed over him. Any person who has held onto hate their entire lives can relate to this feeling of loss, yet relief.

I feel like the problem here is that they've gone too far into fantasy. Both Donner and Snyder grounded their Superman in the real world with real, tangible problems. Gunn has created a fantasy world we cannot relate to. With problems that are magically conveniently solved. The reason Superman turning back time at the end of Donner's Superman is so euphoric is that it speaks to every person who wishes they could turn back time for the ones they love. It's the same reason Flash running back in time in Justice League resonates.

I feel like this movie is a thematic paper bag.

Why is it that nobody can say what they liked about the film aside from it was a comic book, it was entertaining, etc? Sounds like astroturfing. And then jeets pick up on it and say it's the best thing they've ever seen. There's no deeper messaging behind anything. Nothing stimulated my mind.

>>212585855
>Woke doesn't mean "accepting of different races" you underage nigger.
Acceptance of different races isnt woke.
Forced acceptance of different races, yes.
Race swap this and that, like The Mermaid.
It is one of the woke elements.
Forced diversity and representation too. NTA

>>212584121 (OP)
>Does the world have American fatigue?
My fatigue is way more from non-Americans talking about America, holy shit, do you guys remember when this site was almost entirely American? Not only how much better it was, but also just that we pretty much never actually talked about America as a country.

>>212585842
>got Superman right
This annoys the hell out of me because there wasn't even anything "wrong" with Snyder's Superman, he had all of Superman's fundamental qualities to want to save people and do good in the world.

>>212586030
Superman personality, Supes is easy-going and a bit of a hot head, cavill was some random brooding alien who wears an S on his chest.

>>212584121 (OP)
It's popular here in SEA tho
Just came out of a big moviehouse in SM Megamall in Manila, we clapped hands and cried.

>>212585992
It reminds me of people praising the lame as shit Percy Jackson TV show simply because it was "Percy Jackson done right" compared to the 2010 movie. The film is inoffensively okay, but the lack of anything beyond that is a huge problem.

What I think is very interesting is that people argue to this day about Pa Kent in Man of Steel and BvS, and his motivations and his paranoia. In this new Superman film, Jor-El is evil and wants Superman to conquer the world. And nobody actually cares of feels like dissecting that. I haven't seen a single piece of meaningful or interesting critique of this movie or its themes because nobody seems to have any takeaway beyond "It was fun". And hey, being fun is fine. Being fun can be lucrative. But this is not how you build a film series. Someone has compared it to reading Issue 200 of a Superman comic book. Which is great except that format is one of the reasons nobody likes American comic books.

>>212585992
I liked Superman character, Lex luthor is pretty comic accurate and the whimsical sci-fi feel of the entire movie

>>212585992
critics are trying not to give away spoilers anon.
I could tell you what I liked as I just got back but you don't seem to be asking in good faith.

I will say that the 3rd act was a bit too busy but otherwise the movie was a 9/10.

>>212586083
He had a range of emotions. He was brooding at points in the story when it made sense to be, rather than behaving like a psychopath and smiling and making quips when something terrible was happening.

>>212586130
It's always a bad sign when people start praising movies for being "accurate to source material" as a primary critique. This is a problem with The Fantastic 4. The new movie is looking very lame for the most part. And any time someone points out that the 2005 film did something better, fans are alll, "BUT IS COMIC ACCURATE! YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE IT!"

>>212586196
I don't think you've actually seen Man of Steel lmao

>>212586130
Luthor and Terrific are the best in this film imo

>>212586230
Multiple times. It's a great movie.

>>212585483
Obligatory reminder that capeshit is shit.

>>212586208
some stuff in the movie is accurate to the comics and some isn't, so you are making a non-argument.

>>212586165
The problem anon is that even on 4chan, nobody is talking about amazing banger lines of dialogue. Nobody is making webms of amazing shots from the movie despite a camrip being out. All they say is that the movie was fun. When part of the Snyder Cut leaked early people were posting gifs and screen grabs constantly. People actually cared. Here, it's this strange sense of "It's okay, I guess" apathy. Where are the amazing shots? Why is nobody quoting dialogue from the film?

