Thread 212586407

Friends of Garak edition. Discuss why Garak is best black operative. Hard mode: no Garashir shipping, he uses sex as a tool and nothing more
Previously: >>212535892

>>212586407 (OP)
Garak is probably the only reason why Cardassia wasn't bodied by the Klingons and Romulans. RIP Romulan Ambassador.

i love Weyoun

>>212586456
Weyoun is the Dominion Garak, he gets a pass. Garak isn't afraid to do his own wetwork, but Weyoun won't.

>>212586492
erm, no. They are nothing alike. Nothing at all.

threadly reminder that shatner thinks geezer trekkers have no life

threadly reminder that seething about "AI slop" means you hate version 0 of the holodeck, and are therefore not a real trek fan at all

I am a friend of Damar.

>>212586598
This is what Jellico took away from.us.

jellico is a gay man
cheers xxx

>>212586738
Troi could sense the sexual tension

>>212586598
it is telling the only writer consistently mentioned on trek is shakespeare

>>212587939
Have you read it in the original Klingon?

>>212586598
Greek whore

its a little too quiet today morning

>>212588158
Yes.

>>212589092
kino

>>212589035
the tranny was mass reported and banned, we can assume until sunday or he resets his router.

Deanna, I appreciate a certain formality on the bridge. I'd appreciate it if you didn't dress like a gutterslut from now on.

need new trek vidya

>>212589667
how about instead go to actual space or go flying? Shat did it at 93.

>>212589902
too scary

>>212589400
>reg kino
Based

my body your trek

>>212590176
Mental illness is cured by the 24th century.

>>212590176
>the lank, thinning hair
>the scar on the neck
>sleeves to cover scars of various past suicide attempts
>fag merch everywhere, letting you know it's 100% of his personality
And of course, only TNG merch visible.

all y'all said voyager was bad, but ive been really enjoying the show so far. keeps the vision and format of what star trek should be really well imho. i'm only two season in tho, when does it get bad??

>>212590682
I like Voyager and I think a lot of other people here do too.

>>212589667
Yeah, me too

>>212590682
>when does it get bad
Periodically when it's a chakotay episode

>>212589667
I'm so close

>>212589400
>the chute
what did they do with the corpses?

>>212590682
it never gets bad but it nevet gets better either.

>>212591599
Nailed it

>>212590724
Of course the faggot who leaves his trip on would love the TNG you get from Wish, the Temu Lost in Space, the Battlestar Galactica who got the yips on game day. They say you are what you eat, and your awful taste must be from all the unwashed dicks you've gargled in your sad pathetic life.

>>212591599
>>212592807
Not true, I think it gets better multiple times. S2 is better than S1, S3 is an improvement, and S4 sets the tone for the rest of the show. It levels off there but the quality is decently high at that point, just inconsistent.

>>212592848
I put the trip back on specifically because the Nu Trek trannies were blaming their spamming on me, revealing that for whatever reason, I make them seethe. I'm sorry if it also bothers "normal posters" like yourself, assuming you're not one of them. But if that is the case, you can filter my tripcode in like 2 clicks on 4chanX. Dropdown menu beside my post > Filter > Tripcode

>>212592861
To me, S3 is the worst season. The departure of Michael Piller is deeply felt, as well as the loss of the Kazon and Vidiians as villains - whether you're a fan of them or not, S3 has no recurring enemy/race which makes it feel aimless and lacking purpose.

>>212593057
I absolutely hated the Kazon. I think they're Wish.com Klingons but even more retarded and way less of a credible threat. The whole storyline with Chakotay's baby was laughable, hated everything about it. The Vidiians on the other hand were super cool and they should've never stopped using them.

But S3 just starts to have more memorable episodes.
>Flashback
>Meld
>The Chute
>Q kino
>Future's End
>leads up to Seven in the finale
There are some stinkers in there for sure but all in all, it's more consistently good than S2. I could see how you would disagree if you're a Kazon enjoyer.

>>212591089
Tholian levels are easier than the klingon schmups or god forbid the romulan levels

>>212590682
As a voyager hater I will say that while it is still Trek, it is comparatively weaker to that of TNG and DS9. A lot of my problems stem from the characters. Chakotay, Tuvok, B’ellana, Harry, Tom, they’ve all been done better on other shows. They’re bland characters with a cast you can tell is not having as much fun as the other shows. Neelix is not a funny comic relief character, he’s a grating and annoying comic relief character shoehorned into scenes he doesn’t belong in. (I like the doctor and 7)
Voyager also wastes its premise in my opinion. They skirt around a lot of the issues they would actually have to face if they were in that situation and the show ends up just being another planet of the week type deal. I could forgive a lot of Voyagers transgressions though if it weren’t so hit or miss in its writing.

