Thread 212619797

IT ALSO OUTRIGHT FLOPPED IN MOST OVERSEAS MARKETS

MAN OF KINO CHADS STAY WINNING!!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/ejXjZ-k6Myc

Does this mean capeshit is dead?

>>212619797 (OP)
Everyone already knew that would happen despite the endless gunnjeet shilling. Putting this between Jurassic World and F4 was sheer retardation on Gunn and WB's part.

>>212619817
Hopefully

>>212619847
>>212619827
>>212619817
>>212619797 (OP)

>>212619872
>look ma! I posted it again!

>>212619872
Based Pride parades, blacked porn enjoyer.

>>212619797 (OP)
No it’s not. And guarantee it won’t drop 67% its second week either like MOS

>>212619797 (OP)
Depends on the 2nd weekend drop, if it's got legs (which is possible, good reviews are never a bad thing) it can still do quite well and avoid flop territory
That being said, I don't see it matching MoS, let alone beating it

>>212619872
SAAARS WHY IS THE BOX OFFICE SO BAD IT'S NUMBER 1 INDIA I'VE BEEN SHILLING MR GUNN'S MOVIE SO HARD

>>212619817
Not until Flop 4 tanks

>>212619827
THE SHILLING was insane
I couldn't even fathom where did they come from

How could someone shill a superman suit that looked like a poor cosplay costume....

this is something that's being witness across all movies rn. and no it's woke go broke, ALL movies, released right now are seeing only a fraction of the ticket sales compared to last decade
hardly something you can attribute to a singular director or producer or even a studio
if the movie industry wants to survive the next couple years then it needs to scale back hard on movie budgets

>>212619941
Anything for a rupee, I guess.

>>212619921
It probably will, given how frontloaded it is and how capeshit movies always have a >50% drop in the second weekend. I expect a second weekend of 40M or less

>>212619921
Oh, it will. This shit is absolutely dead internationally.

>>212619797 (OP)
Dead medium.

>>212619930
Imagine falling for a Deadline lowball, you dumb Indian

>>212619797 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwnevt-c1_w

>>212619973
50% is good. With bigger opening weekends then ever before 50-60% drop is ideal. Only small budget movies pick up audience ever have a positive second weekend

Snyderjeets celebrating too early like they did when those two bad reviews broke the review embargo lmao. Superman will have far better legs than people anticipate due to very good WOM. Expect a 700 million domestic and 300 million overseas.

No quips. No reddit humor. No “DUDE WHAT THE HELL!”
Just scale. Mood. Mythology.
Snyder framed Superman like a religious figure burdened, alien, terrifying and beautiful. The whole thing played like a Terrence Malick fever dream shot through a NASA lens.
Superman in cuffs. Surrounded by military goons while being marched down a hallway like a war criminal. The most powerful being on Earth choosing to surrender.
You didn’t need Nathan Fillion in a bad wig explaining to the Audience what is happening on screen.
That image said everything, He’s not above us, He’s submitting to the fear of mankind because he wanted to be trusted.
That’s what Snyder understood, Superman isn’t interesting because he’s invincible. He was interesting because he choose restraint. Because trying to be good even when parts of the world feared and hated him was what made him Superman.

Then look at Gunn’s Superman.
Off-brand cosplay. Shitty MCU suit. Smirking like a retard constantly.
Cast looks like they were pulled straight from a Disney+ karaoke open mic night.
You the whole movie’s going full of ironic banter and “actually Superman is just like us :) that's why he acts like Starlord now"
They’re sanding off everything that made the character interesting AGAIN.

Man of Steel had weight. You felt the ground crack when he flew.
Gunn’s bounces around like a Funko Pop come to life.

We had Myth.
Now we get merch.

>>212619973
with the overall reviews, do you think the movie will gain legs?

>>212619797 (OP)
Do retards like you still genuinely believe this gray slop is a good movie

>>212620051
> It's a 78% definite recommend on PostTrak

World of mouth will help this movie a lot. Superman doesn’t sell anymore

>>212620095
Link to original post? I have spare reddit gold to award.

>>212620068
Snyderjeets already lost. Zaslav already greenlit a sequel.

>>212620068
Did you miss the ‘>’ or are you clinically stupid?

>>212620084
They were all claiming it would only make 90 million its opening weekend. Now that even the lowest projections are saying 115-120 they still calling it a flop still.

>>212620095
>Smirking like a retard constantly.
"David doesn't resemble Superman one bit.
That's the thing that pisses me off the most.
I can endure whatever other decision Gunn made, but the actor for Superman HAS to look like Superman. He can't just look like some random white guy.

>>212620095
Why do Indians and other shitskins think aurafarming and vibes equals good writing?
Cavillman was the most unlikable incarnation of the character.

>>212620102
nothing is selling anymore
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/

>>212620097
Better than MOS? Yeah. The problem is that another capeshit movie is coming so it will eat out its legs. 300M is my bet

>>212620152
>WHY DO PEOPLE THINK A VISUAL MEDIUM SHOULD SHOW AND NOT TELL THE AUDIENCE WHAT'S HAPPENING

>>212620097
>>212620102
It doesn't matter because the movie will make money on streaming anyway

>>212620161
Spider Man and dinoslop still sells regardless of how bad it is

>>212620097
Nta and not even a snyder hater but the negative reviews absolutely hurt his film's box office. I think BvS was the most egregious one, Wonder Woman Joker and Aquaman all had good reviews and did as good or better than it. Which is insane because it came out in prime super hero popularity and was the most anticipated DC film ever.
That being said the current landscape in Hollywood is grim af, superhero fatigue might catch up to this film. It's hard to say, honestly.

>>212620175
FF doesn’t come out for two weeks. MOS fell off a fucking cliff ifs second weekend

>>212620120
>Zaslav already greenlit a sequel.
Means nothing to me.

>>212619817
I want 2 more movies with Battinson and then we can close capeshit chapter for good.

>>212620180
Cavillman mewing while innocents die around him set to Zimmer's dreary score is not showing or telling, you dumb Indian.

>>212620101
>94% rotten tomatoes verified audience score
>4/5 letterboxd score
>7.7 imdb score
>7.5 metacritic audience score
>78 definite recommend on PostTrak
>A- cinemascore
The great WOM is going to carry this movie to a 700 million domestic similar to top gun maverick. Plus a 300 million overseas for a total of 1 billion. You snyderjeets were so completely wrong about the critic and audience score, and you will be even more wrong about its box office lmao.

