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Anonymous No.212624965 >>212624993 >>212624994 >>212625007 >>212625046 >>212625875 >>212626194 >>212626234 >>212626905 >>212627690 >>212629216 >>212629363 >>212629388 >>212633421 >>212633854 >>212635548 >>212636020 >>212636538 >>212637684 >>212647049 >>212648220 >>212652479
Toughest scene to watch in The Sopranos ?
Anonymous No.212624981 >>212625800 >>212630082 >>212634224 >>212645411
Melfis rape
I always skip that episode
Anonymous No.212624993
>>212624965 (OP)
he had to get it on
Anonymous No.212624994
>>212624965 (OP)
That's one of the funniest.
Anonymous No.212625007
>>212624965 (OP)
Minnie Matrone? She was a malignant cunt.
>casually murders an old women to get suck up money for tony.
Anonymous No.212625046 >>212625611 >>212641033
>>212624965 (OP)
any scene with tony in it
>stabs at food with fork
>scrapes it together to stab it some more
>stab stab stab
>breathes heavily though nose
>next scene
>breathing heavily
>stab stab stab
Anonymous No.212625107
Any time T hit a made guy, it's gut wrenching to see
Anonymous No.212625161 >>212625200 >>212631301 >>212640919
Anonymous No.212625200 >>212631301
>>212625161
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1752327570406798.webm
Anonymous No.212625409 >>212628686 >>212628867 >>212629423 >>212632826 >>212636599 >>212639742 >>212646798 >>212650391
Anonymous No.212625611
>>212625046
always makes me hungry
Anonymous No.212625640
>i found him like dish
laugh every time
Anonymous No.212625800 >>212630133
>>212624981
Which episode? I gotta watch that
Anonymous No.212625875
>>212624965 (OP)
Silvio killing Adriana
Anonymous No.212626194 >>212626455
>>212624965 (OP)
Watching Tony dealing with his mother's death without showing any kind of emotion when he is around his guys and his family and then watching him sobbing while sitting on the couch alone. That was pretty relatable
Anonymous No.212626234 >>212626419
>>212624965 (OP)
The scene where Tony's disgusted by Paulie's simple enjoyment of a comedy television show, one he probably has fond memories of watching with his ma.
It's worse than him being disgusted by AJ's chit-chat rooms, which was somewhat justified. It speaks to Tony's shitty character and how he can't stand to see others who are genuinely happy or innocent
Anonymous No.212626419 >>212626584
>>212626234
The sacre bleu where is me mama scene is this but in its worse form. its just funny so it doesnt hit in the same way
Anonymous No.212626455 >>212626538 >>212627633 >>212628547
>>212626194
He wasn't really mourning her, he was mourning her inability to love him. His attitude when she's being carried in on the gurney in the hospital, I don't think he gave a fuck about her, it was more about himself.
Anonymous No.212626538 >>212626656
>>212626455
>I don't think he gave a fuck about her, it was more about himself.
You didn't watch season 1 huh
Anonymous No.212626584
>>212626419
>sacre bleu where is me mama
Decent pick, that scene definitely gets the point across, though Tony and Janice relationship and her history of fads and fraud makes it a bit more understandable, while still bad.
The "under the boardwalk" incident was worse, she was in a good place and he should have been happy for her and for himself as her brother, testing Bobby like that was mad niggerish behaviour
Anonymous No.212626626 >>212626732 >>212629433
>wopslop
grow up
Anonymous No.212626656 >>212626745 >>212628547
>>212626538
His pathological need to pursue his BPD mother's love and approval is entirely different from real affection and concern, you silly billy
Anonymous No.212626684 >>212626746 >>212627772 >>212632245 >>212635016
Hello Boys!
Anonymous No.212626732
>>212626626
The show doesn't depict them sympathetically, its made clear over and over again these guys are stupid assholes who basically keep getting by through sheer dumb luck
Anonymous No.212626745 >>212626852 >>212626890 >>212628547
>>212626656
I mean I can't really blame him for his attitude about her. The scene of him crying is still probably one of his most human moments.
Anonymous No.212626746
>>212626684
BAKE EM AWAY TOYS
Anonymous No.212626852 >>212628547
>>212626745
>I mean I can't really blame him for his attitude about her. The scene of him crying is still probably one of his most human moments.
right but that scene shows he really did love her under everything and just wanted some reciprocation from her back. there's another scene in many saints of newark where young tony describes one of his best memories is his mother reading to him while falling asleep (or something like that)
Anonymous No.212626890
>>212626745
Neither can I, his mistake was not recognising the futility of the situation earlier and getting over the fact that he'll never have a real mother, as Melfi basically suggested and Carmella lobbied for.
Was it Janice or another one of their siblings who got married and left for another state the night of, or am I misremembering? In any case, Olivia only caused him harm.
Anonymous No.212626905 >>212626970 >>212627494 >>212628513
>>212624965 (OP)
Sil killing Adrianna. The drive to the murder is rough.