>>212586196
Nope he was looking like THIS when he found out about his origins

>>212584121 (OP)
I am from Ukraine and I can't even watch it

>>212586269
I can smell you from across the ocean

>>212586208
This is why studios shoUld outright ignore fanboy claims. Just let the artists speak and screw streamline process

>>212586208
calm down, nicholas hoult is a great actor too, james gunn nailing lex luthor is just something i didn't expect

>>212586269
>Avatar has ZERO CULTURAL IMPACT why can't you quote a SINGLE LINE OF DIALOGUE

lmao get fukt

>>212586269
This accurately sums up to what I've seen as well. It's like they went into it expecting it to be amazing, are compelled to say it's amazing, and have nothing to say beyond that. I saw one person say he walked out feeling like a kid again. As if it's a praise.

>>212586353
People post webms of Avatar 2 all the time. Mainly feet-related webms to be sure. But the thing is, Avatar is a visually driven experience. Dialogue doesn't really matter. If Superman is driven by visuals and not plot that's fine. But where are the screenshots and screengrabs of visuals, then?

>>212586208
The 2005 F4 movie is fucking awful, you have internet brain rot.

is it a legal requirement that American movies have a black person in every single non close-up shot? genuine question.

I hate how anti-White this trash is. Superman is a SuperJew. His girlfriend is Jewish. His main male sidekick is black. His female sidekick is a latina woman with mental disability. His civilian boss is black. The only white people are his retarded pal Jimmy, his arrogant "friend" Green Lantern, and, of course, le evil bald guy Lex Loser, who has an incel-ish vibe in all of his scenes for some reason. Not a single White woman, by the way.
I'm not even racist or a Nazi, but man, I'm so fucking tired of this shit already...

>Nobody is making webms of amazing shots from the movie despite a camrip being out.
>amazing shots
>from a camrip

>>212586389
Not a legal requirement, no. However if they don't do this they'll get "canceled" on Twitter, the critics will destroy the film, a large fraction of the public will take this as a sign not to watch it, it'll become a flop (money loss) and the franchise will die. If it's a one off you might get away with it as a director but you'll likely be cast out by producers as someone who cannot make a profit.

>>212586353
With respect anon, it's a tiny bit of a problem that the reboot has no memorable dialogue when Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League are all filled with great dialogue and memorable shots and memorable scenes and incredibly memorable pieces of music. Why is nobody posting the soundtrack from the movie. When Justice League came out, everyone was posting amazing snippets like this.
https://youtu.be/juiULmf-AZ8?si=beboz9YF6jg7kn8p&t=90
It's starting to feel like Superman 2025 is a nothingburger of a movie that is leaving zero impression on its audience in terms of plot, visuals, dialogue, music, etc. Maybe it's too early, but the film is out in a lot of countries. I'd have expected more praise for the film beyond "I liked Lex and I liked Superman and I liked Krypto." Like, tell us about the incredible scene with Krypto that refined cinema. C'mon, it should be easy. No...?

>>212584121 (OP)
I always wondered how foreigners felt about Superman. At least with Spider-Man I get it, even the costume is fun and not tied to America as much I guess in an obvious way

>>212586386
What don't you like about it? I watched it recently and it was fun, had amazing practical effects, and I really enjoyed that early 2000s vibe. Not an amazing film, but way better than the new one's trailers.

>>212586434
It's a mess of a movie, but In the Lost Lands' visuals were so striking that people were posting screengrabs from the camrip. But I guess that's what happens when you have a real director like Paul W.S. Anderson or Zack Snyder instead of James Gunn.

>>212586386
Still better than Gunn's entire filmography, and Jessica Alba was hot AF, much more so than all of these bogged tranny-looking whores in this flick.

>>212586117
>What I think is very interesting is that people argue to this day about Pa Kent in Man of Steel and BvS, and his motivations and his paranoia.

No, they don't. They mock Pa Kent killing himself to save an elderly dog while telling his kid to let people die, and the silly disconnect that Clark didn't even need his super speed to save his dad. You've created this scenario in your head that its some philosophy disagreement when it's people pointing out the scene is just corny.

