Thread 212592898

>It’s actually great. The scene unfolds with Clark and Jonathan in a raw, emotionally charged argument—Clark declaring he doesn’t have to listen because “he’s not his real dad.” But the moment isn't truly about whether Superman can save his father; it’s about Clark embracing his humanity in the eyes of the man who raised him. That’s all Jonathan ever wanted. When people hail Clark as a miracle for saving the bus, Jonathan’s visiblablly rolls his eyes. He sees Clark not as a god, but as his son—his human son. And a human son cannot save his human father. Clark’s choice to honor Jonathan’s wishes isn’t weakness—it’s humility. It’s strength through grief, love through restraint. In the end, he honors Johnathan as his real dad, by listening to him.That’s the point. Why is that so hard for people to understand?


Uhh based?

>>212592898 (OP)
for all its faults. MOS is the better Superman movie imho. the fights alone will never be really topped in current cape cinema.

Nah it's stupid

a few hicks seeing Clark save his dad wouldn't expose him to the world, they probably wouldn't even process what happened. stupid scene

People unable to cope gaslighting themselves.

>>212592898 (OP)
Holy pseud Batman

>>212593030
What would even happen?
He doesn't need to fly off or lift cars or anything else overt.
Just run over there (at a somewhat reasonable speed), grab dad, and run back with him.

People would just think he got lucky.

>>212592898 (OP)
Just let me die son

>>212592948
Great scene.

>>212593030
Way to ignore the post anon. Its not about the Hicks either, its about Clark and his Father. Kek

>Needing to write a huge essay to rationalize a capeslop scene into being remotely sensible
Huge L

>>212593239
>>212592953
>>212593030
>>212593044
What makes this scene so great is the fact the only pov that matters is Pa Kent. No one else. Clark later understands that. Clark was the protector of the world and it required a much bigger introduction. Snyder understood the mechanics that make a hero. It’s not about nonsensical quips and slapstick comedy of modern MCU movies and Deadpoo and Wokverine.

>>212593321
>a huge essay
Anon I know you may struggle with words but thats not an essay kek

>>212593413
>okay, dad, I will. I love you very much and always will.

/thread

>>212593321
The scene stands on its own two feet. If you didn’t comprehend it, that’s on you. If others want to help elucidate the scene and break it down for you into digestible pieces, then thank them for it.

>>212593529
>Um if you think this scene is dumb ackshually you're dumb!

>>212593420
>Snyder understood the mechanics that make a hero. It’s not about nonsensical quips and slapstick comedy of modern MCU movies and Deadpoo and Wokverine.
Ah yes, being a hero is letting an innocent die because that person didn't want you to save him.
Oh wait.

>>212593566
Anon...Idk how to tell you this but pic related did the exact same thing

>>212593566
He's trolling

>>212593650
OP here, I am not.

>>212593030
Its not about that, its being a loving white dad that doesnt beat his kid like a shitskin and therefore commands total obedience from his son, even his most retarded decision. Violent shitskins will never get this.

>>212592898 (OP)
Lots of vitriol here but the that particular part of the movie was exceptional. When Jonathan Kent left safety to save his dog it was 100% an act of bravery. He knew he may lose his life. Did he think, no biggie my super powered son got this…no he was not thinking that. To think that takes away from Jonathan Kent’s heroism. I can write volumes about this scene. Well done to Costner. He really sold the scene. And of course kudos to Zack Snyder. Have fun at the movies this weekend folks!

>>212593642
I know that disney has been shitting on the property for a while but star wars is not a superhero story. Also amusing of you to think I give a shit about star wars. What gave you that idea?

>>212593642
Except Obi-Wan didn't die. He willingly became One with the Force. In other words, he lost his physical body, but his spirit became immortal.

>>212594171
Oh you mean like Pa Kent in BvS gunnjeet?

>>212593833
>star wars not a superhero story
>literally the HERO'S journey
anon I think you may actually be retarded. No wonder you didn't understand this scene kek. No worries brother, you'll join us in the sun someday

>>212594335
>confusing genre with structure
lmao
peak pseud, way to make snyder fans look retarded.