>>212593196
The Kazon aren't Klingons, though. They're more comparable to street gangs. I don't think they're the greatest race ever but I do like Initiations, the one where Nog (as a Kazon) explains to Chakotay why they're the way they are.

>>212593196
Sorry, Meld's a season 2 episode, isn't it? always get that wrong.

>race of religious fanatics genocide themselves

you absolutely love to see it.

>>212593057
S3 is also when the writers start to forget that there's 150 people on the ship who aren't just the ones in the opening credits

>>212593352
>kazon are not klingon
That's how I'd describe them, those "not klingon" klingons

>>212590176
dude your 55

>>212593477
Cabbage heads

>>212593477
why did VOY feel comfortable making this ultra realistic of American blacks, wth the same hair and everything?

Just six days until Trek returns with an all new season of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.

>>212593477
I'd describe them as fucking idiots

I want to drink at Quarks

>Mr. Worf
>fire

>>212596330
Probably the best cliffhanger in TV history

>>212596355
8 yr old me and my mom were convinced Riker was going to take over the captains chair moving forward

>>212596355
and following it up with a fantastic conclusion

>>212596441
"Family" after best of both worlds part 2 is the comfiest trek episode IMO

>Garak and mention of Garashir in the OP
>transexual posting
>complaining about tripfags
Jesus H Christ if you missed me so much you should have just came to /m/ and got me.

>>212596355
>>212596399
That's because it was a true cliffhanger. Contract negotiations with Patrick Stewart were ongoing. There was a chance he would not return.

>>212596732
<3 we missed u

>>212596746
I did not know that when I was 8 anon

>Conservatives have been harping for years about TV bias, the open flouting of the FCC rules, but Carr is the first to take it seriously. He intends to make CBS his test case as the Skydance-Paramount deal seeks his agency’s blessing.
https://nypost.com/2025/07/11/media/why-fcc-chair-will-continue-to-throttle-paramount-skydance-merger-despite-trump-settlement/

>>212586668
vulcan girls are so hot bros

>>212586668
looks like t'lyn crossed with ma'jel

>>212588440
one of the reasons to watch star trek is to see fabulous babes in sci-fi settings

>>212597469
and also Marina Sirtis, apparently

>>212590310
but not autism, apparently

>>212597469
this is why you buy the blu ray set

>>212586407 (OP)
Because he has the ability to effectively operate and manipulate despite literally everyone knowing he's a spy, he's just that good at it

>>212598165
Doesn't hurt that he's surrounded by fellow degenerates. Even if they're technically the "good guys"

>>212598165
>bajorans dont like him
>feds dont like him
garak would have been kicked off the station immediately. failed premise. failed character.

>>212598392
what are these reflections doing

>>212598893
No because Sisko likes him

>>212590682
Tuvix deserved what he got for being the worst parts of the two most insufferable characters

>>212598392
this is...wrong

>>212597073
Death to Paramount!

>>212598093
Nice

>>212598893
And yet he wasn't kicked off despite everyone hating him, like I said he's just that good at playing the game

>>212599358
nobody hated him

So recently rewatched season one TNG and it was a lot better than I remember. Just a few odd episodes but very comfy overall.

>>212599473
holy shit bashirfaggot is gerard way

>>212599910
If a season doesn't have a single S tier episode, I can't really rate it

>>212599910
early eps are great especially for the lighting and music

>>212597551
"high functioning" autism and aspergers are not illnesses, they are enhancements. the next step in evolution, the current apes are just not ready to accept an individual who is skilled. its not like barclay was fucking rainman or simple jack, he was just better than most his peers, but less skill and experience in social interactions, which could obviously stem from his holodeck addiction and the dissociation with reality. fleeing from it if you will. you see the buzzphrase "emotional intelligence" thrown around a lot recently, which is just a brainlet cope when they cant understand higher beings like my main man broccoli.

>>212599817
all bajorans hated all cardis at the begining of the series and there was no reason for them to accomodate garak. also garak never fooled anyone or picked up any information that people didnt want him to have because he was so bad at being a spy literally everyone knew he was a spy.
>garak, come measure me for a suit while so i can betray the klingons.
ds9 fucking sucks.
of course all of the series have similar problems but only ds9 sucks because only ds9 takes itself seriously

>>212600094
Code of Honor is an S tier episode

>>212600101
>downplaying the importance of what people call "emotional intelligence"
That term might be stupid but until there is some machine interface that unites us all like the Borg, we'll continue to rely on social interactions and interpersonal interpretation which is a science all its own.

>>212598392
hey algorythm-andy, your containment boards are this way: >>>/trash/ >>>/g/

>>212600094
How was this not S tier?

>>212600212
>but until there is some machine interface that unites us all like the Borg,
Bite your tongue.

>>212600234
also >>>/piss/

>>212600190
>>212600250
Code of Honor isn't S tier, it's N tier.