She didn't do anything wrong really, except be stupid enough to be manipulated by the cops.
Anonymous No.212626970 >>212627494
>>212626905
She did everything wrong, she should have dumped Chris who was beating the shit out of her every single day and doing shit like killing her dog
Anonymous No.212627494
>>212626905
This anon is right >>212626970
The drive is rough but the execution being justified under their agreed rules softens it, simple cause and effect. It's no Paths of Glory
Anonymous No.212627633 >>212628452
>>212626455
Fuck no, nigga. Despite what went with his mother, Tony loved her. It was his mother after all; the woman who gave birth to him, and raised him. Despite the turbulent relationship Tony and his mother had, the emotional connection was there. You can see how Tony struggled to believe that his own mother wanted him dead in Melfi's office, and how he tried to take care of her. These were genuine tears for his mother loss
Anonymous No.212627690
>>212624965 (OP)
tony's fight with gloria where he starts choking her as she rasps out "kill me" is disturbing as fuck
Anonymous No.212627772
>>212626684
this but with meadow trying to sexy dance in front of the tv
Anonymous No.212628267 >>212632156
The one where Adrianna tries to be a music producer, or when Chris asks Hesch if the song is good, or the one where Massive G scolds Hesch about royalties…that whole episode is a skip
Anonymous No.212628452 >>212636242
>>212627633
You sound like Tony bullshitting himself about his obligations to Olivia with saccharine, sentimental crap
Anonymous No.212628513
>>212626905
she knew what she signed up for. simple as.
Anonymous No.212628547 >>212628702
>>212626852
>>212626745
>>212626656
>>212626455
This is yet another entry into the halls of
>zoomers claim melfi sucks
>then they fail to get what melfi said

Not everyone I quoted obviously but Melfi told the audience this real early, and it’s impossible to argue against

