Thread 212629659

>The international numbers are terrible.

>Domestic is boring. Its not over performing or under performing in that market.

But, overseas...yikes. 250m International final total.

This movie tops out at 550 Mil Worldwide

Pathetic after all that hype

>Less than the marvels and the flash in china
Lol

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO


GUNNBROS?

So this is the power of pg cringe Superman garbage? Well done

>>212629659 (OP)
A tremendous success, and an auspicious start for the new DCEU

>>212629659 (OP)
>This movie tops out at 550 Mil Worldwide
Mario and Stitch rapes it easily.

jeets referring to their own country as "overseas" is weird

>>212629659 (OP)
China hates it because of Trump's tarrifs. This is something of a boycott based on Americans political actions.
Japan hates it because American streamers and modern American imperialism ruined their peaceful life
Europe hates it because it has capeshit fatigue

>America: the Superhero
>is less popular outside of America

>>212629659 (OP)
Next time don't turn Superman into an anti-Semitic symbol, and the world won't reject it.

>>212629659 (OP)
Fuck pedophile Gunn

>>212629659 (OP)
While it would be ridiculous to suggest that WB and David Zaslav are over the moon about this result, they would obviously want this movie to be a roaring success, I think they're satisfied overall.

The DC brand as a whole has been damaged to a point that you can't really expect a new Superman movie to hit a billion dollars, or anything close to that. It's going to take some time for them to heal the box-office.

The first and foremost goal for James Gunn and his Superman was to restore audience goodwill. And while that road is still going to be long as hell, I think they did as good of a job as they could for now.

The true test for James Gunn and the DC Universe moving forward is going to be the other projects that he has lined up.

And hey, at the very least, this movie did not flatline the way that Black Adam and The Flash did.

>>212632386
Literally no country in the world other than the US likes Israel. That's not why global audiences are rejecting the movie. Not to mention David Corenswet is Jewish. Being Jewish =/= Being Zionist

>>212632421
Which Reddit post did you copy this from

On the way to the kinohaus, Europeans have to dodge acid attacks, trucks of peace and sharia patrols taking their daughters for their virgin harem. No wonder it tanked there.

>>212632600
Why is everything Reddit with you people? Rent free

>>212632328
Can a foreigner explain why Superman is too American but Spiderman, who is beloved overseas, isn't?
He's literally from New York, his costume is red white and blue, the daily bugle is modeled after the NY Post (in the raimi movies anyways), the American flag scenes in the Raimi movies, the locations in the stories are mostly based off of real places in NYC, etc
Spiderman is only behind Captain America and Superman in Americaness

>>212633483
I'll explain if you pay the 50% answer a question tariff.

>>212633483
that is new shill tactic - to excuse poor performance with everyone suddenly hating american superhero

>>212633483
Spider-Man is a hero from America, Superman has historically been so tied to America it’s hard to separate no matter how hard they try.

>>212633483
I'd guess that the US is so infantilised that they'll swallow this latest rubbish without hesitation. that might be the difference

>>212633483
Peter Parker is an outcast hero, he has to fight against the system and criminals.
He is not defined by being from NYC, or his costume, he is defined by being the man that can beat all odds.
Compare the motto of Spider-Man and Superman. Great Power, Great responsability with Truth and the american way.

>>212633483
It's just the history, 'The American way' was part of Superman's motto for most of his existence, he's been used as a propaganda piece in wars. Spider-Man is just a kid from Queens.

>>212629659 (OP)
How much is it doing domestic?

>>212633483
Man of Steel and it's sequels/spin off's did well overseas
You dumb Americans keep wanting to do stupid goofy shit which is the opposite of what most people want

Your heroes are supposed to be myths and legends something to aspire to
Making Superman a retarded millennial jew isn't something aspirational

>>212633483
This movie in particular is about america and america's issues, Gunn said as much. The last superman movie did fine overseas because it was an alien invasion flick. So it's not Superman himself that's the problem

>>212633483
Spider-Man can work anywhere. There isn't anything exclusively American about him.

>america: the character
>after drumpf sharting all over america's reputation
Yeah that's to be expected

>>212634094
Snyder's movies flopped at the height of the super hero craze. There's nothing cool about making Superman an evil cuckold.

