Superman looks to be flopping in a lot of overseas markets
China coming in with a clutch already looks to be off the table (surprising when MoS did quiet well over there back in 2013) and other asian markets aren't doing well either
Australia and the UK were the other big markets for MoS back in the day so if those don't do well it's up to Burgers to make the movie a success
$1 Billion is now clearly off the table entirely and even outdoing MoS adjusted for inflation looks to be near unobtainable now
What happens when it does well though?
>>212593378 (OP)Please stop deriving self worth from the success of business ventures you have no part in. It's unhealthy.
>>212593378 (OP)It's a movie for white folks.
>>212593378 (OP)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gunn xits and jeets our response?
Less than $600 million worldwide. Gunn's DC cinematic universe is stillborn or aborted.
>bombing in a nation that loves slop
That's fucking brutal. DC is fucking finished. Holy shit.
>>212593460You mean soi redditors
>>212593378 (OP)Superman is just too american coded
>>212593378 (OP)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
xannies and poos take a HUGE L.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>212593535Chinks arenโt happy with the US
Gunn is on the 3rd place behind Brad Pitt's F1 in China. International results are abysmal for the $363 million budget.
>>212593533There's basically no whiter group of people.
>>212593530>bombing in a nation that loves slopIt's not bombing in India yet, only in China, where people actually appreciate good cinematic pictures.
american movies are kinda insulting
they like to pretend they're the good guys while commiting atrocities irl
>>212593616>There's basically no whiter group of people.Imagine to be proud of being a cuck.
>>212593378 (OP)Chinese are used to better cgi. They will reject it for looking too weird.
>>212593378 (OP)This is probably the worst time in history to release a "murica fuck yeah" movie and expect it to do well internationally.
>>212593439thank you. I dont know why anyone here cares so much about how many normies the producers get into theater seats.
>>212593378 (OP)Get dinomogged losers. The capeshitter fears the BDC!
>>212593844I want to see Superman's box office in Brazil after Trump slapping 50% tariffs to save his crony Bolsonaro's ass.
>>212593844Why? People love and respect America and President Trump, just a year ago everyone was laughing at Biden and America, now everyone knows we're fucking back.
The only actual problem with Superman is how woke and anti-American it is.
>>212593378 (OP)Sorry, indian bots.
But china is a full day behind us. It is still thursday there so the movie hasn't even opened yet.
>>212593914We called it awhile ago. JP was always gonna do the best. Which just goes to show what a weak lineup this was.
>>212593974Eh, Trump slapped massive tariffs on China. So much they threatened to not allow movies in China. Only allowing limited amount of movies. But anything linked to US is going to not do well with chinks
>>212593919Apparently the movie is doing good in the US and Latin America, mid in Europe (With some outright garbage outliers) and dogshit in Asia outside of a decent showing in India
Brazil is reportedly going to be a toss up on if it does better than the Lilo and Stitch movie there but I guess we'll see
In Germany it's basically a dud with Dinokino mogging it and tracking below absolute dogshit capeshit
>>212594094Based. Diaperman BTFO.
>>212593599Dont forget the marketing budget
>>212593599And how well did Snydersarr do?
>>212594142Does not surprise me at all. Superman is very American so butthurt Eurofags and chinks with Trump Derangement will boycott it over dinoslop
>>212594142All the non-shill reviews are coming in and most of them are mixed to negative. Get ready for a massive second week drop off.
>>212593460I AM HIGH CASTE ARYAN SARR
>>212593433did you even bother to read the news article? its literally doing worse than marvels
>>212594429Why do Europeans want to be Aryans so badly? Or was it just Hitler? Fucking British invented the Aryan invasion theory saying the Aryans came to India 3 thousand years ago from Eurassia to justify their colonization.
>>212593507Try more like $450 million
>>212593378 (OP)Chinks are incapable of understanding a film about a man who helps other people just because he can
>>212594526Doing worse than marvels and the flash.
>>212594282Man of Steel?
>5.9 million opening>63.4 million total box officeSuperjew is fucking DOA in China
>>212594599That's too low like the last Captain America movie without Captain America. Mutts and Latinos will earn some money.
>>212594599With 363 million budget, could this be the biggest DC flop?
>>212594526>>212594622In Germany box office. Superman will make more domestically than The Marvels did worldwide.
>>212593680Yep. Always have, always will.
