Robert Baratheon: Murdered by a Pig.

Ma'ario Na'aharis.

>>212587881 (OP)
THE BOOOOOaaaaAAAAARRRR is pregNANT

>>212587881 (OP)
Considering he was the only king to give them over a decade of peace and plenty, you'd think the lords and small folk would be welcoming another Baratheon

You'd think he'd make more trips up North more often than once a decade. They could just sail up most of the way

>>212588168
The people kinda do in the books, but the issue is that the two remaining baratheons go to war with each other instead of cooperating

The people love Renly
FUcking hate Stannis, because they're mud farmers and they see him as cold (he is) and uncaring (he is not :( )

The lords however want neither the boytoy nor the rightful king on the throne

>>212587881 (OP)
A PREGNANT BOAR AHEAD OF A DOTHRAKI WHORE

>>212589077
If Renly had just supported his rightful brother, none of this shit would have happened

>>212590078
that animal Renletto...

>>212587881 (OP)
but what was the pig’s tax policy

>>212590078
Renly is basically just a carbon copy of Robert in his youth.
if Robert had just supported Rhaegar and helped him get rid of Aerys to reform the targaryen line instead of spering out over a woman who didnt even love him, none of this wouldve happened.

I hated how they made Renly such a limp wristed wimp in the show. I never got that impression of him in the books at all.

>>212588168
>only king to give them over a decade of peace and plenty
Nonsense. Revolutionists also do this. I will not let history be erased.

Bobby B was the best part of the show. Perfect casting.

>>212590296
the war of the five capos... whatever happened there

Iron Borne were extremely disappointing

>>212587881 (OP)
actually me and my spymaster plotted to kill him and it went well

KINGSLAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>212595050
Bobby didn't have to be so mean to Jaime. And you'd think he'd be nice with that guy supposed to be protecting him, who has already killed his previous charge

>>212590426
Doesn't matter, Robert was betrothed and Rhaegar wasn't. It was among the Northerners real greaseball shit

>Young Robert once asked, "can a man change his stars?"

>>212595270
he was SURROUNDED by LANNISTERS

>>212595050
GODS I WAS FAT THEN

>>212588168
They welcomed Joffrey Baratheon.

>>212589077
>The lords however want neither
It is a matter of duty. Wants do not enter into it.

>>212598347
Doesn't make any sense that the Red Woman's powers suddenly stopped working

>>212598347
This guy looks like he's never won a land battle against a peer opponent.

>>212599656
Give it time, Frey cunts. Hope you rats learned to swim.

>>212598347
Based

>>212590426
>just be a cuck bro

bump

>>212601658
Fetch the bump stretcher!

>>212598347
Is there a reason why did magic bullshit with his daughter didn't work?

Who was in the wrong?

KINSLAYER! GET IN HERE! WE'RE TELLING BOAR STORIES!

BUMP THIS THREAD IN THE NAME OF YOUR KING

I miss the greens so fucking bad bros

we'll never have something like got again

wa-*COUGH* watch it Bobby

Eighteen years of peace and partying. Give it up for the greatest king of Westeros

>>212587881 (OP)
Great Robert. Even a better Bloody Baron.

>>212589077
The lords did want Renly, he was gathering a huge amount of supporters.

>>212604400
Bobby was banging girls who had been but babes when he first was crowned

>>212605111
>>212604677
>>212604400
>>212603255
checked

>>212590078
>>212604677
If Renly was already willing to kill his brother to take the throne, why didn't he just side with Stannis and like 4 months after Stannis became king just had him assassinated. There's a single digit amount of people in the Seven Kingdoms that would have fought for Stannis' daughter's claim for the throne over Renly becoming king.

>>212587881 (OP)
>M-Moar boar your grace?

>>212606669
>LANCEL YOU IDIOT, I'M BOAR'D

>>212603255
makes sense, they're in the right

bump

>>212608940
FETCH THE BUMP STRETCHER BEFORE I PISS MESELF!

>>2

Greens are traitors. inb4 long winded explanations about why they don't have to obey the King

>>212609849
/tv/ is a Purple board.

>>212609917
/tv/ is a golden board

Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.

>>212610049
The only scene that would've made Daenerys entertaining.

>>212610178
There's a scene in the books where a stinky pirate makes her do ass to mouth. Could have been kino.

>>212610049
It would have subverted my expectations for them to film this in explicit detail. Emilia completely nude and shitting diarrhea. Cut to an extreme closeup of her sphincter in explicit detail as it loosens and expels copious amounts of brown water accompanied by glorious surround sound audio. And it goes on for ten minutes. She'd have deserved an oscar.