>>212620192
carried heavily by the memes

>>212619827
Gunn's remarks were also disastrous

>>212620095
based

>>212620207
Which is what im expecting from this movie. Most people whove seen it say it’s disposable and popcorn like. Where’s the rewatch factor? Kids may want to see Jurassic instead
>theyre doing it now in Europe and asia
And all capeshit movies are frontloaded. Also MOS did so much better overseas than this. Thats just laughable

>>212620218
It was funny how excited snyderjeets were when those two negative reviews broke the review embargo. They rushed to declare superman a critical flop lmao. Same situation repeating again. They're all excited declaring superman a financial flop while disregarding it will have great legs. Snyderjeets just love to lose lol.

>>212619797 (OP)
Left wing souls are the color of shit!
Their hearts are as empty as a vacant pit!
They say they're tough but they always quit!
There might be a future but you're not in it!

Left wing pigs just can't get a win!
Their guts are twisted around their sin!
You can see Jewish shit between their teeth when they grin!
A charcoal briquette of demon din-din!

Left Wing Pigs just can't write well!
Every left-wing pig to ever die's in Hell!
They're losing all their shit--well that's just swell!
A nice empty wallet, how the mighty have fell!

Left Wing Pigs just can't make art!
They can only copy better men a'la cart!
The best they've got is a sparrow's fart!
They rip their unborn children apart!

We'll take their toys and we'll take their lives!
We'll burn down their cities and their hives!
We'll take their tens and we'll take their fives
Well take their land and we'll take their wives!

Left wing souls are the color of shit!
Their hearts are as empty as a vacant pit!
They say they're tough but they always quit!
There might be a future but you're not in it!

>>212620221
HHHAHAHAHAHHAH

>>212620095
Cringe. It's so obvious jeet hands typed this.

I’m only surprised that the subhuman Gunn didn’t make an even worse movie. They tried to keep open wokeness out of it, BUT since they had no choice but to cast Suerpman as an attractive white man, they made sure that he was as emasculated and weak as possible and still have him be the star of the movie. I’m very turned off by the use of young faggy-looking actors for most of the cast but that might be a positive for the zooms and alphas.

Ultimately though what it boils down to is the same thing that’s killing all recent films: the competency crisis has hollowed out the filmmaking industry of talented producers and they no longer have the ability to make good movies.

of COURSE /tv/ is full of Snyderfags. Of COURSE. You have to be contrarian to everything.

>>212620324
Indeed my "raising my wife's kid" redneck.

>>212620306
Just watch. You're not going to like how this ends lmao.

>>212620327
>I’m only surprised that the subhuman Gunn didn’t make an even worse movie.
Yeah. The movie was shit and not worth watching.
But it was far better than what I initially imagined.
I wonder if there's someone holding Gunn back, or if the first test screening woke him up.

>>212620051
That 22.5 million is in the Friday total, retard.

>>212620335
Gunn is a cuckold, he deserves to be crushed. Snyder's a retard but at least he has vision.

>>212620335
>of COURSE /tv/ is full of Snyderfags.
Really?
But Snyder doesn't have masterpiece besides 300

>>212620142
>making less than MoS UNADJUSTED for inflation is good actually

>>212619797 (OP)
Superman will make a billion dollars.

I'm beginning to think that there isn't any Indians and that /tv/ is just full of retards

>>212620218
>6'4

It's embarrassing that you actually believe Hollywood billed heights. He's the same height as Hoult - 6'2.

>>212620335
>muh contrarian

>>212620393
So per this logic, Snyderman is 5'11 then?

>>212620416
thank you for doing the needful, saaaar, this is what he looks like, saaaaar

>>212620349
Top Gun Maverick nearly wins the best picture oscar and turned into a modern classic. This aint it chief, it’s just Thunderbolts redux

>>212620388
A billion Canadian dollars maybe.

>>212620095
prompt?

>>212620440
>Top Gun Maverick nearly wins the best picture oscar
The modern oscar? Not gonna happen
It needs a tranny theme
NTA

Oh wow almost like hiring a director James Gunn who was an Epstein island PDFile is a bad choice. Oh well another billion wasted

>>212620376
Man of steel failed to make a billion at the height of comic book movie popularity and back when ticket prices were alot cheaper too. Not only that but the superman/DC brand wasn't carrying alot of bad baggage prior to the man of steel release. In fact DC was riding high off of nolan's batman trilogy. But despite all of that it still couldn't crack 1 billion because it had terrible legs due to being a trash movie.

>>212620432
>>212620467

>>212620471
Exactly why it lost to a tranny multiverse shittyy asian movie

>>212620467
>>212620494
One looks like superman and the other looks like a random guy.

What the fuck was Gunn thinking?

>>212620440
Superman is a far bigger household name than either thunderbolts and Top gun. A family friendly Superman movie with solid critic and audience reviews will do 1 billion easily. Just watch. This movie will have great legs.

>>212620485
>Man of steel failed to make a billion at the height of comic book movie popularity
Spider-man made 2 billion just a few years ago, retard.

>when ticket prices were alot cheaper too.
You know you're supporting my point right? MoS would have made more money today adjusted for inflation and ticket prices.

>Not only that but the superman/DC brand wasn't carrying alot of bad baggage prior to the man of steel release
Lol what? Superman Returns was hated when it came out. Superman IV was also shit. Superman was carrying a lot of baggage even back then.

>But despite all of that it still couldn't crack 1 billion because it had terrible legs due to being a trash movie
And that's exactly why this won't make 1 billy either.

>>212620537
He's not more popular than Batman and The Batman made only $772.2 million worldwide.

>>212620525
>gotta suck jewish cock
-James Gunn after getting the job

>>212620335
General audiences liked Cavill and the Snyderverse too though, so we cant be contrarian. Most of the hate came from obsessed DC fans on the internet.

>>212619817
Not so fast

>>212620568
batman did not have sexy hot krypto

>>212620485
It still did better overseas than this is doing. So basically still the superman solo movie to do well internationally

>>212620596
>General audiences liked Cavill and the Snyderverse
In my experience, people remember fondly about Cavill. Not the Snyderverse though.

>>212620537
This is not a movie that people talk about that much and see it again in theaters. Top gun maverick revitalized the cinema going experience and everyone kept saying how great it was and how you should see it in IMAX. Then you have industry people raving it. This is not the case, stop being delulu

>>212620604
Because there was no corny America ra ra bullshit. America's image is tarnished internationally right now, so that's working against Zoomerman.

>>212620335
How can you accept the treatment of Jor-El and Clark's Earth parents? James ruined those characters. He claims he watched Smallville but is it really true?

