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Misery Porn
Post movies that are purely made of anguish, despair, misery and unrelenting bleakness.
Anonymous No.212608167 >>212611259 >>212624662
Anonymous No.212608541 >>212608594 >>212611377 >>212622947 >>212623906
How do you even get an erection in a dank underpass, anyway?
Anonymous No.212608587 >>212639061
>>212608082 (OP)
Did you watch the whole movie?
Anonymous No.212608594
>>212608541
Bellucci’s big ol’ butt might help
Anonymous No.212608811 >>212608882 >>212630436 >>212635931
>>212608082 (OP)
This is a great one I never see people mention. It’s not like Martyrs or anything, more like Prisoners perhaps. A fine performance from Jack and very under-appreciated.
8MM with Cage is also good.
I think Dear Zachary is the worst experience I’ve had because it’s actually real so the helplessness isn’t just a story.
Anonymous No.212608867 >>212611566
Dogville is misery porn that at some point crosses a line and becomes black comedy.
And I believe the director was fully aware of it
Anonymous No.212608882 >>212611259 >>212619864 >>212628451
If you want more Eurocentric misery porn, watch this Brit flick. It's unrelentingly bleak as is expected from living in modern England.
>>212608811
Thanks for this recommendation. Looks very interesting.
Anonymous No.212608896 >>212609085
That fucking Aussie flick β€œSnowtown”. Based on true events too. I don’t get depressed or disturbed by movies very often and people tend to hyperbolise the impact of a film but my god was that straya shit bleak
Anonymous No.212608960 >>212613414 >>212627065 >>212628451
Anonymous No.212608964 >>212628451
An all-time favorite movie of mine but damn I can’t watch it too often because it is absolutely soul crushing.
Anonymous No.212609026 >>212609134
Anonymous No.212609085 >>212609134 >>212609374 >>212612746 >>212623058
This one was great. It wasn't comically dark or miserable but the scene where PSH broke down crying because of his father hit me very hard. It's an excruciating sight seeing a man cry. Plus, everything goes wrong for everyone involved and it's very realistic in its setting and event transpiring.
>>212608896
Give me the rundown on that. What's the deal?
Anonymous No.212609129
a serbian film
martyrs
Anonymous No.212609134
>>212609085
>>212609026
I miss PSH.
Anonymous No.212609188 >>212620377
There's only two actual actors in this entire movie and the rest are actual Naples natives and gangsters. It paints a very grim and bleak picture of how hopeless these South Italians are and how demonic the Camorra mafia in Europe is. They kill just as much and just as brutally as drug cartels but nobody knows outside of Europe.
Anonymous No.212609226 >>212620100 >>212627174 >>212628451
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Anonymous No.212609280 >>212609351 >>212612308 >>212620107
This fits the bill.
Anonymous No.212609315 >>212609824 >>212623409
/thread
Anonymous No.212609351 >>212609488 >>212609725 >>212612308 >>212616699
>>212609280
This is a valid answer but it's such an edgelord nihilist-fest that I can't take it as seriously as I do something like picrel
Anonymous No.212609374
>>212609085
I'm 35 and I've seen a shit ton of fucked shit and just movies in general but for a mainstream movie this one was really miserable, like impressively so.
Anonymous No.212609436 >>212609477
>>212608082 (OP)
the best part about this movie was that he got away with it
Anonymous No.212609467 >>212612802
>>212608082 (OP)
>anguish, despair, misery and unrelenting bleakness
ass to ass comes to mind
Anonymous No.212609477 >>212609511 >>212609514 >>212609518 >>212609591
>>212609436
but he didn't? he was literally killed early into the movie
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Anonymous No.212609488 >>212609564 >>212628306
>>212609351
>edgelord nihilist-fest
True but that's what it sets out to do and it actually does it in a much more plausible and palpable way than a lot of other movies. It is eerily realistic to life. So many men roam the streets burdened by wasted lives and quiet desperation like the Butcher. It stuck with me because my uncle had a lot of the same problems as the MC in that movie. Thanks for recommending Angst. I'll check it out. Lots of good movies in this thread. I'll chip in with this. It's directed by Gary Oldman. It's 10/10.
Anonymous No.212609511 >>212609591
>>212609477
Nah, he kills the wrong guy. Watch again.
Anonymous No.212609514 >>212609591
>>212609477
they killed the wrong guy, he was standing laughing
Anonymous No.212609518
>>212609477
LOL
Anonymous No.212609556 >>212609999 >>212611682 >>212612308 >>212619886 >>212628451
Anonymous No.212609564 >>212609657
>>212609488
I just don't know what I'm supposed to get out of it that I don't already from just being familiar with the psychological profile of that sort of person, at least Buffalo 66 tackles a despicable person in an interesting and multifaceted way, even stuff like Mikey and Nikey or Naked deals with scum of the earth types that still lends them humanity, ISA is shit-tier Noe for me solely cos of how damn overbearing and one-dimensional it is
Anonymous No.212609591 >>212609624 >>212609626 >>212609756 >>212609904 >>212620574 >>212624218 >>212624293 >>212636041
>>212609477
>>212609514
>>212609511
Irreversible was close to being a stone cold classic rather than just a glorified shock flick if only they just cut out the gimmicks and told the story as it should've been: play it linearly but don't show the rape well into the end. Make the audience believe, like the two men, that they got justice only for the final scene to be the rape unedited and uncut, as the movie laughs in your face for believing for a second justice was served. Also, make it clear Alex was pregnant and the rapist killed her (she succumbed to her wounds) and the baby in her stomach to drive home the nuclear despair. Maybe even include a scene where the two men are told they killed the wrong man just before the rape at the end.
Anonymous No.212609624 >>212609703
>>212609591
I think it's better for her to live out her life like that, it's more depressing
Anonymous No.212609626 >>212609703
>>212609591
You want to Hollywood-ify Irreversible (as much as you could even do that) when it's perfectly impactful just the way it is
Anonymous No.212609657 >>212609783
>>212609564