TAOOBA

>>212587881 (OP)
It's a metaphor of his degenerate and gluttonous life.

>Robert,” Ned said in a voice thick with grief, “you must not do this. Don’t die on me. The realm needs you.”
>Robert took his hand, fingers squeezing hard. “You are...such a bad liar, Ned Stark,” he said through his pain. “The realm...the realm knows...what a wretched king I’ve been. Bad as Aerys, the gods spare me.”
>“No,” Ned told his dying friend, “not so bad as Aerys, Your Grace. Not near so bad as Aerys.”
>Robert managed a weak red smile. “At the least, they will say... this last thing... this I did right. You won’t fail me. You’ll rule now. You’ll hate it, worse than I did... but you’ll do well.
>“The girl,” the king said. “Daenerys. Let her live. If you can, if it...not too late...talk to them...Varys, Littlefinger...don’t let them kill her. And help my son, Ned. Make him be...better than me.” He winced. “Gods have mercy.”
<...>
>he threw the empty cup aside. “Will I dream?”
>Ned gave him his answer. “You will, my lord.”
>“Good,” he said, smiling. “I will give Lyanna your love, Ned. Take care of my children for me.”
We may clown on George's writing then and now but goddamn is he good at writing those death scenes.

>>212603255
>start watching the show
>figured I'd be team Black, since Rhaenyra was named heir by her king dad, so seems legit
>Greens actually seem to be in the right though
>like the Green members more, Aegon is cool
>realize they were the real heroes all along
The funniest thing is how TB cope by saying how their bloodline lived, yet it lived to see the dragons die off and a line of shit kings like Aegon IV and Aerys.

>>212599643
Whens that? In books you a pov chapter that shows shes grossly incompetent

>>212611703
>>Greens actually seem to be in the right though
By what higher authority?

>>212590426
The north vale storm foster pact was already a means ro check the targ power. They had no dragons and therefore no means to rule. The war was more about that than pussy even if robert didnt know it

>>212611761
By the fact that the Kingdom has run by Andal laws of succession, in which a son always comes before a daughter no matter the age.
Viserys didn't even try to change the law to make his appointing Rhaenyra heir legal, he just assumes everyone will obey the word of the King even when he's breaking the law.

>>212587881 (OP)
what I don't buy is that this was all planned; apparently the pig was in on the assassination

>>212611927

>>212611863
>By the fact that the Kingdom has run by Andal laws of succession
Doctrine of Exceptionalism.

>>212611761
the sacred laws of traditional andal law and legal precedent of previous kings recognised as righteous and just. Didn't even try to put forth the idea of andal, Firstmen and Valerian succession for different regions.

>>212598347
Is Stannis autistic?

>>212612108
>sacred laws
What do the sacred laws say about getting conquered by dragon wizards?

>>212612129
Of course he is, why do you think /tv/ likes him so much?

>>212602936
Barristan the Bitch for not enforcing the king's last will.

>>212611978
that looks 100x better than the ending we got from GoT

>>212606506
Nobody would have fought for Shireen. In that scenario, if Renly seemed innocent, he would have been the heir to Stannis before Shireen.

>>212612271
What was the kingsguard doing when they weren't helping Ned enforce Robert's will?

I know half the kingsguard was bought by Cersei, but is it really believable that they would ignore Robert’s last command? Surely Barristan if he wasn’t a bitch, and Arys Oakheart if Barristan stood up, would be opposed? So it’s Barristan and possibly Arys against Taryn Mant Boros Bluont and Preston Greenfield? They’d never take those odds

>>212613168
if any of them or someone with influence was there when it was written then yea. but they dont know if its real so in their minds joffrey is king now

>>212587881 (OP)

The more I say that line, the funnier it gets. Carve a bloody swath through army after army and kill the prince 1v1, only to have too much to drink and get fucking dropped by a pig. Feels bad man

>Kill the level 99 boss
>Walk back to the inn to save
>Get killed by a level 2 slime or some other stupid shit on the way

>>212598347
stannis is a kinslaying demon-worshipper

>Cersei has mere days to kill the king and make it look like an accident or she's doomed
>her master plan is... to get him a bit drunker than usual and hope he slips on a banana peel and breaks his neck or something
>it works

>>212589073
Ned met Baby Tommen who was born after the Greyjoy rebellion ended so I assume their was some sort of get together at some piont

>>212611863
THey already broke that skipping over Aegon the uncrowned and Aemon's kids

....semoc eH

>>212614812
It was an act of chaos.