Is SNW tonight or tomorrow? I ain't trying to start beef, I just like the show.

>>212600133
oh...it's you

>>212600284
It's not N tier, it's I tier

>>212600212
its not a science, its actually not even a skill, its a ruleset given by the society and elite you live in. following rules doesnt make you smart, just obedient.

>>212599910
I dig the s1 atmosphere. Things feel weirder and more alien then in later seasons

>>212595855
How does that make them distinct from klingons?

>>212600503
it's literally just pattern recognition but applied to humans. autistics are subhuman so they struggle with it.

>>212600133
He was an excellent spy, he had access to everyone on the station and even gained their trust and friendship despite everyone knowing he was a spy

>>212596330
What's your favorite "fire" line in trek

>>212600503
>>212600608
It's pattern recognition coupled with a desire to put other people at ease, an acknowledgment that if you treat others decently they are more likely to treat you the same way, and that a person's comfort affects their general productivity.

A lot of autists can recognize patterns -- they just have a complete disregard for the comfort of others.

>>212600702
you're only half right. if you recognize the pattern you can use it to your advantage to navigate situations to your own comfort and advantage. It's not about a "disregard" for other people's comfort. autistics can't even do it to help themselves. they just can't do it period. they're retarded.

>>212600250
Based, people shit on encounter at far point to, but I think it's great. What's a groppler btw, and how do I become one

>>212600783
Yeah, maybe you're right. I guess the ones who can recognize it and just can't relate are sociopaths more than autists. Then again, you can definitely be both, and a lot of people's autism renders them sociopathic.

>>212600133
being an obvious spy is ezmode spying, they all see him being obvious all the time and then assume when they dont see him he must not be spying

>>212600850
Right here

>>212586407 (OP)
I noticed that with season 4, Kira had a tighter jumpsuit. just a little bit.

>>212600101
Sperg cope. You're actually a tard, not a superhuman.

>>212600892
how could anyone NOT notice?

>Kim beds ANOTHER girl
How does he do it!

>>212600284
>Jerry curl geordi
Outside of the furniture stains it wouldnt have mattered. From redshirt to Lt Commander, Geordi was my self insert.

>>212599237
i'm sure they're shivering

>>212600865
Plus being a spy is more than just stealing secrets, it's about influence, gaining it and using it which garak succeeded in

>>212601064
not pictured: paramount shooting themselves in the head while ignoring gnats

>>212600522
was honestly surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Felt less formulaic than the other seasons, not that the rest of TNG is bad by any means. Also really liked the Picard does a period piece on the holodeck episodes which I used to hate as a kid.

>>212600892
she has the squarest shoulders i've ever seen on an actress, yet hers are so narrow. every scene look at her shoulders compared to even male actors. i can't think of another actress that never shows a downward angle in her shoulder posture. it always stuck out to me

god damned pluto kikes wont let me watch startrek without an account

>>212601124
Inability to appreciate season 1 is a filter for the rest of the series.

>>212601158
she bony everywhere but the ass

>>212601171
rig an antenna >>212589400

>>212600338
>>212600660
>>212600865
not a single attempt to explain why the bajorans didnt kick his spoonhead off the station on day 1.

>>212601266
it may come to that. requiring accounts is the first step to making it a pay service.

>>212601275
evidence of his invisible connections at work

>>212586407 (OP)

https://youtu.be/ClP8n6asn3w?si=TCKOYqn9U_mnGk9S

!!!FACT!!!

>>212601158
Gotta be honest in terms of coom material ds9 is seriously lacking, Kira just doesn't do it for me and jadzia was just ok, they really don't get a good one till ezri but doesn't compare to 7 of 9 or t'pol or Deanna

>>212601318
its getting harder to make fake accounts these days. back in the day you just made an email address and it worked, these days if you don't give them a phone number and access to your gps you can't even register. tuta.com, its a free email that will let you sign up for stuff but won't randomly disappear after 2 days because you didn't upload your fingerprints

>>212601275
1) he was a damn good tailor and they had no other options
2) it was well known he was banished from Cardassia for ignoring orders
3) He had been on the station for quite some time before the Cardies withdrew based on his comments throughout the series
4) The Federation was running DS9 not the Bajorans so they had final say, and almost assuredly would not have rejected Garak claiming asylum
5) With the wormhole and all the ongoing shenanigans with rebuilding one single Cardassian who by all accounts gets along with everyone publicly is low priority

>>212601275
What this anon says >>212601335 he used his connections within the Federation to secure his spot on the station, maybe even connections within the bajorian resistance/government itself

>>212601469

OOPS, wrong vid.....

https://youtu.be/aiEGcTuMgow?si=H1N_ZRJQ3mGb9YKe

!!!FACT!!!