>>212629659 (OP)
The Trump Effect.

American culture is being rejected.

>>212634094
>You dumb Americans keep wanting to do stupid goofy shit which is the opposite of what most people want
Older kids and teens think the goofy shit's lame and gay and want something dark and cool.

>>212633991
Good. Good reviews and audience scores really boosted it.

>>212633483
I honestly have no clue. I always saw Superman as a hero for the world. I have no idea why anyone would so strongly associate him with America. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Has Superman ever said something out loud referencing America in the comics?

>>212634258
None of his movies flopped

>>212634258
>Snyder's movies flopped
MoS did $904 million, making it the 2nd highest grossing Superman movie of all time. BVS is the 2nd highest grossing one with Superman in it. These movies made money, just not as much as WB wanted.

>>212629659 (OP)
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/day/1st-friday

>>212633483
Superman stands for Truth, Justice and the American Way. Unfortunately the global public perception of the American Way is drone striking hospitals, cheering for genocide and starting wars everywhere.
Spider-Man is just some dude who believes in helping people. He's not for America or even with America, he just happens to be from America and living in America.

>>212634408
It wasn't so much the flopping that hurt them. It was the polarizing and ultimately negative reception. Which is why the DC has the stain on its reputation as it does now and the movies struggle to make money.
Although, if we're being honest, I think WB is lying themselves a bit. They hope that repairing the brand will be the thing that saves them. But look at other movies at the box office right now. Look at Marvel. Things are bad everywhere.

>>212634524
>It was the polarizing and ultimately negative reception.
From fat nerds like Mark Waid. Normal people liked it fine enough.

>>212634408
> MoS did $904 million,

Lying about this won’t make it true bro

>>212634743
With current inflation, it sure did.

>>212634155
I didn't see it in the movie, the only thing is the two fake countries being similar to Israel and Palestine but that's really it

Domestic is good, wtf?
>125m
Second best opening

>>212634904
It needs more than domestic to be successful, bro. That's what happens when you unnecessarily balloon your budgets. You need to make a shit ton of money back to make a profit, and the US ain't enough to do that.

Literally 25 threads about Superman on /tv/'s catalog right now.

>>212634781
No it doesn’t. Studios don’t give a fuck about muh adjusted for inflation. You’re also dismissing MOS came out during the 3D craze where tickets where 16.

>>212629659 (OP)
This is fine because Superman is on track to make 700 million domestically.

>>212635007
>Studios don’t give a fuck about muh adjusted for inflation
Because they've already gotten their money when they did. The point is to show how much it was worth NOW to compare to their current projects. It's to prevent misunderstandings.

>>212635040
>This is fine because Superman is on track to make 700 million domestically.
Source?

>>212635121
His ass that Gunn just used.

>>212633595
Sure. Your country already had that anyways

>>212629659 (OP)
>it's a failure!
>didn't make back production cost!
>abysmal overseas!
>THE MESSAGE

>>212633483
>Can a foreigner explain why Superman is too American
He isn't. To me this whole conversation just shows where most of the Gunnverse fanbase lies on the political spectrum. They were likely expecting Superman's performance to repudiate MoS and with it a grounded, gritty, high energy, "bro" take on capeshit. It's just the latest "battle" over who gets to be the target audience of male entertainment franchises.

pic related is snyder era kino inflation-adjusted. (you can tell as soon as he was kicked out, DC never recovered)

>>212634258
The fuck are Gunn's DC movies then? Snyder's DC movies either made 700mi (back than) or near 1bi (BvS did around 900mi didn't?), those are really good numbers for an starting universe, alot more than MCU's starting movies. After Snyder's exite, DC barely hit 500mi (Aquaman, SS and WW were connected to his plans for the future JL movies).

>>212635121
The great WOM as a result of all the great audience reviews/reception. It's going to do a Top Gun Maverick.

>>212629659 (OP)
Blame trump and his retarded tarriff wars.

>>212635259
Don't bully the Gunnpedo.

>>212634291
American culture is still everywhere, it might take the rest of the century for people to completely abandon it, if it even goes that far

>>212635301
>The great WOM as a result of all the great audience reviews/reception.
So out your ass then. Figures.