>>212590426
The renly/robert shit went deeper than lyanna. Not only did him running off with lyanna disrespect robert, as well as that stunt with the flower crown at the tournament shaming and mocking both rhaegars wife and robert, but roberts parents died going to lyse to find a wife for rhaegar. Rhaegar is part of the reason robert is an orphan, then rhaegar gets married to some dornish chick, then he steals roberts fiancee to have as his sidepiece. His anger makes perfect sense. Then you factor in his fiancees brother is his best friend and his best friends family gets butchered by rhaegars dad for that stunt, and everything aligned for robert to want to smash that silver haired fucks chest in.

>>212614675
It's not "just a pig". They're specifically hunting huge tough boars with tusks. They're dangerous to anyone. Robert is a big dude and he's done it a lot so he takes it for granted that he won't miss his thrust and his spear will kill it before it gets into attack range

>>212614812
If I remember correctly it was especially strong wine that was served to him, I think it was implied there might have been something in there fucking with his senses or slowing him down

>>212614812
it was always 10 lbs of bullshit that it worked off at the perfect time, george just put it that way, poor writing essentially, or an act of god type thing, considering she'd allegedly been trying to kill him for years. When you bring this up book purists seethe tho and mention varys telling ned in the cells it was always going to happen, as if varys isnt a liar and playing ned.

>>212602874
it did work, iirc it made the snow stop falling. like lvl 1 change weather magic. dude got jipped. everything about stannis end in the show is horseshit.

>>212611761
the grand council set by jaeherys targaryen set out that a son comes before a daughter, it is what allowed viserys to inherit instead of daena the daring or wtv the fuck her name was. Then viserys tried to ignore what allowed him to become king when he was never originally the successor to try and push his daughter.

>>212611927
He was a drunk everyday of his life who could hold his liquor with the best of them but his wife got him drunk as part of her master plan

>>212611927
We're supposed to believe he died due to Lancel supplying him with booze, as if he wouldn't drink by himself anyway

>>212614812
I wan't to believe she didn't acually plan anything and the usual spy kids (varys etc.) are overreaching

Bump

>>212587881 (OP)
>Robert Baratheon: Murdered by a Pig.
Suicide by a cop or he just died on Ukrainian war?

>>212618657
ur mom fell on him

Daeron next week if anyone still cares

>>212615145
From Reddit

>>212613279
>literally has the kings seal on it

>>212613279
GORMLESS

>without you i'm a silhouette

>>212621230
Without you I’m a silhouette anon.

BESSIE

>>212622380
THANK THE GODS FOR BESSIE

AND HER TITS

>>212615860
oh right forgot about the snow kek
He got KWAB'd so hard unfortunately

>>212614675
A wild boar WILL fuck you up, you're probably imagining that Robert got killed by a piglet.

>>212611927
You will marry Ser anon, of house /got/hotd/dunk/.

>>212611703
It’s neat because it confirms that Rhaenyra’s line was tainted, as it destroys House Targaryen forever

apparently Aegon is getting some kind of redemption/growth arc next season and people are spazzing out about it, Rhaenyra will also become more “fanatical”

>>212616554
I like this, or at least that everyone (especially Tywin) recognizes that Cersei's plan is awful and it's another instance of her being the pigeon on the chessboard.
Because really, Cersei's whole track record is:
>Hatch retarded plan full of pitfalls and blindspots
>Congratulate yourself for being so heckin' brilliant
>Make sure your yes men agree with the plan (they do)
>When your brothers or other politicians in your circle inevitably warn you your plan is retarded, ignore them and call them cowards
>Launch plan
>Plan works, out of a total stroke of fortune
>Gloat about how you're a strategic fucking genius while everyone around you rolls their eyes and does damage control

>>212624995
the thing is that Cersei in the first couple of seasons at least isn't actually planning anything.

LF kills Jon Arryn
Joffrey sends the assassins to kill Bran
the boar thing is obviously a fluke
LF betrays Ned
Cersei tries to prevent Ned from getting executed but Joffrey ruins it
Joffrey also sends the Goldcloaks to kill Bobby's bastids
afterward she's just kinda there, drinking and watching as Tyrion sells Myrcella off to Dorne
it's not until later that she actually starts doing something

>>212624416
Hopefully that means they actually do something with the characters then. Because, and let's be honest, the Dance largely sucks in terms of writing.
Aegon II doesn't really get a chance to do much, or get much character development at all.
Rhaenyra is, ostensibly, meant to be in the right, but first she comes off as uncaring and a bit of a lying bitch, and then suffers tragedies that seem meant to make us sympathize with her but she just grows nastier as a person. So I guess the more "fanatical" thing will be in keeping with the books.