>>212619797 (OP)
never watched man of steel
should i watch it?

>>212620625
I feel like sincere and talented filmmakers like the ones behind Top Gun: Maverick are heavily burdened by the 95% of modern, shitty films.

Top Gun makes people have faith in movies again, while the other movies are destroying that faith.
NTA

>>212620645
>America's image is tarnished internationally right now
Fuck off Zelensky, we're not helping your bitch ass anymore

>>212620553
Spiderman is a huge household name too and the movie had great reviews which equals great legs. Plus it brought back the two previous spiderman actors. Therefore making it a big event movie aja a must watch.

MoS box office adjusted for inflation is around 800 million. Still not even cracking 1 billion which again is embarrassing. MoS released at the absolute height of comic book movie popularity.

Yes superman returns was hated but look at the situation right now with DC. DC is in a far worse state in terms of reputation than it was back when man of steel released. Man of steel was riding on the popularity of nolan's dark knight trilogy. They even slapped nolan's name on the movie and still it couldn't crack a billion because it was trash and had poor legs as a result.

And superman 2025 will have great legs because of the great reviews which equals great WOM. This isn't rocket science, jeet lol.

>>212620657
Give it a go. Reeve's Superman is better but it is a solid film for what it is. Just be prepared to study the lore. That's most people's real trouble with Snyder's DC films.

>>212620645
>MUH ORANGE MAN BAD
Not good enough of an excuse especially when they change his motto to ‘the human way’ instead of American ala there’s only one race type of leftist shilling. Superman has never been that big overseas and only MoS changed that.

>>212620683
You're not keeping up with the news, eh? Trump is now angry at mean old Putin for disrespecting him.

>>212620710
Retard jeet cant even get his numbers right

>>212619817
unfortunately, no.

>>212620663
>>Top Gun makes people have faith in movies again, while the other movies are destroying that faith.
A Man of Steel 2 with Chris McQuarrie
directing and Tom Cruise as Hal Jordan would have kept the momentum.

>>212620710
>Plus it brought back the two previous spiderman actors.
Far Froim Home made 1.4 billion. Stope the cope.

>MoS box office adjusted for inflation is around 800 million
And this is on track to make less.

>DC is in a far worse state in terms of reputation than it was back when man of steel released
Funny how that didn't impact Joker or The Batman. Almost like people watch good movies and skip shitty ones.

>And superman 2025 will have great legs
You are fucking delusional. It's already bombing in international markets. Superman is sandwiched between Jurassic World and F4 which will rape any long-term prospects.

>>212620604
Yes right now. Well see in its second week. But this movie will do very very good domestically like Top gun maverick. It won't even need overseas to make a profit. That's how good it will do. People doubting should wait and see. Snyderjeets celebrating too early like they did with the critic reviews.

>>212620765
Tommy cruze will never do capeshit but i do believe he’d have been a great hal jordan. Much better than the c list they got for this movie

>>212620773
My man again youre being delusional. It will do as good as the second amazing spiderman movie will. All cape movies are frontloaded

>>212620786
Tom Cruise is an awful actor. Cult-paid shills will disagree.

>>212620773
>Well see in its second week. But this movie will do very very good domestically like Top gun maverick.
You are comparing this Gunn work with

the critically acclaimed Top gun maverick? KEK

>>212620773
This is just blatant shilling at this point.

>>212619797 (OP)
GUNNJEETS ON SUICIDE WATCH!

>>212620772
Just screencap his post, I am going to make a thread in 2 weeks just laughing at that retard.

>>212620221
holy box office cope, batman!

>>212620862
Eh, he's obviously a shill. Nobody else would be this invested in gunnslop.

>Bots are now spinning the box office fiasco as no one outside US caring about US superhero and his values.
>Its not the movie looking like shit in every trailer and tv spot, it's just that people suddenly don't care about American superheroes!


Ahahahhahahahahahahah.

>>212620095
based

>>212620773
>But this movie will do very very good domestically like Top gun maverick
So it will have a near 6x multiplier?

>>212620095
Based SnyderChad spitting truth.

>>212619797 (OP)
It only made 900K or so in India. Considering its underwhelming domestic reception (A- cinemascore), it's a confirmed underperformance. and might end up losing money.

>>212620772
Far from home released in the same year as end game. So it was riding high on the success of end game. This is absolute common sense lmao. Plus spiderman had much better legs than man of steel due to being a much better movie. MoS is trash.

Superman will make more. You are really underestimating how good its legs will be. It will make around 700 million domestic and 300 million overseas.

Joker released in 2019 which was still at the height of comic book movie popularity and DC wasnt nearly in bad of a state as it was prior to the release of superman. Plus joker is the most popular comic book villain of all time. Plus Aquaman made 1 billion the year prior and shazam was a critical success but was too unknown and didnt have enough marketing to be a financial success. And batman movies will always be popular especially if it has solid reviews.

Again it's making alot of its money domestically. Guaranteed to make 700 million. And solid WOM will help its overseas haul. 300 million OS guaranteed. F4 will be a critical and financial flop. The writing is on the wall. And the fantastic 4 is nowhere near a popular household name as superman. Keep coping.

>>212621097
The box office theory spergs were already cheering and doing midwit maths lol

>>212620827
Yes I'm comparing the critically acclaimed gunn movie to the critically acclaimed top gun movie. What's the problem? Superman has 94% verified audience score. 4/5 letterboxd score. 78 definite recommend PostTrak. etc. A- cibemascore. It's going to generate very good WOM. What more evidence do you need? lmao.....

>>212621217
Who gon tell him

>>212620831
Snyderjeets getting cocky like they were when those two bad reviews broke embargo lmao. It's going to be so funny once this movie becomes a financial success.

Dinosaurs better.

>>212621196
The attention economy/news cycle is very dynamic so that the so-called trades (Hollywood Reporter,Variety etc) are also stuck with frontpage articles suggesting the movie would be a hit but the story rn is how poorly it did not just overseas but also with the opening weekend fanboy audience in the US

>>212621217
>A- cibemascore. It's going to generate very good WOM.
It's just the opposite anon, A- seems high but suggests the movie had lukewarm reception among viewers

>>212620101
You're a subhuman redditor.

>>212621238
Snyderjeets refusing to see the long term again. They're hyper focused on the opening weekend which will do great BTW while ignoring the fact that this movie will have incredible legs. It's so boring and tiring having to repeat myself. Just enjoy watching superman's global box office reach a billion lmaooooo :)

>>212621280
Lmao cope.

>>212619827
If only the people who know how to make and market a movie actually worked in movies, when it seems like they're all either here or sperging on reddit.