You're trying to hold it up to American film styles and practices when it's a Eurofilm. One thing you'll notice is that Euro movies tend to be less dramaticized and stylized and more naturalistic/realistic. It may have felt one dimensional to you but it pretty much is showing you the life of an old man in France. It's definitely only fully appreciated if you're well versed in European style of filmmaking. Buffalo 66 is too whimsical sometimes and stylized to really hit, and that's by design. You can't compare the two. Apples and oranges. Naked is much closer to ISA than the other examples you posted.
Anonymous No.212609703 >>212609936 >>212609958 >>212624053
>>212609626
What on earth are you talking about? That's not Hollywoodizing it in any way. If anything, doing that would make the rape more disturbing in context and probably wouldn't have gotten the film made at all. You're completely wrong.
>>212609624
But she would've ID'ed the guy and that nullifies the whole point of the ending. Her succumbing to the wounds she suffered and never being able to identify her attacker is much more in line with the film's themes. Marcus and Pierre also go to jail for killing the wrong man like morons.
Anonymous No.212609725
>>212609351
This isn't that shocking of a movie in 2025. I'm sure it was in 1983 and it does have some novel filming techniques that I sure influenced a ton of things that came after, but I don't think it's as hard hitting as it would have been like 40 years ago.
Anonymous No.212609756 >>212609847
>>212609591
Nah, it’s pure euroschlock. The club is called the damn Rectum and the whole thing is mostly farcical and obviously fetishistic and exhibitionistic. It doesn’t take rape seriously and yet takes itself very seriously.
Anonymous No.212609783 >>212609871 >>212609947
>>212609657
I'm very familiar with European cinema as a whole, I wasn't even thinking of it in terms of American vs Euro when I just happened to namedrop a bunch of American films (and a Britbong one) by happenstance. All of this being said I'm not sure why context in this case makes my critiques less valid, it actually happens to be my perspective that a lot of european cinema suffers from his misery porn slant, but on the flipside some of the most nuanced most psychologically layered and riveting character studies and genre pieces have come out of there too. I'm well-versed in the filmmaking and ISA is cringe regardless
Anonymous No.212609824
>>212609315
Only saw it once as a teenager and stuck with me ever since. Incredibly impactful film that doesn't need to show gore or anything explicit
Anonymous No.212609847
>>212609756
True. I felt like it had the right idea for a great misery porn film but it was too stylized and schlocky, as you said, to properly take that idea to its most potent conclusion. It's something I've noticed with all of Noe's films. He's so close to touching something real but he always derails it with overstylizing everything to death.
Anonymous No.212609871 >>212610030 >>212624100
>>212609783
Also, "naturalism" in reference to Noe is meme-worthy, literally one of the most stylized filmmakers ever, this is the film where he includes a title card saying "THIS IS ABOUT TO GET VIOLENT, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO LEAVE THE CINEMA
Anonymous No.212609900 >>212619610 >>212620202 >>212635724
Anonymous No.212609904
>>212609591
there's a straight cut version
Anonymous No.212609936
>>212609703
You mean she would've ID'd the guy that was killed that wasn't him? Yeah, that would make it more tragic.
Anonymous No.212609947 >>212610027
>>212609783
If it is as you claim, I don't see what makes ISA "cringe" over any other European misery porn film. Euros show life as it is so it's not so much a problem as you say. They don't suffer from it. Their culture is just less infantilized, and they don't have the capital to waste on media that just numbs them to the facts of life. Plus, the entire system of filmmaking over there is more open to risky and more personal projects.
Anonymous No.212609958 >>212610068
>>212609703
Your idea was bad and your opinion on what would make for a β€œbetter movie” is stupid, nobody agrees with you, get over it you sperg.
Anonymous No.212609999
>>212609556
Leave zoomer
Anonymous No.212610027
>>212609947
A lot of European misery porn films ARE cringe, but the devil is in the details. People like the Butcher do exist, but I get nothing out of presenting them solely as they are (which you can't even say Noe does, his provocateur nature trumps any "objective" "some ppl rly just be like this" deal) without any compelling basis or psychological insight.
Anonymous No.212610030 >>212610078
>>212609871
It is naturalistic. I've seen the damn film. It's a lot more so than say Irreversible or any of this other works. It stands true for the rest but ISA is pretty tame in its stylization.
Anonymous No.212610068 >>212610104 >>212610217
>>212609958
You type like an American. That's more of a miserable fate than any of the movies here.
Anonymous No.212610078 >>212610153
>>212610030
I will agree it's *more* tame than everything he did going forward but just because we have shit like "10 minute rape scene Irreversible" and "most maximalist film ever made Enter the Void" to compare it to doesn't make it naturalistic.
Anonymous No.212610104
>>212610068
Tell that to Zod's snapped neck
Anonymous No.212610153 >>212610180
>>212610078
But it is, albeit not as much as I initially made it out to be. Good film, probably Noe's best given its straightforward and no (overt) meme schticks.
Anonymous No.212610180
>>212610153
We can agree to disagree.
Anonymous No.212610196 >>212610218 >>212610383 >>212623018
How was this not posted?
>4 hours of bleak suffocating misery which was made for that express purpose and then the director commited suicide after finishing it
It makes everything else posted here look like a Marvel movie.
Anonymous No.212610217
>>212610068
Are you actually this autistic or just goofing off and pretending to be retarded
Anonymous No.212610218 >>212622273
>>212610196
Basically every Bela Tarr or Lav Diaz movie
Anonymous No.212610287 >>212612308 >>212616699
How about this one? It could also go in a thread about films with the most human feces onscreen.
Anonymous No.212610383
>>212610196
>movie so bad you kill yourself after making it
compelling
Anonymous No.212610384
OI DID YOU BULLY ME FOOKIN BROTHER
Anonymous No.212610526 >>212612056 >>212624054
I mean, doesn't this count? It's just 2 hours of a poor, mentally ill skeleton being surrounded by demon people who revel in his misery, he is raped, humiliated, betrayed, discarded and then ultimately stabbed to death and dies in a pool of his own blood while being on death row and at the mercy of prison guards who raped him because he called them stupid on TV who get away with killing his only friend too.