>>212593735wh*tes take plenty of ride in that
>WB just allowed the guy behind the Barbie marketing to fuck off and leave the studio instead of putting him to work on your biggest 2025 blockbuster>Released it in a massively packed period and refused to change the date because it's Gunn's dead dad's birthday >Greenlit multiple movies connected to said movie without waitingZaslav is putting a gun in some executives mouth by Monday at this rate
>>212594282MoS did good in China, BvS slightly less so and surprisingly Justice League 2017 did actually quite good with a $100M+ BO but I think that was in that era before China realised they could just shill their own movies instead
>Man of Steel's three largest countries after North America are China ($63.4 million), the United Kingdom, Ireland and Malta ($46.2 million) and Australia ($22.3 million).[163]
>>212594695It all depends on how big a drop it has next weekend. Most are admitting as it stands now it'll struggle to hit 600. If it suffers a major drop it'll absolutely land somewhere around 450 and 500. Total flop lmao
>>212593378 (OP)>Get WokeWarner has a simple job, see the flaws of the MCU and bring something new, something that has never been seen in the MCU
Reports already saying it will pick up after previews just like how itโs picking up in US once reviews were released. People were not interested in another Superman movie and thus is pure brand recovery. Batman Begins had to do the same thing after Batman and Robin tanked the brand. Begins had a mediocre opening weekend but grew legs. It only made 370 million
>>212593378 (OP)I don't see this beating Black Adam. Littybros will be vindicated
>>212593378 (OP)Capeshit is finally dead.
So this is the best that DC cucks can muster huh? Lol. How embarrassing. Answer this. Is it better than Iron Man (2008)? No? Then you've failed. Is it even better than Superman (1978)? No? Then you've failed. You will never compete with the MCU, you will never reach Avengers Endgame levels. YOU HAVE FAILED. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Just stop embarrassing yourselves already ffs.
>>212593378 (OP)WB wasted all shilling budget on 4chan shit posting and forgot about the real chink market, lmao.
Also lmao at dom projections. Second weeks is going to get a massive drop because the movie is dogshit.
>>212594599Actually more like 120 million
>>212594706Holy cope
The budget is 799 million
>>212594963Those were different times, anon, superhero movies are massively frontloaded these days. I'm sure it will do fine domestically, but internationally it's not looking good, aside from UK.
>>212595048>I care about the success or failure of a superhero movie
>>212595051All the non-shill reviews are also vomiting, most of them being mixed to negative.
>>212594874When's Man of Steel 2, Army of the Dead 2 and the next Rebel Moon dropping, jeeter?
>>212595168All reviews are negative 100%
>>212595048It's also worse than MoS. This flick doesn't even have a coherent plot.
>>212594874Hope so. BvS had steep second-weekend box office drop-off and Justice League had disastrous opening weekend.
>>212595190Once you stop raising your wife's kid.
>>212593378 (OP)>China coming in with a clutchI cannot imagine what it's like to be so brainwormed you actually type this because you're mad at a movie.
>>212595190>jeeterwhiter than you
And they're coming soon! I just need to buy a few more handfuls of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition with IMAX shots restored in 4k!
>>212593378 (OP)Is China the whole overseas market? They stopped being a factor for superhero movies long ago
>>212593378 (OP)>Flash was rated higher than GotG3 in Japan and higher than Aquaman in ChinaWhy did they like it so much?
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>>212593378 (OP)Yeah, everyone knows that would happen. Only americans like this kind of campy silver age shlock.
>>212593643>Superman eyes โน40 Cr ($4.6M) weekend at Indian box officeSAAAAAAAAARS
>>212593378 (OP)The box office won't matter, it'll do good enough to not be a failure, problem is the latter projects that I'm sure NO ONE will give two fucks about, like Supergirl, that's when it'll become a problem, they might speedrun to a Justice League movie to keep the interest going but I doubt that will do anything
Something that might generate better hype is including Pattinson's Batman there
Thing is that Gunn had an egomaniac attitude in the MCU where he didn't want to play ball with the others, and I'm 100% sure he's doing the same here, doubt he cares about the actual DCU at all, he just wants to make his own slop
>>212593974>People love and respect America and President Trump,
Sooooooooo if Superman flops with a meh or bad $500M to $600M BO do you think WB would force The Batman to be part of the Gunn Universe or would it be more like the old WB with Returns where it makes them actively avoid Batman stuff outside of the "Core" Batman/Reeves movies?
Not even a huge dick sucker for this movie (I think it's largely overrated) but being forced to be part of Gunn's stupid campy Silver Age universe would completely undermine it IMO
>>212594359>Jewish-created character designed to be the jewish messiah portrayed by jewish actor does well in America
>>212595907It's also doing well in Latin america, what gives
>>212595857Nah if this flops Warner will go on panic mode and start meddling like they always do
>>212593974>People love and respect America and President Trump
>>212595897Batman needs to be kept separate from the rest of the DC characters. He works better in his own little world. If you don't, you end up in a situation like BvS where Superman has to act like a complete retard so that Batman can win, or JL where Batman is completely useless.
