>supposedly "the best TV show ever"
>zero cultural impact
>completely irrelevant now

>>212659284 (OP)
not true at all
at least 20% of guys in their mid 30's still base their entire personalities off of people from this show

It was always a little too pretentious for me, even compared to the Sopranos. My top 5 would probably be:

1. The Sopranos
2. True Detective s1
3. Justified
4. The Shield
5. Breaking Bad

>>212659284 (OP)
and yet you're still talking about it.

>>212659324
but how many of them have actually fucked a waitress effortlessly

>>212659324
>base their entire personalities off of people from this show
Yeah, all those iconic characters like uhhh...

>>212659356
Johnny 50

>>212659284 (OP)
around 2 months ago the best chess player in the world tweeted a omar quote after blowing the fuck out the jeet """"""""""""""""""""""""world champion""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>212659284 (OP)
>completely irrelevant now
Is it?

you have to be very invested in studying black criminals to like it

Many such cases

>supposedly "the best anime ever"
>zero cultural impact
>completely irrelevant now

>>212659331
Good ranking. I haven't seen Justified but loved The Shield, what am I in for?
>>212660083
After Obama's second term it aged like milk. This is the problem to have a sole political message in your show, it might backfire sometime in the near future.

>>212659331
>2. True Detective s1
How to spot the brainlet.
Show filled with cliches and empty banalities sold as deep philosophy.
If you mention a show being pretentious, True Detective S1 is the king of the category.
People only love it because of the "literally me" element, that helps them dramatize their mediocrity.

>>212660126
That's tricky since none anime had a cultural impact in the west. I don't know if it's the best one but it's up there with Lain, NHK and the original Berserk.

>>212659284 (OP)
its only popular in america because they worship nigs

>>212659356
Bubbles
literally me

>>212660192
>singling out true detective in a top 5 list than includes bb the shield and fucking justified
you are such an unbelievable pleb and clearly a plot fag too, ever heard of direction,acting, atmosphere?
TD s1 is a masterpiece

>>212660199
It had no cultural impact in Japan either. It's viewed as positively there as we weebs view it here. But there are very, very few shows and manga, both modern and from that time, that try to go for a similar "intellectual" tone of a western prestige drama. Monster is one, for example.

>>212660215
I'm italian and insanely racist like if I could press a button and have every nigger on the planet die a slow painful death I'd do it in an heart beat and I still liked the wire a lot, it's just a very good series

>>212659284 (OP)
obama said its good or something

>>212660126
Mainstream anime fandom is bunch of retarded autistic horny teenagers with shitty dumbfuck opinions though

>>212659284 (OP)
The Shield was the only show to correctly portray blacks whilst you were still allowed to do that. The Wire was just boring black glazing bullshit

>>212659324
I've been basing most of my life off of Ziggy without even knowing it.

>>212659331
get this lame away from me

>>212660325
Monster? Come on, it's good but there are better anime series. Fun fact, the spanish dub was superior to the original in that one.

>>212660074
This pretty much sums it up. Everybody I knew in high school watched and enjoyed The Wire, but in the end it was all about Omar quotes, le chess metaphor and the crime scene where Bunk and Jimmy say fuck a lot

>>212660275
I prefer shows with depth like peaky blinders

>>212660449

>>212660192
The only other one from that list I watched is Breaking Bad, Wich isn't pretentious at all, if anything it achieves character depth untouched by Pizzolatto, while also delivering pulp fun.
Maybe the other shows mentioned are also pretentious crap, I dunno.
Yeah TD has good atmosphere, but it's basic neo-noir vibes, nothing unique.

>>212660533
Shield and Justified are even less pretentious than BrBa so you're wrong.

>>212659284 (OP)
Relevance and cultural impact aren't quantifiable and also don't make any difference on my opinion, which is that The Wire is the height of great television.

>>212659284 (OP)
I can never make it past the first half of the first season because none of the characters appeal to me. The setting is dreary. All the cops use cop jargon. And all the drug dealers use ghetto slang. The show is just too difficult to become immersed in.

>>212660533
Meant for>>212660275
Also>>212660449
Obviously something like Peaky Blinders is significantly worse than TD, but it's only liked by thirties and actual clinical retards, no point in picking on it.
I criticize TD because its often mentioned as high quality writing for television.
Everybody knows Peaky is dogshit.