>>212601476
i can't see troi as sexy. she has some sexy scenes, i get it. i liked early-season crusher when her hair was redder. but even she wasn't sexy, not compared to what trek's definition of sexy was already set at. seven seems like the first obvious example of adding some sex-appeal to a main character since the original mini-dresses

>>212601688
You get what I mean though, ds9 was seriously lacking in that department, Deanna is not everyone's cup of tea myself included but there was still something there with the cleavage and Beverly too, but ds9 just has really nothing going on in that regard

>>212601586
the only one who said he was a good tailor was garak
bajorans dont give a fuck if he cant go back to cardassia
dukat and dozens of cardis were on the station for years and they werent allowed to stay
the feds are in charge to keep the cardis from coming back. bajor has final say over everything, like when they let quark sell weapons. and garak never claimed asylum, would be an acceptable explanation otherwise
bajorans would kill random cardis for no reason (Duet)
i will give you credit for trying. it was a solid effort, better than what the ds9 writers did

>>212601927
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded

I grew up with Voyager
I want to go back and watch it
It is going to actually suck?

Everytime I tthink about it I understand Janeway is just a raging alcoholic, Tuvok is essentially an incel, Harry is a repressed faggot, Tom has mommy issues, Torres is the only normal person, Doctor was just a stand in for 'we need something funny to happen and point out the retardation' and Chakotay, I've no idea what the fuck he was

No mention of Neelix since he was based and Naomi is his actual daughter

kira is the hottest best girl in all of star trek so no i actually don't get what you mean

>>212600087
Fuck you.

Also my Nick Mullen holoprogram that I use exclusively for pegging went AWOL.

>>212601861
like everything else in ds9 the best sexiness came from tieriary characters and guests.

>>212601861
>ds9
you can tell they were bad at this because every dax ep is falls in love, oh no. but sex! and it even drags into when they pair her with worf

>but there was still something there with the cleavage
she's boobs out, no one is complaining about that part

Garak staying on the station is whatever. what i never understood is how in the everloving fuck Sisko allowed Jem'Hadar on the station. and not just Weyoun's couple body guards, they were just allowed free rein to walk around as if they were people and not sentient killing machines.

>>212601964
youll love it even more because you get it.
except tom has daddy issues

>>212602074
bait

>>212602069
im not a kira fan but i love the zero fitness skinny aesthetic from the 90s

>>212602112
I always thought it was the opposite with Tom
Like yeah, he had issues with his dad but I thought it was that he blamed it on his mom not being there to stand up for him?

He always came across as just desperately needing any woman's approval

>BF runs /m/
>VF runs /toy/
>I'm still here in /trek/

When did you realize you're traveling at Warp 0?

>>212601476
Dabo girls
Holosuite girls
that one quark webm

>>212602191
tom never had any underlying issues. he was a dude given a roster of issues to pretend to have. his arc with b'elanna was much better than his shit writing for what he was doing before voyager. that ep where they're made workers, yet he's still instinctively driven toward her is great character development

>>212600683
>fire at will
nemesis

>>212602193
2017 when nutrek started.

>>212602018
Oh I agree, ds9 is my favourite trek, basically the only one I really like, just lacking in that one department

>>212602246
Yeah but they were just background, not actual regular characters

>>212602285
I thought the only reason they put them together was because they were trying to do the odd couple thing with Dax/Worf but it fell apart since Tom is a bitch who can't stand up for himself

>>212602337
I don't think I like a single thing about Nemesis, definitely my least favorite Trek movie.

>>212602438
>>212602285
tom paris is the cool guy that breaks rules and thats only possible on VOY specifically because he is invulnerable to any nagging woman like the captain or his wife.

>>212601861
Dabo girls

>>212602438
he was supposed to get kes but she was fired for being a junkie

>>212602532
I find it's the opposite - he specifically craves the nagging and controlling women. Hence why he warmed up so much to Janeway as opposed to anyone else except Torres

>>212602566
I could see that but only if it was Neelix/Torres. Mostly since Torres was the only one who didn't seem like a complete cunt to him

>>212602620
janeway is the one craving mommy stuff, thats why she adopts neelix and tom and always shits on kim because he's the worst son.

>>212602677
It's funny since they openly admitted to trying to make Janeway into a action chick like Buffy or Xena but had to balance it out with the fact she's a woman so she must be motherly

But I mean mommy issues as in craves female authority, care and love. Janeway just switches from 'I love you to' to 'fuck you go get me some beer/coffee' depending on her mood

>>212602505
i liked the part where data died because picard selfishly played hero again.
data could have beamed over there, ripped shinzons head off and beamed back in under 10 seconds

>>212595631
They already had klingons
>>212601124
It's a matter of taste. I like seasons 1-3 were things feel very experimental, some people like 4-7 where characters are more developed and the setting is more refined. Do you like early X bands experimental stuff or do you like their later more cohesive albums. Do you like the throw shit at the wall NES library or do you like SNES's refined but samey 2D library? I usually favor the experimental stuff.

