Thread 212672732

>WBD Boss David Zaslav Celebrates DC Win At The Box Office
But you guys told me it was a flop

tons of DCEU movies lost or barely made any money and yet they kept making them

>>212672732 (OP)
SNYDERSAARS SEETHING

BRAND = RESTORED

Zaslav doesn't browse /tv/, once he logs on tonight he'll realize the truth.

>>212672732 (OP)
This is Batman Begins of DCU

>>212672732 (OP)
It IS a flop. No one fucking likes it. If they say they did they're lying.

>>212672732 (OP)
Fucking hell they are ALL JEWS

>>212672732 (OP)
It's literally flopping overseas and opened to less than 100 mil internationally. That's abysmal. Not to mention a worse worldwide open than Quantumania. You know ...the flick naturally remembered as a flop. It's over. 500 mil worldwide ceiling

>>212672835
I like it.
I cannot tell a lie.

they also announced Wonder Woman 3 on the weekend WW84 came out

>>212672894
>Quantumania
Twice as expensive as Superman

>>212672732 (OP)
>studio guy defends movie

Whoa...

Well ackchually I think you'll find it's the most a Superman-led movie has ever made in July in an odd-numbered year, so it's actually a huge win

>>212672732 (OP)
Oh the snyderjeets aren't going to like this

>>212673033
>t. malding snydersister

>>212672756
All you need is an aquaman or barbie every once in a while. Same way Disney can seem to hemorrhage money, then release inside out 2 and everything is good and dandy again. Plus, the main way these super man brands make money is actually through merchandising. Super passive income with almost no overhead. Disney probably makes hundreds of millions on Spiderman underwear and t shirts alone.

>>212672894
Only domestic box office matters after trump tariffs

Zaslav will get the message that Gunn's DC universe is a flop in 2026 after Supergirl flops which is one of Gunn's so called DC pillars. Fucking retard Gunn ruined DC again. Supergirl will flop and make less than the Marvels.

>>212672835
I liked it. My girlfriend and sister both liked it, mainly because of the dog, but still.

>>212673151
the comparison breaks down because most MCU movies actually made tons of money. you mention Aquaman because it’s pretty much the only unassailable “W” that dc ever produced, yet by the standards of the MCU it would only have been a modest hit

>superman is just the first step
worlds finest is the second

>>212673177
>Only domestic box office matters after trump tariffs
Then they lost most of their money. No profit at all.

>>212672881
they should be all Black instead.

>>212672894
It is flopping overseas, but let's be a little less dishonest. Its only playing in 70 theaters in China, mainly in 2 cities with a ton of American expats. We can't say one way or another if it would've flopped in China without the soft ban. But yes, it is indeed flopping in China.

>>212673235
I wasn't comparing it to the MCU, no stakes in MCU vs DC, or Snyder vs Gunn or whatever. Simply saying a production company can stay afloat (key word stay afloat) if they get a big win every now and again, even with a string of losses. That is all.

A- cinemascore
PostTrack approval went down from Friday to Saturday
Demographics are terrible. Not a family movie like they wanted.
82% RT 72% Top critics
68 Metacritc
Audience score down to 93%
Domestic box office is bad
International BO is terrible
No word of mouth bump
No walk up bump

>>212673235
As of recently isnt Spiderman carrying the box office for Marvel Studios at this point? And other anon is right, its sequels like Inside Out 2 that carry Pixars vanity projects.
>inb4 they are both Disney
That is not how it works when running a media conglomerate.

>>212672824
> This is Batman Begins of DCU

Exactly what it is. Begins had to rebuild the Batman brand after people were done with Batman movies after Batman & Robin

>>212672732 (OP)
Top 5 movies that pass?

>>212672732 (OP)
>David Zaslav
Is hanging on by a very thin thread. He'll pretend anything is a "WIN" just to keep his job. And if the board finds out he still has AEW wrestling under contract, they will fire his ass.

>>212673932
All In > SNME

As long Superman isn't a The Flash-tier flop, the DCU will continue to be built up.

>>212673855
The Datk Knight was considered the greatest superhero movie of all time, not Batman Begins.

>>212673855
>Next up is our The Dark Knight: a Supergirl aimed at (young) women and Clayface

>>212673855
>batman begins
>considered one of the greatest superhero films of all time
it is literally only remembered as the film before the dark knight
>>212672824
hard agree, though
so long as it's not a megaflop like a lot of their recent superhero flicks, reviews well, and gets people interested in the world again then it's by all means a success. people seem to forget that. also the fact that gunn likely knew it wasn't going to do gangbusters and greenlit that low budget clayface movie probably so it could offset any monetary losses.

