Thread 212707987

Which side are you

>>212707987 (OP)
God damn. It's incredible how much better-looking Cavill was as Superman. Corenswet looks like a cheap cosplayer.

>>212707987 (OP)
Cavill. Now THAT is Superman

>>212707987 (OP)
Neither

>>212707987 (OP)
the suit on the right is absolute dogshit.

>>212707987 (OP)
Unironically the suit on the left looks horrible. BvS was a pile of shit but the costumes still blow this new stuff away. There are literal cosplayers with better looks than the nuSuperman.

>>212707987 (OP)
I can't believe people did a 180 on MoS and are acting like it's good all of a sudden.

>>212707987 (OP)
Why would I be on either side? Do I get a share of the revenue from either depending on my answer?
I'm not personally involved into capeshit enough (or pathetic enough) for this. I did see both and enjoyed them for different reasons.

>>212708047
I liked his Kingdom Come suit better.

>>212708073
welcome to /tv/

>>212707987 (OP)
>faggotry vs homosexuality
I'll stick with Reeves, thanks.

>>212708090
fuck this stupid mesh bullshit they always fucking do. I'm sick of it.

>>212708073
Plenty of us liked MoS when it came out too. And judging by box office, we're the majority.

>>212707987 (OP)
Cavill actually looks cool.

>whats the s for
>it stands for super

>>212707987 (OP)
All Cavill's suit needed was the right color and it would have been perfect. His face is unbeatable.

this a friendly reminder that synderman ends up stuck in a perpetual time loop wherein he takes over the planet and becomes warlord of earth after becoming corrupted by darkseid’s antilife. the synderjeet and modern contrarian will say this is a good thing. but I already have an evil superman in the boys, invincible, injustice, brightburn, etc. which means the synderman is literally dime a dozen

to be truly contrarian, to be truly subversive, is to make a kind superman. so much so, a kind superman broke this board

>>212707987 (OP)
He looks great

>>212707987 (OP)
Left is a better Superman and had a better movie by far

>>212707987 (OP)
I'm on the side of kino.

snyder supes had good looks but was depressing
gunn supes is less pretty but much more fun

>>212708163
He should’ve played a villain not Superman. Like The Eradicator who Snyder turned into Zod

>>212708254
shame he's a joyless miserable murder man

>imagine if there was a guy who was invincible and super strong and cant die no matter what and he is a badass and he saves everyone
wow what a captivating premise I wonder how it ends
if you are seriously watching a fucking superman movie and you dont have children you are a complete waste of energy and you should get evaporated

>>212708091
Snyderverse was mocked and shat upon relentlessly. DC flailed about like a confused toddler trying to make that shit work with constant reshoots and tone alterations and it all started with MoS and its poor reception followed by BvS and the immense amount of shit it got.

These were not good movies. If they were, we would be discussing JL2 or Batfleck. But we aren't. Because that entire set of movies failed and DC has scrapped and tried to rework their cinematic universe entirely. Because it failed.
It's too soon to be rebooting superman anyways. Cavill was in a scene as recently as 2022 for black adam. If they go the "The Batman" route and make it something standalone and unique they could have a chance at winning people over if the movie is actually good enough for word of mouth to spread.

I'm so sick of DC and I'm exhausted watching jeets and pakis argue about fucking BOX OFFICE NUMBERS for a fucking superhero movie.

>>212708351
who raped you?

>>212708382
superman did... i couldnt do anything to stop him...

>>212708126
>And judging by box office, we're the majority.
Well then you should have watched the rest of the fucking DC movies then. Shouldn't you?
But you didn't and they failed.
The DC cinematic universe failed. They weren't good. They failed.
Shut. The. Fuck. Up. About. The. Stupid. Fucking. Box. Office.
Nobody fucking cares which stupid fucking superman movie made more money.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

>>212708073
Always loved it. You just fell for the manufactured narrative.

>>212707987 (OP)
I’ll tell you whose side I’m NOT on OP. Watching this new Superman movie made me realize just how much of a little BITCH this guy is.
>WAAAHHHHHH!!!1!1 I DON’T WANNA SAVE PEOPLE FROM MY ARCH NEMISIS AND MY EVIL CLONES!!
>WAHHHHHHH!!!! MY GIRLFRIEND IS IN THE HOSPITAL!1!!! MY MOTHER AND BROTHER CAN GO DIE FOR ALL I CARE!!! WAHHHHHHH!11!!
He needs some serious CORRECTION.

>>212707987 (OP)
My quarrel is with Snyder not Cavill.

and that's why he's the GOAT, the GOAT

>>212707987 (OP)
Is Superman and Lois, the one sort of related to the CWverse any good

>>212708476
most kino opening out of them all, for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxPqgRh5UGA

>>212708469
didn't he get corrected by the alien baddie?

>>212708476
>>212708513
the guy PUNCHED photons back to the source. How can you beat something like that

>>212708469
Mark is 18-20 in Invincible. Clark is 30 in the new Superman. That's a pretty big difference in maturity.

>>212708469
>He needs some serious CORRECTION
Oh, anon….

>>212708286
You’re on the side of being old, boomer.

>>212708354
>Snyderverse was mocked and shat upon relentlessly.
You realize that was all just people wanting DC to adopt the MCU style, right? Along with political andys with a hate-boner for Snyder. You have a movie now that on a global basis is far more divisive and all of a sudden it's declared "well-received". How is all this not sinking in yet? God damn, you're dumber than the jeets and pakis you're screeching about.

>>212707987 (OP)
>which side
Fuck off, both of you are jeets

>>212708472
based

This is really the Israel/Palestine of movies, no normal person cares about either

>the Indian Civil War was a conflict which began in July 2025 due to disagreements over which capeslop they preferred
>casualties were in the millions (most due to dysentary)

>>212707987 (OP)
Left was entertaining and fun to watch. Right was dour, dull and boring.

