Why is Superman (2025) not doing good outside the US?

people hate America now

stop making capeshit threads nigger
hang yourself on a barb wire you fucking faggot manchild
every capeshitter should be violently killed on camera cartel style

>>212710116 (OP)
trump’s tarrifs unironically

>>212710242
rent free

>>212710116 (OP)
>You'll believe a man can cry and get beaten up
>Looks goofy and gay
>Anti-Trump/anti-Israel/pro-Palestine
>Everywhere except America is sick of capeslop

>>212710305
nah the rent is about 35%

>>212710201
>stop making capeshit threads nigger
hang yourself on a barb wire you fucking faggot manchild every capeshitter should be violently killed on camera cartel style

>>212710116 (OP)
Europoors are poor.

I think it's pretty clear.
Snyder made a safe generic blockbuster version of Superman. Gritty & realistic to make it appeal to people who dismiss Superman as kiddy trash. Removed all the comic book cheese from it. It was safe and it worked.
Gunn did a 180 on that. Brought all the comic book cheese back, that mostly resonates with people who care about the comics—Americans. It's anything but safe, because they probably realized it's not 2013 and capeshit fatigue is getting real. It's not really trying to be a generic blockbuster. All of this backfired.

>>212710116 (OP)
Becauce he b a homosex

>>212710116 (OP)
Check the catalog before posting duplicate threads

>>212710459
>It was safe and it worked.
It did? MoS was a huge misfire.

>>212710116 (OP)
They wanted Superman, not Supermanchild

>>212710116 (OP)
feels like I've already seen it

>>212711511
You also saw this thread before and responded to it again

>>212710600
>grossed 670 million against 250 million budget
>singlehandedly established Cavill as a household name
>revived a movie franchise that was in limbo since 1987, with a 2006 movie that nearly killed it for good
This was a "huge misfire" according to deranged types on /tv/

>>212710116 (OP)
Post-covid, too hot to see a movie, hack snyder ruined the brand for a bazillion years, and trump made them all hate American movies except Jurassic World Rebirth

>>212711585
I've been out all day boso

>>212710116 (OP)
It's just not a good movie.

>>212710150
This
Superman was already an American-adjacent IP, now everyone hates us so much that even travel and tourism is suffering

Kek

The movie looked awful it's not our fault we don't want to watch movies that look like a credit card commercial
It's why the Snyder Era of DC actually made money

Heroes are supposed to mythic and something to aspire to
Why would I want to aspire to be a ugly Jewish zoomer?

Add to that the film having no big names because Gunn just hired all his mates as he always does

>>212710116 (OP)
This movie is hot garbage thats why

>>212710116 (OP)
A significant element is just that China prefers their domestic movies, now.
This is a big reason why every Superhero film this year and last year before this one has lost money.
Combine that with how Trump ruined America's international reception, decreasing the willingness of people from other countries to see a film about the most iconic American fictional character massively.

>>212710150
>now

>>212712040
over 50% of your pic is Jews and mutts though

>>212710242
This is insane rent free levels of cope. You mean they have money to see F1 and Jurrasic Park but not superman? Gunnjeets are drying out gloriously

See
They are jackasses
Just trolling away
They will tell any lie
Say anything to upset you
They enjoy being insulted
They are dishonest hypocrites
Nothing is serious until they want it to be
It's a mixture white losers and brown trash...

>>212710116 (OP)
Because Orange man has ruined relationships with many countries

>>212712527
Its not cope, its an American Superhero that has red white and blue colors. China hates us because we have been buttfucking their economy but now they seem to have found a way out but they still hate us.

>>212710116 (OP)
>make le inclusive Superman movie for every {fuck drumpf)
>it does poorly, foreigners hate it even more than the last one
Kek

>>212712527
dinosaurs and race cars don’t stand for truth justice and the american way

>>212710116 (OP)
Trump and Biden basically made the US a global pariah.

>>212712622
>Gunn Superman is projected to make only $10M in China
For comparison, Flash made $13M in opening weekend alone and went on to gross $26M total, kek
>China hates an American icon like Supes more than a tranny pedo
Grim.

>>212710116 (OP)
Guardians of the Galaxy and Man Of Steel also had terrible international opening weekends

>>212710459
Can confirm. This is why I didn't watch it. Not because of the weather or Trump (seriously?).

>>212712433
>Combine that with how Trump ruined America's international reception
And yet other American movies are doing just fine. Quit using Trump to cope. It ain't gonna work.