I can't believe something this bleak and miserable is a DC Comics movie.
Anonymous No.212610578 >>212619204
Anonymous No.212611259
>>212608882
>>212608082 (OP)
>>212608167
Watch Submarino (2010)
Anonymous No.212611328 >>212612796 >>212619955
>>212608082 (OP)
My only memory is watching this late one night with my zoomer fwb recently and she got so turned on by the rape scene that we ended up having sex.

Nothing quite like fucking a hot 20 year old’s bubble butt while watching Monica Bellucci get assraped on screen lemme tell you.
Anonymous No.212611329
>>212608082 (OP)
Cursed film
Anonymous No.212611377
>>212608541
That guy who kinda walks in on them and walks away in the background is her ex.
Anonymous No.212611566
>>212608867
The first time I watch it, I put the volume off to pay attention to something else and forgot about the movie. When I looked back at the screen someone immediately started casually raping her again lol.
Anonymous No.212611682
>>212609556
>Still not available on blu ray in the US.
>Refuse to watch remake until I watch original
Anonymous No.212612056 >>212618363 >>212624054 >>212629714
>>212610526
So pointlessly miserable on every single level. Make an intro cartoon, but with no jokes in it. Cast comedian Tim Dillion for a bit part, but don’t let him improv anything funny. Be jukebox musical, have Phoenix sing way worse than he did in Walk The Line. Cast Gaga, delete most of her scenes. There’s grumpy pettiness weaved into everything.
Anonymous No.212612308 >>212613788 >>212622177
this one sucks
>>212609280
gaspar noe is a hack
>>212609351
this one is really good
>>212609556
dutch version is better
>>212610287
great movie, i was coughing in the cinema throughout
it's hard to find online
Anonymous No.212612746
>>212609085
Excelent movie. It really breaks you down.
Babel is also really bad, but I'm not sure if it's worth seeing, apart for the chink from Pacific Rim who appears completely naked.
Anonymous No.212612788
"it's so fucking over" the kino
Anonymous No.212612796
>>212611328
tell me more
Anonymous No.212612802 >>212613583 >>212613829 >>212615537 >>212630043
>>212609467
She got a good ending at least. She looked very happy.
lol had the brilliant idea of watching it with my mom and sister. So awkward...
Anonymous No.212613414
>>212608960
Underrated
Anonymous No.212613583
>>212612802
>with my mom and sister
Anonymous No.212613788
>>212612308
Just watched the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0YO6uhjhlk
Looks decent, I love taxi vignette movies. Hellcab is good but not really depressing.
Anonymous No.212613829 >>212617758 >>212630043
>>212612802
i marathoned gaspar noe's "trilogy" (carne, i stand alone, irreversible) with me mum. the 2nd film was a slog, but it all paid off with the next one...
you can only imagine how unpleasant the rape scene was
Anonymous No.212613842
>>212608082 (OP)
The Coffee Table
Anonymous No.212614828
The Road.
Anonymous No.212614851
>>212608082 (OP)
Martyrs
Anonymous No.212615275 >>212624048
The Chekist, AKA what happens when jews take over.
Anonymous No.212615320 >>212620165
>>212608082 (OP)
Anonymous No.212615370 >>212619933
1st film by the Serbian Film guy, this one is truly bleak and depressing, A Serbian Film crosses over into hilarious exploitation if you ask me.
Anonymous No.212615442 >>212622205
Anonymous No.212615454
Pretty much any 0% pussy DAP piss scene by Pornobox, Giorgio, LegalPorno and more,
Anonymous No.212615537
>>212612802
Do you think either of them have ever done anal? What did they say?
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Anonymous No.212615939 >>212636362
Anonymous No.212616116
>>212608082 (OP)
Nightcrawler
Anonymous No.212616175 >>212638625
This movie was produced by The Clinton Foundation and Alan Dershowitz. Script by Elizabeth Loftus.
Anonymous No.212616355 >>212624048
They were NOT playing around with this one...
Anonymous No.212616365
>>212608082 (OP)
Rented this VHS from the video store as a kid thinking I was getting a horror movie about an evil toy monkey, instead got the most depressing movie I’ve ever watched. It’s really good if you like super depressing movies, the ending stayed with me forever.
Anonymous No.212616391 >>212619397
>hey dad what were the 90’s really like?
Anonymous No.212616470
Man Bites Dog.
Anonymous No.212616699
>>212609351
this one is really entertaining and bone chilling, the killer is a great actor. I wish the director made more films

>>212610287
not that disturbing, feels more like reading a very detailed and depressing book, great use of black and white cinematography it wouldn't have worked in color
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Anonymous No.212617620
A film about a shit eating schozo hobo who murders people. It has subtle humor tho so it’s not totally depressing. I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF_K08hCf2U&pp=ygUUQ3JhenkgbXVyZGVyIHRyYWlsZXI%3D
Anonymous No.212617702 >>212619982 >>212628597
>>212608082 (OP)
>Post movies that are purely made of anguish, despair, misery and unrelenting bleakness.
Anonymous No.212617758
>>212613829
>i marathoned gaspar noe's "trilogy" (carne, i stand alone, irreversible) with me mum.

Anon why the fuck would you do that
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Anonymous No.212617852 >>212623129 >>212623862
>>212608082 (OP)
Jodie foster in the accused. Blew so many ropes to that Rape scene hnnngggf retarded whore deserved it. You gotta put up
Anonymous No.212617874
the last of us 2
Anonymous No.212618363 >>212624054
>>212612056
Literally punishment for liking him in 1 "you're not supposed to glorify the bad guy"

Getting admonished like a child. Making it a musical was part of the punishment.

>>212608082 (OP)
The Marathon Man
Anonymous No.212618373
I have many nigra frens which proves I’m not zionis- I mean racist.
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Anonymous No.212618990 >>212619148 >>212620375
>>212608082 (OP)
This film is one of the hardest I've ever watched. There's absolutely no catharsis. No divine or even circumstantial comeuppance. Just nihilistic, sadistic misery for everyone involved. I felt like absolute shit after watching it for the first time and after showing it to a friend also felt like shit again after watching it.