>>212673583
>No word of mouth bump
Do you go outside, or just read shit? I just got back from the bar on my lunch break. A commercial came on for it. Girl next to me, I shit you not said "Looks too silly for me, but my son wants to see it, and I kinda wanna see it to prove my theory it's bad." Then the bartender was like "My husband and son loved it when they saw it. I stayed at home, no interest." The the rest of the bar chimed in all probably gonna go see it out of curiosity. Some said because its been the first superman movie in a while so might as well, others said they had kids who wanted to see it, others said they heard their friends enjoyed it and would check it out, or they had a friend who was dying to drag them along to this shit. The last time this happened for me was barbie, which proved to have amazing legs. This is all completely anecdotal, I haven't seen it, waiting if someone will buy me a ticket, not paying for this crap. But to say word of mouth doesn't exist is silly.

>muh inflation adjustements saars!
>MoS budget
$298
>Superman budget
$225
It has never been so over for Snyderjeetos.

>>212674014
By what metric?

>>212672835
Everybody liked it except snyder pajeets and disney shills tho

>>212674248
Anons dont realize there is a world outside of the internet

>>212673583
>A- cinemascore
That's absurdly good though, why did you post it with all that mousecope?

>>212672958
He's not defending anything because he's never even heard your attacks.

>>212673984
>but WWE!
every single time

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>>212673855
Cope

>>212674114
I don't know, the monke girl still has time to OD

>>212673275
> Gunn already relying on Batman to sell tickets.
This is just the Snyderverse with a MCU coat of paint. What a joke.

>>212674162
>it is literally only remembered as the film before the dark knight
It's the best Batman film, though.

>>212674520
Monke is a term of endearment faggot. Don't use it in such a crass way.

>>212674162
Missed the point. Begins had a mediocre opening weekend and wasn’t a massive box office success. But it rebuilt the brand so people were even interested in the Dark Knight.

Bidenfags vote against their own economic interests

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>>212674465
Zaslav is a literal CHUD

>>212674248
Then the whole bar clapped!

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>>212674465
Sorry, posted wrong pic
BUT
as a re min der
Warner Bros. Discovery has around $60 billion in debt — about $35 billion is long-term debt, and the rest is short-term debt and other liabilities.

The majority of their films are box office bombs. Fantastic Beasts and the DCEU failed. Joker 2 failed. As far as I know, only Barbie, Minecraft, and Sinners have made money recently.

DC and Fantastic Beasts failed as franchises,( but reboots are imminent. )The CW was sold for zero dollars.

Zaslav’s salary in 2022 was $39.3 million. In 2021, it was $246 million

>>212673932
Zaslav has been doing exactly what he was hired to do, though.

Gunn wins

>>212674557
World's Finest would be an entire movie with Batman and Superman working together against a common enemy/enemies. Not the same as a movie where Batman tries to hunt down and kill Superman.

>>212674558
Nta, but I'm torn between 89 and begins. Returns is a phenomenal film i would like to put on top, but its more of a really good Tim Burton film with a batman veneer.

>>212674716
Appreciate the message,thought.

>>212674663
Don't believe me. I wouldn't either. I'm a dude who goes to get a couple drinks on my lunch break, but this is what I heard.

>>212674696
Consulting is the biggest horseshit industry there is

>>212674696
>Warner Bros. Discovery has around $60 billion in debt

You missed the news about them spinning off the debt into another company?

>>212674879
What were the expectations?

>>212674907
They were exceeded.

Batman Begins was kino though
https://youtu.be/uiaRYQlsjy4

>>212672732 (OP)
>David Zaslav was born into a Jewish family
Every time.

>>212674601
that's essentially what i said, though
>so long as it's not a megaflop like a lot of their recent superhero flicks, reviews well, and gets people interested in the world again then it's by all means a success

>>212674892
No, I actually posted on that thread. I think it's still work in progress

>>212672732 (OP)
>Superman Is Just The First Step
Is this a dig to the Fantastic Four: First Steps?

>>212672756
its kind of insane aquaman of all things hit a billion while superman might struggle to get there

>>212674892
Debt by itself is a nonsense gauge. WBDiscovery is in a shit situation. Very shit. Debt and equity is a way better method to gauge a company is doing, in VERY simple terms. Once again, let's not be dishonest here, WBD is in a very bad spot. Very bad. But you are the same type of fucker who years ago would spout "Netflix is $50 billion in debt" or "Apple lost several billion producing their streaming service". You know that the mortgage on your house counts as debt right? That's the simplest way I can explain it to you fools. You are in debt to the bank, debt itself isn't a bad word.

