Thread 212699995

>Superman 122 million domestically with previes
>Man of steel 128 million domestically with previews

Why are they including the previews for Superman but not for Man of Steel when talking about the box office of it's opening weekend? I always included the Thursday night previews in my totals.

>>212699995 (OP)
Everything and I mean everything post 2020 is astroturfing.

>>212699995 (OP)
Actually, it's 144 adding Thursday.
$22.5 million from Thursday previews, $56.1 million on Friday, $37.7 million on Saturday, and $28.2 million on Sunday.

This isn't healthy bro. Go outside. It's just a fucking movie about men in tights.

>>212699995 (OP)
Marketing. Obviously they want the new one to be perceived as a success.

>>212700290
I'm a very active person. Thank you very much

>>212699995 (OP)
Because they're shilling the new zoomer Superman.

>>212700343
but how can anybody just deny that at this point. It's absurd the amount of gaslighting being done for this film.

>>212700254
Retard. The 56.1 already includes the Thursday preview.

>>212700759
Didn't snydersimps focus almost exclusively on the critical and/or audience reception being dogshit before proven totally wrong?

>>212700290
This. Fucking this.

Get over it, why the hell does any of this matters at all?

>>212700254
Retard they include the Thursday previews in the Friday take now which is something they didn't do when MoS released

I thought more white women would come out to the theatera for the dog. Guess not.

>>212700774
Cope? Maybe they're afraid of A.I. Maybe it is a little of both.

>>212699995 (OP)
DC was popular when Man Of Steel came out, it stopped being popular because of this movie and it tanked 99% of DC.

>>212699995 (OP)
Because this is another vehicle to push the new "Pedro Pascal" type masculinity to the planet. And the world is rejecting the blue pill. They want the masculinity of Bale's Batman and Cavill's Superman.

>>212700850
Aquaman, BvS and Wonder Woman were all successful, retard.

>>212699995 (OP)
There is nothing to discuss. MoS won even without inflation.

Superman is not making it to 600 mill global. Zaslav is going to shit in gunns mouth

>>212700872
>BvS
NTA but this is bullshit because BvS should have made over a billion, cause it's Batman meeting and fighting Superman. The terrible reviews hurt that movie and the good reviews took Civil War over a billion, and Batman and Superman being present gave that movie parity with Civil War have a few years of MCU movies behind it (I mean for fuck sake, forget DC for a sec, we can also see how Age of Ultron was hurt by a far more mixed response vs. the acclaim of The Avengers)

>>212700785
>why the hell does any of this matters at all
Because Man of Steel was about a young white individual who actively sought out and finally attained meaning in his life and his place in society. This new Superman movie is about a little bitch who gets told what to do by everybody else including his girlfriend and gets his ass kicked repeatedly. Finally he accepts his place as a little bitch and learns to do what he's told.

What I've just shown to you is a thing called "subtext". Take the time to learn what it means and what the movies you're watching are really trying to tell you.

>>212700934
>who actively sought out
No he wasn't lol, Clark was drifting aimlessly. He discovered the Kryptonian ship by pure luck of overhearing the two soldiers. I had such a bug up my ass about MoS's first act because the excellent third trailer had a bit where the music really builds as soon as we see a shot of Clark looking at the frozen ship and gave me this yearning for act one to be a real journey of Clark seeking and seeking and seeking answers and it being a very intimate experience vs. the reality of it being a fluk and the military and Lois presense there getting in the way

>>212700934
>This new Superman movie is about a little bitch who gets told what to do by everybody else including his girlfriend and gets his ass kicked repeatedly.
But Clark does what he wants regarding Boravia despite being told he shouldn't?

>>212700934
Why do jeets get so angry over Clark having to be in a real fight when it's with a clone preprogrammed by autists to counter his moves and a very powerful metahuman vs. the FUCKING BORING bullshit in the Snyder movies where he never takes any damage in a fight when Kryptonite isn't physically present? In MoS and BvS, Clark unleashing a sick combo on Zod and Doomsday and vice versa doesn't fucking matter because they never take a lick of damage - all they ever accomplished was physically displacing each other from where they were standing/floating.

>>212700929
Coulda, woulda, shoulda. It made a profit.

>>212701005
He's not drifting aimlessly, he's following his father's edict to keep a low profile, the same thing that God is father killed. Overhearing the soldiers talk is just a plot gimmick to move the story along to the point where he decides he's going to find out who he really is. Joseph Campbell called this the "call to adventure"...Luke Skywalker does it when he gets a mysterious message from a captive princess ( that's also quite coincidental). You must be a Zoomer if you're not familiar with this storytelling technique.

