The Hollywood resistance remakes the Man of Steel. - /tv/ (#212589660) [Archived: 675 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:47:04 PM No.212589660
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>We may never know Zack Snyder’s master plan for advancing the Superman saga since his Man of Steel opus (The Godfather of superhero movies) was disrupted by studio executives at Warner Bros. who insisted on a comic book series that emulated Christopher Nolan’s nihilistic but more profitable Batman franchise. They wanted darkness, not Snyder’s seriousness. But “dark” means trivial in Millennial film culture, and now, with James Gunn’s new Superman, Warner has gotten the inconsequential movie it always desired.
>Snyder took up the Superman comic book myth then enhanced its meaning as American cultural heritage with classical, spiritual roots. This grand vision opposes fanboy frivolity, which is the basis of Gunn’s commercialized version. His Superman (portrayed by David Corenswet) is introduced as a humiliated, known quantity. He has already lost a battle, slammed into the pavement of Metropolis, and is bloody, wounded, and wheezing.
>Gunn’s point is to replace myth and destroy all faith. This Superman movie is the most cynical imaginable. It doesn’t just go against the original Joe Shuster–Jerry Siegel comic book ubermensch that Snyder understood; it reworks a figure for the dystopian millennium and Hollywood resistance.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:51:56 PM No.212589797
>There’s no denying that Guardians of the Galaxy director Gunn knows the market he panders to when he emasculates Corenswet’s average all-American masculinity — the essence of the Superman concept — then extracts any romance from Superman’s relationship with reporter Lois Lane (Rachel Brosnahan is grating throughout their meant-to-be-flirty spats). Lacking Snyder’s erotic pairing of Henry Cavill and Amy Adams, Gunn degrades the humanity of these characters. He victimizes Superman (horribly so in a poorly judged “Pocket Universe” prison sequence featuring nightmarish degradation) and then triggers audience revulsion through evil genius Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult), whose key-punch video game tropes remotely attack a man of virtual invulnerability rather than a man of steel. Luthor combats Superman through a combination of science and technology — injecting nanobot GPS trackers into Superman’s bloodstream — using methods that recall the hideous Covid manipulation.

>Gunn’s objective is to banalize the very concept that Snyder sought to elevate. He demeans Superman’s virtue, making him a figure of public distrust vilified in the press, yet gives him goofy boyishness through a mischievous terrier-schnauzer mutt named Krypto. Snyder eliminated the pet, but Gunn uses the dog for dragging Superman’s rumpled body to the icy Fortress of Solitude. The sequence lacks surprise as well as delight. Inane dialogue and jokey asides constitute Gunn’s half-Nolan and half-Marvel hackery.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:53:35 PM No.212589840
>The conventionality that Gunn resorts to includes a subplot with the Green Lantern League, a jokey crew of XYZ-men knock-offs. They appear briefly as comic relief until Gunn brings them back to complete a battle Superman cannot win by himself. It’s catnip for inconstant comic book consumers.

>Flashback: Except for that stirring, time-reversal scene in the Superman of 1978, the Christopher Reeve films were clunky quasi-camp. Richard Lester took over the sequels, flaunting his signature light comic touch to prove his superiority to the franchise. But Snyder, being of a later generation, triumphed through expression and dedication that few filmmakers can match — and that Marvel/Nolan addicts simply don’t understand. They tolerated Bryan Singer’s Superman Returns, although it felt both demoralized and uninspired. Snyder overcame all that by bringing visual richness and emotional power. Gunn, instead, infantilizes the tale. His iteration of Superman is just bad business (like Joss Whedon defacing Snyder’s Justice League), even when it veers into social commentary, fashionably evoking the war in Ukraine.

