Pros:
>Fantastic Four are a well known property
>Genuine A lister in Pedro Pascal
>Story leads into the next Avengers
>Made after Disney's quality instead of quantity turnaround

Cons:
>Superhero movies in general are not doing well
>People have complained about casting
>Fantastic Four have never performed that well

>>212666150 (OP)
No, bad reviews will kill it.

T. Saw this piece of shit

>>212666150 (OP)
>ugly near wall sue storm
>forced shit actor that nobody wants
>dickhead thing
>guy from stanger things doing another shit role
casting alone will kill it

>>212666196
>T. Saw this piece of shit
Bullshit

>>212666252
>ugly Sue
KYS

>>212666150 (OP)
No it's trash watch Superman instead.

>>212666150 (OP)
Assuming it gets "good but not the best" reviews like Superman it will probably finish in the 600-700m range
>People have complained about casting
I have yet to see anyone outside of here complain about the casting other than Pascal being too old

>>212666282
Walled bogged whore. The women in superman all mog her.

>>212666282
>>ugly Sue
>KYS
she IS fucking ugly, look at the image you posted, are you blind

>>212666196
>bad reviews will kill it.
Jurassic World had them and it is doing fine.

>>212666150 (OP)
Only thing that will save it is an actual collosus galactus fight, rather than what they did with the other FF movie and made him a cosmic splodge
Shame they made siver surfer a female though, that might harm it seeing he is the most known villian of FF after doom

>>212666282
>>212666321
Kirby is not that ugly but she is in her late 30s, Pascal is pushing 50 too.

>>212666150 (OP)
As long it canibalizes Superman box office, is fine by me

>>212666370
Yeah. Kirby is fine IMO but Pedro is slightly too old for the role.

>>212666385
Indeed saaar

>>212666361
Galactus will only be walking around the city

>>212666385
That is almost a guarantee at this point.

>>212666150 (OP)
Another movie that wouldn't sell 100k in tickets if it didn't have a brand name attached. Extremely unappealing cast. Not as bad the Nolans (actual wretch inducing) but obviously there is no charisma or balls here.

>>212666150 (OP)
This Johnny casting is worse than Michael B Jordan lmao

>>212666150 (OP)
Pedro Pascal has the most astroturfed career in film history

>>212666326
JW is the only dinosaur movie and people love dinos

>>212666150 (OP)
>Pedro Pascal

Who?

>>212666282
competing against prime alba
of course she's going to look like an old hag

>>212666466
I think hes the default, nobody likes him, nobody hates him, not a good actor, not a shit actor, not white, but not not white enough people will complain easy pick so they are shoving him in everything

>>212666454
Surpassing Chris Evan casting was going to be almost impossible anyway

>>212666302
>other than Pascal being too old

it's not about him being too old. It's about him being over exposed on top of looking nothing like Reed Richards. That is what the people have been complaining about.

>>212666150 (OP)
F4 is a good example of the difference between recognition and popularity.
As a team they're mostly vestigial appendages to Dr. Doom.

It needs to be a funny number like under Rise of the Silver Surfer's box office adjusted for inflation

>>212666150 (OP)
>she/her silver surfer
Flopped before I was even aware of its existence

>>212666150 (OP)
No, it looks boring. I'm a FF fan but the cast is awful and the MCU as a whole was a mistake, I hope Superman underperforms too and capeshit as a whole dies for at least 10 good years. The problem is not even superhero movies but the overall quality of them, which is very low.

>>212666667
>F4 is a good example of the difference between recognition and popularity.
Same thing is happening with Superman now.

>>212666150 (OP)

>>212666466
That's a big list, but he is climbing it at speed and no mistake. No career at all if he wasn't a foreigner.

>>212666675
>had Doom, Silver Surfer and Galactus all in one movie and still flopped
Norrin Radd was cool, though

>>212666680
I unironically blame steaming. An increasingly high amount of capeslop exists to sell Video on demand subscriptions.

>>212666617
nobody outside of your autistic bullying victim shit refuge have been saying this, loser

>>212666150 (OP)

>Made after Disney's quality instead of quantity turnaround

Anon that´s...

>>212666680
>I hope Superman underperforms too and capeshit as a whole dies for at least 10 good years.
I still want Spawn and Ghost Rider movies.

>>212666290
It looks exactly like Superman. What's the difference?

>>212666150 (OP)
>>Genuine A lister in Pedro Pascal

>>212666845
>Star Wars
>Game of Thrones
>Last of Us

Yes

60s aesthetic FF seems like a really fun idea but all the promotional material makes the movie seem dull.

>>212666680
>the cast is awful

I think the cast is fine outside of Pascal who seems completely miscast. I think the Joseph Quinn hate ITT has to be some kind of gay community inside baseball that I am not aware of since I'm not gay and don't travel in those circles.

>>212666774
kek they've been saying this every movie now

>>212666872
>shit tv show
>shit tv show
>shit tv show
no

>>212666872
>Star Wars (where he doesn't show his face)
>Game of Thrones (everyone is embarassed to have liked it and it produced zero stars)
>Last of Us (current flop)
>0 successful films
he's a TV guy they've been trying to push as a movie star

>>212666888
Beat me to it.

I'm pretty sure this movie was concieved and created back when the blue hairs and their sympathisers still had complete control. Or at the very least had not been fully rooted out yet.

>>212666928
>0 successful films
Lets see in 2 weeks.

The best part is that their new event film Doomsday hinges on this flick just like Kang Dynasty hinged on Quantumania
if this fails they'l be scrambling again

>>212666886
Yes Pascal is by far the worst but all of them seem to lack chemistry even in the trailers. If you can't buy the family/team angle on first sight the movie is doomed.