The home invasion triple rape and murder scene is especially difficult to watch even if it's not as explicit as something like A Serbian Film. The overall atmosphere and blasΓ©, casually dismissive attitude towards human life is hard to stomach.
Anonymous No.212619148 >>212620087
>>212618990
Great movie.
Anonymous No.212619204 >>212619514
>>212610578
>20 minutes of anal rape
Anonymous No.212619249 >>212619271 >>212619328
Pretty depressing and creepy
Anonymous No.212619271 >>212628597
>>212619249
Or if you prefer a fictionalized version
Anonymous No.212619289
>>212608082 (OP)
Anonymous No.212619328
>>212619249
That’s the second of two Aileen Wuornos docs by Nick Broomfield, these are the sources for all Wuornos footage.
The first one is also pure kino.
Anonymous No.212619397 >>212619445
>>212616391
Ans youre going to show him fucking Gummo?
Anonymous No.212619402
I feel like this movie is Hollywood bragging about how evil they are.
Anonymous No.212619445
>>212619397
No, I’d listen.
And that’s what no one else did.
Anonymous No.212619514
>>212619204
non-stop ass rape?!??
Anonymous No.212619586
brazil
Anonymous No.212619610
>>212609900
i can still hear some of the noises he makes
Anonymous No.212619751
>>212608082 (OP)
This fits the unrelenting bleakness criteria.
Anonymous No.212619791
>>212608082 (OP)
Anonymous No.212619864
>>212608882
No thanks I fucking hate this Considine hack. I watched Dead Man's Shoes because people on the internet were ranting about how great it was, and it was one of the shittiest movies I've seen in my life. It was like some fantasy fulfillment for him, presenting himself as this strong, stoic soldier everyone is afraid of
Anonymous No.212619886 >>212628687
>>212609556
Stupidity porn. The main characters are so fucking stupid they don't deserve sympathy
Anonymous No.212619933
>>212615370
Are you serious? This one was hilarious
Anonymous No.212619943 >>212623102
Anonymous No.212619955
>>212611328
Casual fuck buddies are fun but ultimately boring.
Anonymous No.212619977
Bicycle Thieves (1948)
Anonymous No.212619982
>>212617702
A Clockwork Orange actually has some humor and fun parts, even if it's mostly sadistic and absurd. The glib matter-of-factness of Alex's narration is pretty deadpan.
Anonymous No.212620040 >>212620742
I don't even know if i liked this, but the last 10-15 minutes are a masterclass in tension/editing. True misery
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Anonymous No.212620087
>>212619148
Michael Rooker was phenomenal, especially for his first leading role.
Anonymous No.212620100
>>212609226
That movie was the inspiration for Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Anonymous No.212620107
>>212609280
Thumbnail looks like Alex Jones after sneaking into the bohemian grove
Anonymous No.212620155 >>212622198
This movie is the most depressing movie I have ever seen
Anonymous No.212620165
>>212615320
MAKE IT STOP
Anonymous No.212620202
>>212609900
I’ve always hated that title. It makes it sound like a comedy or something.
Anonymous No.212620262 >>212629857 >>212630817
Anonymous No.212620323 >>212628927
It's kind of trash but desu it's one of the most miserable, bleak, and unsatisfying movies i've ever seen.
Anonymous No.212620375
>>212618990
I never looked at Tom Towles the same way after I saw that. I probably didn’t get the same level of impact though, because the first time I saw it was on β€œThe Last Drive-In”, so you’d have Joe Bob popping in every 20-30 minutes making jokes and talking about behind-the-scenes stuff.

Same with Maniac.
Anonymous No.212620377
>>212609188
>There's only two actual actors in this entire movie and the rest are actual Naples natives and gangsters
That's completely untrue, why would you spout bullshit like this?
Anonymous No.212620389
kiwi kino. most bleak i've ever seen, in the same realm as funny games, angst, and speak no evil but no one ever talks about it. There's another called Calibre I watched which is a bit more sad than bleak. And then there's Calvaire which is like Misery on steroids.
Anonymous No.212620574
>>212609591
It's the only movie that benefits from being told in reverse. Monica's interactions with Vincent and her friend have an entirely different context after what you've just seen, and the idyllic life she had in the beginning is the most depressing way they could have ended it. Irreversible isn't so much about rape, the perpetrator was a faggot anyway.
Anonymous No.212620742
>>212620040
Just lose the weight nigga damn
Anonymous No.212620968 >>212621123
Hey anons, question: why do so many of your "bleak" and "misery" films feature rape or a serial killer?

I have nothing against rape, I even enjoy it in a movie but it is so stupid. Being raped is not even the worst thing that can happen to a woman, some women fall in love with their rapist like that 1 american woman who became semi famous writing how she dated her rapist after the rape and even left her husband for the rapist.

When I think of misery I think of male misery, men receive no help in real life. Abandoned men, poor men, men who were overly protected by their moms and then forced into the world are like peak misery/pathetic, but no movie seems to tackle that. Like yeah, a lonely old man in france is sad, but desu all old people are somewhat sad. Where are the stories about young men living in fucking modern society and not receiving love even from their own progressive parents? The stories about male school shooters showing how the school system creates school shooters because female and male teachers hate boys and specifically bully them either openly or indirectly? Stories about young men never finding love with no unrealistic cute girl coming to save him but rather society hating the character because single men are seen as worthless?

And I am not even mysoginist, women can have sad stories too but they are so unrealistic. Irl only like 1 woman in 100k ends up living a truly tragic life, everyone will try to save a woman irl. Men are like 3 in every 10 will die tragically or a suicide and yet there are few realistic sad stories about them.

That's also why the serial killer misery porn is stupid, the serial killer is sme soft sigma who doesn't want to kill but has to and regrets it or one who wants to kill and is super evil and gets away with killing babies and the point of the sad flick is to show you the bad man got away.