>>212586297
Nah, his reaction was shock and then sadness as he says he will consider Jonathan his father. Meeting with Jor-El he even has a giggle when he says "And Kal-El, is my name?", he is both confused, curious and later inspired as Jor-El shows him his suit and symbol of El.

>>212584121 (OP)
Because every other country hates America because of what Trump has done

Man of Steel had a 56% share internationally from its worldwide gross. This movie having a smaller gross than that is absolutely hilarious despite the big marketing push
>studio made a show in the latino (LOL) borough here
>ask friend if she’ll see it
>’nah but good show anyway!’

>>212586448
the only thing people remember about these movies is that they mostly sucked. the dialogue people quote is meme shit like MARTHA, KAL-EL NO and STOP MY INVINCIBLE SON. the cultural impact they had was completely souring normies on superman and batman, nobody is talking about how great and memorable they are except oddballs like you.

>>212586568
Lmao where was the shock or any emotion? Stop sucking cavill dick for a sec

>>212586508
>people were posting screengrabs from the camrip
anon shills were doing it to promote the film

>>212586297
Amazing scene.

>>212586389
Legal? No.
But if you want to win academy awards you need 30% diversity or something like that

>>212586523
but bruh muh quips and muh soundtrack

>>212586523
Bro you would shit yourself if a 5/10 smiled in your general direction, you're not fooling anyone with your internet larping.

>>212586600
Nta but u need to go outside, people still think of cavill as superman and most people didn’t like him getting fired. Both BvS and Wonder woman grossed more than 800M worldwide

>>212584858
The first one literally ends on a similar shot
https://youtu.be/5n8bMuZGipU?t=46

Spiderman 2 also sneaks some American flags into the final shot
https://youtu.be/KkNxh5RDfv4?t=267

>>212584150
Exception that confirms the rule.For each success, there are literally 7-8 capeshit movies that either massively underperform or flop

>>212586650
Most people think of Christopher Reeve as Superman lmao. Cavil is only brought up as “ya he looked the part but his movies sucked” for anyone who isn’t a Snyder fanboy

>>212586648
>Bro you would shit yourself if a 5/10 smiled in your general direction
I wouldn't. I'm 8.5/10 myself, objectively, Chadlite-to-Chad, and I know my self-worth.
>you're not fooling anyone with your internet larping.
Whatever.

>>212584455
dinosaurs are not ip muttbrain

>>212586606
You don't need to act like a girl or a kid to show emotions. Being a functional adult is being subtle with your emotions, and not sperging like a teen.

>>212585467
>the last Spider-Man
>good movie
whoever thinks this shouldn't be allowed on the internet

>>212586698
>Most people think of Christopher Reeve as Superman lmao.
Not in the BRICS+ countries, my dude. Only in the Anglosphere and Europe (i.e. in the West) people think of Reeve when they think of Superman. But the West is rapidly becoming obsolete, so most people in the world believe Cavill is THE Superman, and it's very unlikely Gunn and Corenswet will make them change their minds.

>>212586698
>Most people
>Source: Trust me
And most people I know likes Henry more

>>212584854
noone has seen sloperman returns trannyfaggot

>>212586809
I guess he meant the live-action Spider-Man movie, the one with Tobey and Andrew, not the animated one.

>https://youtu.be/76GpM2OVbYo?si=53ix3unJaLvqXwxx
Such kino has never been surpassed

is so fucking weird people are tracking how much money this movie made in his first day. Like why would you give a shit? Internet points?

>>212586843
Only snyderjeets think that henry is a remotely good superman

>>212586828
> Not in the India, my dude
Ftfy, that goes without saying. They have horrid taste
>>212586843
Where you from?

>>212584933
>atleast let us shill till first weekend

>>212586117
>It reminds me of people praising the lame as shit Percy Jackson TV show simply because it was "Percy Jackson done right" compared to the 2010 movie
By the time season 1 ended the fanbase turned on the show and the author because as it turns out the movie just did it all around better.