>for whatever faults you have… it’s highly unusual for a mother to want to kill her child
>it’s highly unusual for an uncle to want to kill his nephew
>they explicitly worked together in an actual, acted-out plan to kill you
>therefore they’re demons, you owe them positively nothing
>every act of kindness towards them is a form of self-hatred
And the reason she says is because it’s easier for a person to accept they’re a bad boy who deserves to die… highly preferable to the cold hard reality of “she never loved you in the first place. There is nothing you can ever do to earn that love. She’s incapable.” Like so many people Tony chose his mother’s well-being over his own.
Anonymous No.212628686
>>212625409
this is the real answer
Anonymous No.212628702
>>212628547
>every act of kindness towards them is a form of self-hatred
Which was purposefully instilled in him by his mother as a means of exploiting and destroying him.
Tony witnessed and identified this accurately when he talked about how she wore his father down to a shadow of himself.
He had rose-tinted glasses about his dad being a saint by comparison (he hated the gunshot through the beehive story being told) but he was dead right about Olivia, he failed to identify that he had a choice in the matter for himself out of the instilled guilt and blood obligation.
Anonymous No.212628867 >>212629049 >>212645503 >>212645633
>>212625409
theyre the same color lmao
Anonymous No.212628975
Any scene where AJ has to “act”. Fuck, that guy was bad. At least he realised and gave up acting to become a pro poker player.
Anonymous No.212629049 >>212629261 >>212629465 >>212629626 >>212630530 >>212641172 >>212646798
>>212628867
This scene is awful for reasons completely unrelated to race. Noah is a stuck-up narcissist with a superiority complex who is only using Meadow for sex and instantly dumps her as soon as he's bored of her.
Anonymous No.212629188 >>212629226
Vito and Johnny
Anonymous No.212629216 >>212629254
>>212624965 (OP)
[__Andrea__]'s death. The only death you genuinely feel bad for. It's weird because even though you know what's happening and you know it's coming it still somewhat shocks you when it actually happens
Anonymous No.212629226
>>212629188
that was some of the best writing in the show
Anonymous No.212629254
>>212629216
Dammit I forgot to add the spoilers and it won't let me delete.
[__Andrea__]'s death. The only death you genuinely feel bad for. It's weird because even though you know what's happening and you know it's coming it still somewhat shocks you when it actually happens
Anonymous No.212629261 >>212629334
>>212629049
So, he acts like Tony
Anonymous No.212629334 >>212629370 >>212629548 >>212636621
>>212629261
And Jackie Jr too. The difference is tony doesn't manipulate and take advantage of anyone like meadow in the show
Anonymous No.212629363 >>212629454
>>212624965 (OP)
any time Ben Kingsley is on camera, he can't act
Anonymous No.212629370 >>212629999
>>212629334
>Tony didn't manipulate his own daughter
he was a saint
Anonymous No.212629388 >>212636577
>>212624965 (OP)
Probably a weird choice because Janice is such a cunt, but for me it's when Tony makes her lose her shit after her anger management. It's just extremely low.
Anonymous No.212629395
I skipped the seventh eighth and ninth mistress tony had
It was just filler at that point
At least when they were repeating story lines with Feech and others they were interesting
Anonymous No.212629423
>>212625409
This kills the chudster
Anonymous No.212629433
>>212626626
Thanks bro. Woke me up from this nightmare with that zinger
Anonymous No.212629454 >>212629980
>>212629363
There’s a bit where he in that episode where he insists that Chris and his stooge refer to him as “Sir Ben”, and that’s something Kingsley does IRL. He throws a strop on set if somebody just calls him Ben. I don’t know what would happen if you called him Krishna, which is his real name.
Anonymous No.212629465
>>212629049
Well isn't that every tvcel wet dream?
Anonymous No.212629548 >>212629999
>>212629334
U wut? Tony is a patholigical liar ready to scam or lean on his oldest friends for money lmao
Anonymous No.212629626 >>212630209
>>212629049
Given how things went for Finn, he made the correct choice.
Anonymous No.212629980
>>212629454
unsurprising