>>212615807
why would varys be lying? he was intentionally trying to destabilise the throne so "aegon" had a better chance of coming in and taking the throne, killing the king who ruled for 17 years with relative peace and replacing him with the retarded psychopath (that most people would know isnt actually the right king anyway) and his dumb narcissistic mother falls in line with that

>>212625229
it will make the story more interesting considering Aegon was the best written character of season 2 which was random and unexpected, but most people are really not happy about it and are saying they won’t fall for green propaganda with humanising Aegon. they already started the fanatical plot for Rhaenyra looking back when she basically sacrificed all those dragonseeds because she is the chosen one and it’s for the greater good.

>>212625460
it doesn't help they included that retarded baby fighting part with Aegon II in season 1. top fucking kek. they really took a shite in the bed with both of them. rhaenyra is a fucking inbred loon that tried to cuck the royal line with bastards and married her own uncle, but normies think she's good.

>>212588168
Smallfolk don't get to do shit
The nobility will pledge themselves to whomever advance their own interests the best

Robert is responsible for the state of the realm and how it falls apart, it's his fault his illegitimate children ruin everything. He basically went on autopilot and drank himself to death, he put in no effort.

>>212625629
>descendant of Rhaenyra
>illegitimate children trigger a civil war

it's like poetry, it rhymes

>>212625629
I mean what should he have done instead? Other than not wasting money

>a dance with dragons came out 14 years ago today

>>212589077
stannis just did whatever task was asked for him, whether it was governing dragonstone or commanding the realm's fleet. if he was slighted or felt wronged, he just kept it all inside him for the sake of stability and order
meanwhile renly was doing all sorts of politicking and increasing his influence in the shadows just like the rest of the leeches

being stepped over in the succession was the one (1) thing he couldn't tolerate under any circumstance; plus it set forward a horrible precedent of ottoman-style succession by extermination of siblings that would cause incomprehensible instability in the long run
DnD hated him because he was the closest thing to a "normal" white guy claimant to the throne, everyone else was queer, inbred or a femoid

>>212625720
The money thing is overplayed anyway. Kings were routinely broke in real life, and with the Targaryen monarchy being so weak and lacking institutions, it's no wonder its revenue situation would be unable to sustain a king's lifestyle.

>>212625954
I know about real life kings going bankrupt every 5 years (looking at spain) but apparently according to grrm it's a very serious matter

>>212625991
I wish he'd done a little more homework about the medieval setting. Like his knowledge of castles. I like some of the creativity, for fantasy's sake, but he doesn't seem to fully understand how they were used.
Like Edmure's situation. Being told to hold a castle historically means the territory *around* it too, since castles are used to stage attacks from (and more). It's like GRRM thought that you hold a castle by just holing up inside.

>>212614812
book pycelle said something among the words of "we were still planning to get him even if the boar injury wasn't fatal"
my understanding was that getting him drunk was a passive type of assassination, hoping he would get into an accident in the long run so that he would die while getting "treated", but she got the jackpot when it mattered the most (asspull writing)

>>212622352
how do you even get such a lethal arson attack in a stone castle

>>212614812
>>212615207
>>212615630
>>212615807
>>212616554
>>212626116
To be fair, hunting in the medieval period was fraught with dangers and accidents were very common. More than one noble or member of royalty in Europe was injured or even killed in hunting accidents.

I'm guessing she thought getting him extra drunk would increase the likelihood of one.

>>212625720
Notice his cunt wife was fucking his personal bodyguard
Notice his kids aren't his
Notice his son is a sociopath and do something about it
Get the fuck over his past and do his fucking job

Here's that royal hunting party you asked for.

>>212626329
no one ever noticed until the Jon Arryn thing. The kingdom was happy, the noble families pleased with the status quo

>>212626377
Literally four niggas innawoods

Selmy in full ceremonial gear will always be funny.

>>212626153
Larys’ dried flower collection is highly flammable.

>>212627210
Kek

>>212621230
Okay that's it we are going to battle!
*Immediately cuts to hundreds of corpses on a field without showing a single swordfight*
Season 2: okay we are going to have a really big battle! A really big fight is going to happen! *Season ends with all the build up culminating to a fight that will be shown.. 2 or 3 years later*

>>212627210
that's what happens to dany simps

Is Euron warging the dusky woman and blowing his brother?

>It's done, Alicent thought, they're breaking. The Blacks were running, throwing down their weapons, rivermen and Vale dwellers and northerners in fur and boiled leather, they were running. Rhaenyra was gone, someone was waving Daemon's head on a pole, Benjicot Blackwood's lines had broken. Only the two Alans on their mounts were holding, buzzing islands in a red steel sea. The fires were leaping from tent to tent and some of the tall pines were going up as well. And through the smoke another wedge of armored riders came, on barded horses. Floating above them were the largest banners yet, royal standards as big as sheets; a smoke grey one with long pointed tongues that showed a white tower, and another like a sheet as black as night, with a golden three-headed dragon prancing and rippling in the wind.