>>212595943Hispanics are rape babies who were forced to adopt the religion, culture and language of their conquerors. They have no pride or dignity so they're fine with jewish-american slop. Hell, they all dream of becoming american.
>>212595943Latinos love capeshit, DC in particular.
>>212596037What about vietnam? Superman is currently number there
>>212596258Brazilians, specifically.
>>212595857>The box office won't matter>i-i-i-it doesn't have to break even!Now that's a /co/pe
Clearly they should have used Chinese Superman to get the China market.
Funny enough, I think these books sold like shit in China when DC tried to break in then and it pissed off all the Chinese Americans who hate the CCP in their homeland they escaped from.
>The "SUPERMAN WILL HIT $1 BILLION IT'S LOCKED IN" crowd on reddit are all committing seppuku and/or blaming it on Trump and Israel
keeeeeeeeeeeeek
>>212595857>The box office won't matter, it'll do good enough to not be a failureHah-hah-hah, trannies already starting damage control with the $363 million budget blockbuster.
>>212594706>363 millionNo way, it looks like a fucking TV movie. Where did the money go? Also, is this with or without marketing, because that is always another 100 million
>>212596762It's the production budget. Those summer blockbuster movies never come cheap.
>>212596529It would be funny if they did what Hollywood would do for Spanish speaking audiences back in the 30's and make literally the exact same movie but with a Mexican cast. From all regards the Spanish version of the 31 Dracula is considered to be superior to the Lugosi version, it's just lacking Lugosi as Dracula and Frye as Renfield.
>>212596380>Currently 21,403 tickets sold>Vietnam population: 100,000,000Whoa, it's definitely setting the country on fire!
>>212596529Ironically Snyder's smartest business idea was probably that Chinese helmed Atom movie he pitched and set up in Justice League and wanted it to be helmed almost entirely by Chinese production staff.
Genuinely would have been a way for WB to get their foot in the door in that market and would have sold shitloads in china obviously
>>212597694>a Spanish language Superman film for MexicansWouldn't that just be a Dragon Ball Z movie?
>>212596762>meanwhile in 2013
>>212597629Spider-man 2 budget was something like that (200 million at the time but I bet the inflation would put at nearly 300) but there was so much happening in that, most of Superman happens in quarries (like good old Tokusatsus), Lois apt., two streets in Metropolis and the Fortress which is basically one room.
Same for The Flash, the only great setpiece was the Batcave, everything else was somebody's room/house or a desert.
>>212597848Snyder is a faggot but give him money and he knows how to do CGI right.
>>212596037and americans want to be mexican
>>212593378 (OP)if it does less than MOS it's a huge bomba
>In terms of openings on Wednesday, France was a No. 1 start at $1.3M including previews and ahead of a long weekend for Bastille Day; the debut is 3% above Thunderbolts and also over the most recent Venom and Aquaman movies (+8%). The cume through Thursday is $1.8M.
France loves it. Kind of weird
This will do like 300M+ less than Oppenheimer.
>>212598096You're practically a millionaire in Mexico with a few dollars. That's why there are tons of Americans moving down there
>>212595897There's no good solution to this. Excluding your most popular character from the extended universe you're trying to create is going to undermine the extended universe to some extent, continuing it as its own thing leads to multiple continuities running simultaneously and makes it seem like you have no confidence in the new movies, and making one version for the DCU and running it simultaneously with the Reeves version is just competing with yourself.
The Reeves movie honestly should never have been made. If you won't make a Batman solo movie with the guy who's already playing Batman and also happens to be a legit A-list director, why the fuck would you greenlight a Batman solo movie with a different Batman in it? And if you were thinking about blowing up the DCEU why wouldn't you wait until you knew what you wanted to do with the next version before doing anything with one of the major characters who would be part of any reboot? The Battinson movie didn't fit into their present *or* future plans. It's like they just did it on a whim and completely forgot they already had Batman at home.
Now they have to bury it and waste whatever potential it had, make it part of a universe where it clearly doesn't belong and waste whatever potential it had, or let it exist as some side project that distract from what they're trying to do with everything else and confuses the plebs. It's a fucked up situation but you let delusional coke fiends run your business and this is what you get. Welter Hamada fucked them for years to come.
>>212597948The Flash was filmed in one city and on a soundstage. There was no actual desert locations because of a COVID travel ban. They couldnโt even go to a real American home to shoot Barryโs parentsโ houseโs scenes because they were stuck in the UK, so they found a plot of land and built an entire fake American suburbia street.