>>212601158
She looks too much like my mom for me to be into her, same with Ro for that matter. Maybe my mom is bajoran

>>212602505
Insurrection may as well not exist, Nemesis played straight out is basically a long B+ TNG episode, hits all the right things. It just has a stupid ending and a pointless buggy chase scene.

I remember watching the one with Tom Hardy when I was like 12
I had no fucking clue he was meant to be a clone of Picard until it was said
I honestly thought he was just meant to be an Albino Romulan and was considered special at first

>>212602950
>Nemesis is a b+ tng adventure
You're a generous grader lol.

>>212603109
easily could replace the spock 2 parter

>>212602950
Outside of the retarded finale insurrection is a great TNG mystery ep.

>>212603233
>any tng movie over any tng 2 parter
Illogical
Tng 2 parters are better than any tng movie anon.

>>212603352
First Contact gave me a drunk Deanna and she passed out

At the point I realized drunk women make easy prey
Never had that in the tv shows

>>212603030
But he was bald anon. Picard is bald. That's how you were supposed to know

>>212602505
I liked nemesis the most of the TNG films. Data dying although not a great scene in hindsight still moved me the first time I saw it.

>>212602950
Insurrection to me is more like a TNG two parter than any of the other movies. Nemesis isn't exactly like Nu Trek but it's more like Abrams Trek or something, just everyone is super flanderized and the characters aren't really acting like themselves anymore.

>>212603400
I remember asking on the internet and fucking getting sperged on
And I was like 'but the guy has fat lips and big eyes and looks nothing like Picard' and explaining when we saw young Picard in TNG he looked nothing like Shinzon and got torn into by like 50 year old faggots
possibly in a sexual way who knows

>>212603380
Fair enough, fiest contact has the good borg battle. The whole thing would have been salvageable if instead of revenge driven psycho picard he just calmly gave instructions on how to beat back the borg on the Enterprise E

>>212603352
im saying the nemesis story would fit the tng 2 part model fine.

>>212603452
i cant believe i have to defend nemesis. the audience wasnt supposed to know shinzon is a clone until he explains it. he also explains that he looks different because the romulans beat the hell out of him for 20 years

>>212603458
I think First Contact was actually okay. The problem was they had to pad it out with the whole Lily thing and doing a Die Hard but we already did it before

Still, generations was arguably the worst fucking shit I've ever seen. Insurrection wasn't too bad
Nemesis was weird as fuck like they literally went 'well, we're killing off TNG so let's see what fun we can have'

>>212603452
>how will the audience know it's picard of he doesn't have a shaved head when he's 22

>>212603473
Except for all the bad characterizations of picard sure. All of the movies could have been two parters if they fixed the retarded characterization and plot holes

>>212603671
this was a mistake. not sure what they were thinking

>>212603567
I'm not complaining at all
I'm just pointing out that I felt like a retard since apparently spergs knew it before I did

>>212603671
>this is you, as a perfect clone, if you were a retard and had down's

i think i may have never seen nemesis at all

>>212603787
its better than insurrection, worse than first contact

>>212603458
First contact was the best TNG movie

>>212603958
i dont understand? insurrection is better than first contact.

>>212603458
He's acting that way cause he's traumatized by his experience being part of the Borg, it's a perfectly acceptable characterisation

>>212603739
>how will they know it's young picard if he isn't bald

>>212604083
Not it's not, he got over it to the point where he had the opportunity to erradicate the borg and he thought better of it. It was a step backward for his character. It was a stupid choice, it would have been much better to show him calmly dismantling them instead of "'picard gets revenge for the week he was a borg"

>>212603968
Damning with faint praise. If I cherry pick there are nice things about each tng movie, but they're overall terrible.

>>212604277
He got over his fear of Borg in general but he was hesitant to even do shit against them at the start of the movie

He's got a death wish and knows that it's a suicide mission to try to take back the Enterprise but he does it anyway since his option is either 'stop the borg and some of us can die' or 'don't do anything and never exist'

>>212600824
Venusian aikido is a groppling martial art.

>>212604277
>It was a step backward for his character
And that's what trauma does, sometimes you think you're over it and fine but then a stressful situation triggers it and you start acting irrationally

Out here defending nemesis is wild. It’s the worst of the classic trek movies. A dumb stupid action movie that bombed big time. Also I hate fat movie data. Brent spiner gains weight and it takes me out of it.

>>212601476
The only reason to watch enterprise

>>212604448
>suicide mission
>everyone survives
worf was a coward the enterprise was not lost.
but really its all whoopies fault for not being available to play magic negro and talk picard into fighting because unlike lily she actually knows what shes talking about

>>212586598
>>212586611
AI slop is gay. real OC/pictures are always better

I would post about Star Trek more but I am on an Indian IP address and posting about Superman.