>>212586897
>Burguers has pajeets living rent free in their heads

>>212586698
Maybe if theyre 70 but otherwise it’s Cavill and reception is muddled. Like i said, go outside

>superman is no more an american hero but a humanity hero
>fails everywhere outside usa
kwab

>>212586929
India is only 1/10 of the BRICS, my dude. People in Brasil, Russia, China, South Africa, Iran, Ethiopia, Egypt, Indonesia, the UAE, etc., also picture Cavill when they think of Superman. They just haven't grown up with Reeve, or even the Smallville guy, as Superman. Man of Steel was their first Superman movie.

>>212584578
Why does the date say October 7th?

>>212584121 (OP)
Because Americans are now bigger niggers than real Africans this point.

>>212586929
>Where you from?
Ironically anin, Hueland.

>>212586974
Often the opposite, it seems he became more of a international hero instead of a American hero

>>212584986
>China is particularly bad.
China is very protectionist now regarding its film industry. 4 years ago, in 2021, Xi said that he wanted to limit the amount of "American propaganda" in the media. Oh, and Ne Zha 2 is still playing in Chinese cinematographic theatres, Superman can't compete with it.

Is still marvel slop. (the same safe quippy comedy action)

Those movies are done.

>>212584121 (OP)
I, personally, have MCU humour fatigue and Gunn is MCU humour in its worst form. Also, Corenswet looks and sounds like a charisma black hole in the trailers. Maybe I'll torrent it.

>>212584150
Hugh Jackman's return as Wolverine.

>>212584986
>China is particularly bad.

You can thank Trump for that.

huh, I just came back from watching it. second biggest theater in one of Spain's biggest cities and it was decently full considering it was a 12pm showing on a weekday. even more impressive because it was on English with Spanish subs and most people watch the dubbed version here. picrel is for 8:15pm today, the English one too. Id say mine was a bit less full but almost looked like this. movie itself was just fine, I dont have a horse in this race, it was a fun couple hours but Ill forget it in a couple days.

>>212584986
So the cope now is going to be
>it did better in america than MoS!
LMAO, it didnt even make half of it in germany in its opening weekend

>>212587229
En madrid las salas llenas en la noche pero el sabado se ve feo
>ese marketing en carabanchel con todos los latinos
Kek

>>212587229
1/3 of the theater was empty for the premiere and this is good to you??

This movie is a striking example of placebo effect. Corenswet’s character isn’t far from Cavill’s because Cavill’s wasn’t really inaccurate to begin with. Superman is generally stoic with some sprinkles of idealism here and there. Both of them are/were in their early 30s going through an identity crisis while being sad. What makes Corenswet differ is he’s more angsty and prone to emotional outbursts. Both of them wear their heart on their sleeve and wish the world would just view them as simply a guy trying to do the right thing. Corenswet turns himself in to the government and Cavill goes to a congressional hearing.

600m

>>212587229
>but Ill forget it in a couple days
Damn, sorry about your dementia.

>>212586430
I have not interest in seeing this trash, but for the millionth time, Rachel Brosnahan is 100% not Jewish.

>>212587229
I have spanish dub only fuck

>>212586858
He's right, NWH was garbage

>>212584121 (OP)
How is the romance? All DC movies with romance focus to do well
>wonder woman
>aquaman
>the batman

>>212587342
it's 12pm on a weekday, people have jobs retard. I saw endgame opening week in the middle of the day and there was maybe a dozen people in the theatre, should I pretend that flopped?

>>212587406
>Rachel Brosnahan is 100% not Jewish.
She played Ms Masel, so she's honorary Jewish now. Just like Carice van Houten after Zwartboek.

>>212587454
I remember endgame was packed even at the early shows and people asking for a day off lol

>>212584121 (OP)
It has a 2 week timeframe and if it can’t muster up a good-great OW it’s probably not going far past that 500m mark WB wants.

>>212584121 (OP)
I liked it. My first superman movie ever, all heroes were great aside from the strange eagle woman, greetings from eu

>>212586269
#supershit

>>212587490
Great so my 450-500M prediction wasn’t off.

No one will speak of this movie in 10 years. It's a popcorn movie. Instantly forgettable.