>>212700850
>DC was popular

>>212700796
proof?

>>212701005
He's still undecided, you mong, which is why he's in the church. You begin to see him actively choosing his path when he saves that oil rig crew.

>>212701101
>Why do jeets get so angry
A better question is why you've got to accuse everybody you disagree with of being a brown third worlder, but the answer is, of course, because the points you make are so shitty and Ill informed that you've got to find a way to make your lame ass sound smarter.

>>212699995 (OP)
It's been 13 years, time to grow up instead of caring about how some producer man made slightly more/less money this time than the last time he made the same movie

>>212701041
So he takes his orders from pink hair trannys instead of the US government. Wow.

>>212701157
Everybody knows what the call to adventure is, but your wording to my mind makes him sound far more proactive than he actually was. If he didn't overhead the soldiers, keeping his head down would have continued and continued.

>>212700254
RETARD ALERT

>>212701231
And why is the point shitty? It's perfectly valid to find endlessly punching each other to no avail to be extremely boring and tedious.

>>212700735
Post your squat vertical or gtfo

>>212700934
>Man of Steel was about a young white individual who actively sought out and finally attained meaning in his life and his place in society. This new Superman movie is about a little bitch who gets told what to do by everybody else

You've literally swapped the themes of the movies. Man of Steel had Clark aimlessly wandering through life until he discovers a message from his parents telling him what he should do, meanwhile Superman 2025 is about him deciding to ignore authority (the US government and his parents) in order to make his own choices and do what he believes is the right thing.

>>212701318
I guess you were in the theater bathroom jerking off to gay porn when two kryptonians beat the ever living shit out of Clark in Smallville earlier in the movie.

>>212701280
lol

>>212701225
why is he 40 years old when he finally makes a decision

>>212701369
>do what he believes is the right thing
...Which is take orders from pink hair trannys. KWAB.

>>212701279
>tv/film
>stop discussing tv/film

>>212701397
Their superior fighting skills did fuck all in the end - Faora unleashed a sick combo on him but he's fine, he's no physically worse for wear, ultimately. Him and Zod fought absolutely fruitlessly.
>Zod unleashed flurry of kicks and combos on Superman = nothing accomplished except Clark has been displaced physically and is a few 100 metres away from where he was earlier
>Alternatively, Superman unleashed flurry of kicks and combos on Zod = nothing accomplished except the general has been displaced physically and is a few 100 metres away from where he was earlier
It got old and tedious real fast. I don't REEE at anyone for enjoying the spectacle of these fights but it's perfectly valid for me to find them boring.

>>212700850
This. Snyder killed DC and James gunn is trying to revive it. It's similar to how batman and Robin killed the batman brand and nolans dark knight trilogy revived it.

>>212700774
Snyderjeets have no life and are mentally ill. More than half of the superman threads are them seething and coping lmao.

>>212701333
If this thread is up when I go to the gym after work I will kek

>>212701445
Are the pink haired trannies in the room with us, anon?

>>212701483
Agreed. I didn't outright dislike them but it basically just felt like several variations of throwing each other through walls, and both looking absolutely no different afterwards than when it all started, not even as much as concrete dust in their hair. At least when SM2025 had two kryptonians going at it they both were getting the shit kicked out of each other.

>>212701284
He only was able to overhear the soldiers because he chose to go out in the world

>>212700774
Honestly after they changed RT system just to save Marvel flops we can't trust in anything anymore when it comes to critics and box office.

>>212701397
>>212701483
>>212701718
Don't forget the scene where Zod flew!! It took Years for Clark to adapt. Zod dis it in a few hours.

Why are Gunnpajeets so mad all the time?

>>212701495
How much did Batman & Robin gross compared to Batman Begins again?

>>212701718
>Are the pink haired trannies in the room with us, anon
I'm pretty sure there's one in front of your keyboard right now, kek.

>>212701550
So go back to plebbit if you want to join a moderated circle jerk, Zoomer faggot.

>>212700934
I don't care, I don't watch capeshit

>>212701483
>It got old and tedious real fast.
Yep, I gotta say even Zod agrees with you, that's why when he realized that he started to target civilizans instead of Superman and got snapped.