Are there films about male loneliness inceldom, being abandoned and not being old as fuck or mixed with serial killers?
Anonymous No.212621123
>>212620968
you answered your own question, there are no such movies because nobody cares about such men
Anonymous No.212621270
>>212608082 (OP)
Angst (1983)
1984 (1984) is misery porn but actually cozy
Stachka AKA The Strike (1925) is probably the original
but the grand prize goes to...
The Golden Glove (2019)
Anonymous No.212621298 >>212622126
Anonymous No.212621524 >>212622275
>Entertainment (the comedian one)
I'm listing this first because I got absolutely 0 enjoyment out of it, it's just ugly misery with no entertainment value (ironically).
>The Divide
Ugly and disgusting as fuck and it's honestly kind of a trashy movie but also genius in how ugly the characters' behavior gets while remaining realistically human.
>The Warzone
Bleak but I'm sure people here have gooned to it.
Anonymous No.212621555 >>212622155
Anonymous No.212622126 >>212637802
>>212621298
excellent movie but I wouldn't catalog it as "misery"
it's uplifting to be honest
pic rel and Owning Mahowny also come to mind as "misery but clean and without much suffering per se" movies
Anonymous No.212622155 >>212622300
>>212621555
the real misery is that after the fall of the iron curtain all those countries started producing anti-communist movies like they were in the resistance for 50 years, maybe even 100 who knows... while they were sucking communist party officials' dicks so hard doctors were panicking that they might rip right off and then who will spank them for pleasure eh?
Anonymous No.212622177
>>212612308
>dutch version is better
that is the dutch version, retard
Anonymous No.212622198 >>212622273
>>212620155
I found it more boring than depressing, although it had its moments
Anonymous No.212622205
>>212615442
This was a good movie but it's more along the lines of shoah-porn
Anonymous No.212622273
>>212610218
>>212622198
Tarr's cinematographer made pic rel, it's very hypnotic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te2gMlQN_yM
Anonymous No.212622275
>>212621524
>the warzone
I have not seen it but just read the plot synopsis and
>The film ends with the siblings closing the door to the bunker
Does it mean they have sex? The girl was a nymphomaniac all along and the brother just a weak soΓ―man?
Anonymous No.212622300 >>212622357 >>212622676
>>212622155
It is almost like most movies are politically charged and used as a propaganda, different ones are getting made when political climate change. If you are looking for what was criticized within particular society without grifters jumping in to cash out on a new fad you need to look for movies made during that time period, not after shit changed. There are quite a lot of those surprisingly enough, granted they are much more tongue in check to get past government control.
Anonymous No.212622315 >>212623545
Stroszek
Anonymous No.212622337
>>212608082 (OP)
My diary desu.
Anonymous No.212622357 >>212622676
>>212622300
>If you are looking for what was criticized within particular society without grifters jumping in to cash out on a new fad you need to look for movies made during that time period, not after shit changed.
I am talking about successful directors that made both (like Rogozhkin in the example I replied to), with opposite propaganda message
I agree it's propaganda but the lack of commitment is sickening and should have no place in the arts; if you live in communism and want to really be a movie director, either
1. abstain
2. go to a non-communist country and be a movie director
3. be a 100% committed communist movie director who would kill, murder, and maim for communism

>There are quite a lot of those surprisingly enough, granted they are much more tongue in check to get past government control.
they got past as a psychological safety valve and a tool to measure reactions
Anonymous No.212622626 >>212622663 >>212622960
Anonymous No.212622663 >>212622760
>>212622626
clown women sexoooool
clown women are so fucking hot
Anonymous No.212622676 >>212622855 >>212622941
>>212622300
>>212622357
are you guys really complaining that someone made a movie after the fall of the USSR that they couldn't make during it?
Anonymous No.212622686
>>212608082 (OP)
Anonymous No.212622720 >>212628597
Anonymous No.212622760
>>212622663
Anonymous No.212622855 >>212623995
>>212622676
It is hypocritical because movies criticizing capitalism are not allowed to be made anywhere. There are plenty of horrible capitalism has caused. Yet the most criticism you will get is "yeah the wolf of wall street and sometimes a couple capitalists scam people but capitlaism is still the best and communism is bad and you should always support the rich even if taxing them would make your life better don't think about it dumb right winger and ignore the pedo islands too!".

Like I know we are on 4chan but communism shouldn't be controversial, to simply say all people deserve to at least not die of hunger and a roof infuriates half of america (the retarded half) like crazy. Directors going "communism bad" is pathetic and hypocritical, they are just chasing money by criticising a system where the 99% would be better off.
Anonymous No.212622909 >>212623062
Reading the plot descriptions of some movies on wikipedia, quite a lot of them have to do with street performers/entertainers and shit huh. Do directors have no creativity or do they just love the sad clown cliche?
Anonymous No.212622930 >>212622965
Calvary (2014)

It's quite blackpilling, don't even know if that's the film's actual intention either. The priest is like the last good man in a sea of degnerates that mock him and only have contempt for him and his perceived naivety. He's the perfect conduit for showing how the modern world and it's people are confusing for anyone who yearns for a bygone culture.
Anonymous No.212622941
>>212622676
>they couldn't make during it?
you are saying that like the director proposed the script, and was politely rejected
in reality if he submitted a script resembling "the chekist" he would have been shot on the spot, with all his family, and the scripwriter, and his family
it takes a special kind of person to make movies in communism (because all movies, with a few exceptions like Tarkovsky who fled without his wife!, in communism were legitimizing The Party), and that kind of person is not suitable to make movies outside communism either
Anonymous No.212622947
>>212608541
Yeah how would Monica Bellucci's bum give anyone an erection?
Anonymous No.212622960 >>212623160
>>212622626
great movie but idk why everyone says they cry at the end
Anonymous No.212622965 >>212623121
>>212622930
John McDonagh was always the better filmaker tahn his hack brother.
Anonymous No.212623018
>>212610196
>Be director
>Script gets picked up by wife of big producer
>Probably fucking the wife
>Make movie about how shitty Communist China actually is
>SUDDENLY die by suicide

Right.
Anonymous No.212623058
>>212609085
This film has to be excluded because of the Marisa Tomei sex scene
Anonymous No.212623062
>>212622909
these are basically movies for people who work in the industry (movies or arts)... I'd argue that a break from creativity is sometimes refreshing
Anonymous No.212623081
One of my favorites.
Anonymous No.212623102
Canoa
JapΓ³n
The Road

>>212619943
>Watch this because someone said it has good Cute and Funny scenes
>Its actually just a really bizarre dark film
It genuinely is like a horror movie.
Anonymous No.212623121
>>212622965
I've always thought In Bruges was overrated, never seen his other shit though.
Anonymous No.212623129 >>212623862
>>212617852
Same
Anonymous No.212623144 >>212623292
Left me depressed and anxious for days
Anonymous No.212623160
>>212622960
Yeah I didn't get what the movie was about... although it's damn miserable... then I read wikipedia about the time they showed it in America everybody left the movie theaters crying. It's probably the snapshot of normie life.