>This Superman demonstrates the perversity called forth everywhere by our media. The pop-art difference between Gunn’s antipathy and Snyder’s mythology is like that between Taylor Swift’s snide “Anti-Hero” and David Bowie’s valiant “Heroes.”
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:55:01 PM No.212589876
Awesome, now I don't have to watch the movie.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:58:00 PM No.212589956
What's the point of being this predictably contrarian? At least mix it up a bit every now and then.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:00:01 PM No.212590010
>This Superman demonstrates the perversity called forth everywhere by our media. The pop-art difference between Gunn’s antipathy and Snyder’s mythology is like that between Taylor Swift’s snide “Anti-Hero” and David Bowie’s valiant “Heroes.”
He is so fucking gay lmao.
>>212589956
He does mix it up sometimes but not with movies this popular. For example he disliked Guadagnino for a while but then praised Bones & All and Challengers. He also gave a negative review to Megalopolis where the contrarian position would be to praise it.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:01:06 PM No.212590042
>>212589956
Why is Gunn so predictably slop?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:01:30 PM No.212590062
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>>212589797
>using methods that recall the hideous Covid manipulation.
Umm, BASED?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:02:13 PM No.212590082
>Gunn, instead, infantilizes the tale. His iteration of Superman is just bad business (like Joss Whedon defacing Snyder’s Justice League), even when it veers into social commentary, fashionably evoking the war in Ukraine.
Lmao, it was so obviously an Israel - Palestine allegory, fuck is he thinking here? I assume it's National Review telling him not to touch the topic at all so he replaced it with a much safer jab.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:02:53 PM No.212590099
Forgot link:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/07/superman-under-the-gunn/
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:03:31 PM No.212590115
This movie is shit
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:03:31 PM No.212590117
>>212590082
american evangelicals are rabidly pro-israel so he's never ever going to mention anything about it
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:05:07 PM No.212590163
>>212590082
Gunn wrote the movie during the Rissia/ Ukraine war and made the Ukranians Brown for extra liberal bonus points. Israel attacking Gaza happened long after the movie was in production.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:05:59 PM No.212590187
>>212590117
why is National Review letting Armond constantly post positive reviews about random movies from Europe about homosexuality?
these niggas aren't Evangelical
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:07:39 PM No.212590229
DISGUSTINGLY BASED.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:07:52 PM No.212590241
>>212590163
In the movie Bovaria is mentioned as a US ally
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:09:27 PM No.212590280
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>>212589660 (OP)
The only opinion that matters.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:11:12 PM No.212590331
>Inane dialogue and jokey asides constitute Gunn’s half-Nolan and half-Marvel hackery.
Armond murdered Gunn here.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:11:20 PM No.212590337
>>212589956
What’s contrarian about honestly reviewing an admitted slopfest?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:12:15 PM No.212590364
>>212590241
Because he's doing a "DRUMPF BAD" narrative. Do you really think a studio hack like Gunn is going to undermine his kike masters?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:14:28 PM No.212590418
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>>212590331
>Gunn’s half-Nolan and half-Marvel hackery.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:15:46 PM No.212590461
>>212590364
There's no Drumpf stand-in in the movie. Also pro-Palestine narrative would be more anti-Drumpf because Drumpf is an Israel shill while on Russia-Ukraine conflict he is ambivalent.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:16:53 PM No.212590493
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>>212590331
>Gunn’s half-Nolan and half-Marvel hackery.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:17:02 PM No.212590496
>>212590461
>There's no Drumpf stand-in in the movie.
Literally Lex Luthor.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:17:48 PM No.212590514
too lazy to read did he like it or not?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:18:07 PM No.212590532
>>212590496
He is more similar to Elon Musk if anything.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:18:10 PM No.212590534
>>212589660 (OP)
>>212589797
>>212589840
THE KING of /tv/
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:19:08 PM No.212590563
>>212590514
He is a Snyder shill, what do you think.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:19:36 PM No.212590584
>>212589956
Uppercut yourself Gunnjeet
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:20:40 PM No.212590610
>>212590461
Liberals spent years telling us that Trump is a Russuan plant/puppet, and Gunn isn't going to risk Zaslav sicking the mossad on him.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:21:29 PM No.212590634
>>212589660 (OP)
he NEVER misses
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:22:13 PM No.212590656
>>212589660 (OP)
He's based but his love for Snyderjeet capeshit is embarrassing
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:23:03 PM No.212590681
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Armond-sama... I kneel
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:26:21 PM No.212590784
>>212589956
>What's the point of telling the truth?
Fuck jews, fuck israel.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:27:47 PM No.212590823
>>212589797
>using methods that recall the hideous Covid manipulation.
He is going all out lmao,
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:28:05 PM No.212590833
>>212589660 (OP)
king of /tv/ never fails
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:28:15 PM No.212590837
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>>212590082
The third temple power grab didn't start until this movie was in post. Both the lead characters being jews was also make any criticism of israel too 'on the nose'.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:32:07 PM No.212590967
HE'S DONE YOU AGAIN
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:32:15 PM No.212590975
>>212590584
>>212590784
>>212590337
>>212590042
Good morning saars ;)
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:33:01 PM No.212591005
White is Right
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:34:36 PM No.212591058
Armond is the only faggot I respect.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:34:50 PM No.212591070
>>212590975
Good morning you shit colored mixed race mutt
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:36:50 PM No.212591134
>>212591058
You don't respect yourself? That's sad.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:38:03 PM No.212591164
>>212591134
No, I also respect your father.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:38:20 PM No.212591177
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>>212589956
Because it's based