>>212594511
Star Wars is literally the hero's journey which is literally Man of Steel since Snyder literally sources Campbell as his literal reference. Retard. Us Snyderjeets make even you brain foggers look more stupid than you actually are.

>>212594633
>can't even comprehend what is being discussed.
Anon, "superheroes" is a genre. Star wars is space opera. The "hero" from hero's journey is not the same "hero" from the "superheroes" genre. And either way, nothing about the hero's journey has anything to do with the discussion: letting an innocent die because that person didn't want you to save him is not what being a hero is about.

>>212594820
>moving the goal post
Kek
Its the same story following the same beats deliberately. A hero's strength relies in his heart and family which is literally the point of this scene. You keep filtering yourself anon. Ain't your 2:00 showing of gunnjeet superman bouta start?

>>212592898 (OP)
>pseud tranny nonsense

>>212592898 (OP)
It all boils down to respecting and obeying his father. His adoptive father. Allow me to oversimplify, obey father = hero, and disobey father = villain. Oversimplification for sure but it will steer some people above to the right track. Richard Donnor understood as much in the famous, it is forbidden scene. It is forbidden. It is forbidden. It is forbidden for you to interfere with human history. It is forbidden. To disobey his father was to interfere in human history. Alas that’s exactly what Superman did in the 1978 movie. Snyder gave us his take and it was brilliant. If Donner and Snyder understand, shouldn’t you all???

>>212592898 (OP)
Uhh, I think he just didn't want people to discover his son was an alien.

>>212595078
Why do you try to teach the mental equivalent of ants concepts beyond theyre grasp?

>>212592898 (OP)
I would say it's also because the dad argued that maybe you should have let a bus full of kids die, because he cared more about his son than a bunch of other people's kids, didn't want him exposed and lose him to people who would apprehend him and experiment on him. So he's consistent in that belief. He loves his son so much, that when the same question is put to his life, he also believes it's worth sacrificing to keep Clark's secret.
I liked Man of Steel, more than most. The kryptonian aesthetics looked very much like an entirely different alien culture and technology on display. Michael Shannon is always an amazing villain and his reasoning is just as understandable as Thanos' was, a great motivation, well-played. In the same way Jonathan cares more about his son and he'd sacrifice other lives that he doesn't care as much for to protect him, Zod cares more about krypton and it's people, and he'd just as easily sacrifice earthlings for his own.
The movie has foreshadowing and parallels and is better than people who just think "oh capeshit" give it credit for.

>>212593030
they had cellphones they could easily record him, that coupled with the bus miracle bit from his childhood would definitely get interest from certain parties

>>212593191
are you retarded? have you never been in a tornado before? no, he couldn't just walk over there, it would take an inhuman level to just walk over and get his dad out of the car, especially as the winds picked up enough to fling the car away a moment later

>>212594938
>anon desperately tries to drag the discussion away from the original point to save face.
Star wars is NOT a superhero movie. Superheroes and the hero's journey are not related. A story can be both a superhero story and a hero's journey, but they're not intrinsically connected, in the same way a sci-fi or space opera can be a hero's journey or not.
>A hero's strength relies in his heart and family
A superhero saves the innocent. Superman left an innocent to die because that innocent asked to. That is not the meaning of a hero.

>>212592898 (OP)
>amazing amazing wow wow wow wow

>>212595078
kek
Did you copy this from a youtube comment anon? That's really hilarious.
>obey father = hero, and disobey father = villain
It's funny because chinks believe the same.

>>212595205
Which is, btw, the natural conclusion to seeing a teenager run into danger to heroically and miraculously save his father. I see emergency workers saving people and think "Alien". What are firefighters if not Martians?

>>212595078
>brilliant
Snyder really thinks like a brilliant, sar.

>>212596194
She was such a cute jewess...

Snyder kino:
>show, don't tell
Gunn slop:
>tell, don't show

>>212592898 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yodVQ5QAc88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXsqsZ7xbjM
<3

>>212592898 (OP)
kys