>>212598512>The Reeves movie honestly should never have been made. >It's like they just did it on a whim and completely forgot they already had Batman at home.I agree 100% with you here, no matter how good (or bad, I personally think it was mediocre) is The Batman, it makes no sense. The Joker was a small weird project that had nothing to do with anything else but The Batman is a weird one to me, not having him interact with Gunn's DCU now is even worse.
But to be honest, DC was always this mess in the comics too. Crisis on Infinite Earths was the first time they tried to fix this and now they need a reboot every few years because they cannot stop making alternative universe for their heroes and worse, mixing them in dumb ways with the main continuity to the point nobody ever knows what is happening on DC.
>>212598956>But to be honest, DC was always this mess in the comics too. Crisis on Infinite Earths was the first time they tried to fix this and now they need a reboot every few years because they cannot stop making alternative universe for their heroes and worse, mixing them in dumb ways with the main continuity to the point nobody ever knows what is happening on DC.Ironically the MCU leaned hard into the multiverse after the Endgame with mostly negative results but they got away with bringing back Wolverine. Resurrecting Tony Stark and Captain America will be disastrous for the MCU. Marvel usually focused on the main continuity (Earth-616).
>>212598130Every normal, non-bug, country loves when Israel gets shitted on.
>>212596762That looks awful, holy shit
If you are hoping this movie bombs you obviously donโt like Superman. It will not restore your gay Snyderverse. All it will mean is Superman canโt sell anymore. Theyโve done every variation, from Donner like Superman Returns to โdark abd grittyโ MOS to the campy Superman in this movie. Superman will most likely just be related to CW garbage
>>212597985He should do a DBZ movie.
>>212597848>>212597985I remember when this movie came out, people were shitting on the fight scenes because they were "too anime Dragon Ball Z". As if that's a fucking bad thing.
>>212597848You know it's good because everything is grey
I'm actually a Snyder defender in a lot of cases but his color grading lived down to the meme sometimes.
>>212597985everything about this is confusing
>>212593599>behind Brad Pitt's F1lol, ahistorical movie about toy cars is better
>>212600109The whole scene is even worse. CGI is cursed in this movie just like in The Flash (well, Gunn hired the same guy)
>>212593439We just hate you disguting dirty sub race of indian shitskins shitting up our board with your profound mental retardation
$0.49MIL?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ITS A FLOP!
>>212600716I can tell this talking point if only being shilled by snyderpajeets, because everyone else knows Gunn has worked with the same cinematographer for years and that it was Flash who happened to use the same one
>>212596762Bollywood made better cgi 10 years ago, this shit is just money laundering
>>212600138Superman has never sold well, at least not in the last several decades. Snyderfags and Gunnfags can have their shit flinging contests all day long but it doesn't matter who made the movie, Superman is not a marketable character to anyone except for American boomers.
>>212597985Zod is like the IDF:
Collateral damage? There is no such thing.
>>212601102> Superman is not a marketable character to anyone except for American boomers.Pretty much the case it seems m. Singer at height of his X Men popularity couldnโt get Superman to sell. Synder coming off Watchman and with Nolan involved couldnโt get Superman to sell. If Gunn coming off MCU and Guardians height canโt do it, itโs over for Supernan, atleast solo movies. If Supergirl does well, theyโll likely team him up with her or with other DC characters with a much smaller budget
>>212600893"superman needs help to win every fight" is also being spammed across multiple sites. I've no idea if its really Snyder paying for it but it's not subtle at all.
>>212597985the direction is awful and all Snyder does is turn down the colour saturation to make the CGI cheaper to get photoreal-looking.
>>212601317Kek cope, he does need Krypt and Mr T in every fight
>>212601317Either way itโs antiโs fomenting their established talking points based in untruths that even people who havenโt seen the movie will be able to latch onto
My predictions for July were
>Jurassic World biggest worldwide
>Superman biggest in the US
>Fantastic Flop biggest embarassment
>>212595592Based Snyderchad dabbing on Gunn redditors
Fucking cope harder this is already making bank
>>212601265Singer made a boring movie
Snyder made incoherent edgelord
If you transported the James gunn superman movie back to 2013 and it came out instead of man of steel
>>212593460The ones with neckbeards and <30% bodyfat
I don't even care anymore. Did I even care? Some a the best alcoholic beverage stores are run by poo streets
Never in my 15 years in this shitboard saw so much nitpicking over the box office of some fucking slop. Are the people posting these threads invested on this movie?
>>212603717The last 30m of Singer's flick feel like 1000 years...