I'm an early Zoomer married to a millennial Asian girl. Our favorite role play is that I'm underage and she's an older babysitter who groomed me and started molesting me when my parents aren't home. She teaches me how to jerk off by grabbing my penis and shows me how to deal with those "funny feelings" in my pants. Then we fuck and we pretend my parents are downstairs and she threatens to start moaning loudly if I don't pound her fast enough. She says at some point she might want to try getting a strap on so she can pretend I'm getting raped by a guy. I literally cum buckets every time.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:38:41 PM No.212591188
I didnt watch the Snyder fillms lol
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:38:58 PM No.212591198
>>212590337
Because he praises another slopfest in his review(man of steel).
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:40:18 PM No.212591228
>>212589660 (OP)
>>212589797
>>212589840
The King, he stay the King
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:40:19 PM No.212591230
>>212591164
I have two mothers, they're a lesbian couple.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:42:36 PM No.212591278
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>>212591177
incoming
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:43:16 PM No.212591302
>>212589660 (OP)
>But “dark” means trivial in Millennial film culture

That must be why their favorite superhero movie is called the dark knight starring an actor who just OD’ed and died. A film that’s 100x more stark and serious than watchmen, 300 or sucker punch.

>he emasculates Corenswet’s average all-American masculinity

Receiving a red-ass beat down from Ben affleck sort of does the same thing no?

https://youtu.be/yngKXEBALE0

Best scene of snyders career… makes Superman look like krillin
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:47:40 PM No.212591430
>>212591302
That scene is from Batman vs Superman isn't it? He was praising Man of Steel not BvS which everyone knows is trash
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:49:25 PM No.212591485
>>212589956
Their criticism is performance art. These aren't really opinions. And if they were, it doesn't matter. The presentation and quality of writing are what matters.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:52:20 PM No.212591569
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>>212589660 (OP)
>This Superman movie is the most cynical imaginable. It doesn’t just go against the original Joe Shuster–Jerry Siegel comic book ubermensch that Snyder understood
Based. Comic book fanboys only read All-Stars and think that is all the character is about.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:52:58 PM No.212591596
>>212591230
I'm sorry to hear that.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:59:37 PM No.212591772
>>212589956
Man of Steel was his second favorite film of 2013 so to like this film that's the opposite of everything that was would be disingenuous.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:02:43 PM No.212591870
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>>212591177
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:04:30 PM No.212591929
>>212589660 (OP)
Lol this review sucks.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:08:32 PM No.212592044
>>212589660 (OP)
thank you (honorary) White
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:09:07 PM No.212592060
>>212591929
u suck bro
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:12:37 PM No.212592163
>>212589660 (OP)
>Gunn’s point is to replace myth and destroy all faith. This Superman movie is the most cynical imaginable. It doesn’t just go against the original Joe Shuster–Jerry Siegel comic book ubermensch that Snyder understood; it reworks a figure for the dystopian millennium and Hollywood resistance.
He sounds like Ebert. I can appreciate that.
(Yes I know Ebert was a liberal fag, but he had good prose that's what I'm talking about.)
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:16:37 PM No.212592293
Anyone else notice they made SuperJew’s suit big and baggy so the average basedlennial could squeeze their folds into it without it looking too demeaning. You can’t cosplay Cavill or Reeve without being fit, this suit you can be horribly out of shape and still wear it.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:22:30 PM No.212592450
>>212592060
Sorry Armand, I just didn't like it.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:32:31 PM No.212592743
>>212590563
Shill means paid marketer, not a swap-in word for "stan"
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:35:39 PM No.212592827
>>212589660 (OP)
>Zack Snyder’s master plan for advancing the Superman saga since his Man of Steel opus (The Godfather of superhero movies)
Stopped reading. This nigger is a lolcow.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:36:56 PM No.212592869
>>212592293
Cavill is a millenial, retard.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:45:47 PM No.212593139
>>212592869
And? He didn’t have a baggy suit
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:46:02 PM No.212593149
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>>212589956
It's called being an adult
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:51:27 PM No.212593334
>>212589956
The movie sucks Gunn-poo

t. Snyderjeet
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:53:50 PM No.212593418
>>212591177
based you absolute slaaneshi coomer
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:59:36 PM No.212593596
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>>212590062
So Gunn is pushing a left-wing message by having the evil supervillain use covid vaccines?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 8:25:54 PM No.212594379
>>212589797
>Rachel Brosnahan is grating throughout their meant-to-be-flirty spats
Glad somebody finally said it.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 8:27:26 PM No.212594431
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Always fun reading the clueless boomers in the comments.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:01:17 PM No.212595573
>>212594431
That's actually a good point, though. Reeves played the character well.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:06:01 PM No.212595736
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>>212589660 (OP)
>>212589797
>>212589840