>Ser Otto, Alicent thought for one mad moment, remembering her poor father, but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Aegon! Aegon! AEGON!"

>>212627855
Incest is part of iron born culture

>>212628281
she was so fucking ugly

>>212628562
no bully Yara!

>>212628738
some big slappers on this broad

>>212628738
Having Asha and Osha would have been too confusing for people, but having 2 Aegons, 2 Jaehaerys’, Rhaenyra, Rhaenys, Rhaena and Aegon and Aemond and Daemon all in one show is perfectly fine.

are there any redhead houses besides Tully and Connington?

>>212628838
>we need to call young hodor wylis not walder because the audience might confuse him with walder frey

>>212629290
>walder frey
Big Walder or Little Walder?

Why did they fuck up the Dornish plot?

A Dance with Dragons turns 14 years old today! Say something nice about it.

>>212629771
Don't get it wrong. D&D were here to adapt the Red Wedding. That's it. Dorne didn't matter beyond hanging out with actors they like, and they only wanted to adapt Dorne so much as to hang out with Indira Varma

>>212629894
>A Dance with Dragons turns 14 years old today! Say something nice about it.
I enjoyed Quentyn's short adventure

>>212629894
explains the kingsmoot lol

>>212629232
my house after I rescue her from that midget jon snow

>>212629918
Quentyn is alive though.

Why is George even still alive? It’s insulting

>>212629894
>Dorne didn't matter
well yeah, when they started the HBO series Dorne wasn't really even a thing in the story besides vague world building. GRRM promised he'd have the books out by the time they were catching up and surely there'd be more epic Red Wedding style moments by then! Then he left them hanging in the wind hard

>>212630270
What do you mean? AFFC was out, the only thing that's missing was the Quentyn plot which came out in tandem with season 1 of the show. They didn't have to start setting up Dorne until season 5.

>>212630189
But his adventure is over.

>>212630326
No he's the third head of the dragon.

>>212612157
>what are the sacred laws about getting ACK-

>no more regular /got/ threads
>no more /asoiaf/ threads on /tg/
GRRM killed his own franchise by not finishing the books

>>212630387
based

>>212630338
No he's the second head of the dragon.

>>212630420
Dorne literally can't stop stucking Targaryen cock.

the entire dragon queen plotline felt like filler

>>212630318
There's little to nothing to it which is why it was a disaster. They get into the Dorne arc and have no idea what to do with it since it's so unfinished. Why GRRM wasn't contractually bound to keep putting out the books or at least continually give them story outlines for where he's going with certain arcs is beyond me

>>212630464
Show would have been infinitely better with no essos and no dragons

>>212630387
jesus christ bottom right is fucking grim

>>212630464
>felt like filler
welcome to GRRM

>>212630461
must be why it beat the targs in every war lmao

>>212630890
Doran can't wait to bend over for whatever remnants of the Targaryens are wandering around Essos. He's sent two or three kids now to try and fuck a Targ.

>>212631362
>plots to put his bloodline on the throne
haha what a cocksucker!

>>212629894
>Say something nice about it.
Winterfell political intrigue coupled with Theon's horror was great. I enjoyed Jon and Stannis banter, and the walk of atonement chapter was kino.
Still the worst book in the series, mainly because the majority of plots don't reach their climax.

REMINDER

>>212587881 (OP)
Wasn't he literally poisoned with spiked booze?

THE BOAR IS PREGNANT

>>212632042
but what were their tax policies?

>>212632082
Letting LF deal with it and embezzle all the money.

>>212632118
he wasn't even embezzling it all, he was using some of the taxes as personal funds for investments, and then when the crown needed money he'd send them part of his earnings as if it was even more tax revenues

actually pretty brilliant

>>212632082
I love how that one offhand comment will live rent-free in Tolkienfags heads forever.

>>212598347
What a chad

>>212615207
kaosh is a laddah

>*hisses at you*

>>212632788
titties tho

>>212632788
>dumb chink actually fights with a whip
>she also does this in closed, close quarters
kek

>>212632788
>>212632855
is a whip even a viable weapon?

>>212632788
absolute comedy

>>212632788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiHtCzLFymM

>>212632840
>titties
Boring
>bad poosi
There it is!

>>212627210
KWAB!

>>212625413
because all he does is lie, and he was trying to convince ned to take the black by demoralizing him.
>>212626269
it's about how opportune it is. it perfectly works out in cersei/lannister favor. but most of the first few books are like that. lannister's have insane luck for a while there.