>>212708467
>You just fell for the manufactured narrative.
No, retard, not everybody gets their goddamn opinions off /tv/ memes.
MoS was a perfectly adequate popcorn movie and it was also adequately forgettable.
You know what it didn't succeed at? Generating a cinematic universe people wanted to watch.
The good will people had for DC as a brand and the interest audiences had in the "coke to Marvel's pepsi" did not carry that franchise beyond a few movies. Snyder did not make an enjoyable franchise and Cavill did not carry one.
MoS was supposed to be to DC what Ironman was to the MCU, and it failed.

The launchpad turned out to be a step-stool. MoS was fine by any metric (except to comic fags that wanted a more upbeat superman) but it was never the movie you wanted it to be and it did not succeed in the way your box office number fellating might otherwise indicate.

The simple fact we are having THIS conversation is testament to the fact that I am right and retards whining about the loss of the snyderverse are wrong.
If was any good, it will still be going. It isn't, because it wasn't.

I don't give two flying fucks about the worst superhero ever conceived or the far-too-soon reboot of his film franchise, but that doesn't mean it is enjoyable to see you fucking seething manchildren cry because you aren't getting to see Kind Daddy Nerd in a MoS sequel.
At least you can always rewatch the smash hit Batman vs Superman anytime you want.

>>212707987 (OP)
Cavill
>better costume, better race, more likeable person,
New guy (didn't see the movie)
>better movie, better looks, better character, better hair, better hands, better Lois

>>212708649
MCU is science fantasy action schlock that sometimes rises above its producer mandates and genre pastiche to tell a pretty good story, e.g. Infinity War.

Snyderverse thinks the problem with MCU is that it doesn't treat science fantasy action schlock with enough reverence.

Gunn's Superman, Raimi's Spiderman, and Burton's Batman are aware that they're based on a children's comic book.

>>212707987 (OP)
Is Hollywood allergic to using Superman's actual logo?

>>212708265
>if Superman was by the Syfy channel

>>212708933
you are writing too many words for people trying to piss you off with single sentence insults

Lmao who watches this trash

>>212708415
Listen, James. Nobody watched the rest of DC because it was dog shit. Still doesn't change the fact that MoS mogs your movie.

>>212707987 (OP)
Corenswet and it's not close.

>>212708933
It failed because of dorks like you constantly trying to kneecap it. Don't be surprised if people do the same with your new MCU-lite child cartoon shit.

>>212707987 (OP)
Cavill and it's not even close between him and the guy in this movie.
The reason people are so annoyed with this is because Cavill is still in amazing shape, still looks great and DC did him dirty with the 4 movie contract saying he fulfilled it by appearing as a cameo in Black Adam.

>>212708124
based. looks like shit

>>212708963
>Gunn's Superman, Raimi's Spiderman, and Burton's Batman are aware that they're based on a children's comic book.
This is the most important factor in making these movies. You have to lean into the campiness for it to work.

>>212707987 (OP)
the proper side

>>212708963
Thos is actually pretty good argument not gonna lie.
Things should have both tones
>Funny
>Serious

>>212708476
Best theatrically released Superman there's ever been. Absolutely mogs all these others.

>>212707987 (OP)
don't like either but I guess the new one is better

>>212708296
The resurrected Superman from ZSJL is the Eradicator. They used a malevolent Mother Box to bring Supes' corpse back to life, so of course it reconfigured him to be prone to evil.

Remember how Aquaman stated like 3 or 4 times that what they brought back was NOT Superman? "His memories... His powers maybe... But it's not him." But the rest of the group was in denial.

And, during the Steppenwolf fight, resurrected Supes is oddly... sadistic? Like instead of just beating Steppenwolf down and keeping him there, he was way more powerful and confident, and like a cat toying with its prey. He'd laser him, then punch him, etc, even lasering his horn off, not to kill him, but just to torture him and cause him pain. Therefore, he's the Eradicator.

>>212708301
>shame he's a joyless miserable murder man
You didn't watch the movies.

>>212709004
Superman has had this 'new' logo for 30 years.

>>212707987 (OP)
Corwnswet IS Superman.
Cavill played a retarded mong.

>>212707987 (OP)
The side that doesn't shit on the street and doesn't care or shill for capeshit

>>212709967
or he did watch the movies and that’s how he knows he’s a joyless murderman

The side of beauty, the side of punk rock

>>212707987 (OP)
Left would have joined General Zod in right.

>>212708476
>that's why he's the GOAT, the GOAT
I fucking hate this meme along with anything else that comprises zoomer speak vocabulary

The one who actually wins fights

>>212708637
And you're on the side of shit eaters, pajeet.

>>212707987 (OP)
Is it really that hard to design a Superman suit that cools and hire an actor that actually looks like super man?

>>212709922
That’s just brainwashed Superman. The Eradicator was Snyder’s Zod. Using World Engine to turn Earth into Krypton. Original Zod from Superman and comic adaptions, Zod never gave a fuck about Krypton back. He just wanted to rule over everyone

>>212707987 (OP)
>mfw I now remember the sneeder movies

Cavill is Superman, Corensweat (pants) is Superboy. That's how they should have handled the movie.

>>212710235
Speak your truth king!

>>212709422
But it isn't working. It's just an incestuous circle jerk. A Transformers: One of capeshit.

Cavill probably had all the potential in the world (the Joss version as bad as it was does give some insight into less somber Superman), his suit included with a few necessary tweaks. I liked Corenswet a lot, his suit does need tweaks too and he can't remain stagnant characterwise, his Superman should grow a bit as a person into leader/a man's man type

>>212710678
Man of Steel suit was very close to being perfect - like it was before the added on the fake muscles/abs that were too obvious and obnoxious. All it needed was to brighten the colours and I'd say a red belt sort of thing around the mid section to add some red and as a middle ground between briefs and absolutely none.