>>212701770
Because the plot outrightly told you he was genetically superior, numbnuts. This is all also why Clark was forced to kill him when he refused to knock his shit off.

>>212699995 (OP)
Man of steel did 116 million

>>212701495
So much this. We just had our 'Batman Begins' and soon we'll have the last laugh over Snyderbros with our 'The Dark Knight' releasing next year: Supergirl. Rebuilding the DC brand to unseen heights

>>212701920
>We just had our 'Batman Begins'
But Batman Begins is good.

>>212701920
Is it even possible to write more like shill? I hope Warner Bros collapses and everyone who presently works there is forced to suck dick for crack money.

>>212701918
Excluding previews

>>212701483
>>212701770
And instead we should settle for the same sloppy cgi that marvel has been shitting out the past decade and gay niggers shoved into every role. Shut the fuck up already

>>212701973
Only a Snyderbro would be unable to appreciate the finely tuned humour, focused storytelling and nuanced humanity of James Gunn's Superman

>>212699995 (OP)
I was 13 when this was released and generally liked it but didn't think it was significant either. Was it controversial?

>>212702050
Lol Superman vs. Ultraman and Engineer was far more dynamic and entertaining than the fucking Zod fight. Most engaging fight Cavill Superman was ever in was with Batman because there was a bit of a back and forth going on vs. fruitless and endless punching. Even hits from fucking Doomsday did little until Kryptonite was brought into the fight

>>212699995 (OP)
Not even beating Man of Steel is Gunn's worst nightmare

>>212702230
I find it hilarious how keen news "reporters" are to avoid comparisons to MoS. They would have have not hesitated had this been a decisive win by Gunnman.

>>212700785
By that logic you shouldn’t care that they care.

>>212702230
No the worst nightmare is BO bomb and really bad critical/audience reception. The latter has been success beyond MoS, that can't be denied by MoS enjoyers. BO beating MoS is obviously what he'd crave but I think the studio will except half a bil paired with the reception as a win/solid enough foundation to work with

>>212702102
Yes but not in a negative way. It left superfags cautiously optimistic. Among the GA it was pretty good. The BO wasn’t spectacular but it did beat all the phase 1 mcu films barring Avengers. WB was really happy because they made most of the budget back before the film even came out.

>>212701101
>Clark unleashing a sick combo on Zod and Doomsday and vice versa doesn't fucking matter because they never take a lick of damage - all they ever accomplished was physically displacing each other from where they were standing/floating.
New movie is no different with Superman punching his clone endlessly until black hole. You are retarded

>>212700929
>NTA but this is bullshit because BvS should have made over a billion


It made 873 million. You’re being ridiculous if you don’t think that’s a success.

>>212699995 (OP)
>Underperforming everywhere but the US
I knew the Superman movie would filter a lot of the general audience but shit, this might actually bomb overseas

>>212702279
Outside of a few shit posters and genuine faggots like mark waid MOS is pretty beloved online

>>212702279
>The latter has been success beyond MoS
The audience reception has been worse, lil' Gunnjeet

>>212702324
But there was actual strategy used to get Ultraman into the black hole though. Instead of just mindless punching he realizes Lex can't actually control Ultraman without the drones, gets Krypto to destroy them, severly nerfing Ultraman's effectiveness. They even did a callback to Lex saying brains beats brawn earlier in the fight.

>>212702211
LOL OK
post the webm

>>212702327
Captain Marvel made a billion.

>>212702327
It's an event movie, pal, and event movie with Batman and Superman meeting on the big screen which audience had not seen before. By all rights, it should have made a billion. If Infinity War, as an example, made 'only' 1.1 billion it would quite rightly be seen as a massive underperformance/failure. And the MCU had their movies to build up shit but DC had iconic status of Batman and Superman which I'd say gave them parity regarding the hype train. CW got over a billion cause of its reviews, BvS failed because of bad reviews and bad word of mouth. It was an under fucking performer, get over it.

>people who don’t like the movie don’t understand the character
And? Whatcha gonna do about it?

>>212699995 (OP)
They would stop when the total comes off way below MoS box office

>>212701451
>stop sucking off hollywood jew producers
>NOOOOOOOO

>>212702477
This superman is also an event movie and the event being death of DCU

>>212702279
>bad critical/audience reception
That's exactly the case everywhere except America. MoS did really well internationally and it's clear that style resonated. WB is in a bit of a pickle here.