>>212587413
aqui hasta donde yo se solo dos cines ofrecen vose, hoy he ido al cine "bueno" y en ese solo ponen en vose el slop de moda en ese momento pero solo para algunas peliculas y tienes que ir en las primeras dos semanas porque si no quitan esas sesiones. el otro cine es muy antiguo y las calidades son una mierda, pero al menos ahi ponen cosas mas raras
>>212587339
jej, la ultima vez que estuve en madrid parecia bogota. hoy unos latinos han llegado con la pelicula empezada y los tres con las linternas del movil hablando en voz alta porque no encontraban sus asientos. me compadezco, madridbro

>>212587490
It'll probably get past $500M but if it stalls at the $600M range it will have underperformed and no amount of coping will change that

MoS in 2013 made nearly $700M in 2013 money which is around $925M today

Anyone pretending that WB will be happy with that is deluded and will just encourage Zazzy to can shit outside of the Batman to help with his fire sale of WB

>>212587647
Right like how Batman Begins had great reception but failed to make 400m so WB didn't greenlight the sequel. They got positive reception and audience goodwill, what snyder destroyed

>>212587339
>>212587608
English website. Use normal human language here, not your latinx speak no single 100+ IQ person knows or understands.

>>212587757
t. Savannah hernandez

>>212587752
Expectations were different and the budget for batman begins wasnt fucking 500M

>>212587647
>MoS in 2013 made nearly $700M in 2013 money which is around $925M today
And yet MoS didn't get a sequel

>>212587752
>Right like how Batman Begins had great reception but failed to make 400m
$400m in 2005 is like $750m now. And in 2005, people just weren't interested in Batman, all the hype was around Spider-Man and the X-Men at that time.

>>212584121 (OP)
>extremely American superhero
what do you expect? no one cares about muh american way, especially these days

>>212584121 (OP)
Because it's an awful movie only dumb mutts would watch it

>>212587757
>Diz ter mais de +100QI
>Sabe só uma língua
Microcefalico

>>212587835
>And yet MoS didn't get a sequel
Huh?

>>212587752
DVD sales saved Begins.

>>212587829
What 500m budget?
>>212587840
We are talking about NOW too retard. Batman came from a huge critically panned movie, Superman comes from a dead franchise

My guesstimate would be like 520ish. A decent opening weekend but no amount of WOM is going to turn it into Aquaman. The marketing wasn’t good and the movie itself isn’t spectacular. Reddit will blame Snyder and brand rebuilding but it’s not like The Batman had this problem. Superman is meh, and again, the movie is meh. WSJ posted an article today saying Zaslav/WB moved the adequacy threshold to 500m from the previous 700m given the good reception. But it’s also of question of how much of their own shit are they eating? This is perhaps one of the most biased movies ever as there’s a large online base that wants it to succeed but evidently that isn’t translating to normies especially international. Supergirl and so on can easily get passed on.

>>212585467
>only bad movie fatigue.
but No Way Home and GOTG 3 are bad movies

>>212587867
It had a 150m budget without marketing and made slightly above 200m domestically.

>>212587884
>Budget is 360M according to Ohio tax filing
>marketing at 200M
Now no one buys dvds so it has to do TDK numbers which is hard given the competition and the crucial second weekend for DC properties

>>212584121 (OP)
Because Superman isn't interesting and never has been. It's a story that's been done over and over and over again and the Christopher Reeve version has never been surpassed. They've tried to redo it so many times now that no-one is even remotely interested in seeing it.

>>212587355
>Corenswet turns himself in to the government and Cavill goes to a congressional hearing.
Cavill also gives himself in, but he is more respected. Man, Henry was always treated with respect even on day 1, David gets stepped on like a nigger even tho he has been Superman for 3 years.

>>212587962
David turn himself in to save his dog not to do anything dramatic

>>212587962
The context in man of steel was different though. In BvS they are going through a parallel journey.