>>212710974
> like it was before the added on the fake muscles/abs that were too obvious and obnoxious

MOS shot had fake muscles

I actually liked the new suit when I saw it in action. Looked like the classic suit but not like pajamas. Never liked MOS rubber suit bullshit

>>212709922
>And, during the Steppenwolf fight, resurrected Supes is oddly... sadistic? Like instead of just beating Steppenwolf down and keeping him there, he was way more powerful and confident, and like a cat toying with its prey. He'd laser him, then punch him, etc, even lasering his horn off, not to kill him, but just to torture him and cause him pain. Therefore, he's the Eradicator.
JL2 and 3 plans contradict this IIRC. It's simply a reflection of the fact that Zack likes cool violence and by the time you're done accepting how desensitised different Sneederman is for a main universe Superman, it's cool enough seeing him dominate Steppenwolf

>>212711038
I wrote before they got TOO obnoxious and obvious. MoS fake ones were really good, I actually believed it was all Cavill underneth the suit when younger. It is funny how physique inflation is so extreme that MoS era Cavill is now considered small

The one with Antje Traue

>>212708073
Hi newfag

>>212708351
My elderly father going through his second childhood likes Superman and I'm going to see it with him on Wednesday, does that count?

>>212710101
Anyone who thinks he's a joyless murderman must be severely autistic.

>>212707987 (OP)
Team Sneed

>>212707987 (OP)
Anyone who unironically prefers the one on the right is not a Superman fan

>>212707987 (OP)
Gunn. Because his movie was good, albeit not great nor anything special, at least it wasn't as terrible as both of the Snyder Superman films.
It's a shame they wasted Henry Cavil, that dude was born to play Superman. But unfortunately he only got to play some mopey, edgy retard instead of the actual Superman

Cavill cannot act
It doesn’t matter if someone is a carbon copy of the comics physically, if they’re wooden and dull then you might as well get a cosplayer because it would be the same level of acting
Corenswet acted circles about Cavill

>>212707987 (OP)
I like the undies, personally.

>>212707987 (OP)
Cornswet is kind of a ugly sounding name. You simply cannot be a big time celebrity with a name like that

>>212708018

tell me you like looking at a glistening male physique without telling me

>>212708963
Burton’s Batman was considered dark at the time.

>>212711661
Being too much of a pussy to include the undies because you want to make a le edgy superman should automatically disqualify you from ever touching superman ever again

>>212711791
There are no naked men in that pic, homo.

>>212708292
Cavill's Superman didn't even need to breathe. What a retard.

>>212711885
>he's not naked so its techynically not gay if I goon!

whatever you say anon. the best part of your response that you ended it with 'homo' like you're trying to beat people to the punch.

pro tip: i already implied you're gay as fuck for ogling Cavill's rubber muscles

>>212711661
Corenswet had the best defense of the undies too. He said that it's okay to make fun of Superman for them since he can take it. Something along those lines.

>>212710053
literal shill post. Corwnswet's superman had noticeably reduced mental faculties.

>>212708861
kek

>>212707987 (OP)
Which side are you

>>212712148
Schneider was the best. Not even close.

>>212708861
/thread

>>212712148
Depends who each one voted for. I didn’t like Pa in this new movie because you just know he would be MAGA irl.

>>212707987 (OP)
Neither, they're both shit adaptations of Superman.

>>212712221
Both John Schneider and Kevin Costner are MAGA irl.

>>212712221
So he would be based and winning?

>>212709004
Movies can't use the 'standard' S-shield, because they need movie merch to be different from non-movie merch. It's the same reason superhero costumes (and Star Wars shit, and ghostbusters proton packs, etc) have minor differences from movie to movie. Too keep pushing merch.

>>212712148
Smallville guy did a great job, sure he had like 10 seasons to work with the character but still, best of the three.

It's obvious for anyone with taste.

>>212712838
>the color popping one is less like the colour popping neoclassic art

>>212707987 (OP)
Corenswet suit proves that you can make the trunks work. They went for wide instead of lean, and it works extremelly well for Superman
I like Cavill's MOS suit, but the latter ones looked worse and worse. The alien design is fine for the Snyderverse, but the suit really needed a better blue. The black version looks great, though

>>212712838
Form an argument instead of making your shitty cope collages ranjesh

>>212712838
Pretty sure this was made by someone larping as a snydersimp to make them look even more silly lol

>>212712838
neoclassical art is defined by a vibrancy of pigment used at the time and the three point horizon used for depth. which, hilariously, in your own jpg, are only present in the supergunn image. see, notice the background of the city behind, leading to the midground of the glass, the foreground of superman? there is only a vault wall behind synderman

I’m not surprised by retards on /tv/ misunderstanding basic art theory but this one really amused me

>>212708018
>5”10 vs 6”5
Ok manlet. Also. David is a much better actor so he wins.

>>212713030
>Corenswet suit proves that you can make the trunks work. They went for wide instead of lean, and it works extremelly well for Superman
I'm fairly confused by Snyder saying they tried to make the red briefs work before giving up on them when we had Superman stuff at that point where he had a red belt as a middle ground between briefs and none. Still, the Cavill MoS Superman would have been near perfect with the belt, real Superman colors, less of the Kryptonian lines and patterns, and excluding the chainmail texture from the S crest so it stands out more a special

>>212713090
Cope harder gunnpedo troon

Josstice League gets shit and rightfully so but I will say it was valuable in at least showing Cavill really could have done the amiable light hearted relaxed Superman

>>212708963
Raimi's spiderman is not campy. This is such a desperate disingenuous take to try to couple his name to this movie. Spiderman 2's tone is more in vein to BvS than gunn's slop unironically. You should use No Way Home as your excuse. It's a raining character film without raimi and you get that turd of the result. Literally also a marvel movie which gunn superman literally is. Top kek

>>212713147
bruh, dude, my brother in christ. you can see how the vibrancy of the cape in your neoclassical example better matches the supergunn, right? this is so purposely and explicitly wrong, I genuinely believe you made it wrong on purpose to get piss people off and get (You)s. which, you know, fair play. this is chan. you got two (You)s out of me. just the perfectly incorrect comparison is truly amusing. I am very tickled

>>212713123
You mean this?