>>212604754>Never in my 15 years in this shitboard saw so much nitpicking over the box office of some fucking slop.fake oldfag
we easily had way more talk about box office shit with Captain Marvel and when Endgame tried to beat Avatar
>>212593844>This is probably the worst time in history to release a superhero movie and expect it to do well internationally.I fixed your typo
>UPDATED FRIDAY MIDDAY: Warner Bros/DC Studiosโ Superman is looking at a great $55M first day, including all those $22.5M previews. This puts the James Gunn directed movie on course as of this minute for a $115M+ 3-day. The weekend is still young, and thereโs room for upside. Some are spotting $120M.
https://deadline.com/2025/07/box-office-superman-1236454805/
This is the same site had it rejected at making 90 million its opening weekend
>>212604917The Marvels box office was hilarious too.
>>2126050244M less than MoS
>>212596762This scene reminds me exactly of the graphics in a PS2 Baseball game I played.
>>212596291Wow that's impressive
>>212605024The Pajeets are never gonna recover...
>>212605085Funniest was how Wikipedia acted for that
>>212605024Weekend estimates getting lower and lower from $130 million to $115 million.
> Sean Gunn, who plays Maxwell Lord in the film, stood up for his brother and emphasized that immigrants are integral to the fabric of America.>โMy reaction to [the backlash] is that it is exactly what the movie is about,โ he said. โWe support our people, you know? We love our immigrants. Yes, Superman is an immigrant, and yes, the people that we support in this country are immigrants and if you donโt like that, youโre not American. People who say no to immigrants are against the American way.โ
>>212596762>oh no, nanobots in my eyes!>if only I had some type of eyeball based super power (which I just used 30 seconds earlier) to stop them!
>>212605228Retarded Jeet.
>>212593378 (OP)Chinkshit like Ne Zha flops over here. So why wouldnโt our folklore flop in China?
>>212605210How tf was joker budget $200M?
>>212605210The left made the Marvels the hill to die on in the culture war. The leftists staunchly held on half a year until an article in one of the Penske media outlets declared the Marvels the biggest commercial bomb in history.
>>212595592>>212602315Is this sincere? Are you actually adults being truthful about this?
What happened to the world?
>>212605337Phoenix and Phillips asked for $50 million each. Gaga was like $20 million. The remaining $80 went into the actual movie.
120 opening weekend is solid for Superman. Especially since he isnโt very popular anymore and damaged goods. And with good word of mouth itโs doubtful itโll have 69% its second weekend. Maybe like 55-60
>>212596762https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziQdOqT5xU&pp=ygUMcHMyIHN1cGVybWFu0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD
>>212600893I don't remember GotG or even duh Suicide Squad overusing horrible wide lens shots, but it was all over the place in The Flash and it's all over the place in Gunnperman
>>212593378 (OP)why does china love israel so much?
is this a new development?
>>212605629Not Israel. Superman is American. They donโt like America because โRee Orange Manโ
>>212594142>in the USReally? How many Mexicans will be willing to take their kids to go watch this while ICE raids are going on?
>>212605532Guess you werenโt paying attention then because itโs there
>>212605024My projection remains, final box office will be 400-500 million
>>212606691>>212606972Oh well. Just the latest chapter in the JUST saga
>>212606972Bon jour, saar
>>212606972Is "Dragons" supposed to be How to Train Your Dragon?
>>212595689Ezra looks vaguely Asian. Heโs also not afraid to punch a woman.
>>212606972Itโs # 1 in France. It was only previews yesterday
>>212607128also probably the dubbing makes the movie better, heโs got a jewish-valleygirlvocalfry-lisping ahh voice
Jeets arenโt boycotting it after all
>>212607508All that extra work paid off
>>212607508oh god...it is literally like a nuke got dropped on the jeets.
>>212607128>not afraid to punch a woman.Thats because he believes he is one...
>>212593378 (OP)I don't think a movie about a guy who literally flies above any other authority is some the bugmen would like. Superheros are heavy on individualism andbteh secular ideals of america. China is a culture of conformity, they have no tolerance for that shit.
>>212608265>secular ideals of americaJudeo ideals.
So it's literally up to him to save the superhero genre?
>>212608478This nigga is gonna bomb so fucking hard...which is a shame because F4 looks watchable.
>>212600807So you keep making threads about it?