Anonymous No.212629999
>>212629370
>>212629548
Esl or no reading comprehension call it.
He never does anything like this to anyone as vulnerable or as empathetic to us as meadow. The closest is maybe Adrianna but that didn't technically happen.
Anonymous No.212630082
>>212624981
Lmao pussy
Anonymous No.212630133
>>212625800
Employee of the Month
its kino but the worst part is the very end.
Anonymous No.212630209 >>212630306 >>212636323
>>212629626
Finn is like charmagne bucco, they both made a conscious decision to reject a connection to organized crime despite the benefits. Noah just got what he wanted and left.
Anonymous No.212630257 >>212636367
Any scene where Tony's mother speaks
Anonymous No.212630306
>>212630209
Finn nearly got raped/murdered, bloodied his hands by singing Vito's death warrant, and had to deal with Meadow's histrionic bitching. He left, but not unscathed.
Anonymous No.212630350 >>212630603 >>212630688 >>212646812
>renders an entire episode unwatchable
Anonymous No.212630530 >>212630567
>>212629049
>unrelated
Anonymous No.212630567 >>212636367
>>212630530
that gif makes my dick hard
Anonymous No.212630603 >>212630793
>>212630350
you just hate black people
Anonymous No.212630615
Anonymous No.212630688
>>212630350
That's the episode where Adriana is in that red dress. Come on.
Anonymous No.212630793
>>212630603
yes
Anonymous No.212631301 >>212631345 >>212636402 >>212636402
>>212625161
>>212625200
Why did both The Sopranos and Breaking Bad have their own horrifically cringey renditions of this song? It's a strange coincidence
Anonymous No.212631345 >>212631576
>>212631301
>coincidence
BrBa probably just did it as the Sopranos reference.
Anonymous No.212631466 >>212631634
Anonymous No.212631576
>>212631345
I always assumed that, it's too much of coincidence. Especially since vince gilligan has said many times that brbad wouldn't have been possible without the sopranos
Anonymous No.212631634 >>212631717
>>212631466
He really is Livia's son.
Anonymous No.212631717 >>212631780
>>212631634
he was right though, she really did abandon her son and let him live as a crack addicted homeless teenager
Anonymous No.212631780 >>212632294 >>212636441
>>212631717
Yeah, but he didn't really give a shit about Hal. He was just seething that Janice was seemingly happier than him.
Anonymous No.212631947 >>212632170 >>212632378 >>212636495
Any episode were AJ gets too much sreen time.
How come Meadow understood how shit worked but he never did?
Anonymous No.212632156 >>212637886
>>212628267
>whose welfare check do i have to cash to get a burger around here
>my people were the white man's nigger while yours were chasing zebras
>STAY OUT OF OUR WAY, AND DON'T BE SO GAY
it had its moments
Anonymous No.212632170
>>212631947
"The world needs ditch-diggers too!"
He's literally just stupid, that's it. He inherited most of Tony's character flaws but none of his intelligence.
Anonymous No.212632245
>>212626684
Would.
Anonymous No.212632294
>>212631780
yeah i don't deny that. at the same time i don't really care because it's janice
Anonymous No.212632378 >>212632402
>>212631947
>Only graduates high school because his mob-related family leaned on the teachers. Isn't it obvious?
Anonymous No.212632402
>>212632378
damn i fucked up the meme arrows
Anonymous No.212632826 >>212633052 >>212646534
>>212625409
She’s literally brown, like actually, and not even in the “Italians aren’t white” way. They just took a Hispanic Jew mix, called her Italian, then shows her getting fucked by some Black Jew mix and tried to pass it off as some sort of own against whites.
Anonymous No.212633052 >>212633271
>>212632826
watch the show
Anonymous No.212633271
>>212633052
I did, I’m referring to the actor and the actress, not the characters.
Anonymous No.212633421
>>212624965 (OP)
Vito blowing the security guard.
Anonymous No.212633854 >>212636540
>>212624965 (OP)
When Hunter got into med school.
Anonymous No.212634224 >>212634590 >>212641311 >>212641586 >>212641865
>>212624981
I'll say it again. Tony should have orchestrated the rape, as a ploy to get her to ask him for a "favor" thus always having something over her so she never goes to the cops on him. Her refusing going through with it still satisfies Tony because she's principled and wouldn't betray their professional trust.