>>212601476
>in terms of coom material ds9 is seriously lacking
No, they only have Kira, both Daxes, Leeta and her massive milkers, some other dabo girls, that Bajoran mechanics from season 1, the Cardassian chick that wanted to fuck O'Brien...

Best jerking material is clearly from TNG
Between Rascals and Disaster

>>212604596
I like parts of it. But yeah it does feel like everyone involved had given up. The actors, the writers, the people in charge. They were clearly not into it but the fine print said they had to make one more movie. Tom Hardy is good in it though.

>>212604882
From 1987-1994,96, 98, 02. 15 years. It’s a long time. The franchise was fatigued. At least the TOS cast got a break in between the series and movies. Undiscovered Country is a much nicer “Bowing out” movie. The TNG movies never really knew what they wanted to be, but they just kept pushing it and as such they went out on a dud.

>>212605273
still better than beyond and darkness.

>>212605359
Absolutely. Abram’s trek is a whole different beast

I wonder what is mentalcrash up to these days.

>>212586668
more

>>212604689
Bro's are hard nips logical?

>>212605273
>during its hayday, it fatigued

bait

>>212598962
when you have two mirrors in that configuration, the nested reflections become distorted because of imperfections in the mirrors.

>>212605437
TNG in specific. Not Trek as a whole.

>>212602014
Cool story bro, we getting a new season of Umbrella Academy or what?

>>212602193
Your boyfriend runs /m/?

>>212605462
in case you aren't baiting, its an ai video and if you look in the mirrors, they eventually lose their clothes

>>212602337
>another tng movie fanon
Wow I am out voted today lol

>>212600683
for me its fire hazard

>>212604596
Fat Riker and Data makes no fucking sense in universe and they should have both gotten in shape before filming. The TOS movies made sense because it only got popular in syndication. TNG was always popular and had too many episodes as it was. A movie saga on top of 7 seasons and 176 episodes is just gluttony. So maybe the actors getting fat made sense after all…

>>212606254
the problem is they didnt make fat data a joke
>i programed some wieght gain and aging to make my friends more comfortble
riker getting fat is fine. people get fat. scotty and uhura and kirk got fat

>>212606408
Or it could have even been a callback to him trying on different hairstyles and facial hair in S1 TNG.
>Many humans, once they reach middle age, do something called “Letting themselves go”, Captain. I too wanted to “let myself go” to simulate the experience/

>>212606538
I would’ve been much happier if they had done something like that, but them all trying to play it off like the android didn’t get fat always bugged me.

>>212605822
i mean i could throw this at you but the whole of balance of terror is my favorite everything.

my word Archer is so fucking DUMB on behalf of the human race. I can't believe he KEEPS falling for it every time. how many times do you have to be FUCKED by ALIENS before you at the very least think twice before letting them do whatever they ask? or maybe I'm just too smart for this show. I dunno. i figured out the Andorians were there for the weapon as soon as they showed up because their story for being in the Expanse made goddamn sense whatsoever. they didn't even try to come with something believable but they didn't even need to because Archer didn't even question it! No one did! my god. The cherry on top is that he didn't figure it out until he was already on their ship once again in a position to be kidnapped. I think Earth is doomed.

>>212606600
not even the whole human race, the crew complains most times. malcolm is always right.

>>212606600
The thing I like the least about Archer is how incompetent he is portrayed all the time versus how hard he comes down on the crew when they fuck up, just completely ignoring the fact that he is always ending up in the middle of a shit pile himself

>>212606664
So a typical O6

>>212606664
Picard fucked up plenty when he first started (Waking up Lore, getting Tasha murdered, Surrendering at Farpoint like the fucking Frenchman that he was). But that means you got to watch him grow and learn from his missteps.

>>212606664
he read a
>captain for dummies
and was informed he needed to be authoritative the same way bacula read
>acting mad for dummies

>>212606576
Yeah well here is a condescending Pulaski

>>212606600
As an enterprise enjoyer I could try and use the “he didn’t have a book to go off” defense, but the truth is that he is just the stupidest Captain. He’s there in large part thanks to his father. I love scott bakula though I wish they had done more with that character than they did.

>>212606938
if earth had tried to send a clever military or political power-player vulcans would have shut it down. they had to send the DUMBEST earthling to space and try and sabotage the whole project.

>>212606776
A lot of good came from those Picard "fuck ups," so I'm not sure they can even be called that.
>no more Denise Crosby
that's a win
>surrendering charmed Q, which resulted in humanity receiving a warning about the Borg that may've saved it from assimilation
Hugely important.
>waking up Lore
I think that's a rational enough decision. You would never assume an identical Data would be evil.