>>212702728
They should've just settled for a Snyder/Cavill MoS2 with none of the JL dead weight and it would have done so much better than this overbudgeted slop.

>>212702855
Mos2 with any director would’ve done better. Cavill is an established name.

>>212702905
Yeah just like Whedon's JL did so well right? You need Snyder's direction for Superman. Other directors just fail.

>>212702728
It'd also be another story if Superman massively outperformed MoS in the US in which case you could confidently stay the course but that's not the case either.

>>212699995 (OP)
Add inflation and MoS blows S25 out of the water.

>>212703028
>b-but budget was also higher!!
>just ignore all the initial reports touting a 200m marketing campaign for Gunnverse
This is a monumental failure. They went through all this effort, spent how many millions burning all their bridges only to result in an utter wet fart.

>>212700254
Those are shit numbers

>>212703094
Didn't a report from Ohio show that the budget was $386 mil?

>>212701280
And he cries at #supershit

>>212702279
The problem is, almost everyone outside the US dislikes the movie or feels lukewarm about it at best. As much as everyone wants to deny it, the movie will fail because it tries so hard to be "Not-Snyderverse-like", so they went on the complete opposite direction and ended up with a story without meaningful emotional beats or proper context to the story, so it becomes hollow action-slop without characters to care about. I don't think Gunn is incompetent, but there was to much pressure to distance the movie from Snyder's vision

Anyone monetarily invested should be banned from posting threads.

>>212700770
>As the embodiment of truth, justice and the human way
>human way
>human
Well this is just anti-American.

>>212703335
I enjoyed the movie and human way gave me such a kek. 'and hope for a better tomorrow' was right there, I think even comic have used that line when they cucked out by removing the American way part

>>212701770
Anon he says he was literally "bred to be a warrior" as in, he is literally able to hone in and concentrate on skills that apply to that such. It's literally in his code. Do people who say shit like this not watch the movie?

>>212702279
It seems like the majority of people here in the states are tilting towards dissatisfaction. I think the ones glazing it on the lefties who are in love with the kike shit in it

>>212703545
Shitposting aside, I wonder how much the obvious support of Palestine in the movie will affect its reception with normies. On the other hand, lefties believe the movie is the second coming of Jesus because of the anti-israel themes, as expected

>>212702279
>The latter has been success beyond MoS
You may call me a Snyderjeet but every good review is "Yeah, it's pretty lame and a 6/10 at it's best and Gunn's jokes are awful but anyway at least it's not Zack Snyder so it's fresh hmmm I guess".

>>212703717
My normie friends and my normie gf hated it. She was the one who even pointed out that Superman in TAS is just as brooding, serious and sincere and Snyder's superman. Which she used to hate too. Top kek

>>212703832
I hated MoS and still do, but this was just as bad if not worse. It's just on the other end of the spectrum, that's the problem with DC movies they are either super gritty and serious or stupid teen comedies.

>>212703717
>the obvious support of Palestine
It was clearly meant to be Putin vs Jeets but every person see what they want, the funniest part is jews seeing that mix of Boris Johnson, Putin and Trump as Netanyahu

>>212702477
Civil war had spiderman who is insanely more popular than superman and they have been creating this cinametic universe much before DC. Also marvel vs dc marketing.It was bound to be more successful and DC took the bait.

>>212699995 (OP)
JUST

>>212703717
Nobody support Israel. Even the magas are divided.

>>212703832
Women love the Snyderverse. It always had a large female following compared to Marvel

>>212705181
Kek, I saw females saying "he's only 6'2'' " that's a lot of cope

>>212703335
>Well this is just anti-American.
Gunn is anti-American, have you not seen his other flicks?

>>212699995 (OP)
It's another flop anon

>>212706402
>Not supporting Israel is anti-American
Well, that's accurate

>>212701734
>they changed RT system

You mean like how now you have to actually see the movie so your autistic vote brigades don't work anymore?

>>212701451
you are not discussing film. You are cryng because nobody likes your 13 yo flop

>>212700934
>Specify race like it matters when the new movie is 95% white people and the main couples are white

>>212702327
It held the record for biggest second week until quantumania. Fucking quantumania.

>>212699995 (OP)
>Why are they including the previews for Superman but not for Man of Steel when talking about the box office of it's opening weekend? I always included the Thursday night previews in my totals.

>>212706714
Except Gunn supports Israel, and that's exactly why he's anti-American. He even fired an actor for mildly criticizing the IDF.