This is the only way the rape episode doesn't come out of nowhere, and makes it better.

>inb4, no Tony is a good guy

No. He. Is. Not.
Anonymous No.212634520
There’s a really awkward edit in one of the thanksgiving episodes where tony is looking at meadow in the kitchen and it briefly puts Tracee in her place to remind the audience she was meadows age.
Anonymous No.212634590 >>212634714
>>212634224
Not a good guy, but has a vague sense of standards. Even hitting women is a taboo in his crew, and his idea of touching the dark is recruiting Furio and having him rough up a late payment couple at one of his lowest points. What you’re proposing would have been wildly out of character. He’s a manchild with too much attachment to innocent symbols of childhood like the animals in his life, and most of his romantic interests (INCLUDING Melfie mind you) are his attempts to get something he never did from his mother. Certainly someone else in the cast would do it, but not Tony.
Anonymous No.212634714
>>212634590
That’s more of a leotardo thing, or maybe Paulie.
Anonymous No.212635016
>>212626684
This. This is the answer.
Anonymous No.212635548
>>212624965 (OP)
That was funny though lmao
Anonymous No.212636020 >>212636086 >>212636632 >>212639542 >>212641329 >>212646341
>>212624965 (OP)
What's the point of The Sopranos? They're all sociopathic monsters. It's like watching a bunch of animals kill each other. What are you supposed to get out of this?
Anonymous No.212636086 >>212636569
>>212636020
The sopranos is literally the greatest comedy and character study of the 21st century. Go watch Superman
Anonymous No.212636242 >>212639365 >>212640824
>>212628452
You just reveal your own ignorance
Anonymous No.212636323
>>212630209
Finn was a nice guy though and she was a bit of a cunt.
Anonymous No.212636367
>>212630257
Oh poor you.
>>212630567
Fucking queer
Anonymous No.212636402
>>212631301
>>212631301
Breaking bad ripped off heaps of stuff from the sopranos.
Anonymous No.212636441
>>212631780
He offered to fly him out for livia's funeral.
Anonymous No.212636495
>>212631947
Filtered faggot
Anonymous No.212636538
>>212624965 (OP)
Chrissy choking Ade
Anonymous No.212636540
>>212633854
Awkward kino
Anonymous No.212636569
>>212636086
What study? They all start out as bad people, and they all die as bad people. They all pretend to have honor and comradery, but sell each other out or outright murder each other for nothing.
Anonymous No.212636577
>>212629388
I'M NOT

LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE
Anonymous No.212636599 >>212636655 >>212648186
>>212625409
>same skin color
>hes supposed to be black
2000 was a different time.
Anonymous No.212636621
>>212629334
have some respect for his fatha
Anonymous No.212636632
>>212636020
Im embarrassed, for you.
Anonymous No.212636645
Anonymous No.212636655 >>212636723
>>212636599
meadow herself is black, livia said so when she has a baby.
Anonymous No.212636723 >>212637003
>>212636655
Mary DeAngelis said Med was dark when she was born, you fucking casual.
Anonymous No.212637003
>>212636723
I'm not naming any names
Anonymous No.212637684
>>212624965 (OP)
all the scenes with Dave the gambling addict. I skip entire episodes of season 2 because his storyline makes me cringe too much
Anonymous No.212637886
>>212632156
It's still a skip every time for me but I do think the stuff with Tony and Cusamano is important and provides some insight for why Tony isn't "friends" with many regular people
Anonymous No.212639365 >>212639438 >>212641277
>>212636242
ESL go
Anonymous No.212639438 >>212639545
>>212639365
You couldnt even get the characters name right, you dumb fuck.
Anonymous No.212639542 >>212646841
>>212636020
Not all characters are supposed to be life answers or self inserts. Sometimes watching people fail is important in learning how to succeed.
Anonymous No.212639545
>>212639438
BLOODY YOU FUCKING BLOODY TYPO BECHOD BITCH ARGUMENT INVALID!!
Anonymous No.212639742 >>212641253 >>212641309 >>212645046
>>212625409
oh my gawd she's so dark
Anonymous No.212640824
>>212636242
you go about in pity for yourself
Anonymous No.212640919 >>212641295 >>212643201
>>212625161
this one is the one that makes me cringe, its just creepy in a way that i cannot explain nor comprehend but i react to it the same way i would react to walking past maggot infested roadkill
Anonymous No.212641033 >>212641481
>>212625046
I can't tell if this is poor attempts to keep food on the plate consistent across different takes or if Tony just enjoys playing with his food
Anonymous No.212641070
>Watch it, Anthony
Anonymous No.212641172
>>212629049
He was so horned up after popping meadows cherry and sodomizong Caitlyn with the New York Times he took a semester in Europe to slay more white bitches. Even Catmella was made ripe for him.
>she would have been better off with that black kid
Anonymous No.212641253
>>212639742
Damn..
Anonymous No.212641277
>>212639365
GEORGE WASHINGTON BREEEDGE
Anonymous No.212641295
>>212640919
tony is basically thinking "my father abandoned his family for THIS?" and you're meant to feel the same way
Anonymous No.212641309
>>212639742
It’s difficult to judge how dark because the sopranos existed in the tanning bed and bronzer era of the 00s.
Anonymous No.212641311
>>212634224
Tony isn't fucking insane lmao
Anonymous No.212641329 >>212641691 >>212641900 >>212642046 >>212646841 >>212649634
>>212636020
The point is to autofellate oneself because you're so smart and such a good little cuck that you recognize how toxic masculinity is and how racist and sexist America and Italians are and how screwed over the Native Americans were and how much smarter and better black people are than white people. That's it. That was the purpose of it's creation and that's the reason it's so popular.
Anonymous No.212641415 >>212641690
Kinda off topic but is there a show that sort of had similar humour as the sopranos?
Anonymous No.212641481
>>212641033
Most scenes with food are around a big table with many eaters, Tony specifically fucks around with it to the point of overacting once you notice it. Just a subtle but undeniable-when-you-see-it allegory.
Anonymous No.212641586 >>212645084
>>212634224
this shit is retarded dog
Anonymous No.212641690
>>212641415
breaking bad
Anonymous No.212641691 >>212642891
>>212641329
meds. now.
Anonymous No.212641865
>>212634224
I dont think in even the darkest corners of America you can pay a nigger to rape an old hag psychiatrist in a parking lot stairwell
Anonymous No.212641900 >>212642891
>>212641329
discontinue the lithium
Anonymous No.212642046 >>212642891 >>212643376
>>212641329
t. AJ
Anonymous No.212642891
>>212642046
AJ was a retarded lib though, right? Idk I don't watch slop
>>212641691
>>212641900
Sorry I insulted you favorite Reddit show.
Anonymous No.212643201 >>212643878 >>212650756
>>212640919
I hate how people like you exist. You're too fucking retarded to understand anything.
Anonymous No.212643376 >>212647875
>>212642046
You make AJ look like a scholar. You dumb fuck
Anonymous No.212643878
>>212643201
yeah i can explain exactly why it's uncomfortable in like three different ways