>>212587927
Honestly, Reeve is a once in a lifetime 10/10 casting, maybe Patrick Stewart as Professor X comes close and that's about it

>>212587752
>Right like how Batman Begins
You're delusional if you think WB are looking for a $600M Superman movie in 2025 retard

Inflation has come a long way since Batman Begins and even Man of Steel not to mention Begins and to a lesser extent MoS had DVD sales to fall back on which doesn't exist anymore

I know you're probably underage but back in the day a movie could do meh at the box office and be salvaged by Home media sales which is what helped Begins get a sequel since it's estimated to have made $217 M

https://variety.com/2006/film/news/wb-mulls-superman-redux-1200342128/

Hey lets do a little math and combine those two then adjust for inflation
For Box office we have $617,910,706 and DVD sales were around $357,183,333.33 add those together and you get.... $975,094,039.94 or just under $1B in todays money

Eat shit Zoomer

>>212587993
Not very different, even the kryptonians treated him with respect when he arrived in their ship.

>>212587997
Point stands, people treats David like he was a push over and he acts like a young adult or a teen. I think that bothered me the most, he didn't had a commanding presence or a sense of respect.

>>212584150
Pure comedy movies are barely made by big studios anymore, so Deadpool 3 had the advantage of being a rare comedy instead of just another superhero movie.

>>212588100
His cousin supergirl also nags him or something right? I couldn’t hear shit but her body language was aggressive

>superman spends most of the movie losing and geting manhandled

the movie is just bad

>>212584158
>>212584168
Nolan never made a Superman movie? Wtf are you people talking about?

>>212588155
>>212588204
Total brainrot

>>212584121 (OP)
The character wears a giant red diaper, like a fat grandma's underpants
Humiliation ritual fatigue

>>212587884
>Batman came from a huge critically panned movie, Superman comes from a dead franchise
Batman Begins was released at a time when people were still emotionally invested in superheroes, cool fight scenes, and CGI, when people were still buying comics and Wizard magazine and were excited when they heard about their favorite character getting some onscreen representation. Superman comes out after 25+ years of nonstop slop starting with Blade and the Marvelization of culture in general, when everyone is tired of capeshi People don't see this movie as bad; they're just tired of this genre and want something new, like a Minecraft movie, Top Gun: Maverick, or anything else. It's not about Superman or DC being dead franchises, it's about superheroes and comic books being dead genres.

>>212588155
I think she kind of does, she pretty much brushes off his comments. From her part is undestadable, but he just stands there with a look of tire.

I think that's what bothered so much in this movie, is how Superman acts like a Superboy. His speech to Luthor, while is something Superman would say, isn't delivered they way he would say, Henry and Christopher is how I imagine he would deliver, firm but true.

>>212588260
Nolan came up with the idea and story

>>212588263
good morning saaar please do not redeem reply

>>212588267
Emotionally invested, the 90's era batman movies ran the character and genre into the ground

>>212588204
>They literally tell you in the first minute that Hammer of Boravia was his first defeat in 3 years
>Ultraman was Luthor master plan to defeat him and he studied every move of him and have a whole team prepared for that
>The moment the Luthor cams go off Superman kicks Ultraman ass with ease

>>212585271
>Georgescu
>Ceausescu
the fuck is this?

>>212588360
Why are you copy pasting arguments across multiple threads?
WBShills are getting more and more pathetic each year

>>212588354
>the 90's era batman movies ran the character and genre into the ground
No, they didn't, only B&R was a bad movie, both Returns and Forever were commercial and public successes.

>>212588354
>90's era batman movies ran the character and genre into the ground
It was literally one movie that did that: Batman & Robin.

I like this as like a higher budget HBO Max project but it doesn’t posses the necessary cinekino to wield a cinematic universe. As a movie it’s okay but as a show it’d be fantastic.

>>212587511
Was the whole monkeys thing real?

>>212588457
Beat me to it

>>212588451
What? No one can call you out when you're straight up lying?

Superman always will and always has been boring and cringe. Most people look at that god awful diaper suit he's wearing and think, "I don't wanna look at that stupid fucking suit for 2 hours, fuck that" even fuckin 90s tv superman looked better.

>>212588535
>Superman always will and always has been boring and cringe.
No.

>>212588335
Were you the guy so buckbroken by never getting laid that a you took "aggressive body language" on a girl as a personal attack or the guy whining about a superhero overcoming the odds to win in the end?