>>212593460>It's a movie for kikes, goys and subhumanFTFY, jew
>>212608478I really wanted FF to be good but everything I saw this far is pure garbage, there is no way this shit is gonna fly
>>212595897Reaves and Pattison would just walk
Justice League had a 300m budget and it was a mega failure for making just under 700m
>>212609343Especially if those leaks are true
>>212610305The leaks show an absolute boring movie, there is not interesting happening. It seems Marvel is betting on the family dynamic but the actors are lacking chemistry in the fucking trailers, also in this age nobody has/care about family anymore. Above all that I can't accept Pascal as Reed, fucker could have shaved or went full beard, that Narcos mustache is killing me.
>>212610774I meant that girl boss stuff and that was why so many other actors opted out
>>212595047they wont stop
capeshit is the easiest movie theme to farm
>>212595983>If you don't, you end up in a situation like BvS where Superman has to act like a complete retard so that Batman can win, or JL where Batman is completely useless.this, they can never balance the power difference between the superheroes in DC
>>212610908Goddamn yes there is this too. Sue is reported to be the lead, she was always the weakest link in the comics, not for being a woman but for being boring. Her being fierce as a mom is fine, but being the girl boss leader of the team fucks the whole dynamic. The actors that refused the roles are a huge red flag too.
They just need to stop doing โprojectionsโ
>>212605210at one point the Wikipedia page for this had more references than the page for the ancient city of Babylon. absolutely demented shit
>>212605210Kek both Captain Marvel movies were source for many discussions. Remember that Rotten even changed their system to save that pile of shit? What a day that was.
When all they need to hit one billion was picrel.
>>212610225Well here Wb changed the game, they said their goal is not money but to regain trust in dc so it is a victory anyway.
whats up wither superman living in a giant crystal
>>212593507>>212594599more like little mermaid at about $550M
>>212611824And women think theyโre not a protected class
>>212613833nta
was 550m a good box office figure for mermaid?
>>212593507WB only wants 500 million for it as a minimum for โsuccessโ
>>212593460they didn't like this post kek
>>212613958These movies have retarded budgets so no
I want to say that maybe it has something to do with the fact that the movie has a sort of leftist sentiment to it, but most people are probably going off first impressions and know nothing about the film, so it's hard to calculate why the film isn't do well internationally
I guess international audiences just don't care for superman very much anymore
>>212614223>I guess international audiences just don't care for superman very much anymoreFirst, the trailers and clips didn't look very good (im being very polite)
>>212602075>antiโsTrying too hard .
Good
This jew shit deserves nothing less
>>212614223>I guess international audiences just don't care for superman very much anymoreThis is exactly it. No matter how much people want to blame Snyder for "ruining" Superman the simple fact is that he just isn't a very popular character in this day and age. Well known, absolutely but name recognition alone isn't enough to make a character popular or profitable. It doesn't matter if he's portrayed as gritty and realistic or hopeful and goofy; Superman doesn't translate well to well to film. If DC was smart they would give up on the pipe dream of trying to have a cinematic universe to Marvel's and focus on animation, which is one the mediums that actually work for Superman.
>cumskins are hating on this level of kino
>>212593378 (OP)Trump ruined Superman doing well in foreign markets.
>>212593533there has been 50 threads already so 4chungus likes it too
>>212614731Indians don't count.
>>212593599Gunn said that is bs and budget is only 225 million
>>212614657The haters are jews
>>212614858Jewish movie.
Cry more chudcel.
>>715228146kek
im half way through and it's a fucking quip fest
the only two good decisions so far
>not an origin story>superman is dumb as a bag of bricks as in canon comics
>>212593460muttkino you mean. You arenโt even close to white ameribro. Your dick is mutilated bro lol youโre like one step behind a troon
>>212614821Plus marketing
>>212613958Half a billion dollars in tickets isn't a bomb but it would have made at least 2x more with regular casting
>>212614858This. The jews hate this movie because there is a clear anti-israel message. And jeets also hate it because they love jews/Israel.
>>212615254what's funnier is that jeets are the victims in this movie
Gunn made them comic palestinians
>>212614657This looks like AI slop
Also slow mo is longer than Snyder one, lmao
Good thing that I didn't pay the money for this garbage
>>212614858>The haters are pajeets... and jews! Aaand chinks! Right. It seems WB broke the bots cause they make no sense.
>>212615254>>212615374There's no way you're this delusional.
>How do we make superman interesting?
>i know, make him lose to a literallywho and give him a dog
they tried their best but still failed
ZZZuperman
>>212593680>Every American thing is a geopolitical statement because it's AmericanNigger stfu
>>212593680how do you know if those short term atrocities aren't for long term good?
>>212615721it's been 80 years since WW2 and look where it got us
>>212593378 (OP)Chinks don't wanna watch Jewish actors pretend to be ubermensch, simple
>>212593378 (OP)China is still busy dealing with the trauma of the tranny mass rapist to enjoy a movie
>>212593460No, Whites stand for Israel, the jewel of the Middle East. Everyone who dislikes Israel is seething and brown.