1. she's trying way too hard to be sexy considering her age, both showing that she peaked in her 20s and that she never got over that part of her life

2. she fucked his dad and now she's kind of coming on to him, it's implied in her other scenes

3. tony is thinking about how his father picked this vapid narcissist to basically live with as a second wife and drove the family further apart, also he's thinking about the miscarriage thing as described in the show
Anonymous No.212644600 >>212645170
The Bear Episode

https://youtu.be/mzGJTMICcDs
Anonymous No.212645046 >>212645488
>>212639742
>Mad ripe
Anonymous No.212645084 >>212646777
>>212641586
Anonymous No.212645170
>>212644600
Satanic black magic, sick shit. Stop posting your garbage here, faggot. Im fed up with you.
Anonymous No.212645411 >>212645918
>>212624981
I don't skip the episode but I fast forward through the actual rape. The rest of the episode is good.
Anonymous No.212645488
>>212645046
she's creamin for me
Anonymous No.212645503
>>212628867
they're both jews
Anonymous No.212645633
>>212628867
Meadow is darker
Anonymous No.212645918
>>212645411
They're so turned on
Anonymous No.212646341
>>212636020
why zoomies are like this
Anonymous No.212646534
>>212632826
They needed the muttmerican audience
Anonymous No.212646710 >>212646885 >>212646886
Anything scene this creature.
Anonymous No.212646777 >>212650041
>>212645084
Every single fucking day.
Anonymous No.212646798 >>212646922
>>212625409
>>212629049
This faggot yes but also the scene when he's telling Meadow how he was about to knock Tony out for being a racist and blablabla like what the fuck is this faggot talking about, you're half of tony's height and weight wtf

Worst fucking character of the series
Anonymous No.212646812
>>212630350
So true. Massive Genius lol why did they name him that
Anonymous No.212646841
>>212639542
The problem is that EVERY character in The Sopranos is a sociopath without exception. It's not just one or two or ten. Literally all of them, except for a few of the "civilians" kill each other without batting an eyelash. Even Big Puss' death barely affects them, despite how built up it is.