I don't really know why but you reminded me of pic related... didn't make me cry, but I was profoundly shocked that the USSR launched it to the global market (it even won an ironical Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film in 1981) as if they just invented sliced bread, the atom bomb, and "the movie that will end cinema" ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
Probably the most cringe moment in the history of cinema.
Anonymous No.212623197
>>212608082 (OP)
I always remember this Scottish film I saw when I was a kid called Ratcatcher
Shit still depresses me just thinking about it
Anonymous No.212623292 >>212623363 >>212623840
>>212623144
>Le kill le pedo tape makers
You are a normal faggot. There is 0 merit in movies presenting a plot point about killing pedos as if they were the most evil monsters ever.
Anonymous No.212623363
>>212623292
The Millstone men should go back in the closet.
Anonymous No.212623378
more "decrepitude porn" than "misery porn"
but if you commit to wanting to watch it, DO NOT READ UP ON IT because WHAT DID I JUST TELL YOU?!
you'll want to squeeze all the juice out of it on first viewing
Anonymous No.212623409
>>212609315
That Metallica music video kicks all the ass!
Anonymous No.212623498 >>212623593
I'm surrpised no one has posted such an obvious pick. The ending completely shifts everything we viewed previously. The black teacher is revealed to have only "helped" Derek so he can groom him to be a Nazi spy for the police, never giving a fuck in actuality about his well being or him changing. He renounces his ideology only for it to mean squat due to what I just mentioned and his brother being killed for a slight offense he made to some joggers who shoot him dead over it. He shat all over his skinhead friends and girlfriend due to some misguided (and ultimately bogus) journey to redemption which was just to make him into a rat by the black teacher. He either goes full nuclear and goes to a ghetto and shoots at everyone he sees or just kills himself.
Anonymous No.212623545
>>212622315
Came here to post this.
Anons itt who haven't watched it are in for a treat; one of my favorites.
Anonymous No.212623593
>>212623498
>such an obvious pick
it's too obvious, too heavy handed e.g. the mother smoking cigarettes, the fat friend who is the van driver
tries to suck too many dicks in the same time... the jewish recipe of mixing dogshit into the chocolate cake
etc.
Anonymous No.212623840 >>212623898
>>212623292
They are evil monsters. I suggest you throw out your CP and find a way to realise that a fag who lives in Buttfuck Arizona has no right to judge good British films
Anonymous No.212623862 >>212624122
>>212617852
>>212623129
is this the movie where they rape her on the pinball machine?
can't tell if I've seen it lol
Anonymous No.212623898 >>212623971
>>212623840
NTA but I'd rather live in buttfuck arizona than in good'ol great britain (including cumbria)

autists like you convinced antifa niggers to beat up 20 year olds dating SHE WAS JUST 18 YOU SICK FUCK
Anonymous No.212623906 >>212623926
>>212608541
The hardest erections I’ve ever had were when I was around my fat-assed friend and I was hoping her back to her dorm from drinking too much. There was always the realization I could grab handfuls of that thick white booty and go to town on her.

Which of course I didn’t, because I’m not black and I know that’s College Rape 101.
Anonymous No.212623926
>>212623906
Sorry for the bad grammar I’m going 80 miles down the highway and trying not to die. I’m not brown and I live in Ohio.
Anonymous No.212623958
The Grey is extremely miserable
Anonymous No.212623971 >>212624030
>>212623898
i heard arizona is great though
Anonymous No.212623978
Anonymous No.212623995
>>212622855
> to simply say all people deserve to at least not die of hunger
Completely agree which is why Communism is unlikely to be tried AGAIN
Anonymous No.212624030 >>212624114
>>212623971
On the one hand, you have the laxest gun laws in the country and an overall good sense of freedom. On the other, most places you live will be at least half spic, or failing that, you'll be surrounded by injuns with a plain-as-day hatred of whitey.
Anonymous No.212624048
>>212615275
>>212616355
has this been memed recently? theres mass murders and 20-30 minutes of straight execution scenes but theres zero point or moral to this movie, you walk away with nothing learned and its just your classic eastern euro nihilist piece
Anonymous No.212624053
>>212609703
Marcus wouldn't go to jail. He had a broken arm when the killing took place.
Anonymous No.212624054
>>212610526
>>212612056
>>212618363
I've watched most of the movies in this thread and think Joker 2 actually has them beat because this snuff film has nothing resembling any artistic thought into it. It's 2 hours of a satanic Hollywood Jew showing YOU what will happen to you if you dare stand up against the system or even accidentally become any sort of symbol for resistance against ZOG. Your life will be dismantled and you will be raped and killed. He also had Brendan Gleeson, an Irish goy under his payroll, make an insidious Catholic joke just to drive home this fact. Todd Phillips, even for a Jew, is one sick evil fuck.
Anonymous No.212624100
>>212609871
Don't forget the loud shotgun sound followed by push-in of the camera that occur at random moments in the film. Naturalistic my ass.
Anonymous No.212624114 >>212624271
>>212624030
Redskins have a well-deserved hatred of whitey considering we did to them what we claim the Jews are doing to us.
Anonymous No.212624122
>>212623862
Yes
Anonymous No.212624218 >>212624293 >>212624877
>>212609591
>the final scene to be the rape unedited and uncut,