>>212593599Are even normalfags tired of superheroes these days?
>>212616325kek, i keep seeing this image
qrd?
>>212616448He raped thousands of chinese twinks who thought he was a woman
>>212616489how did they not take his pants off and immediately see he wasn't a woman?
>>212613958Pretty much broke even.
So not a total flop but still a failure since this is not the business of breaking even
>>212596291It's literally a country of 10 million people nigga
>>212614657and people called this
>>212597985 confusing
>>212593378 (OP)I donโt care about what the chinese do and donโt watch.
>>212599891Bug countries (westerners) are the only Israel cocksuckers in the world lol
>>212595773That's a man ain't it?
>>212614858>>212615254You realize Superman was made by two kikes right? Kal-El is literally an hebrew word.
>>212593378 (OP)I am a white European with no interest in watching American superheroes. You all have a criminal as president and you think we give a fuck about your idea of heroism? Get the fuck out. I don't give a fuck about who is in the movie, or who made the movie
>>212618429> white EuropeanBongs arenโt white anymore
>>212616617Women can have dicks too chud
>>212613958Yes, but barely. 240 million budget not counting marketing which is probably another 100million. Those movies are not worth the effort.
>>212593974Delusional Migger
MoS opening weekend is 128m so if Gunn canโt beat then heโs in for a world of trouble. Which will be met with โSnyder ruining the brandโ but the distance between this movie and Cavillโs last (true) appearance is longer than the distance between MoS and Returns.
>>212619109MoS also did way better internationally. They can't even call this fastest grossing Superman movie lol
>>212619109> MoS opening weekend is 128m It made 116 million domestically and 200 million worldwide in four days which included 3D showings so fuck off with muh adjusted for inflation. 3D Imax was $16 dollars!!! I saw John Carter in 3D Imax
Box Office trackers for the UK say the movie looks like it will underperform compared to Man of Steel if this keeps up with the best case looking like 15 Million quid compared to 17 Million for MoS and absolute shit tier reading putting it as low as 9 Million quid based on Australian numbers which often match UK markets
Both Australia and the UK were some of MoS's biggest international markets
>>212614223how about the movie looks like it is made for straight to dvd
>can't even beat 2013 MoS despite 40% inflation
OH NO NO NO NO GUNNJEETS WE LOST
>>212619133She stole the show in every scene. It's jarring how not one character in Gunn's Superman has half of the charisma and screen presence a seconday villain like Faora did.
>>21261708710 times that, dude
>>212619222$116m is true Friday-Saturday-Sunday, they didn't record previews back in 2013 like they do now and MOS collected $12m
>>212619133>People constantly said they wanted the Flash's powers to be like the Kryptonians moving super quick>Barely any movies outside of a few bits in ZSJL use this type of speedster movement >Flash movie never uses it on top of looking like a PS2 gameStill mad
>>212616617they did, they just "fuck it, lets do it". he paid some of them though. also Chinese have very low self respects, they will compromise anything over money
>>212619481So itโs gonna be 13M less than MoS not 1M? Because these numbers keep including previews. Shit thatโs pretty bad and yes, inflation is relevant here due to how fucked up it got in 2021-2022. Do people just choose to be retarded about it? Thereโs not a valid reason to disregard it
>>212593974>People love and respect America and President Trump, just a year ago everyone was laughing at Biden and America, now everyone knows we're fucking back.Lmao you are joking right?
>>212595857>Go from underperforming superman movie immediately into Justice League>AGAINoh Lord am I laughing
>>212595897Why are they trying to make a universe to begin with? The idea has been done for 7 years. Focus on making a good SUPERMAN film.
>>212619789>a little bit of history repeating
>>212619789It's like poetry it rhymes
>>212614657Subtlety is simply not in James Gunn vocabulary
>>212593378 (OP)>Australia and the UK were the other big markets for MoS back in the dayI'm an Ausfag and I haven't heard much buzz about it from any of the slop enjoyers I know and usually they just got he cinema just to see something.
>>212596762This cannot be real, holy shit. And people thought the floating negro head in Thor was bad.
>>212593378 (OP)>outdoing MoS adjusted for inflation>>212619523>and yes, inflation is relevant here due to how fucked up it got in 2021-2022"Adjusted for inflation" is the biggest brainlet meme of all time. You do not adjust for inflation when comparing movie successes, you still just do it the traditional way. Money made - money spent.