>>212606776
The literal vaporization of Earth is on the line and Archer is still on some
>these aliens I never met before probably just want to be my friend!
after that having fucked them over a dozen times already. It is ridiculous.

You know this little ruse in the episode? Archer would have fallen for it if he was on the other end. I wonder what was going through his head.
>Damn he's good kinda good at lying and trickery good thing he's on my side

>>212600824
> people shit on encounter at far point to, but I think it's great
I also think the Pilot was over-hated. It’s got an analogue charm to it and a very earnest script. I love the scene where Riker meets Data in the Holodeck, for example. Has it aged the best? No. Is it focused or polished? Hell No. But it set the stage for what was to come.

>>212607023
he's waiting for a good moment to take shran aside and explain to him how lying and murdering and warring is wrong and he shouldn't do it.

>>212607023
It’s great how nobody was genre savvy enough to realize waking up the dissembled robot in a scrap heap was maybe a bad idea. And even after Lore is acting suspicious they’re just like “Well Data is strange too… That’s just how Androids are!”

>>212607151
Shran already knows that and Archer knows he knows that. It was pretty clear in their previous encounter when he shut down his uppity lieutenant. However he's still under orders. The fact that Archer really thought the Andorian powers that be sent them on a mission to check up on humans in some no mans land cosmic horror hellhole section of space out of the kindness of their hearts is soooooo embarassing

>>212606776
>Picard fucked up plenty when he first started
Easy Phillipa
>Waking up Lore
The fuck was he supposed to do?
>getting Tasha murdered
Risk of the chief security officer
>Surrendering at Farpoint like the fucking Frenchman that he was
Yeah he sure fucked up by making the correct decision
>But that means you got to watch him grow and learn from his missteps
Picard biggest growth is that he becomes more human and doesn't scowl at children on site. In terms of command he's nearly inscrutable the entire show. He's all about learning how not to be captain in every facet of his life.

>>212607255
surely if archer explains it better this time shran will really understand

I've tried before with Enterprise and I just don't get why it's good
it's like a fucking modern day slop version of Star Trek (for the time period it came out in)
Like, I could stick on some shitty drama based in any state and get the same incredibly retarded story arcs, they just 'sci fied it'
It's weird as fuck
It's like they went 'what would a normal, non sci-fi show be like' rather than 'how can we take these sci-fi elements and make them into an episode people will like'

>>212607371
enterprise is a tough one to like but unironically you have to embrace the faith of the heart.

>>212607064
Yeah and it gives us Q, the background to 21st century earth and sets the tone that the enterprise use force as a last measure. The bookends of encounter at far point and all good things really start and end the show on that note? Even though they aren't perfect scifi scripts

>>212586407 (OP)
star trek is a futuristic soap opera, ther you go, that why trekkies seem to me like a bunch of idiots, their series is plain stupid

>ent
>it's like a fucking modern day

kek. hello fellow good trekkers

>>212607434
Thanks for the mongoloid input faggot

>>212586407 (OP)
I've been rewatching DS9 and noticed early Garak has a different affectation to his voice along with Rom. Were there any other characters that had this?

>>212607434
You're smart. You make /trek/ go.

>>212607474
I'm sorry, anon
I'm drunk, you see.
Point is that it really is like a modern day tv show (for the time period it was made in, not set in)

>>212607396
I did try it. I thought that T'Pol might carry it or the average asian-fu language one but like, no. All the other characters are retarded
I don't know how to explain it. It was like they watch a normal soap opera and said 'yep, ignore the star trek elements if we can'

>>212607558
Sisko went from 'I can speak' to 'I C-AN SUH-PEAK-AH'

>>212607371
ENT is a TOS homage so they tried to reuse a lot of TOS style conflicts and realized how retarded they were so they just decided cgi laser fights would be fine too. Also ENT boomers of the day were hugely impressed with CGI i guess like that motherfucking gorn.
>>212607558
i think rom only shows up like once before s2? never noticed much change with garak though.

>>212607558
Quark sounds weird in the pilot and yeah, Rom is still doing his "evil Ferengi" voice instead of his "retarded Ferengi" voice.
Spock in The Cage is a completely different character, talks totally different.

>>212607371
Other trek shows feel so otherworldly and alien a lot of the time and rightfully so. I enjoy enterprise because it exists within the same universe and feels so American. It’s the bumbling space force dell computer monitors Big Mac quarter pounder Florida trek. Humanity hasn’t really embraced the whole other world thing yet

>>212607646
>try it
You can't try faith of the heart you just have to like embrace the show holistically. Everyone agrees the intro theme is fucking terrible, like unimaginably awful and unsuited for the show. Once you can accept thats the ride that you're on and the limitations that the cast and crew are under and they're just trying their darnedest then you can play along at their dumbed down level.