>>212713228
>Spiderman 2's tone is more in vein to BvS than gunn's slop unironically.
It had slapstick comedy lol. That already puts it way closer to Gunn SM like Krypto coming out of nowhere to maul Lex

>>212707987 (OP)
>right is moody depressed Man of Murder
>left is himbo crybaby wannabe Invincible
I dont mind either casting but the fucking writing is ass, its like two extremes

>>212713288
Yes. I have no issues with the red briefs, I am simply puzzled over Snyder agonising over 'trying to make them work' and ditching any midsection red altogether instead of doing that.

>>212707987 (OP)
The new costume looks way too busy. It makes Superman look way too modern like he just came out in the 90s or something. That alone means I probably won't watch this for a while

>>212712424
>Smallville guy did a great job, sure he had like 10 seasons to work with the character
He had less because he died in the 100th episode in Season 5. Anything after was either a flashback or his ghost.

I havent' seen the Gunn Superman but Zack Snyder is the biggest hack of this generation.

>>212707987 (OP)
I'm white so left.

>>212707987 (OP)
they have another ten years to milk the jewperman until he's in the public domain

I will tell the truth about jewperman then, you watch me.

>one of the oldest, most recognisable comic heroes ever
>one decent adaptation

Why

>>212712979
>>212713090
MoS
>meaningful shit
Gunnslop
>babyshit
it's not that hard to understand

>>212713439
>until he's in the public domain
How many times are you retards gonna say this? Only Golden Age Superman's becoming public domain. Nothing recent or from 50 years ago will be available until another several decades.

>>212713485
>MoS
>meaningful shit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

>>212713228
>Raimi's spiderman is not campy.
You're so retarded you're probably talking about the way the scenes are lit rather than the actual story beats and dialogue which are extraordinarily campy.

>>212707987 (OP)
There's only one.

>>212707987 (OP)
Both are emasculated, punchable bitches.
Both costumes look like some cheap, Halloween getup.
Also, is this a faggot thread?

>>212713546
Gunnfags, everyone.

>>212707987 (OP)
I'd like Cavill a lot more if he at least had a proper belt and didn't have a muted color palate. The theatrical cut of JL and Black Adam were the best Cavill ever looked, and it isn't close. Fuck Sneeder for being such a bitch when it came to the costume.

>>212707987 (OP)
Every Superman movie has a favorite scene you skip to sometimes when you feel like it. For me, it's the first helicopter safe in Superman 1.
The new movie hasn't got a single cool Superman moment. Let that sink in. He cracks jokes, saves squirrels, all good but nothing memorable.

>>212713772
I can't imagine watching a Superman movie, let alone re-watching some scenes multiple times.
What's your mental illness?

>>212713711
nu 52 was a bit eh too, but I agree with a fair amount of this. All we needed was MoS costume before the fake muscles became too obnoxious, a real Superman colour pallet, red belt, less Kryptonian lines, and the S logo not sharing the chainmail texture so it felt more special

>>212713772
For me it's Cavill's surrender and how he snaps his handcuffs. It doesn't get more based than that.

>>212713485
then post a picture of literal meaningful shit and literal babyshit? you’re the one finding neoclassical art on google and making jpgs in mspaint. I mean, I’ll discuss this just for fun. neoclassical art was going through a literal renaissance of both method and medium. paint pigment was being mixed with different bases and thinners because the older darker pigment were cracking and falling, normally off church walls. so the new paint was brighter and thinner on canvas, which in turn allowed for greater contrast and detail. the three point horizon was being taught and shared and anatomically correct proportions, which we now call the seven head theory, allowed for more natural and broader scale of illustration. in your own neoclassical example, the image has depth from the pillars of the background and the midground with the red capes and the foreground being led by the floor, or three point horizon, to us the audience. bizarrely, fascinating, and hilariously, all this is present in the supergunn image. vibrant colours, background leading to foreground, with even a naturalized posing superman. of all the neoclassical examples you found on google, you picked the one with saturated red capes?!?! it’s so on the nose and so wrong and purposely incorrect it is so clearly chosen with great intent to piss off people. I applaud (You) for the engagement the jpg received, it worked, kudos. You know how to chan. but personally, just me, and no one else, if I take you seriously… it simply revalidates my already low opinion of the synderjeet. which in turn informs the zeitgeist and you continue becoming the cultural pariah you are

>>212707987 (OP)
I genuinely think Man of Steel was a better movie, but it’s carried by Zod and the Krypton stuff. This movie did the Superman character better overall. Cavill was never given any good material because Snyder interpreted him as Jesus.

>>212713539
It still means you'll be able to make your own commercial Superman flicks.