>Phase 6 is just this movie, Spider-Man and then directly into their new Infinity War/Endgame
wtf

>>212666282
She’s really gross , shocking to think she’ll still be in the role 10 years from now

>>212666788
>I still want Spawn and Ghost Rider movies.
Me too, but in the current era they will be crap just like the rest. This genre needs a 5-10 year of total interruption.

>>212667086
You’re complaining that they’re *not* releasing tons of filler garbage in the interim?

>>212666845
>>212666872
Pedowood now has people that are A-list on social media, not movies, and that's a plague. Sydney Sweeney is the best example, her filmography is absolute shit but she's treated like an A-lister because of social media.

>>212667025
All they had to do was not have Kang job to fucking Ant Man. But they did and it simply showed how completely incompetent they were when it comes to telling any kind of compelling story. Just completely mindless. Quantumania pulled the curtain back in their whole fast food assembly line of slop philosophy. Because if anyone with any sense was in charge of writing it they would have stood up and raised their hand and said that Ant Man beating their next Thanos was retarded. But the whole MCU at that point was just one big thoughtless machine simply pumping out 'content' so a stupid decision like that made it through.

Then they just kept the mindless marching going pumping out more mindless creatively voided crap like The Marvels and Secret Invasion. It got so bad that any big name actor with a shred of dignity left said no when approached to play Reed Richards.(Jake Gyllenhaal) So they ended up settling on Pascal who will jump at anything right now to strike while the iron is hot in his career. Even though he is completely miscast.

>>212666150 (OP)
>>Superhero movies in general are not doing well
this is a lie

>>212666150 (OP)
I hate Pedo Rascal. I hope it bombs so we can finally get rid of him

>>212666385
Seething snyderjeet lmao

>>212666150 (OP)
its already selling out in the imax theaters near me.

>>212667566
NTA but the thought that this new Superman movie is even remotely on the same level as MoS is laughable. Like I'm in the theater watching it last night thinking THIS is their big reboot to start a whole new universe?...s.m.h

>>212666150 (OP)
>Genuine A lister in Pedro Pascal
Almost stopped reading there.
Your cons left out that Johnny looks like a fucking dweeb.

>>212666728
A shit version of Doom (RIP to the actor anyway, it wasn't his fault) and Galactus was a cloud.

>>212666150 (OP)
Why does this woman look like she’s bored out of her mind and not sentient in every piece of footage I see of her in this?

And why does the guy on the right look like a gay porn star?

>>212666150 (OP)
Kirby is 37 and looks older than Alba.

>>212666385
Based.

>>212666765
The old model:
Split theatrical revenue with theaters, make secondary revenue by selling physical media, make tertiary revenue through VOD and cable

The New model:
No theatrical release, never released on physcial media, used solely to try and keep people from canceling their subscriptions to a service which operates at a loss

I thought jews were supposed to be savvy businessmen

>>212667960
general audiences don't care about any of this stuff anyway
they need to make them relevant in the first place

>>212668145
>The New model:
No theatrical release, never released on physical media, used solely to try and keep people from canceling their subscriptions to a service which operates at a loss

Stock price is the only think that matters. Betting on it increasing in value (share price) is the only thing that matters. Literally nobody gives a fuck about profits if the share price goes up. In fact having profits can be seen as bad because it means you are taking money out of the business when it's in its growth phase instead of putting that money back into the business to grow it even more.

Netflix has never made a dime of profit but it took over the industry by following that blueprint exactly.

There was a window for the legacy companies like Disney to compete with Netflix but they blew it by churning out nothing but slop like Book of Boba Fett and Obi Wan and blue haired woke slop like Willow that had to be removed from the service because it was so bad.

If Disney has kept pumping it pre Endgame level quality they would have better compared with Netflix but we all know how that went.

>>212666370
Age is not a problem if she is hot and healty.
She isnt.

>>212666150 (OP)
The chick's botox/surgery face is way too distracting. It's uncanny

>>212669055
couple of years ago she was damn fine

>>212669109
then she answered the call for no fucking reason.
notice how she only ever shows us her left cheek

>>212668145
You're forgetting the part where "no physical media" means no ownership and being completely dependent on the streaming service's CURRENT YEAR redaction as the original release becomes politically "problematic".

>>212666385
jeet

I'm torn on this one being any Marvel slop with known IP does at least OK. Yet for some reason the F4 franchise is just cursed. Every single film is just absolute trash, except for Alba running around in a body suit.
Too many characters and they just never get the casting x4 and doubt they did this time either.
I'm going to assume is does mid-level capeshit box office at best. No way it's hit film. That said I was sure Titanic would flop soooooo.

Jessica Alba in the present day still looks better than Hagessa

>>212669141
yikes

>>212669558
$700-800 mil tops absolute best case scenario.

>>212666150 (OP)
No one likes the Fantastic Four. They've gone without a running book at several points due to severe unpopularity and typically show up in other books.

>>212666385
GOOD MORNING SAAAAAAAAR

>>212669904
Their comics were purposefully buried by Disney because they didn't hold the movie rights.

>>212666150 (OP)
If this version of Sue and Reed are that old, where are the kids?

600something if very good
less than 400 if bad

>>212666928
>0 successful films
Materialists is currently 2.5 times it's budget and going to make well over 3 times it's budget once foreign markets all come in. So it did very well but the funny thing is Pascal's twitterstans all complained/refused to see the movie because he just played a creepy manlet who got height surgery and was third wheel to the happy white couple in Dakota Johnson and Chris Evans.

So the point is that movie did well despite Pascal and his loser fanbase.