>>212621314
Don't take it from me if you need to hear it from the fanboys: go to reddit's r/boxoffice and you'll read the exact same thing. A- means a very low ceiling to the movie even if it weren't facing tough competition. The narrative rn is that WB would be "satisfied" with a 500 mil run-- a humiliating admission of defeat

>>212621290
oh delicious, delicious cope

drink it in, snyderchads

>>212621365
r/boxoffice hate DC. Also fuck reddit lol.

>>212621365
Any source on that wb statement? They’re going through a crisis rn and it is absolutely fucking laughable how a minecraft movie is making more than a Superman movie

>>212621386
Snyderjeets are the only ones here coping lmao. Superman is expected to have a very solid opening weekend and will have great legs. You jeets aren't going to like how this ends :) ...

>>212621217
>A- cinemascore
So, the audience liked it as much as MoS, hmm.

>>212621290
There is no longterm at this day and age. The non-theatrical profits were already accounted for. Opening weekends are carefully monitored by studios because they deffine word of mouth and should give the movie a headstart. Neither will happen in this case because, say, 125 mil is a very mediocre start and the audience reaction is divisive/meh.There'll be no WOM to propel it forward

>>212621481
Forgot how good the marketing for MoS was with that cool ass poster

>>212619797 (OP)
>WOOO SOME MOVIE FAILED THAT MAKES ME SO HAPPY
what the fuck?

>>212621418
In fact it's the opposite: r/boxoffice turboautists were closely watching the numbers bc they love capeshit. You'll see a lot of frustrated comments from ppl who wanted the movie to be a hit but admit it won't

>>212619797 (OP)
Who am I supposed to trust here?

>>212619797 (OP)
OH MY SCIENCE SAAR LOOK AT THESE BOX OFFICE DATA THIS IS CHANGING MY LIFE IN EVERY WAY SO FASCINATING WHAT A GENIUS QUESTION SAAR IT CUTS TO THE CORE OF THE ISSUE

>>212621516
it was both. r/boxoffice is an autistic fan warzone that is like console wars where half the people hated the movie and half of them were hyping it to make a trillion dollars.

>>212621429
One of the movie press sites mentioned it ("unnamed sources" or some shit). Cooly considering the weeks before the release it seems abundantly clear that they made several mistakes, particularly James Gunn's retarded comments on indians, the "immigrant story" and "it doesn't need to make 700 miil" when everybody knew it did. He expressed no confidence in his own movie and drove away important demographics

>>212621365
Not entirely true. The Batman also got an A-, and Jurassic Rebirth, which is doing pretty great, got a B.

>>212620095
Absolutely based.
Some midwit may think that you are trying to show off, but every word there is just a truth.

>>212621481
Nope because superman has a higher rotten tomatoes audience score, higher imdb score, and higher letterboxd score. etc. That A- for MoS was most likely a reporting error. It happens sometimes. Should be alot lower.

>>212621589
Maybe zaslav already made a decision post McKinsey study on how to sell the studio and gunn knows this so hes just enjoying the press kit. Im sad the david guy feels confident, he doesnt look like a bad guy

>>212621560
Don't trust the snyderjeets they are massively coping right now lmao. Superman is looking to have a big opening weekend and will have very very good legs too. Superman will be a big financial success.

>>212621541
Yes you snyderjeets will be consuming alot of alcohol in order to cope with superman's inevitable financial success.

>>212621654
t. WB head of distribution Jeff Goldstein

Everyone with above 80 IQ seen it in the water when WB got separated less than month before Superman release.
They were ready for a flop.

>>212620388
Zimbabwean

>>212621516
r/boxoffice is full of marvel/disney fags lol. Plus it's reddit so who gives a fuck? They're most definitely wrong. If you think otherwise then you need to go back.

>>212621601
Capeshit needs WOM. Dinoshit doesn't. As for The Batman, more than half of its total box office was international.

>>212620657
it's an interesting alien invasion movie with DBZ fighting

>>212621684
Yeah i even checked their put options with maturity at july 18 and they all had high volume. High short interest on the stock too which aligned with that.
Honestly im glad this is happening as they are only reaping their short term stupidity at not going through with MOS 2 with an actual good director and going ahead with the guy who gave them two bombs with a mediocre skill because he made a funny movie with a raccoon

>>212621636
Perhaps. The industry's also realizing that capeshit is a diminishing returns genre and woke mistakes are expensive

>>212621707
As I said,, disregard those.Look for the comments objectively crunching the numbers and those from DC fanboys whining not because of the naysayers but bc of the actual figures.
Numbers are numbers, even in reddit

>>212621772
Now we have this autist who’s insanely claiming the movie can go on the way of top gun maverick lmao

>>212621772
>go on reddit
No lmao. You can go back though.
>>212621790
It will. Keep coping, jeet lol.

>>212620945
>So it will have a near 6x multiplier?
Yes

>>212621790
There's always fringe, delusional vestigial cope. People who fail to read the audience's mood and pretend the movie is the only summer option etc

>>212621713
Yes, but this also has a bigger 3-day opening weekend domestically than either Dinoshit or The Batman. "A-" meaning the movie has a very poor ceiling isn't a universal truth. The first Venom got a B+, but cracked 850m. Logan also got an A- and iirc did pretty well but I'm too lazy to look it up right now. Then you have stuff like Thunderbolts, which got an A-, but had perfectly fine legs due to its good WOM. It only flopped because it had a terrible opening weekend since nobody was interested.

I have no clue if the movie will do well btw. Just pointing out that cinemascore is only one metric used with others. Superman is weird, because people seem to either love it or hate it, while most other A- Mahvel movies were just everyone agreeing it was mid. If you look at the audience reviews on RT for example, it's higher than any of those other A- mahvel movies.

>>212620152
Indians like Snyderman because they don't understand the white values Superman is supposed to represent and Snyderman is a betrayal of those.

>>212621844
>no rewatch factor
>F4 comes soon
>kids will go to Jurassic (theyre now doing it instead of this movie) and Smurfs
Exactly like MoS. Shit that even had a brad pitt movie sandwiched with it too lol

>>212621821
Reddit will provide you the links to educate you on why the movie is DOA. Other sites will do the same

>countless threads desperately trying to disparage a Superman movie for months
This needs to be studied

>>212621865
Not that thirdie faggot but it takes a little bit of analysis to understand why. Especially with how hollywood accounting works. I knew this movie was toast after learning about the budget and how capeshit kept flopping 2023 onwards

>>212621851
What values, you incorrigible dimwit? The creators of Superman portrayed him as a dark Knight who battled Wall street tycoon types.