Nah
Anonymous No.212624271
>>212624114
deserved or not, be mindful who you call neighbors or ralax around.
Anonymous No.212624293
>>212624218
>>212609591
put the rape in the beginning, as the first scene, so people can just walk out after the 15 minutes not needing to see the shitty movie
Anonymous No.212624360
They should’ve filmed the scene so I can watch it in VR. I want to be the guy that walked in on the rape, but instead of leaving I hide around the corner and masturbate to Bellucci’s fat ass plaps.
Anonymous No.212624544
>>212608082 (OP)
Whatever (1999)
I spit on your grave
Anonymous No.212624662 >>212625652
>>212608167
For years and years I heard about how this was the most fucked up and disturbing movie ever made and then I watched it and was incredibly let down. I don't know for the life of me how this movie got that reputation.
Anonymous No.212624877
>>212624218
he has a good point but is honestly overestimating the film entirely. the rape isn't meant to hold that much significance. it was just for shock value, Noe was always open about this. Anon's take prerequisites another completely different entirely. Irreversible is a provocation on film, not anything meant to tell an actual harrowing story about a tragedy. It's a fucking goof, a joke.
Anonymous No.212625064
/thread
Anonymous No.212625069
Rented several times at blockbuster, first time I saw a film as miserable and violent as this
It's on tubi
Anonymous No.212625652
>>212624662
Redditors basically, it's the same people that think the Descent is a good horror movie, and that have The Thing or The Shinning as their favourite movies.
Anonymous No.212625770
>>212608082 (OP)
Salo
Anonymous No.212625816 >>212626038 >>212627030 >>212634531
What is the psychology behind enjoying misery films apart from conformation bias for doomers
Recs: the girl next door, human centipede 2, basketball diaries , audition , crumb.
Anonymous No.212626038
>>212625816
Only really watched them when i was younger. Young curiosity i assume. Same reason highschool me would sit and watch some guy break a jar in his own ass. It's not even that it bothers me more now, i just don't see the point.
Anonymous No.212627030 >>212627051
>>212625816
>crumb
I was expecting to see a movie about a so-so cartoon artist whose work I've seen but haven't really liked (or disliked for that matter)... what I got was shocking and horrific... all that was missing was a plapmonster for a wife and the tableau was complete
>What is the psychology behind enjoying misery films apart from conformation bias for doomers
same reason people listen to blues music

although this thread is kinda biased towards gore and horror stuff which is a bit sad as I find those kinda movies too boring to enjoy (I would probably draw the line at Angst or smth)
Anonymous No.212627051 >>212628052 >>212634531
>>212627030
Why do people listen to blues music
Anonymous No.212627065
>>212608960
I just watched this for a second time because I barely remember the first. What a true kino, really bleak though.
Anonymous No.212627174
>>212609226
I love this movie for models and overal production quality. But damn, it's so fuckin boring. And the idea for the plot is extra stupid.
Anonymous No.212628052
>>212627051
depends on the person I guess
Anonymous No.212628306
>>212609488
>So many men roam the streets burdened by wasted lives and quiet desperation like the Butcher.

As someone who is that kinda man I agree that ISA felt too uncomfortably close.
Anonymous No.212628451 >>212628627
>>212608882
>>212608960
>>212608964
>>212609226
>>212609556
What are these movies about?
>>212609262
I watched this and I remember little about it but there was nothing in it to make it "misery porn." Also it was mid.
Anonymous No.212628597
>>212617702
This and Amores Perros.
>>212619271
Also this.
>>212622720
This is the contrary, also mid.
Anonymous No.212628627
>>212628451
>>212609262
I agree but now you actually reminded me of pic rel
also McCabe & Mrs. Miller
not my kinda misery but hey a thread is a thread
Anonymous No.212628687
>>212619886
I bet you'd go full Rambo in that situation.
Anonymous No.212628927
>>212620323
I liked it enough. It's in that genre of "feature length Twilight Zone episode" movie which I generally enjoy.
Anonymous No.212628978
>>212608082 (OP)
my life
Anonymous No.212629115 >>212629413
How has no one posted Aniara yet? The definition of bleak.
Anonymous No.212629413
>>212629115
they are only posting ara ara's
Anonymous No.212629714 >>212629952
>>212612056
I genuinely feel kinda bad for Gaga. I remember watching a couple of interviews with her before the dumpster fire came out and she seemed so exited about playing Harley and apparently spent a long time writing songs and making choreography for the musical scenes. Then the movie comes out and the vast majority of her scenes got cut and they didn't use a single song she wrote/filmed in the final cut. And to top it all off, some people believe she turned the movie into a musical despite it being one before she even got casted so she gets a lot of the blame for it being shit.
Anonymous No.212629857 >>212629945 >>212630542 >>212630817
>>212620262
What is the English title of this? Looks interesting.
Anonymous No.212629945
>>212629857
Boku no Pico
Anonymous No.212629952 >>212630221 >>212630284
>>212629714
Feel the same way about the snow white spic. She got dog-piled by a bunch of adults still dumbfounded by the fact that disney churns out mostly shit nowadays.
Anonymous No.212630043
>>212612802
>>212613829
I watched Man Bites Dog with my mother because she loves that serial killer shit, and somehow totally fucking forgot that it had that brutal gang rape halfway through.
It was not great apologizing for that as it played out in the background.
Anonymous No.212630221
>>212629952
Rachel Zegler put her foot in her mouth during interviews, so I don't feel bad for her.
Anonymous No.212630284
>>212629952
>She got dog-piled by a bunch of adults still dumbfounded by the fact that disney churns out mostly shit nowadays.
the amusing part is that those people are still Disney fans and want to talk about nothing but Disney.