>>212588614
My man stop projecting lmao, we are talking about how supes gets disrespected in this movie. The fact you made it sexual means you’re not getting any action whatsoever

He should get a different director for the next one or at least a different writer. Gunn’s formula is concerning. He always includes an animal and some type of daddy issues. Is it going to be like this for every movie he’s involved in?

>>212588937
Sorry but then he can't cast his brother, wife and friends as half the characters

>>212584172
>India and Pakistan
Actually it wont, it's already tracking badly there

From a whitoid country
Not very full at 6pm on a saturday

Small town but we get lots of tourists and when Spiderman No Way Home came out it was fucking packed in all screenings

Can see this flopping overseas

>>212584150
Hugh Jackman finally becoming a proper Wolverine was enough to draw everyone

>>212589249
>when Spiderman No Way Home came out it was fucking packed in all screenings
Spider-Man is the most popular superhero of all time, and Superman is only known in America and its satellites. Plus, everyone was excited to see Tobey again.

>>212584121 (OP)
It’s flopping, BIGLY! will struggle to break 500m. This is why you don’t talk about WOKE shit before you release your big blockbuster franchise restart.

>friend saw it last night
>plot is literally Russia invades Gaza

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Why is DC such a failure ? Marvel is also flopping today but they had some big hits. DC has nothing

>>212584986
good we should stop counting chinks anyway, they have awful taste
just go back to counting domestic, no one gave a shit about worldwide before chinks started pretending to be human

Why are there so many tards on /tv/?

>>212589826
That includes you since the OP says INTERNATIONALLY

>>212584554
that's the biggest one in india

>>212589826
>internationally
>as in not domestically
Why are you such a retard, anon?

>>212588451
>>212588508
>ignores and deflects from what he actually posts
I wasn't under the impression that this movie was being shilled here until just now, anon has a point.

>>212589811
t. Jeet

>>212589826
>[Superlative] in [niche qualifier]
Oh dear. It appears Superman is not doing that well. If it was as good as is marketed, it'd be the top grossing in over a decade or longer. Grim.

>>212589857
>>212589938
>it will be bad
>it debuts with excellent critics and audience score on tomatoes
>well, it will flop!
>it opens strong domestically
>fuck, it will flop internationally!
You're so pathetic, snyderjeets.

>>212585102
Eh, I'm not overly invested in DC in general but I understand not wanting the shit you like to get discontinued. Will they try again? Most likely. But it might take a while (8 years between Batman and Robin and Batman Begins) and even if they do it'll be starting over again with no consistency.

Fans don't want every iteration of these things to be a one-off. If we only ever got the first film in a series before they gave up and rebooted we'd have never got Superman II or Batman Returns or The Dark Knight or any of the better X-Men movies

>>212590074
Internationally, it's the thread title, you fucking dimwit, jeet.

>>212590074
Screenshotting this

>>212590074
Nigga i predicted a bigger domestic gross and ‘decent’ critical reception. I always said itd be a 450-500M movie due to superman being low internationally. Now let the crying commence. It will be funny seeing you cope summerfag

>>212586698
>Most people think of Christopher Reeve as Superman lmao.
I think of Routh, really. He was perfect, sadly his movie sucked.

>>212585483
>it's like this comic movie is made for children

ITT Marvel shills in copium mode

>>212586698
>Most people think of Christopher Reeve as Superman
I and many of my former classmates think of Tom Welling as Supes.

>>212590074
This thread is literally about it's international box office, you dumbass.

>>212590122
>>212590130
>>212590208
SAAAAAAAAAAR

>>212589718
Marvel started with a B tier hero in Ironman and built from there. DC keeps trying to start with Superman and falling flat on their face.

>>212590257
>falling flat on their face.
Where is the failure tho?

>>212590227
>Why is it dead internationally
>retard posts a screenshot from domestic previews
>hahaha saaaaar

Supaahman is an American icon and Europe has Amerifat fatigue

>>212590130
I predict the $600 million worldwide box office but even I didn't expect such dismal international results. The bottom can fall out.

>>212590257
Failed with Justice league and Batman v Superman too.

I WANT ALL COCKS!!!!!

>>212590314
It’s flopping Gunn chud

>>212585855
this is some prime schizo logic

>>212584121 (OP)
it made 7 dollars