>>212621790
Jesus Christ, I've seen like 10 minutes of the footage and dozens screeshots from this movie and not a single one made me think "Wow, that good".
What is this shit?

>>212621844
That type of counterfactual performance is the exception. The expectation for a brand like Superman is understandably enormous and the movie probably had the biggest marketing expenses of the year. Expecting the reactions to change disregards the context

>>212621790
>his eyes are actually looking in the different sides.
They have fucked up with Superman casting.

>>212621924
What plotfaggots and MCU did to an entire generation. The reddit tomatoes score being that high made me think it was all shilling. Then looking at the top reviews in metacritic being all women makes me think the trades just sent their TV critics to see it so they wouldn’t lose access to future wb screenings

>>212621910
The studio very likely did see the writing on the wall a few weeks back. The biggest surprise was the very subpar international reception and how strongly Jurassic World performed on its 2nd weekend

>>212621973
Bad long term planning
>ok guis lets just hire the guy who gave us a box office bomb and spend 500M in a superman movie we can do it! :)

>>212621929
I could list a number of B and A- movies that had perfectly fine legs. It's not that exceptional.
>expecting reactions to change
Huh? I don't expect reactions to change. I just said they were polarized. They're already in. Will this movie have good legs? I have no clue, I'm not saying it will. I think box office tracking prediction is retarded garbage and is barely better than guessing desu. This movie is evidence enough of that. I've seen ranges literally go between 50 million dollars within a week of this shit. It's worse than political polling. Ignore it all and wait 2 weeks for the actual result.

>>212621772
>A genuine numberfag trying to talk sense to retards.
Stop. It makes me sad. You are teaching useful numberfagging knowledge to nobody.
I appreciate you though

>>212620095
>No reddit humor.
KYS

>>212621988
And they weren't forceful enough in their strategy to distance the movie from the audience suspicion that it'd have woke lecturing. Gunn put a few hot women in the movie but that wasn't enough and many times the viewers' choice is simply go to a safe popcorn movie without having to endure le social lessons etc

>>212622044
And the fucking Palestine comparison for no reason at all other than brownie points. Like superman is literally a jewish invention is he actually stupid or what

>>212619817
The only thing that's dead is the complete and utter joke that has always been the DCU. But that was never alive outside of India.

>>212622008
>I could list a number of B and A- movies that had perfectly fine legs.
The list of movies that didn't is more extensive. Exceptions only reinforce the rule

>>212622070
I'm not even sure if that's true, for one, and it's not "an exception" does not mean "not a majority". An exception, by definition, is exceptional. An A- or B moving having decent legs is not so rare that one would classify it as exceptional.

Jew shills are afraid because this Supermna is 100% pro-palestine. Kek.

>>212622054
Yes. Utterly retarded, unnecessary and backfiring

>>212622029
>chefs kiss
Jesus fucking christ

>>212620221
>>212621217
>>212621625
>>212621844
Why are gunnjeet/gunntranny shills bringing up the audience score? They do understand averages right? Man of Steel has 75% audience score with 250,000+ reviews. Superman has 94% audience score with 5000 reviews. No shit the people who want to watch and like this movie will rate it highly on the first day/few days. But it won't be able to hold out when stretched thin between 250,000 reviews. Especially with the shitty nauseous fishbowl visuals and horrible CGI, costumes etc. It'll end up below 75% (when the mass rewatch of Man of Steel for comparison begins), I'm predicting around 64% at a push, maybe 55% at the lowest. Although hey, I'm expecting basedlennials and redditors to still be gunn-ho for capeshit. Could be even lower.

>>212622086
Since we're talking reddit, the cinemascore thread has a pinned comment with several movies and their cinemascore. Go and see for yourself: post-pandemic, it's a freefall

>>212622105
Most movies don't have a 94% audience score in their first few days. The audience score for 28 Years Later for example was like 70% after the opening weekend. Superman has a decent (not insane) audience score.

>>212620095
Superman is a murderor in man of steel. No wonder jew shills love it.

>>212622121
I've seen it Anon. I just referenced Thunderbolts, which had perfectly fine legs and WOM but flopped due to a shitty opening weekend. Dr. Strange 2 was the complete inverse. Cinemascore is not a perfect predictor of WOM. You also can't make a rule so strong that exceptions only prove it based on what.. 2-3 years of one specific subgenre?

>>212622128
Because 28 days later isn't a worldwide iconic figure like superman is, plus it doesn't have the devout fanbase that superman does, PLUS redditors and basedlennials weren't desperate to see the continuation. Don't be disingenuous.

>>212622105
This whole debacle is about people who understand data vs people who dont and just act like zealots of a DOA product while calling others zealots ironically so

>>212622169
>Thunderbolts, which had perfectly fine legs
Only Florence's. The movie itself didn't perform in a sufficiently lucrative way. WOM is a relative concept bc it has to result in profitability

>>212622181
>People weren't excited to see the continuation of the 28 years franchise
Lmao, now who's being disingenuous? Jurassic World had an audience score of like 80% after its opening weekend. 94% is a perfectly decent, butt not insane audience score for a franchise.

>>212622221
>the movie itself didn't perform
I said it had good legs, Anon, not that it was lucrative. It flopped because it had a terrible opening weekend, not because it had bad WOM/Legs, which again, were completely decent. If it had a better opening weekend, it would've been profitable, but opening weekend comes down to hype, which TB did not have.

>>212622135
so is the new guy

Didn't man of steel dropped like 80% on its second week? I prefer Superman big but not collapse later.

for reference, Man of Steel did £3.38m

total

snyderchad

victory

>>212622252
>It flopped because it had a terrible opening weekend
Its opening weekend was only 1 mil below tracking.

>>212622271
Not really. Blackhole won't kill his clone. Duh. Old age probably will tho.

>Man of steel just soup
The fucker snapped neck

>>212622278
Now imagine how much this will considering
>its frontloaded
>kids dont care
>no rewatch value
>WOM is mid

>>212619797 (OP)
Pretty funny considering ticket prices have gone up too.

They did the same thing with The Batman which they dragged kicking and screaming to make look like a success
>Was given a "premium" ticket price
>In cinemas for longer than any other WBD film
>Refused to disclose the marketing budget in any interview
>Kept out of streaming for longer than any other WBD film at the time
>Given a second run in foreign markets
>Still didn't beat BvS at all or MoS when adjusted for inflation

>>212619930
They initially projected a 170m opening.