>hey jim, take a load off and have some mint julep
>jim cmon, we are all on shore leave not so come and join me for some mint julep
>jim damnit ive known you since before you gotten your captaincy now come on and have a mint julep
>damnit jim im a doctor, not a bartender and as your doctor i have the unique distinction of being able to order you to come here and have a mint julep
>have some mint julep or i will deem you unfit to command the enterprise

>>212607255
>shut down his uppity lieutenant
Oh yeah speaking of her I noticed she's gone in this episode KEK I wonder if she pulled some shit and lost her commission or went rogue or something. Things to think about when you're watching an episode you already figured out way before Archer did. Many such cases.

>>212607709
I liked the intro. It was amazing.

>>212607665
It's just, shit like 'so like I will read out any question the children want so when you poop where does it go hahahahahha isn't that funny hahahhaha'

no, it's not
it's retarded

>>212607945
>poop question
its not a joke, they're playing astronauts talking directly to children in the way those things go. what they're doing somehow isn't even for the audience it's just the sort of thing they felt would fit in with the tone and it works. it's completely retarded and unsuitable for television and its existence no fucking sense but they play it straight and they tried really hard. faith of the heart.

>>212607737
Bones will look you in the eye and tell you to knock off the junk food and alcohol. And then immediately join you for junk food and alcohol. He’s the best doctor.

>>212608145
damnit jim im a doctor, not a dietician

>>212608033
Archer gets uncomfortable
The whole thing is basically 'what if we made Star Trek but like, we put people from the modern day there'

>>212608227
no its 'what if we made star trek but only archer was sort of modernish' but mostly thats because bacula can't act like anything but bacula.

>>212606538
and cut to riker looking concerned as if he just now realized he is fat

no matter how dumb this show gets or how dumb Archer is in the end it's fine because as a human i do unironically believe in the indomitability of the human spirit and unironic faith of the heart. sometimes it's fun to yell at the screen at stupid characters and situations. i wouldn't have expected it from trek necessarily but here we are

>>212605807
I didn't realize it was a video.
but good on the AI for "knowing" how to manipulate the reflections

>>212598962
>he's looking at the reflections
>>212599205
is it? it doesn't feel wrong

Soulless minions of orthodoxy

How much time do these guys spend watching people fuck?

>>212610339
I want to watch THEM fuck.

>>212586407 (OP)
>Garak is best black operative

Gayniggers from Outer Space

>>212607685
>Spock in The Cage is a completely different character, talks totally different.
In nimoys defense he had eaten his weight in lsd that first week of production

Made it to the season finale of season 5 of DS9. Pretty good stuff on rewatch. The anon who said there's no coombait on this show forgot about Leeta. She's got quite the set of gazongas.

>>212611794
Don't tell him.

>>212611794
She's a Kira queen
Dynamite with a phaser beam

>>212604726
sure but some guys can only get laid on the holodeck, even in the bright shiny future

>>212605417
sure. they represents the 1s in binary logic

>>212586598
nah that's canon. In the episode of TNG where they pick up all the old cryogenically frozen people, Data says that television as a medium dies off in a couple decades. Which is perfectly in lock step with what will become the rise of low effort ai slop and a massive cultural shift back toward live music and theater.

>>212607931
AI Ghibli managed to make Guinan look attractive. Not sure if I'm impressed or unsettled.

>>212612205
Ick you couldn't pay me to go to live theater.

>>212612205
AI wasn't even a dream when TV died anon

>>212612392
I'm sure pundits and internet argue men will change your mind in a few years.

give new

>>212612434
I don't watch movies anymore, I don't care what the schizoid communist Muslim left-wing crypto Jewish libertine/ultraconservative propagandists want to say to me, and I won't give them the chance to do it in person.

>>212612494
the new superman movie is pretty rad

>>212612416
Trek places it around 2040. Which is around when most of the baby boomers will be dead.

>>212612518
Propaganda slop

>>212612494
see you at the theatre anon

>>212612564
I wouldn't go to sit in a room with a bunch of stinky zoomers, and I generally disagree with your assumption that theater will make some kind of comeback. The masses will eat the AI slop if the elites decide to feed it to them.

>>212611794
>She's got quite the set of gazongas.
I know that you do this on purpose.

>>212612781
idk what you're on about, leeta is canonically gazonga-rich.

Odo is basically sitting on the railing of the promenade. I don't like heights. I never liked seeing them film stuff at the edge of the second level of the promenade. Makes me nervous every time. And then now Odo is practically standing on one leg at the edge?? They were seriously flirting with disaster with that set.

>>212612937
Thank you. I'm the one who posted about Leeta and I don't know what they're upset about?

>>212612951
He has the blood of Napoleon. He does whatever he wants.

>>212613048
I wonder if they had safety nets or something that they hid with camera tricks like when Jake and Nog used to sit there.

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Can I just point out that Tendi is a hot little green girl?