>>212632788
b a d p u s s e h

>>212626329
>notice his kids aren't his
>his son is a sociopath
>his son

>>212630737
It’s only dragonspawn

>>212634018
based

Though all men do despise us

>>212611927

It never set particularly well with me to be honest. Cersei's plan hinged entirely too much on the boar getting a killing blow on Robert. I like the idea of a mundane stupid death, but in this case being a murder method by someone in a hurry, it stretches believability. Cersei and her kids were greatly at risk. Poison was the best option even if it is quite boring. One that causes liver failure to allude to his drinking killing him. Maybe she'd slowly administered over time but upped the dose there towards the end in an act of desperation. It'd be incredibly easy for her, and at most some servants would be slain in response.

>>212633593
Kek what a Barristan indeed my friend

>>212634191
Cersei’s plan didn’t involve the boar. It was just hoping for a hunting accident.

>>212634267
I still refuse to believe there was a plan. Bobbers was drinking himself to death regardless

>>212627210
There's no way he would have been able to take on the ~15 guards all by himself, he was delusional in saying that.

>>212634348
It was more the outline of a plan, since Cersei was too dumb and cowardly

Just like the retarded idea to try and kill Robert in a melee when he’d wreck anyone even while being drunk and obese

>>212634352
He could have. He was the medieval John Wick.

>>212634352
he says 5, and the current kingsguard are all jobbers except clegane and jaime who isn't there

>>212634191
it's bad writing.
her script writer is GRRiM (who looks exactly like Josh Mostel but no one ever says anything).

>>212634267

>Me and my kids are going to get squashed by Roberts hammer if he finds out what I've done
>I'll get him even more drunker than usual and HOPE for a fatal accident

She has access to his food and drink, hell, Lancel HAD his drink. The risk associated with being discovered poisoning him was far lower than the odds of him dying hunting when drinking was his life. He was a king, he had lots of enemies. There would be no way to pin it on Cersei. And it wouldn't matter after Joffrey was king -- which is exactly how things panned out after Roberts death. So it was a stupid move.

>people being surprised that Cersei is a retard
Have you not read AFFC?

>>212634510
should've just been a conidental accident instead of a calculated plot. that would've made more sense.
>his own boorish drunkenness got him killed
people accept hubris as a justified cause in stories

>>212634507
True but Sandor was there and there were a bunch of gold cloacks and lannister soldiers in attendance as well

>>212634517
Yeah a straight up poisoning would've made more sense but I guess it was too obvious for the readers (not the characters, who are clueless aside from Ned)

First for Meera

>>212634517
Cersei isn’t a great schemer.

In Sansa II of AGoT, we see the queen set up Robert for an assassination attempt in the melee, and in the next chapter we get confirmation from Varys that her reverse-psychology was a deliberate attempt to maneuver him into a place where a “tragic accident could take place.” This is very useful information, because it adds to our understanding of how the Lannister Conspiracy operates, and what its signature is – namely, the use of arranged “accidents” as a cover for murder, a tendency to passivity, and an overall sloppiness (Cersei couldn’t really count on her assassination actually killing Robert, given his skill in battle and the general chaos of the melee, and we see this again with Cersei arranging for Lancel to slip Robert fortified wine on his boar hunt, which doesn’t actually guarantee a kill).

>>212634657

Yeah I definitely would have liked an unknown liver failure poison. Even have Robert not doing the best at the beginning of the story, as he's been slowly being poisoned over time if. Have Ned comment on him needing to take it easy on the drinking and eating. Then when he takes a turn south suddenly, it's just an absolute inconvenience. Leaving the reader to wonder. That's something Cersei would take advantage of, a man with a drinking problem. To hide her deeds.

Then much later in the story/future books, when we find out about a rare poison that breaks down the liver, we have our strong evidence. It'll also reinforce the erroneous assumption that Cersei poisoned Jon Arryn.

>>212634848
>a rare poison that breaks down the liver
alcohol ain't that rare bro

>>212634896

A little bit more expeditiously, anon.

>>212632892
more of a farming tool if anything

>>212634191
>>212634267
>>212634348
Boar hunting is an excellent opportunity to kill a king like Robert. Its the most dangerous kind of hunting, even mortally wounded boas will take hunters to their graves. Everyone knows this about boars so fewer people call it into suspicion. Robert is also very easily seen as the type of guy who would die with his boots on. This is a ready made ironic but manly death tailor made for popular consumption and noble credulity.