>>212703505
That shit doesn't matter. Jor el cleaned the floor with superior Zod while being a programmed scientist.
Movie was shit. We settled this a decade ago. Stop crying

>>212707266
Raceless question mate.

>>212703208
>Not-Snyderverse-like
That's just called being a Superman/DC movie

>>212707333
>plot doesn't matter
I can see why you enjoyed gunnslop top kek. Cope more tranny, no one likes your movie. Except literally trannies.

>>212704203
Anon the leader of Borovia was literally modeled after the PM of Israel. Top kek. It's not trying to be subtle at all.

>>212705289
Not really desu. I worked in a theater during release of these films and all the chicks hated the snyderverse

>>212702953
>You need Snyder's direction for Superman.
That shit flopped and noody liked.
Rebel moon?

>>212700785
What's even sadder is that they are not arguing the merits of either film in terms of storytelling, or filming techniques or acting, or anything even vaguely artistic, just how much money they made.

>>212707377
You are just comically angry because nobody liked your 13 old flop
Move on, nostalgiatard

>>212707405
>Anon the leader of Borovia
DC's Borovia is literally an eastern European country you retard

>>212707487
>storytelling, or filming techniques or acting, or anything even vaguely artistic
none of those things are perceptible to anyone who watches Snyder's movies voluntarily.

>>212701231
Jeets love MoS because theyre obsessed with being perceived as "cool" in a way that only other jeets consider to be cool (sunglasses indoors type of niggas.) They're also extremely tribal, relentless and coordinated online...so it's only logical to conclude that the majority of shitposting and campaigning for Snyder is being done them.

>>212708193
Done by*

>>212700850
this looks like something 4chan would edit into a video xD

>>212699995 (OP)
Snyder lost
India lost

>>212708659
Ironically India is the only country where Superman isn’t shitting the bed

>>212702268
I shouldn't care that my board is spammed to shit by autistic fanboy retards?

>>212708814
Because you're upsetting the WB shills and the Snyderbots

>>212702364
Good, fuck em, very sick of American movies considering audiences that don’t speak english and ultimately being for nobody.

Is it actually bombing overseas or is this copium from the Snyderbots

>>212709112
Copium, obviously
And butthurt

Man of Steel made two-thirds of that if you want to make a fair comparison, given 3D tickets were $16 in 2013.

>>212709112
>Is it actually bombing overseas
Yeah.
>>212709484
>Copium, obviously
Projection.

>>212709112
it's not doing as well. I was going to do an inflation adjusted gross for MoS but they both had the same production budgets so w/e

>>212699995 (OP)
sar?

>>212710548
Wouldn't adjusting the production budget for MoS mean it had a higher budget than Superman 2025

>>212709112
No not at all it's a flat out bomb in major markets that Man of Steel did well in
It did so fucking badly in China they may as well not have released it there and disappointed in the UK and Australia
Those were the 3 biggest outside markets for MoS

Europe across the board is abysmal (in some places fucking Morbius did better I am not joking) as well as Asia, for a while it looked like Latin America would be good but it died on the vine for some reason.

>>212710657
the result of trump’s tarrifs is china now has more or less, completely blocked american films. they now need a special license and i believe, someone correct me if im wrong, only 70 theatres in all of china are playing superman.

>>212710548
also MoS previews were legit late night limited number of theater openings. Superman "previews" are it was just normally released to all theaters on thursday
>>212710656
since they had the same 225million production budgets we can just ignore the inflation adjustments we would normally need to do since a movie's success is the comparison between it's revenue and cost. obviously not sure if the new superman film had a bigger or smaller marketing budget.

>>212710657
>Europe across the board is abysmal (in some places fucking Morbius did better I am not joking)

https://deadline.com/2025/07/superman-opening-global-international-box-office-1236454958/

>Here are the Top 10 for Superman at open: UK ($9.8M), Mexico ($8.8M), China ($6.6M), Brazil ($5.9M), Australia ($5.3M), France ($4.2M), Korea ($4.2M), India ($3.8M/biggest DC opening ever), Spain ($2.9M) and Japan ($2.5M).

Morbius:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt5108870/

Spain: $2,155,563
France: $2,795,499
UK: $4,268,630

Which were the ones Morbius did better in?

>>212710848
>Which were the ones Morbius did better in?
Germany


Morbius opened with 168,168 tickets in Germany.

Superman‘s 147.5K number also includes previews