>>212713304
>after toby gets almost killed in the train
wow that was funny af bro. one or two scenes doesnt make it such

>>212713849
brevity is the soul of wit, pedophile gunn cocksucker

>>212714007
>after superman had to watch powerlessly as an innocent man was shot in front of him in a sick russian roulette game
It's easy to play that game. Saying MoS and SP2 feel more alike than SP2 and S2025 is such insanity that I am ninety percent convinced you are shitposting

>>212707987 (OP)
I don't like the weird scaly MoS suit but it's better than the cheap rubbery looking 2025 suit
Cavill mogs Correnswet hard

>>212714196
>I don't like the weird scaly MoS suit
stopped reading -- if i had power you and your ilk would be burned alive

>>212707987 (OP)
the one that isn't a flop

>>212711791
>>212712091
these are some premium projectionsposts

>>212714225
Well ranjeet you don't so back to the streets with you

>>212714038
brevity is the soul of wit when you’re writing comedy, which is what wit is. not when you’re discussing neoclassical paintings. (You) brought them up.

furthermore, for fun. neoclassical art usually depict an event happening in the literal background while the peasantry react to it in the midground, normally posed in naturality. and what do we see in the supergunn example? an event happening in the background while superman reacts naturally by booting on a boot. honest to god if you’re not deliberately trying to piss off people, and you obviously are, then… you can see it, right? the depth of scale of the pillars leading to the soldiers? their anatomically correct proportion? hmm. anyway, here I am giving a mild dissertation on developing art theory and you’re calling me a gunnpedo cuck or whatever. this is one sided and I’m glad you’re receiving some dopamine from the attention. I just wish the guy posting neoclassical examples actually had something to say about it beyond standard issue and stale bantz. like talking to a chatgpt bot stuck on the chan setting

>>212707987 (OP)
Snyder/Cavill won.
The problem with the Snyderverse was always Warner Bros interference. Had Snyder been allowed to continue with his vision for the DCU we would be balls deep in fucking kino by now. Imagine putting hack Gunn in charge of your cinematic universe after the dogshit that was GotG3.

>>212713849
GUNNJEETS ARE FUCKING SEETHING LMAO! your also so pathetic and dumb and deserve a gas chamber

>>212714288
gunnfans are the pajeets, pajeet nigger

>>212708057
At least it actually has an S

>>212707987 (OP)
I'm white therefore i choose gunn's superman who is the quintessential white man movie.

>>212708301
t. Average RLM parroting retard.

>>212708047
no YOU are the bloody fucking!

>>212707987 (OP)
The one who isn't a manchild

i've never actually seen man of steel desu

>>212714401
jeets like gunnpedos, aryan chads like snyder you fucking troon cunt

>>212707987 (OP)
afraid it has to be gunn, sorry jeets

>>212714588
SAAAAAAR THAPPAD DOONGA!!!!!

>>212707987 (OP)
gunn needed snyders cinematography and action sequences

gunn got overconfident after his fight sequence in GOTG3
you can tell gunn is not an alpha chad fighter
it looked like he was trying to mimic anime style fighting
which will probably appease this generation going forward
i worry about the gunn version of batman but I dont think hes actually directing it

>>212707987 (OP)
Man of Steel fucking sucked.

>>212707987 (OP)
MoS is so much better as a movie its unreal. I legit have zero desire to watch this new nothingburger of a movie ever again but I have watched MoS more times than I can remember.

>>212714867
>>212714938
The duality of man

>>212714695
Gunn is strictly factually one hundred percent mid when it comes to fight scenes. Like he's not as bad as Nolan when he comes to fight scenes but he's still just passable at his absolute best. Like there is zero reason to watch a Gunn choreographed fight scene a second time. Dude is not even in the same league as peak Snyder before his Netflix falloff.

>>212707987 (OP)
My homosexuality does not allow me to accept anything other than absolute perfection, which is why I'm team Cavill. Even though I know he's a complete chud. I love chuds <3

>First look at James Gunn's Superman (2025) concept art!
Left was too kino that they had to scrap it

>>212715301
Left doesn't make sense since he uses that logo after Lois is killed.

>>212714470
Watch it. On a good set up if you have one and not you fucking phone. MoS will show you in real time how far things have fallen since then. Its peak Snyder with Nolan looking over is shoulder (he produced it) keeping him in check and from going completely off the rails.

I saw both in theaters and like both for different reasons.

>>212715351
then kill lois

>they took away his red trunks because they draw too much attention to his bulge, and also look like underpants worn on the outside
>they bring back the red trunks
for what purpose? if not to draw attention to his bulge?

>>212715518
They took away the trunks because they thought it looked goofy and wanted to modernize him.

>>212707987 (OP)
The escapist adventure one without hamfisted hypocritical liberal morals

>>212715552
With the stupid shiny scales he just looks like Aquaman with a cape. Cavill still a best.

>>212713408
>He had less because he died in the 100th episode in Season 5. Anything after was either a flashback or his ghost.
Autist anon... You know he's still acting even if its as a flashback or a ghost, right..? The actor didn't literally die and it magically doesnt count...

>>212708047
I get the complaints with the suit, but considering how many times they've gotten it wrong in live action it's surprisingly okay.
>>212708286
Going back and watching the first movie is great because it reminds you that there isn't even a debate worth having over who was the best to do it. I'm not even crazy about the movie itself but Reeve might be the best cast superhero actor we've ever gotten.
>>212708963
>pretty good story
>Infinity War
I'm not gonna pretend I didn't thoroughly enjoy some MCU movies but that one in particular was just a montage of characters meeting each other and fighting with no plot structure of its own. How is that your go-to example?

>>212715566
That's funny. Every time I think about conservative morals, the word "hypocritical" always comes to mind.

>>212708292
>my dad could beat up your dad!
if only these dead ends actually had fathers

>>212707987 (OP)
Cavill, the first minutes are better and Zodd

>>212707987 (OP)
left - FAS syndrome jew
right - aryan peak male physique

easy choice

>>212707987 (OP)
Cavil is hotter obviously but snyderman was basically batman as superman. Teh new superman is truer to the source material.