>>212634517
Everone knows poison is the woman's weapon though. The maesters are clearly able to tell between different poison deaths. Cersei needed a natural death not a mystery finger pointing session

>>212635101
The thing is that Bobby would've been drunk regardless of Cersei and Lancel

>>212635214
>The maesters are clearly able to tell between different poison deaths
Jon Arryn?

>>212635101

I wouldn't disagree with you If it was just the matter of needing Robert to get killed at some point. But Cersei didn't have the luxury of time. You don't worry too much about optics when the clock is ticking and its hands are gigantic war-hammers.

>>212635263
Pycelle is no paragon of honesty

>>212635263
They knew. His maester, I forgot his name, was treating him for poison. Pycelle made him stop because he thought it was Cersei's scheme and made sure that Jon died. Jon's maester's only personality trait is that he's a coward, so he probably decided to keep his mouth shut too.

>>212635214

But what exactly would the outcome of that be? Joffrey would be made king, would anyone attempt to try the queen-mother? She flat out rips up Robert's decree after he's dead. Either she cares about how it looks, or she doesn't. And when your kids you love more than anything are at risk of dying, I don't think Cersei would hesitate to gore him herself.

>>212590426
>just let the prince kidnap and rape your betrothed, then have her father, all of her brothers, you, and your mentor murdered when they complain about it bro
all fucking targshits must fucking hang

>>212635328
Yes to be honest, Im surprised Lancel allowed him to make it to the maesters in time. This must have been because the hunting party was closer than Lancel anticipated. Lancel being a pampered noble would explain why hes not aware of the proximity of the King's real handlers and servants.
My thoughts are that Cersei had standing orders to increase the risk of all the times Robert did dangerous hobbies. She just wanted him gone and was stupid enough to think "well i just need to get lucky once". She should have had Lancel actually finish him off but he didnt have the balls to do so even if ordered.

>>212635376
so Cersei would've have had no trouble poisoning Robert given Pycelle's allegiance to the Lannisters

>>212590426
Nah, Robert smashing the Targ dynasty to pieces with his hammer was unfathomably based and justified

>>212590465
In the books he is basically everything Robert was as a young man in terms of Chad strength but also seemed to have more brains and cunning charisma as well

The show making him a foppish faggot was a disgrace

>>212611927
>I need to kill my husband, but how...
>I know! I'll instruct my cousin to secretly give him extra strong wine the next time he goes on a hunt.
>He will not notice the wine is strengthened, and get drunker than usual.
>In his heightened drunken state, when he eventually finds a boar, he will order his many guards to stand back and do nothing while he goes to fight a boar alone, which they will all unquestioningly obey despite seeing how drunk he is.
>And then when he confronts the boar it will charge him, and in his heightened drunken state he will fail to kill the boar correctly, allowing it to gore him to death while all his guards do nothing!
>It's the PERFECT assassination plan!

Cersei Lannister could give Aizen a run for his money.

>>212591813
Should've been taller and it was hard at times to picture Mark Addy as having been the Chaddest of Chads in his youth but Addy's performance in isolation is peak

>>212635475
>would anyone attempt to try the queen-mother

She had so many enemies that would give their left nut/tit to see he twisting in the wind. Hell, you could probably get Joffery to do it lmao
Lots of nobles who got to feign ignorance at the hunting accident because it was convenient for them would be forced to action in a situation where even maesters are saying the king is dead by poison. Servants would be questioned sharply, people would squeal under the slightest pressure.

>>212635606
Pycell was too smart to agree to such a plan he knows hed be the first fall guy

>>212635700
They said he looked like him but spent all his time shopping for clothes. He might look good, but hes no freak like Bobby was

>>212635700
I disagree. Renly was a hollow man. He looked the part, he schemed here and there, but that's about it. He is an incompetent commander as seen in his strategy, he is pissing off his top men due to nepotistic choices, and most of his "loyal" follower drop his memory the moment he is gone. He was lucky that he got entangled with the Tyrells. That's about as far as his talents go.

Brienne's chapters were actually my favorites in the books.
Damn the rest of the world, I really fucking hope she gets a happy ending.

>>212626377
>Fighter, Rogue, Bard and Paladin off on a level 1 quest to slay a boar.

>>212635891
Renly acted like he won before the fight started

>>212634659
definitely very hairy

>>212635936
It will be way better than the nonsensical slop the show farted out

>>212590426
It was too late for targs. Rhaegar could just made a coup with other nobles against his father.
That could work

>>212636198
reminder that the actor was 45 years old at the time of this scene

>>212636198
Funniest death in the show.
>just lies there and takes the skelly hand's lazy stabbing
>gets his throat slit by Meera
>gets blown up by Leaf
Might as well have had Summer have a go at him as well. It reminded me of Chef's death scene in South Park.