>>212672732 (OP)
Zaslav praised the Flash and said he was excited about Shazam 2, that means they weren't box office bombs? Right, dumb troon?

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>>212675351
ITS FAILING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKZo2g4ig0I

>>212675335
To add, if you're paying off a car right now, you are in debt. Money that is owed. Even if you are paying it on time, you are in debt. That is what debt means.

>>212673711
Yes the MCU slowed down a lot at the box office after Endgame but this was after like 30 movies, it was simply descended from an apex. the DCEU never even got halfway there after all those movies

>>212675490
The MCU still has Deadpool 3 with the $1.3 billion box office and GotG 3 with the respectable boxd office by Gunn kek. Sony has the last Spider-Man with the $1.9 billion box office.
DC has fuck all and flop after flop.

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>>212675410
Nice novel that completely missed the question I asked and made about 6 million assumptions about me while trying to sound smart.

There will be 2 different companies from 2026: WBD Streaming & Studios (all their TV/film stuff) and WBD Global Networks (cable and streaming). ALL the WBD debt you talked about will be in WBD Global Networks.

So you saying

>WBDiscovery is in a shit situation

is misinformed and everything you spouted after that isn't related to the question whatsofuckingever.

Genuine question since I'm not that plugged in to /tv/ culture wars: Why does everyone want the movie to fail so badly?

I haven't seen it and I don't have much interest in it, but I did like the first two Guardians movies (never saw the third), just to give context to my stance on the movie. Is it Marvel vs DC shitflinging? Is it just that people hate the movie and want it and the director to fail before he gets more movies made? Is it not related to the movie itself and more of a grudge against Gunn himself?

I guess I just don't understand the fixation with numbers these days.

>>212675641
Some want it to fail because simply because they don't like Gunn either as a person or as an artist, some because they love Snyder and Gunn replaced him, some because they hate all superhero movies, some just because they want to keep having DC movies as a lolcow.

Marvel fans are the least invested in this movie flopping or not, ironically enough.

>>212675641
>pls spoonfeed me im lil babby
a compelling post.

>>212675581
I’m convinced the DCEU was an elaborate money laundering scheme

>>212675641
Its honestly baffling to me as well. The only thing I can come up with is the team/tribal mentality coming full swing. Or maybe a sunck cost type of deal? In terms of emotional investment. It's wild though, very entertaining from the sidelines.

>>212672732 (OP)
>Zazlav Freddy to hater anon: we need to talk about Superman, anon...
>Anon: weeps quietly

>>212676151
Warner Bros tried to ape the MCU with the DCEU without understanding what made Marvel so successful and failed miserably. Only Man of Steel, Wonder Woman and Aquaman were box office hits.

>>212676300
Well thank God they learned their lesson now

>>212676151
DC isn't the reason WBD is in financial trouble. Its WarnerBros itself. DC merchandising and films can keep it afloat, the low budget reality shit discovery does is highly profitable. But wb in the past decade, can't for the life of them pump out a good, profitable movie, without getting lucky. WB has traded 3 hands at this point. WB has to bank on DC and nothing else, and even that doesn't work. Its sad to see, but its the truth. WB isnt profitable outside of DC, and barely.

>>212676300
Ironically the “snyder verse” era of the DCEU was the only period that was actually successful. Nothing after Aquaman even sniffed the same level of success. They were writing the wave of Peak Capeshit which seemed to have been killed off with Covid

>>212676876
riding*

>>212672732 (OP)
>But you guys told me it was a flop
imagine listening to 4chan, lmao

>>212677224
>The movie with the biggest Superman weekend of the character history was a flop guis!
>Bring Zack back saars!

>>212673583
>Domestic box office is bad
Wrong

>>212672958
Sauce? She's hot.

>>212675641
Because real DC fans don't want corny MCU-lite corporate slop.

>>212675641
Looks like it's a battle over MCU goofy, cheesy take vs dark, edgy, more grounded take

If it follows its current trajectory Superman is poised to be THE #1 HIGHEST GROSSING FILM OF 2025 with the exceptions of Ne Zha, Avatar: Fire and Ice, Minecraft, Lilo & Stitch, Jurassic World: Rebirth, Fantastic Four: First Steps, Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning, How to Train Your Dragon and Detective Chinatown 1900

>/tv/ will pretend this is a flop

We are so back

>>212674741
Still the same thing for the general audience. Instead of BvS it's B&S.

>>212675380
Literal disney shill lmao