>>212710235
Fo'rizzle muh nizzle

>>212707987 (OP)
Spider-Man

Cavill is an awful actor. Literally only faggy men like him as Superman.

>>212715765
If I had imagined this on my own, I would have gouged out my mind's eye. Having seen it with my actual eyes...

>>212707987 (OP)
Cavill, duh. You have to be one sad contrarian joke to pick whatever the other one is.

>>212715702
In what way? Your camp is the one who goes on and on about how men should do hard work and adjust to dresscodes only to then scream "bigot" if the female privileges are not applied unto a mutilate dmale
Same thing with your crying that its "biggoted" to not approve a hijab at the workplace while you wouldnt approve a trucker cap or any other hat at the office work
If you watch Gunn's past films you will see hes a fratboy bully

>>212715840
The new Superman dont look like Superman and has a horrible voice with no authority in it

>>212710235
fr fr no cap famalam supes got that rizz for lois gyatt fuck lil jimmy gon do

How many times are they going to remake this shit before the year 2100? My guess is 100 times.

>>212715301
I don't like the use of Kingdom Come's logo, that's a mourning logo. I remember Alex Ross saying that the design was supposed to be cold and alien, because he didn't wanted to be around humans anymore.

Putting that aside, the bagging is clearly the worst aspect of the new costume, just like in GotG. In the third movie everybody's wearing bagging costumes and it feels so cheap and weid, to the point some characters like Nebula feels off, like some Uncanny Valley shit in some scenes and posters.

>>212716018
Would be hilarious if Corenswet demands a raise and gets deemed to expensive and cancelled, with John Cena staying another ten years and having been in a continuity with three different versions of Superman through soft rebooting

>>212708124
Superhero costumes need texture in live action otherwise it looks like cosplay or Halloween or worse.

>>212715702
Show me a "progressive" Hollywood film with troon inclusion which doesnt simultanously push for traditional dresscodes and masculinity with the "cismale" characters?

Gunn will NEVER reach this level of hype.
https://youtu.be/TgrbCFZ3qh8?si=kE0F2g1vONgGseC3

>>212707987 (OP)
Superman's side. DC's side.
The shit on the right doesn't exist, unless you are a drooling retard teenager contrarian

>>212707987 (OP)
who has the bigger dick?
that's the wiener

>>212715870
Cage was the wrong choice but the final costume was actually pretty good. They did some work on the fake muscles so they would move around with his body giving some realism and more movement than Keaton had in Batman. The real question is that if he would wear a hairpiece like he did in Ghost Rider, that was hilarious

>>212708124
The new suit is way too baggy
>>212709399
As does the Corenswet suit

>>212708033
What's Superman about him lmao

>>212716111
>fan screening held at Chennai - India at Vettri Theatres, by DC Trintiy.
kek whats with Indians and Snyder. I thought it was just a meme.

>>212708296
what's with that gay pose.

>>212716111
I feel like I'm going crazy. Man of Steel was a better movie but everyone seems to love this new one which is pure slop made for TikTok users.

>>212716111
I don't even remember there being any hype around man of steel. It just sort of went under the radar.

>>212715765
the only thing it's missing are defined and protruding nipples

>>212716147
I was wondering about it and Snyder movies do have that Bollywood vibe to them. The actions scenes and slow motion and all that.

>>212709449
The only symbol of hope we need

>>212716111
I remember there being way more hype for Superman Returns

>>212707987 (OP)
>pick muh side
Ah the retarded American mind at work, total disregard for nuance or subtlety

>>212716164
Bat nipples were my moment of awakening

>>212716153
Man of Steel is an actual garbage movie. Terrible writing terrible pacing, it's a miserable watch, has probably the most tone deaf quips in superhero movie history which is really saying something. The new movie is nothing special but it's authentic and innocent enough.

>>212708351
The character is about him caring too much. The stakes are him getting tricked into doing the wrong thing or having everyone around him dying because he can't be everywhere at once.

Snyder upped the stakes by having him on the verge of snapping if the people he cared about ended up dying.

>>212716210
BUT MUH TEAM HAS TO WIN WOOOT

>>212716104
Yeah but compare the texture on Tobey's spider suit to the MOS suit. I agree you need some kind of visual stitching to give it weight but the larger patterns are distracting. Even in the same universe Batfleck's cloth looked pretty good for balancing the solid gray without being too noisy.

>>212708126
>Plenty of us liked MoS when it came out too.
lmao no
>And judging by box office, we're the majority.
lmao no
No snyderverse, remember?

>>212716276
The whole dynamic of Zod seeing Superman as a traitor and Superman having to sacrifice his own race for humanity is more substantial than anything in this new movie or any new comic book movie. The rest of the movie has obvious issues (the tone, Clark's personal life was entirely shit) but that was the main anchor of the movie and it worked out well I think.

>>212716127
Well after doing some forensic analysis, Gunnman clearly has a pointed tip in his codpiece but no discernible lines so its hard to tell. But on Snyderman, you can clearly see a shape with downward lines leading to a bulge showing his whole outline. However, they appear to be about the same position, so they are equally inadequate. Hope this helped.

>>212716153
>everyone
The few comic purists and Gunn's fanboys that showed up. Everyone else looked at the trailer, had a good laugh and moved on with their life.

>>212716276
The new movie is Netflix Original tier that feels like it was built by algorithm for widest mainstream appeal. It fits perfectly into the watch for two hours and forget mentality of current movies.

MoS on the other hand is an actual movie movie worth remembering re-watching and talking about even ten years later.

>>212716417
That dynamic would work a lot better if the movie was written better, but Zod deciding to geocide the humans and murder Clark for next to no reason make him too absurd to take seriously, and it also robs Superman of the 'choice' that's supposed to be the entirety of his character arc. A real shame because Michael Shannon as Zod is a fucking beacon of joy in that movie.