>B-b-b-b-but inflation means money is m-It goes both ways, retard. The change of value in the box office means that it's also a change in value of the production. A dollar spent producing a movie in 2013 is not the same as a dollar spent producing a movie in 2025. They both changed the same way.
>>212619419I love this French lady
>>212620337Ok this had twice the budget of MoS.
>>212620337>Copy pasting arguments againWBSHILL DETECTED
Everyone hide that post and move on if we're lucky night in India will come soon and he'll go to bed
>>212593378 (OP)>chinknaIrrelevant market
>>212620374Alright, so it needs to make more money to make up for that disparity and be as successful.
Just don't talk about muh inflation. It's a brainlet meme.
>>212620391Joke's on you. I just woke up and it's 10:54 AM here. I will be taking a siesta on the afternoon, though, as is my right.
>>212593378 (OP)Superman will make a billion dollars.
>>212594142>DinokinoCritical flop, it's dinoslop lmao
>>212596762That's fuckung terrible. Competency crisis
>>212593378 (OP)>It doesn't have to beat Black Adam's box office*slurp*
>>212620337>MOS budge should be around 300-400M adjusted for inflation >960 gross adjustedWhat now retard. Go lecture me again about numbers you pathetic marketing shill, i run circles around you and can even make projections on how much money your shitty movie will lose
>>212596762"The Mummy 2 scorpion king" and "Neo vs 100 Smiths" -tier CGI.
>>212593530I think the Chinese are going through a cultural shift where they understand that as they ascend to the top that they can't let themselves become like retarded Americans. The whole CGI slopfest gimmick entertained them for awhile because many of them had grown up in rural villages but when you've seen one of these films you've seen them all. It'll be interesting to see of China truly abandons Hollywood and rises above the garbage that is now American cinema.
Of course, we all know that India can't and won't, so the US will always have jeets to profit off of.
>>212593460>obese amerimutt redditors>whitepick one
>>212619523I live in India, the ticket prices more than doubled after Covid. Still remember watch Joker 2019 morning show for 70 rupees which is less than a dollar. Now even morning shows cost 180+
>>212593378 (OP)>and even outdoing MoS adjusted for inflation looks to be near unobtainable nowIf the movie bombs overseas then it's a complete failure.
>>212593599>the $363 million budgetThe hell? I thought the entire point of the reboot was to reduce costs and make the movies for cheap.
>>212620851God it's sad how much more kino both of those were than any slop from the past decade.
>>212621557Considering wb has superman in a high ground (despite wonder woman and aquaman outgrossing him) they probably threw in all the cash they could into this movie. Now it looks even worse than the flash and i dont trust the reviews given most of them are women
>>212619419I watched old Superman recently and it's amazing how well they cast the actress for Faora.
MoS casting was 10/10.
>>212608265What about... ugh... the whole fucking MCU untill Endgame?
>>212620337We have to play the dumb inflation meme with box office because studios don't disclose actual ticket sales
>>212608265>he hasn't watched Ne Zha 2, THE smash success in ChinaOh no no no...
>>212621853Don't tell him that Tony Stark is so popular over here there are fucking knockoff Tony Starks played by chinamen in adverts.
>>212593378 (OP)I'm in the UK and was at the cinema yesterday to see 28 Years Later with some friends and it was also the Superman debut. Place was dead.
>>212593433It won't. Stop coping. This shit costed 450-500 million USD to make
>>212593378 (OP)The RT score is misleading. Most reviews just actually mean "it's fine", but a lot of people are not particularly excited about Superman, because it's a nice comic book adaption but a terrible stand-alone movie, even Schafrillas thinks it's the worst James Gunn cbm. But because everyone is desperate for this movie to succeed, people will murder you if you don't believe this is a 10/10 masterpiece, so nobody dares telling the truth about why the box office is going this way
Truth, justice and the Muslim way
>>212623011All the non-shill reviews have come out and most of them are mixed to negative. Many are claiming MoS was better.
>>212623159I literally just streamed mos again instead of going to watch this shit. The kansas fight scene is so much better than this cgislop shit
>>212614657I think I lost brain cells watching whatever retardation that is.
>>212593460maybe its a movie for Karen
that would explain why the white male "protagonist" is constantly jobbing so that other characters can rescue him and why the movie features some "super smart black guy" and yet another girlboss that literally screams like a bird
>>212614657This shit makes Spy Kids CGI look like 2001.
>>212614657What in the fuck am I looking at
>>212593439>Please stop deriving self worth from the success of business ventures you have no part inThis movie needs to do well to justify its sequels and the continuing of Gunn's DCU. This is why its important that it makes its money. Remember, WB was notorious for getting cold feet and switching gears if a movie didn't meet their expectations.