they are just in denial and blaming women in the films is part of their grieving process its the same for TLOU franchise.
Anonymous No.212630393
>>212608082 (OP)
if you're a 4chan poster, Dark Horse by Solondz and it's not even remotely close
Anonymous No.212630394
>>212608082 (OP)
>movies that are purely made of anguish, despair, misery and unrelenting bleakness
Most modern media is this, a cliche
Anonymous No.212630436
>>212608811
the best thing Sean Penn, and maybe even Jack Nicolson has ever done
Anonymous No.212630482
Pusher 2
Anonymous No.212630494
>>212608082 (OP)
Misery?
Anonymous No.212630542 >>212630767
>>212629857
Sound it out, nigga.
Leviathan
Anonymous No.212630583
Anonymous No.212630767 >>212634476
>>212630542
>Sound it out, nigga
arguably it's Leviafan because the "th" has an entire letter to its own, nigga
Anonymous No.212630817 >>212630905
>>212629857
>>212620262
Loveless and The Return are both great bleak kinos from the same director. Russia is a hellhole.
Anonymous No.212630821
Anonymous No.212630905
>>212630817
>Russia is a hellhole
Anonymous No.212631538
This one starring Slugworth from Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory
Anonymous No.212632626 >>212633998 >>212642337
Anonymous No.212633998 >>212638828
>>212632626
I've read that McCarthy was chuffed with how this movie turned out yet I couldn't watch 10 minutes of it
Anonymous No.212634126
Pretty much every movie directed by Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels.
Anonymous No.212634476 >>212634651
>>212630767
It would still get him close if he googled "Leviafan movie" so I'm still mostly correct.
Anonymous No.212634531
>>212625816
>>212627051
>What is the psychology behind enjoying misery films apart from conformation bias for doomers
why was a funny stereotype in the 2010's that all right wingers were obsessed with Knut Hamsun's "Hunger"?
Anonymous No.212634651 >>212635150
>>212634476
in fact I was wrong because I thought it was written in Greek lol
Anonymous No.212634808
>>212608082 (OP)
here's some misery porn for you bro
all the advantage without the smell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doMXDFOXeM
Anonymous No.212635150
>>212634651
Oh lel there's that too. Yeah, Cyrillic and Greek are very similar. If you know one, it's not hard to learn the other. Hebrew is the same.
Anonymous No.212635724 >>212635931
>>212609900
both this and the Nic Cage version are great.
Anonymous No.212635931 >>212637960 >>212640477
>>212608811
>>212635724
any other misery porn featuring Nic Cage?
I'm quite surprised that when he had a financial lull (not sure if he's still up to acting) no person with a script he barely waited to "expose" a person impervious to external influences, except emotion, like Nic Cage, came forward and paid him a relatively huge sum to make his dream cum tru
and I bet he would have LOVED it too
Anonymous No.212636041
>>212609591
>Maybe even include a scene where the two men are told they killed the wrong man
I never understood why this is considered so horrible in the movie. Yeah, they didn't get back at the right guy, but the guy they killed was literally about to rape, so he was the same breed of scumbag. It's not like they hurt anyone who didn't deserve it.
Anonymous No.212636362
>>212615939
good kino
Anonymous No.212637802
>>212622126
It's the quite bar scene that gets me.
Anonymous No.212637906
>>212608082 (OP)
eheheheheheheh
Anonymous No.212637960 >>212639030 >>212639580
>>212635931
Mandy
Anonymous No.212638264
The incredible melting man 1977 Not sure if it was intentional since it was supposed to be a parody of 50s sci finmovies and prop producers turned it into straight horror but the whole story is just a astronaut risked his life in space, freaks out at what’s happening to him and loses his mind, wanders around the desert and looking at himself, then melts and gets swept into a garbage can. Not really comedy material. The tone music and tone is so weird too
Anonymous No.212638625
>>212616175
Schizo headcanon
Anonymous No.212638828 >>212639259
>>212633998
try the sunset limited
Anonymous No.212638972 >>212639357
here's one you should watch at least once in your life.
Anonymous No.212639030 >>212639580
>>212637960
one of the highlights in film in the past 10 years for me
Anonymous No.212639061
>>212608587
no only the tasteful intercourse scene
Anonymous No.212639137
Clean, Shaven is pretty bleak
Anonymous No.212639259 >>212639320
>>212638828
don't really like the description but on the other hand it ain't a movie I could have found on my own either so thank you, I'll check it out
Anonymous No.212639320 >>212639409
>>212639259
Sure thing, McCarthy was directly involved, he was on set. Also why couldn't you watch The Road? Was it too depressing, or for some other reason.
Anonymous No.212639332
Kill List. I hate everything about the movie
Anonymous No.212639357
>>212638972
couldn't get past a quarter
too fuckin retarded, sorry, and I actually liked Dogville and Riget
Anonymous No.212639386 >>212639452 >>212639508
>>212608082 (OP)
>Post movies that are purely made of anguish, despair, misery and unrelenting bleakness.
So almost every movie released in the past 10 years?
Anonymous No.212639409
>>212639320
probably the wardrobe and how the scenery and the camera work combined, don't remember quite well
Anonymous No.212639452
>>212639386
that's watered down low quality anguish-despair-misery-bleakness bro, we want the hard stuff
Anonymous No.212639508
>>212639386
movies in the past 10 years being demoralization =/= true drama
Anonymous No.212639580 >>212639767
>>212637960
>>212639030
looks kino, will have to give it a watch soon
Anonymous No.212639767
>>212639580
be sure to watch "The Viewing" (episode 7) from the "Cabinet of Curiosities" also
it's by the same director but I enjoyed it terribly more than I did enjoy Mandy
not really suffering porn though
Anonymous No.212639884 >>212641559
>>212608082 (OP)
Anonymous No.212640023 >>212640415
man im not gonna watch all this shit
can someone just tell me the good ones?
Anonymous No.212640144
>>212608082 (OP)
Anonymous No.212640415
>>212640023
there are 30-40 movies in this thread
even if you are a wagie you could watch 1 a day for 1-2 months
Anonymous No.212640477
>>212635931
Pig is pretty miserable too and good. Synecdoche, New York too. Honestly, Cage is lowkey a misery actor artist.
Anonymous No.212641505
Anonymous No.212641559
>>212639884
kek
Anonymous No.212641626 >>212641664
Anonymous No.212641664 >>212641686
>>212641626
kino cast
Anonymous No.212641676
Glu glu glu
Anonymous No.212641686
>>212641664
it's good if you haven't seen it
Anonymous No.212642337
>>212632626
Brutally condensed misory
There was a few scenes of relief in that shelter then it pmo he left it so fast because he heard a little noise
Anonymous No.212642874