>>212713553
>Raimi's spiderman is not campy.
It almost hits Xena levels at least twice.

>>212716485
MMMEGAAAAAA GAAAAAAAAYYY

>>212716485
Thank you for your service

>>212716643
>wait a second, xena can't fly
>i told you, i'm not xena, i'm lucy lawless
>oh

>>212716485
based faggot

Jews control the world

>>212716655
If you think grown men arguing about who is the more aesthetic superman is gay, then... well, then. I can't finish this sentence.

Corenswet is unironically better. 6'4 and massive. He has that imposing Superman size.

>>212709116
they were dogshit, including MoS

>>212716634
>geocide the humans and murder Clark for next to no reason


It was all clearly spelled out in the movie. The Kyryptonians weren't the type to forgo development permits because some endangered bird lived in a stream nearby. Its why their planet ended up being destroyed. They literally drilled it to death.

>>212708649
>people wanting DC to adopt the MCU style, right?
No, it was people wanting actual DC comics instead of what we got

>>212707987 (OP)
>James Gunn Superman makes less than The Batman did opening weekend three years ago
>The Batman is considered a middling success with no sequel greenlit
>Superman 2025 is considered a box office hit that brought woke back and owned the chuds
Explain this.

>>212716485
God doesn't give with both hands.

>>212716634
Snyder’s Zod sucked! He just made Zod The Eradicator. Smallvile’s Zod better and more in line with character. He didn’t want to turn Earth into Krypton. He didn’t give a shit about Krypton since they threw him in the Phantom Zone. He wanted to get power under yellow Sun so him men could rule over Earth.

>>212709285
You are crying about your panned manchildren franchise since the last decade, manchild
>>212709397
Coke doesn't flop, unlike snydershit

>>212709397
These two look so damn alike
they are twins
I say who want Superman? they both say yes

>>212709359
So you are just gay

>>212716874
Yes that is how it was written and in doing so they removed all of Superman's agency and made the movie less interesting.

>>212711296
Theneveryone has autism, because the snydershit was universally rejected

>>212716276
What "writing" is there in Gunn's Superman? Gunn's Superman has the same ADHD pacing as Rise of Skywalker for the tik tok generation

>>212709397
The most important part of a man are the folds under his eyes. Cavill's are well-defined. Corenswet's look like his eyes got poofy and swollen.

>>212716921
Spin baby, spin!

>>212717026
I am gay for Henry Cavill and I don't care who knows it.

>>212717055
>they removed all of Superman's agency


??How so?

>>212717142
>Telling us things about yourself we already know.

Cavill's costume and face are better but his hairline is dire.

>>212707987 (OP)
as much as I'm a comic lover and love the classic red and blue undies on the outside design, that costume looks like shit compared to Cavill's version.

>>212717119
Superman 2025 made only 5 million more than Man of Steel did 13 years ago opening weekend . . . not adjusted for inflation.

Snyder easily and I'm not a big cape fan

snyder is soulless

>>212717151
Instead of choosing between Earth and Krypton, between being a savior or a conquerer, or even when and where he reveals himself to the world (his adoptive father died so he could have this choice) the choice he's given is to let Zod murder him and destroy his world or to not let him do that.

>>212717282
Snyder makes good trailers and is able to get people to see his movies opening weekend. The word of mouth gets around and they drop off big time.

>>212708047
Honestly my only real issue with Routh's suit is that the red is too dark and looks brown in some lighting. Of course this movie came out during that era where comic book movies were taking themselves way too seriously and dressing all the heroes in muted colors and black leather, but Superman should have stood out with bright, bold color.

>>212715696
>I'm not even crazy about the movie itself but Reeve might be the best cast superhero actor we've ever gotten.
Adam West was pretty perfect for Batman (at the time the comics were super silly), and RDJ and Chris Evans were pretty perfect as Iron Man and Captain America. I think Chris Evans as Capis unironically the closest thing we ever got to Reeve Superman, as ridiculous as that sounds. He's not a great actor (at all lol) but he worked so well for the character and they both have that classic inspirational superhero vibe that no other hero can match.

>>212712221
Therefore normal, the majority and a winner?

Coronswet has too much of a gayboy face.

>>212717275
When a man's face is on-point, I am able to disregard his hairline and waistline.

>>212708073
4chan is nothing but contrarianism, welcome to the club

>>212714302
ok not him but to use a different phrase you cant disregard on the basis of authorial intent... If you dont understand something well you will use more words than necessary, smart people can summarize the most complex things to make them simple.

>>212717554
Good morning

>>212717508
He does have gayface, doesn't he? That's what you will never get with a 100% straight chud. They don't ever have the gayface.

>>212716048
I hated this as well because they are adapting a comic outfit for them but in the comics its a tight fitting fabric they somehow translated into baggy motorcycle leather.

>>212707987 (OP)
Suit wise, I think MoS has some good things going on, but I like the more clasical look of S(2025)
Superman wise, S(2025), I just feel more from the part of superMAN than the allegory for christ. mf barely smiles.

>>212716048
All of GotG3 has a certain cheapness to it that I find hard to explain. It just feels like the same care and detail that was put into the previous movies just isn't there.

>>212708265
Just realized why Corenswet has a closed collar. Pencil neck.

>>212708073
We did a 360 and moonwlaked away.

>>212717379
Do you really think Gunnerman has a chance of making a billion?

>>212708047
No. This was just faggot Bryan Singer being a twink fetishistic pederast. Straight men say "Nope" to Brandon Routh's Superman because they didn't even allow him to work out.

>>212717444
Yeah I think the MCU misses Evans more than RDJ since Endgame. Doomsday is going to be a disaster.

>>212717679
Henry's neck is almost wider than his jaw. That is the mark of a real man.