>>212622313
They boosted the tickets from €7 to 12€ for this even in a saturday matinee. I may join the snyder chads and close the wallet!

>>212622311
And FF's tracking is surprisingly strong

>>212622311
It has good Wom tho? Man of steel was mixed. It has rewatch value too because some places are just finding out it's good. It won't collapse like man of steel at least

>>212622293
Yes, and the tracking predicted a terrible opening weekend.

>>212622335
Well it looks more interesting than this and it has galactus and silver surfer too.

>>212619946
Holy Kek they're literally fleesing people

>>212622335
It's around the same as superman

>>212620227
Gunn's comments also killed the remaining films in the DCEU when he said they're non canon to what's going forward

>>212622321
Source?

>>212619797 (OP)
if you adjust for inflation, man of steel also had a larger budget.

>>212622358
Superman's tracking was lowered several times whereas FF improved.
>As for other opening week projections for Superman 2025 in the US, several studio insiders have been reportedly more conservative with their range of $90 million to $125 million. This is somewhat of an outlier, though, since the National Research Group (NRG) said in June that it would open with $135 million (specifically $125-145 million). On the flipside, Fantastic Four’s box office projections increased from its initial expectations, going from $125-$136 million to $125-$155 million.

>>212622294
And Donnerman didn't kill Zod, and Nolan Batman didn't kill Ra's and Dent. Same old shell game from no kill rule whiners. Go watch Batman & Robin, George Clooney didn't kill anybody

>>212622313
Because BvS was so fucking bad it pretty much killed the brand except for WW and Aquaman. Even Batman took a hit, now imagine Superman. Still batman managed to be a success

What’s “character accuracy” in the face of raw epicness

>>212622449
>Killed the brand except for all the successes after it
Yeah okay.

>>212622441
That's because Superman's started higher and FF4's started lower. They both equalized to about the same number.

>>212622442
>and Nolan Batman didn't kill Ra's and Den
and Talia and her truck driver.

>>212622449
>it killed the brand!!
>box office continued to do fine
It’s actually hilarious after that horrendous Justice League fiasco how Aquaman of all fucking characters made a billion

>>212622449
>Still batman managed to be a success
Did it though? They pulled all sorts of strings and it didn't even beat BvS, WW or Aquaman. Adjusted for inflation its way down on every Snyder DCEU project. Hamada era killed the brand due to the tonal dissonance.

>>212622438
300m budget with 920m gross looks better than 560m budget and 550m gross

>>212622449
>BvS made bank
>SS made bank
>WW made bank
>Aquaman made bank
Justice League failed because it was a retooled mess of a film.

>>212622441
WB was clearly lowlballing with the $90m

>>212622344
For Thunderbolts, 74 mil wasn't that bad. Neither was the overseas box office (86 mil). It lost. The legs you mention were insufficient though

How many times does /tv/ have to say it?

DC is dead. Bury it.

>>212622475
Which still means the same thing: ppl lost interest in Superman and became more interest in FF-- all the more relevant bc they're both capeshit

>>212622511
Not to say ZSJL would have made a billion if released in 2022 theatrically

>>212622463
>Killed the brand except for all the successes after it
What success? The snyder cut? Lol
WW and Aquaman had nothing to do with snyder
It gave DC the worst reputation possible

>>212622513
74 mil opening weekend for an 180m dollar movie is pretty bad. It's legs were 2.5x~ which is completely average, not amazing, not terrible.

>>212622493
>Hamada era killed the brand due to the tonal dissonance.
Well not continuing with Superman and Batman, relying on Gal Gadot’s WW and fucking Zachary Levi. A competent exec would’ve gotten all the jazz surrounding the JL cast straightened out and prepped for the next movie. Zaslav saved us from Batgirl and 1930s black Clark Kent.

>>212622512
Safety measure. It makes an underperformance seem less disastrous. But Superman should effortlessly result in stronger numbers were it not for the ongoing capeshit fatigue and the mistakes made during the movie's publicity campaign

>>212622540
or that Superman was massively overinflated by trackers to begin with.

>>212622560
It covered the budget on the 1st weekend. The problem was the following ones

>>212622511
Aquaman made a billion because of an fucking anomaly. Not even BvS made a billion and aquaman got shitty reviews too. BvS just hurt the brand and you know it

>>212622582
To cover it's actual budget it had to make 450m. Making 74m domestic is not a good OW for a 180m movie, there's no way to spin it so that it is.

It would be funny if F4 outperforms Superman. And now it looks like that could be a reality. Snyder damaged DC so much that normies would rather see a mid Marvel movie.

>>212622603
No, in strict figures the movie production paid for itself on its opening weekend. It simply didn't have a strong performance to put it into a profitable zone

>>212622232
Zombie movie, vs Superman. Fuck off you stupid CUNT. I know what you are.

>>212622614
As much as I want to blame Snyder it's hardly just him. WB are the ones at fault for not firing the retard after MoS, but instead keeping him for BvS, and then only booting him halfway through Justice League to create some weird Frankenstein's monster of a movie with Whedon. You also just can't blame all the other shit movies on Snyder, WW84, Joker 2, Flash, Aquaman 2, Shazam 2, etc.

James Gunn had one job, he was right there, at the finish line. And then he had to FOR NO REASON make those comments about immigration.

>>212622614
> much that normies would rather see a mid Marvel movie.
Really? After marvels, quantumania thunderbolts, captain america 4 i'm not so sure anymore.

>>212622541
It certainly would have made more than Josstice league.

>>212622646
>WW84, Joker 2, Flash, Aquaman 2, Shazam 2, etc.
All Hamada and other awful people

>>212622624
The budget of the movie includes its marketing. You multiple it by 2.5x to get a rough estimate. Just barely paying for the production in its opening weekend is not good.

>>212622661
Probably not actually given it was 4 hours long. Such a movie would've never been released in theaters and if it was it would've made less than Josstice because

-Nobody wants to watch a 4 hour movie
-Even if they did, logistically, cinemas couldn't play it as much so there'd be less showing

>>212622614
>Snyder damaged DC
Snyder movies did good tho, Hamada and Gunn destroyed DC. Gunn should have been fired right after SS flopped.

>>212622554
Snyder co wrote Wonder woman 2017 and was involved in the production.

>>212622614
F4 offers Pedro, a prelude to the Secret Wars, Galactus and Silver Surfer. What does Superman offer?

>>212622600
So in a perfect world your movie has to have good reviews + box office to be considered a success. That was the Batman (2022) even after all the Snyder cancer, it did pretty good. Aquaman made a billion but it's sequel made 400m.