>>212641329
I don't think you're entirely wrong, but David Chase seems like a schizo himself, who toggles between respecting these people and hating their guts at the same time. He goes out of his way to make the mob more evil than they were in real life, then blows up at the idea that people wanted to see Tony get killed.
Anonymous No.212646885
>>212646710
Filtered faggot
Anonymous No.212646886 >>212646930
>>212646710
>Anything scene this creature.
Anonymous No.212646922
>>212646798
I dont think you understand what a bad character is.
Anonymous No.212646930
>>212646886
I swear I'm American.
Anonymous No.212647049
>>212624965 (OP)
Jamal Ginsburg taking Meadow's virginity. Sickening. And I'll tell you something, she won't be allowed in our ethnostate no more.
Anonymous No.212647875
>>212643376
So you finally read a book and it’s bullshit
Anonymous No.212648186
>>212636599
There's an episode of Seinfeld where Elaine can't tell if a man she's dating is black. You could get away with a lot on 240p CRTs.
Anonymous No.212648220
>>212624965 (OP)
Eugene's suicide and the Fran Felstein singing Happy Birthday Mr President
Anonymous No.212648338 >>212650648
Toughest to watch? The pilot. It's like a spoof of what the show became. I skip the whole first season on rewatches. So cringe.
Anonymous No.212649634 >>212650697 >>212650697
>>212641329
>David Chase wasn’t trying to make a moral parable or a heroic rise-and-fall story. He was holding up a mirror to American culture:
>A country that talks about honor, loyalty, and family values, but worships power, money, and self-interest.
>A society where therapy and self-help are used as self-justification, not self-improvement.
>A people who believe they’re basically good, despite doing awful things all the time.
So the show is about how America is bad?
Anonymous No.212650041
>>212646777
Check'd
You're thinking of another dog but I'll let it slide
Actually no wait fuck you. I'm calling ICE
Anonymous No.212650391 >>212650576
>>212625409
Why would David Chase do this? It's clear from the rest of the series that he is not very fond of moolinyans.
Anonymous No.212650576
>>212650391
>Why would David Chase do this
Self hatred. Imagine how his daughter must have felt?? fuckk
Anonymous No.212650648 >>212650704
>>212648338
Filtered
Anonymous No.212650697
>>212649634
>>212649634
More about how people and society at large are hypocritical and not honest with themselves in general, it doesn't just apply to America either.
Anonymous No.212650704
>>212650648
No. I filter. LOL
Anonymous No.212650756 >>212651141
>>212643201
>You're too fucking retarded to understand anything.
yes, i also dont pretend to understand everything like you, a very effeminate trait
Anonymous No.212651141 >>212651324
>>212650756
It wasnt a complicated or esoteric scene. You're just fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.212651324
>>212651141
okay m'lady
Anonymous No.212652479 >>212652538 >>212652674
>>212624965 (OP)
Tony Egg.

Junior's dementia progression is hard to watch since the people around him don't take it seriously and the chance to try to help him and settle his affairs in good time just passes them by. This is what happens to a lot of old people without families (though he did have the fat retard Bobby). When Tony has his heart to heart and asks "don't you love me?" to Junior, it's already too late for that kind of conversation. Tony's talking to a guy that isn't there anymore and many of us will have that moment with a loved one since alzheimers is so common.

It might be accidental, but Junior crying, but unable to just say "I do" to Tony, is also very real. Dementia makes people more alexithymic so in emotional situations like that they'll confusedly cry, get angry or scared instead of reacting more appropriately. You can't emotionally connect with someone like that anymore. Back when I first watched the scene I thought Junior is just a vain old school tough guy wop who always keeps his guard up so he'd never say "I love you" to his nephew sincerely, but cracks since he really does love Tony. Seeing it again, I think he's just almost fully gone at that point and confused, he feels something strong but can't tell what exactly so he cries. This also effectively tells the audience that Junior does love Tony (later some of his last memories are that he often played catch with Tony), but Tony is unsure since Junior's not clear enough about it.
Anonymous No.212652538
>>212652479
>I think he's just almost fully gone at that point
Let's not forget that June played up the old senile part to a tee
Anonymous No.212652674
>>212652479
Junior flashes a really scared face for a split second at times when anything happens like someone just normally talking to him. It's fucking eerie if you've ever seen a family member with dementia, great acting.