>>212635213
this is not inflation adjusted, Man of steel would be a billion today

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>>212634997
I know all i said was that domestic is good not boring, the budget situation is better than MI:8 400m for no reason

>>212634904
This is just disneyshills coping because their last movie bombed harder than Nagasaki and F4 has flop written all over it, this flick looks like it's doing well

>>212635213
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>>212635371
Keep seething. So far it's off to a better start donestically than top gun maverick. Maverick made 52 million on Friday while superman made 56 million. Superman is guaranteed to make 700+ million domestically and at least 300 million overseas.

>>212635487
Snyder was gone before Aquaman.

>Keep seeing fanboys and retards that don't know how Box Office works 99.9% of the time cope about this movie not flopping

Either that or they're basing it off old information/hype from the previews/reviews

The hard reality is that due to the overseas box office being outright terrible Superman 2025 is going to struggle to even hit $625M and that's going on a best case scenario (Fantastic Four is outright mid or bad) and allows it more room to breath/get legs

There's multiple reasons for why this might be the case but sandwiching it inbetween 2 massive IP's the international audiences care about more certainly didn't help
I know Gunn had some faggy thing about it being his dead dad's birthday but that seemed like just a excuse to force the movie to stay in its slot instead of WB panicking and moving it (Which they should have done)

>>212629659 (OP)
Superman and the DC Universe can join Batgirl in the dustbin of history.

>>212635357
Lol wtf did Brazil do

>>212635604
Just screencap the shill posts to make a thread laughing at these retards in 2 weeks.

>>212629659 (OP)
Just seen this movie and I can say that they made Boravia way too evil for it to be realistical.
I mean, yeah, it's a superhero movie so it's not supposed to be realistical, but c'mon: there's no way in reality that a government would invade another country and start killing defenseless civilians that's way too evil.

Why is superman so weak

>>212633483
Spiderman represents the American working man, Superman represents the demonic American military industrial complex. We love Americans but hate the American government.

>>212635651
It's funny how Gunnkeks blame Snyder but never say a word against Hamada when the later's era is full of flops compared to Snyder's. I wish WB had released the turd Batgirl flick just to see these kek never say a word about it.

Snyderbros won. Permanently

>>212635687
Brazilian Trump is facing trial for his supporters storming the capitol and Trump wants him acquitted.

Mario and Stitch raping it should tell you something.

>>212629659 (OP)
Ok so beating MoS is looking like a pipedream. We need to surpass LittyGods first to claim victory

>>212635796
You jeets said the same exact thing before the review embargo lifted. You all are underestimating how great the legs will be for this movie.

>>212635551
Holy cope

>>212634743
Right. Man of Steel got $670 million and the reboot won't even tought that unadjusted for inflation kek. MoS also got more than half of the box office from overseas.

>>212635964
They majorly fucked up by killing Dr Fate

>>212635604
>Fantastic Four is outright mid or bad
TBF, this is almost guaranteed. The leaks make it clear it's going to be atrocious.

>>212636220
You'll be massively coping when superman is a financial success.

>>212633483
Spider-Man can notoriously represent everyone. Place him in any country and you'll still have the relatable tale of the human condition. Superman is just flat out unrelatable, born from another planet with existing godlike powers isn't as relatable as a down on his luck guy who although has godlike powers, has to worry about keeping his loved ones alive and struggling with issues of love, tragedy, doubt, etc.

>>212629659 (OP)
>Capeshit is dying as we speak
Feels real good

>>212637457
>Superman is just flat out unrelatable, born from another planet with existing godlike powers
It'd be fine if we started from the beginning and had Clark grow his powers over time. Maybe train with Martian Manhunter or something.

>>212637709
The only time he was ever remotely relatable was him being a teen in the 2000s in Smallville and as an allegory for autistic kids in Man of Steel. Even then the writers of Smallville admitted to basing Clark and his life off Spider-Man which is also why they got to write Spider-Man 2.

>>212637786
>which is also why they got to write Spider-Man 2.
Damn, good for them.

trump killed this movie

>>212629659 (OP)
>superpower declines after conflict overseas

>>212636264
The world wanted the conclusion to the Snyderverse, but instead they gave us Gunsloppa for little piggies.