>>212717694
I don't care how much these movies make because I'm not an investor at WB/Disney so it's irrelevant to me. Fact is regardless of how much it makes they're going to continue Gunn's DCU and make more movies.

>>212717444
I would Hemsworth in there as perfect casting as well. He so good in fact that people take for granted the fact that before he came along the thought of casting a live action Thor was thought to be impossible.

Tight suits are impractical

>>212717508
Physiognomy is real.

>>212717766
wow saar this look like just the movie saar phul support to israel saar can indian join IDF saar??

>>212717759
We'll probably just see Whor or BRB once Hemsworth retires. Can't imagine anyone else as Thor.

>>212713318
>>left is himbo crybaby wannabe Invincible
you haven't see the movie

>>212717726
RDJ Doomsday is not going to do anything evil. They just won't do it.

>>212707987 (OP)
This drawing alone has more hearts than any #restorethesnyderverse tweet i've seen right now on Twitter

>>212717795
Do you deny that he's cute, like a little boy? He IS cute. But we mustn't slobber over the cuteness of a young man, lest we be labeled "groomers".

>>212708018
>i lub dat recedin hairline

It's funny how they've only managed to nail Superman's casting exactly one time in the character's entire 87 year history. Why is it so difficult?

>>212717875
who is this stick-figure
where is the fake muscle suit?

>>212717508
maybe ur just gay

>>212707987 (OP)
The Superman that is not a pussy version of Homelander.

>>212717875
Welling was second to Reeve. Reeve even vouched for him to be the Superman in the Singer movie when it was announced.

>>212708047
>Singer
>Spacey
>Kal Penn
Yep...that boipussi was devastated during the filming of that flick.

You faggots should have meet ups and fight each other like men. Cosplay optional.

>>212711110
>>212709922
What a shit take. We know they were going for the Injustice storyline with Lois dying and Supes turning evil. There need not be any of your head canon adulterating it.

both are dogshit. but the snyder films at least look big budget

Mix them together and you almost have something cool

>>212714310
>>212714038
ok but stop crying

>>212717808
Thor is the only character in movies that truly can't be recast. They will just kill him off once Hemsworth retires and never go back to the character for like 20 or 30 years until some unknown Brit or Aussie grade school kid nobody has ever heard of grows up and can actually play the part. Either that or they will just make an A.I. Hemsworth to fill in. (the dark timeline)

>>212718111
Kek no, looks retarded

>>212718082
>but the snyder films at least look big budget


This Gunn movie looks like $200m Netflix slop. I

>>212714225
All the power you'll ever have is seething about snydershit being univesally derided forever

>>212717858
>Gay coded superman

Yeah no.

>>212714309
Lmao, if allowed to continue everyone at WB and DC would be poor
Snyderverse never ever

>>212718157
You can see Corensweet genes taking the soul out of Cavill

>>212717508
My Zest-O-meter does get a reading from his face. Its not off the charts but the needle isn't sitting at zero either.

>>212718008
Welling really could have been great if they ever allowed him to wear the suit. Even when he cameoed in Arrowverse he was the one who insisted on maintaining "no tights, no flights."

>>212713090
>gay
>based
Well done anon

>>212718008
>Welling was second to Reeve
This. Too bad it never happened.

>>212718489
He hurt himself by doing that. The first four years? I get it, didn't want to be typecast and wanted to tell the story of Clark growing up. After that, though, he should have bailed or agreed to do the suit. The whole "red blue blur" thing where he was Superman-ing around with terrible blur effects was just pure stupidity. The ship on being a huge movie-star had faded and he could have been a very memorable Superman. Now he's remembered as taking an idea meant to avoid silliness to the point of even sillier silliness.

>>212718043
I'm not gay so I don't like thinking about it but there's no way Routh didn't casting couch his way to that part with Singer.

>>212715352
Lmao, it bombed and everyone laughed.
Nobody watches it and all your sperging won't keep it alive
Go on, push people to watch Prometheus and SW prequels too

>>212714695
Snyder is just about over the to uncreative violence and destruction porn.
This movie actually had creative use of powers and action scenes that had a reson to exist

>>212712838
A little context here.

One is from one of the most badass fight sequences ever filmed in the history of mankind and one of from a scene about muh feelings that is played as a lame joke sequence.

>>212714938
>I have watched MoS more times than I can remember.
This propbably explains your low IQ

>>212715097
Snyder was always Netflix

>>212713341
Say what you want about the writing but MoS is a 10/10 when it comes to costumes and visual art direction and design. All the way from Krypton onward MoS is a visual masterpiece that mogs any other modern superhero movie to a level that isn't even funny or fair. Which is all because he had Nolan looking over his shoulder keeping him from going overboard with the saturation and colors like in later Snyderverse movies. After MoS I was really looking forward to how they were going to pull off placing other mega level superheroes i n the more grounded and realistic world of MoS but we never got it. The design changed after MoS to a more fantastical aesthetic which was totally different from MoS. But still mogs current superhero movies regardless. Especially this one.

>>212715947
>>212715891
Lololololol

>>212719250
Snyder has the ability to direct well when constrained, and when given a good script. This is another case of "if only x and y and z then it would have been great." A better written script with better Pa Kent and less destruction at the end could have been great. Snyder is like Lennon going wacky after the Beetles broke up. Good ideas when someone else is there to keep them in check.

>>212717086
Superman
>>212716513
Rebel Moon
>>212716417
A pity the movie piss and shit on his own incoherent plot and themes

>>212713772
I rewatch this scene all the time. This ten minutes mogs the entirety of Gunn's movie. The fight choreography and for the love of god the soundtrack that pisses me off that it was never sold separately as a track you can buy.

https://youtu.be/fPyGnlct1o0?si=C5UIjVDU8MIGDMSG