>>212622705
honestly I don't get how anyone is excited for Secret Wars. I don't even know who the fuck is on the Avengers anymore

>>212622684
The theatrical cut won't be 4 hours long.

>>212622693
"Involved with the production" he and his wife were the lead producers. Zack had less involvement with Aquaman, but again, lead producers

>>212622684
My nigger endgame was 3 hours long and so was the batman. Obviously a theatrical CUT wouldve been less than 4 hours. Runtime didn’t seem to be relevant for the huge numbers it got in streaming literally to the point it killed its servers

>>212622724
Yeah but the theatrical cut would've been a totally different movie so we have no idea if it would've been well received. Even the 4 hour cut only has a 70% RT.

>>212622504
box office discussions are entertaining because everyone pulls figures out of their ass based on feelings

>>212622685
All Snyder movies got mixed reviews, Gunn came from a hugely successful trilogy. Makes sense they give the job him who makes good superhero movies and doesn't just rely on a rapid cult

>>212622705
It also seems less politically charged and is being presented as a simple, mainstream summer movie

>>212620218
ftfy

>>212622685
This. MoS, BvS, Wonder Woman all made more money than every other DCEU film after Snyder left. Any info on the views ZSJL got world wide on streaming?

>>212622751
That ‘rabid cult’ appears to be a big box office driver

>>212622737
Endgame people tolerated because it was the culmination of like 20 movies. The Batman people complained about the length, and even then both of these movies are an hour shorter.
>a theatrical cut would've been less
And yeah, it would've been a different movie if you had to chop off a fucking hour so we have no idea how well it would've been received. Especially since a lot of ZSJL's positive reception ( which wasn't even that insane ) was because it looked better in comparison to the Josstice one. Like yeah if you force someone to eat shit then give them an overcooked steak they'll prefer the latter by comparison than if you just gave them the steak on its own.

r/boxoffice is having a mental breakdown over the international numbers. The excuses are
>uk heat wave
>china doesn’t like capeshit anymore
>everybody hates america
>snyderbros (now synonymous with conservatives and incels) not showing up as in their boycott having a legitimate effect lmao
Anything but admitting the movie looks like shit and Gunn not being able to keep his mouth shut for a week straight.

>>212622741
>RT
Nobody believes the critics anymore

>>212622776
Based. SnyderChads won.

>>212622715
>I don't even know who the fuck is on the Avengers anymore
It doesn't matter. All that matters is the name. And the Avengers are a brand that hasn't been tarnished in the eyes of the general public yet. There hasn't been a bad Avengers movie. Meanwhile, Superman, Batman, WW and the Justice League are tarnished beyond repair. Batman can barely pull it off simply by being extremly popular, but Superman and JL are damaged for a long time.

>>212622776
>>212622795
Snyder Bros Won!!!!!

>>212622705
>F4 offers Pedro
What successful movie did he make
>a prelude to the Secret Wars
This one maybe but The New avengers didn't help thunderbolts box office
>Galactus and Silver Surfer.
Except for comic fags, these two are from that bad 2000s F4 that flopped

>>212622541
Even if it had a 2 hr 45 minutes cut I don't think it would have made more than 700-800k. It did too much story. Even 15 minutes added to BvS in its Blu-ray cut made it a far better film.

>Your favourite flick flops
>I-Its because Snyder made a b-bad film 12 years a-ago!
But that film made more than yours despite releasing after Superman 4 and Returns
>S-Shut up S-Snyder cultist!
Never fails to make me laugh.

>>212622774
Dude like 30 mins of the movie are from the stupid post credit shit he included in the new cut. Then remove useless shit like wonder woman shit and some of the cyborg shit that went on for too long as well as the aquaman shit and you have a proper theatrical cut. Do u even understand how editing works

>>212622858
Marketing was kinda shit for it in 2017 and everyone knew it was a different movie. Plus too rushed. If they had cool it off and just waited for 2021 or 2022 it would have definitely done the numbers they wanted it to make

>>212622878
It's still a better movie, jeet.

>>212622942
not according to the overseas audience.

>>212622942
Indeed " Create your harem of your girls and boys" Gunnkek.

>>212622878
BvS wasn't even that bad, it's everything that came after that ruined DCU. The lack of direction and six flops in a row also the snyderjeets started to become cringe

>>212622975
*young girls and boys

>>212622135
Google the definition of murder

>>212622975
Indeed, snyderjeet. MARTHA

>>212620095
Incredibly based

>>212622996
Tell that to Zod snapped neck!

>>212622985
Hindsight is 20-20 but WB would have made more money had they stayed on the path and allowed Snyder to make JL 2,3, MoS2 from some other director, the Batfleck solo movie and all. It wouldn't beat the MCU numbers but certainly do much better than the directionless mess it became during the Hamada era.

>>212622985
Man of Steel had a trilogy that was dumped after Warner Execs saw Avengers box office numbers and wanted that!!!

Second Man of Steel would have entailed Metallo and Brainiac. Warner Executives fired dumped Goyer, Nolan, Snyder planned trilogy and hired Argo screen writer.

>>212623031
What happened to Ultraman in your flick?

>>212621141
Hey redditard? You lost. Snyderchads won

>>212623006
Based young girl and boys enjoyer.

Is superover, the new DCEU is DOA.
120-130 with 30+ being "previews" means 60+% drop for second week, international is VERY bad.

This will stop at 500m global or even less.
Supergirl can be a disaster worse than the marvels, they better send it to streaming.

>>212623093
They were retarded enough to give third tier characters like Supergirl and clayface their own movies before Batman and Wonder woman.

>>212623126
That's Gunn, Gunn did that.

>>212623155
And WB is even more retarded for thinking he's some genius.

>>212620095
Classic SnyderSCHOLAR W

>>212623126
Clayface is not a bad idea, it will likely make money due to small scope/budget.

But the only DC hero who can carry a big budget is batman, even wonder woman is likely spoiled now.

>>212623031
Premeditated is the key word.

>>212623219
wonder woman looked like a one time thing to me
nta

Someone explain to me how supergirl is going to fare any better

>>212623243
>>212623093
Dont worry kids, supergirl will do better because im actually interested in seeing it and it comes out close to my bday so it should do well

>>212623093
It won't drop 60%

>>212620095
Saar, I kneel.

>>212622985
I really liked BvS. It felt like it set up a very interesting universe that just wasn't followed up on in the sequels.

I reckon if we got the Batfleck movie in 2018 as planned it would have changed the trajectory of the entire franchise 2bh.