Too many niggers in it

>>212660192
t. Skinny dying rat faced nerd
You can just TELL

>>212660275
Justified is pure kino.

https://youtu.be/sbDgZedBAc4?si=YihxzKr5_JpwbcEm

>>212660570
How am I wrong if I haven't even given a judgement on them? Again I haven't watched them, I don't know.

>>212660606
Peaky Blinders has Sherlock syndrome in that it’s a show made for dumb people who want to feel smart.

>>212660167
The political messages are timeless. They will always work. It was hardly tied into anything specific about Obama's years. Nothing ever really changes enough for the stories not to work. Great writing works that way. You can look for whatever parallels you think are in any given series and see them if you want. Doesn't mean much. If anything The Wire only grows in appreciation the more time goes by. More and more audiences are introduced and it has waves of new popularity. People are finding cool older shows all the time since the advent of streaming and on demand.

>>212660635
Lmao, says the guy that watches the show about le tormented tough cop to fill up on his masculine fantasies while spending the day wanking on Chinese cartoon imageboards.

>>212660660
Oi we’re gangsters in the time of eugenics and KKK parades. We’re going to risk our entire business to protect foreigners and niggers and stop fascism. Yeah, that tracks

>>212660570
If you think shows are "pretentious" based on style or complexity you're probably a little slow.

>>212660704
All modern brit shows are like this.
I watched one episode of Slow Horses, and they rant about islamophobia and 4chan style boards in the first 30 minutes, completely out of nowhere.

>>212660704
Tracks?

>>212660704
Fuckass Netflix morality
>We do tons of drugs and will beat a man bloody over a gambling debt. But we have a zero tolerance policy for roicism. And we ALWAYS respect women!

>>212660758
means something is consistent with what is expected or makes sense based on the situation or previous information. It can be interpreted as agreement, or as a statement that something is logical and believable.

>>212659284 (OP)
>zero cultural impact
>better than breaking bad and the sopranos

>>212660742
What're you talking about? Sopranos and Wire are more pretentious because of the direction choices like the symbolisms. These doesn't make them better or worse, is just that they have a bigger scope of themes than shows like Shield or Justified. In fact I think BrBa is the worse of them all, since it tries to do artsy perspectives and touch complex topics, but it never pays off in the end.

>>212660811
/tv/ consensus is that Shield is superior than BrBa but still inferior to Sopranos. It's still a top 5 all time great tho.

>>212659284 (OP)
It's actually more popular now than ever

>>212660948
>>212660811
the shield is a slightly better ncis or csi even putting it on the same sentence as actual good tv drams is retarded

>>212660334
You better tell the genie giving you 3 Wishes that your first wish is to make Italians white.

>>212660948
>/tv/ consensus is…
the blind leading the retarded

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTT

>Created by the cultural impact of the most overrated shows
>Zero cultural impact

>>212660996
>le all italians look like soprano characters meme
I'm a pale tall blue eyed northerner, south italians are indeed subhumans but we aren't even the same species much less the same race

>mfw the store is out of Honey Nut Cheerios

>>212659331
>true detective over the wire
Kys

>>212661483
First time I went to Italy it completely blew my mind. Italians are indeed White. Italian Americans give yall a bad name. Even in Sicily you see blonde haired blue eyed people walking about. Apparently Vikings used to run the damn place and their DNA mixed into the local population. The only thing that breaks my heart is you see Italian school classes out on field trips and they’re like 95% POOS, like wtf?!?!

>>212660811
>>212660948
>>212660978
The Shield is better than Breaking Bad, but it has a very low budget vibe. Either way, yes, it's tier bellow The Wire, The Sopranos and Mad Men but better than Breaking Bad

>>212659284 (OP)
It's no Lost, but it's a pretty good show. I'm probably never watching it again though, I've got major gangster-fatigue. Can't stand the hiphop-behavior anymore.

>>212659331
LOL

Anyone who took the time to watch it all knows its the best. Simple as.

>>212659324
>>212660224
>>212661652
BASED

>>212661652
>entertainment
>takes effort
Fuck off.