>>212634659
found out the actress is a lesbian

I swear every chick I find hot is gaaaaay

>>212636775
Your gaydar is broken. I can tell that she's a dyke just from the photo.

>>212636910
I think the problem is that I'm attracted to dykes

>>212635728
From now on I'm gonna take random events and make it sound like I somehow masterminded them.
It was all orchestrated, an earthquake here a stubbed toe there...
it's absolute silly when you think about it but a fun thought experiment on the Phenomenology of Satan

>>212635936
>muh fag renly was the rightful king cuz he was nice to me
Spare me

>>212636934
>Phenomenology of Satan
that's the irony too: the devil is such a liar he takes credit for the evil shit other people willfully did.
what a pos

>>212636971
>liar
and a cheat

>>212636962
Come now anon, forgive a young, insecure girl's heart. And besides her book chapters after Renly is dead have a whole different focus.

>>212637033
I respect Quixotians.

>>212637081

>>212634517
Pycelle was the Lannisters' man and he would be the one to investigate the cause of death. It would be trivial to get away with it. In fact, Jon Arryn had already died from Lysa poisoning him, which Pycelle knew and did nothing about, so this would just be a repeat.

So yeah, she could easily have killed Robert and gotten away with it with Pycelle's help.

>>212638611
That would require Cersei to trust Pycelle. And that would require her to have sex with him.

>>212638729
Which isn't something anyone who knows her would put past her. She could fucking Moon Boy for all I know.

>>212587881 (OP)
Pig, diabetes and poison. What a bad combination.

BUMP THE DAMN THREAD BEFORE I PISS MYSELF

>>212640238
we're in /grrm/ on /lit/

Why are the Dornish so based?

>>212627210
>Make him die in a fight he easily won in the books just to piss off the actor
I can't imagine how infuriating it must have been to work with D&D in person.

Yo dornish kinda suck frfr

>>212642093
They were on top of the world. Thought they were the best thing ever. At least they didn't get to carry on with star wars.

>>212590465

Is it not hinted at that Renly is a fag or bi in the books? Something close to his death. But yeah not the best casting.

>>212642703
>bESt SeASoN EvAH!
I love how Emilia was just so fed up of their bullshit

>>212603255

>>212642864
They talk behind his back of him being a nancy boy

I crave bad pussey

>>212627210
I honestly never had a problem with this
>he's an OP fighter!
he's an old man ambushed and surrounded without armour
>he deserved an epic death because he's cool!
this is the antithesis to what Game of Thrones is about

>>212644852
imagine agreeing with D&D and making up excuses for why their decision to kill off an actor in a humiliating way actually is le good

>>212634659
2, 1, 2, 3, 4. THE ONLY GIRL I EVER LOVED.

>>212621230
who is the dude on the right in baratheon attire?

>>212647412
>BRAAVOS GRRM, BRAAVOS

>>212647496
He’s a bracken.

>>212646752
WAS BORN WITH ROSES IN HER EYES

>>212647653
i mean the actor, also is that house of dragons? im 100 percent sure that scene wasnt in got

>>212647653
Due for a crackin'.

>>212647877
It’s from HOTD. Actors name is Ryan Kopel.

>>212641355
I thought you guys got bullied out of /lit/?

>The First Battle of Tumbleton will be directed by Andrij Parekh (Episode 8) and will be the main event filmed at Hankley Common, Surrey.

>Today, preparations on set included the presence of Tommy Flanagan (Roderick Dustin) and soldiers rehearsing for the battle.

>Filming at Hankley Common will take place on 8 different sets:

>In addition to the battle, we learned that there will be a set for scenes in Rook’s Rest Forest (including a burial).
There will also be sets for the King’s Road, 3 battle camps, among others.

Who’s the burial for?

>>212589077
The books arent canon anymore since martin will not be finishing the last books according to him. The shows are canon since atleast they are finished

>Woman get litterally a fraction of power
>entire kingdom goes into several years of civil war and death spiral
What did GRRM mean by this?

>>212649111
It means youre an incel

>>212649111
Good morning Saar

>>212634848
I'm glad you're not a writer

>>212649111
Fuck yo ubloody misoginist sexist bitch

>>212649239
TOASTY ROASTIE

>>212643079
with haste

>>212649830
Me on the the right.

>>212632449
Forget tax policies, what was the consistency of aragorns stool

>>212650029
.etsah htiw, ABOOAT

New thread your grace?

Nuncle

>>212652154
Nipples on a breastplate, swimming in butter.

>>212652216
Her cunt became the world…

>>212648070
*sip