>>212619946
>same total box office in 2024/2025 as in 2000/2001
>CPI (which undervalues inflation) up 85% in that time frame
>minus 60% in total numbers of tickets despite population increase of 20%
>number of ticket per person per year down to one third its value in 2000
>people on average go to theatre only 1.5 times a year
Dead medium. Just release films to streaming.

>>212623267
Of course it will. Capeshit is always front loaded.

>>212623267
It's gonna do fine domestically, it's toast os, though.

>>212622985
>BvS wasn't even that bad
My dude they KILLED Superman on his second appearance, it was that bad

>>212619797 (OP)
Superman 2025 isn't that bad but yeah, Man of Steel it's definitely better.

>>212623284
Affleck was going through the worst phase of his life, cheated on his wife with their babysitter, turned alcoholic and lost the spark to direct or even act as Batman. He was great both as batman and Bruce Wayne. I was surprised to see him come back to shoot more scenes for the Snyder Cut.

>>212623315
Its projected to make around 350 dom. I dont know OS but i believe it will push past 600m

>>212623320
BvS and JL rushing is more of a WB fault than Snyder. They also wanted those films to be short despite having to introduce and develop multiple new characters. Baking a cake and eating it too doesn't happen that often. ZSJL and the Ultimate cut of BvS to a lesser degree worked because it gave more time to the characters.

>>212623037
Not even in terms of box office numbers but looking back at the DCEU as a story it would have been much more tonally cohesive. If they stayed the course with the original tone of BvS, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, it could have been a good franchise watch in 2025. As it is now, it's just a mess
>Justice League film that retroactively turns all the cast in to jokey caracatures
>Birds of Prey film involving Harley Quinn breaking up with the Joker and going on a crime spree in Gotham that doesn't involve Joker, Batman or Jim Gordon
>Shazam film in an established DCEU that doesn't involve Superman in a mentorship role aka that one Spiderman film
>Series of films that just don't fit in to the overarching narrative at all
>A Flash film which tries to set up multiverse in a weird way and doesn't really tie up or mention anything in either Justice League film
I suppose if you just watch MoS, BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, ZSJL and Aquaman they all kind of fit together but all the other stuff is just a mess.

The fact that the Flash is set 4 years after Justice League and doesn't mention the world ending threats at all is just fucking strange.

>>212623291
Agreed. Most people can afford good enough home kino set ups now anyway. A 4k 65-75 inch tv + soundbar is all you need.

>>212623284
BvS had a pure DC atmosphere. It kept the realism from MoS while dipping its toes into more lore. JL was meh.

>>212623320
>My dude they KILLED Superman on his second appearance
Oh shit you right i'm remembering BVS Eisenberg luthor, batman killing, save martha..

>>212623383
>I suppose if you just watch MoS, BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, ZSJL and Aquaman they all kind of fit together but all the other stuff is just a mess.
Suicide Squad is also like Josstice League, David Ayer talks about wanting to release his cut to this day.

>>212623396
It was an alternative to Marvel which was taking a more light-hearted approach. If they stuck to their plan it could have been cohesive. The course correction every 2 years is what fucked the DCEU.

>>212623383
It’s fine if you stop at Aquaman and pretend nothing afterwards except like TSS happened

>>212623383
The DCEU was a series of bad decisions inundated by bad course correcting. Really silly to look back on in hindsight

Isn’t that the question of the day

>>212623386
Cinema theatre were a technological limitation. They linger ouf of habit, and apparently not for long. They're going the way of the public phone booths before mid century.

>Batman kills!
I hope folks realise that Batman is the antagonist for 2/3rd of the film in BvS. As seen in at the end with Zuckerberg and in ZSJL he goes back to his no kill rule.

>>212623428
TSS wasn't very good though.
>>212623425
They released an extended cut which has 8 extra minutes and unironically makes it a much better film. Just little bits of connective tissue and character moments that were inexplicably cut. An Ayer cut would be an interesting watch as it looked more in line with BvS in its first trailer.

>>212623450
The tonal and visual shift from BvS to Josstice league is ridiculous. Remember that Steppenwolf og design was “too scary”. That universe was so fucking doomed holy moly.

>>212623471
>ZSJL he goes back to his no kill rule.
No he doesn’t and that’s okay. He just stops branding.

>>212623471
I think that the Batman DCEU arc was in full transition in BvS. Snyder wanted the characters to have decent character growth before ending up with the comic faithful characters by MoS2. JL3 sounds like it was going to be a hell of a film

>>212623497
Who does he kill in ZSJL or the Flash? Even in Suicide Squad he took the guns off the car and doesn't just mow down the guys in that car chase.

>>212623471
He kills in every live-action movie except for Batman & Robin and apparently the last one which I didn't watch so can't confirm.

>>212619946
Its interesting that ticket sales were declining even before the streamers arrived

>>212623535
People definitely died in the car chase with the penguin but Pattison hasn’t directly killed someone yet. The first time Bale directly killed was Harvey Dent.

I looked up the adjusted numbers and MoS adjusts to 404m in today's dollars. If 115m holds, Superman will need a 3.52x multiplier to reach MoS adjusted dom total. Not unachievable.

>>212623740
>I expect a mixed at best film to hold its opening weekend numbers
Yeah.

>>212623678
>The first time Bale directly killed was Harvey Dent.
He killed ras

>>212623740
Also factor in that even accounting for inflation they're charging more for tickets anon.

>>212622776
>everybody hates america
This shit is especially funny given that MCU and even some DCEU movies, full of American heroes, did well there.
Hell, even Thunderbolts despite being a flop, did okay there while being way less known characters than Superman.
And of course they will be proved wrong when F4 will do okay there.

>>212623834
Yeah, even if it reaches Mo$ adjusted, it will still sell less tickets.

>>212623825
I think after the Raz encounter he gave up the no-kill because it just never comes up again.

>>212623093
That's what I knew looking at the disastrous screening reactions. Thing is movies that did terrible at TS rarely can be fixed.
Superman isn't exception.

>>212623267
It probably will in US. Movie is the garbage, RT was manipulated, critics were bribed. The moment people see it first time they won't want to watch it again.
Drop with be significant.

I hate how they will still blame MoS for killing the audience for the movie that came out 12 years later.

>>212623267
Look at mission impossible, same thing.
They are inflating the opening week BIG TIME with extensive "previews", second week will pay for it.
Actual opening week is sub 100.

>>212623913
No one hate america beyond russia, iran or whatever.
Superman is just not very interesting and people are DEAD TIRED of capeshit, even more about the marvel action comedy.

Who is the villain this time? Luthor? Again after 4 movie and tv series? Who cares.