>>212712527
Jurrasic World literally beat the Avengers too so what’s your point

>So bad people are going back to Snyder
Guys if we're not careful WBD might pull a Michael Bay

>>212712766
Other American movies aren’t literally based on an American icon dummy. Jurassic Park isn’t inherently American, Superman is.

>>212712793
Holy shit... Gunnbros we're FUCKED!

>>212712527
it’s not rent free, the rent is 35%

>>212710116 (OP)
it's not doing good inside the US either

>>212710116 (OP)
I'm Norwegian and I watched it yesterday with my mentally handicapped cousin
he couldn't follow the plot at all, but he really loved it

>>212712839
Only the 1970s Superman had global appeal. Since then Superman has mainly been an American character. I've been to several other countries, I constantly see kids wearing Spiderman shirts and talking about the Avengers. None of them care at all about Superman, he is considered an American character part of our culture alone.

>>212713056
I wish I was mentally handicapped so I could enjoy this movie

>>212713102
But you're already mentally handicapped.

Trump basically made everyone hate us and Superman by extension since he’s like the best of America

>>212710116 (OP)
It's a fun movie but it's not a grand Superman film.
It's not relevant anymore when you are used to more complex characters like Homelander that get enough time to develop over several seasons, with boombastic hollywood tier like vfx. Why would I ever go back to a simplistic Superman movie with subpar vfx and a convoluted cast? And I don't even hate the movie, it was fun, but completely forgettable.

>>212713177
Is that why Captain American flopped ?

>>212713096
Yeah I would argue in terms of DC only Batman has that level of worldwide appeal

>>212710116 (OP)
The US is the babyman capital of the world.
There are only stragglers dotted elsewhere.

Snyder was better. Simple as.

>>212713096
It's strange that DC hasn't tried to alleviate this issue before making this new Superman movie because now it seems like the problem that will tank its box office potential. Batman is globally popular because he fits a unique archetype of being a brooding dark vigilante, and the Nolan films are hits. Superman doesn't have that universal draw because he doesn't have a popular film series like Marvel/Batman and doesn't fill any niche.

>>212710116 (OP)
two many wars for people to care

>>212713490
>two many wars
American Moment™

>>212713403
How are they supposed to alleviate when they wasted their chance on making their characters globally popular in the 2010s AFTER the Avengers already came out on fucking Zack Snyder. You can't recover from that, superhero movies are no longer the 100% ensured box office draw they once were and the short window in history where they were was wasted on Batman v Superman.

>>212710116 (OP)
Because the trailers were shit.

>>212710459
>Snyder made a safe generic blockbuster version of Superman. Gritty & realistic to make it appeal to people who dismiss Superman as kiddy trash. Removed all the comic book cheese from it. It was safe and it worked.
This is why I can't believe Snyder fans actually exist. How the fuck were you invested in a franchise that was ashamed of its source material? If you to want to watch Battle: Los Angeles just go watch that.

>>212710242
it really is.

>>212713775
>How the fuck were you invested in a franchise that was ashamed of its source material?
Bro, who gives a shit? I just like the movie. It ain't that serious.

>>212710116 (OP)
> Why is Superman (2025) not doing good outside the US?

> Captain America: Brave New World continues to get a red, white and blue wave of support worldwide following a strong opening weekend. However, the sequel, which was released on Valentine's Day, is getting no love in China as locals claim the sequel must "die" as the animated blockbuster, Ne Zha 2, grows in popularity.

>>212710116 (OP)
Nobody fucking knows how well it's doing yet outside of studios until Saturday. The international box office updates weekly, not daily like domestic. Newfags seem to be ignorant of this.

>>212712766
mission impossible 7 and 8 both made less money than 6

>>212713628
they were awful, didn't seem to be about anything. who needs to see Superman being nagged by a bitch, a faggot, a nagger and the justice league, just tell a story.

>>212714189
Liking a movie doesn't make you a "fan". I mean the ones who were lobbying for the reboot to flop as if that meant Warner would restore the Snyder-conceived DCU.

>>212712640
Neither does Superman. He stands for the Human Way now.

>>212713775
It's just cutting out the cheesy shit. The same way others cut out the fanservice. I have a feeling a lot of rabid Snyder haters are all on board with that one.

>>212713775
See, that's the thing. I assume you're an American fan of Superman. Perhaps you grew up with the comics, the cartoons and maybe Smallville, maybe seen the 80s films. The rest of the world did not, they have a surface level knowledge of Superman, the rest of it is like Star Trek for them, they perhaps heard of it but don't care about it.
Ultimately, you can simply have different visions for the same things. Like take Batman—you have the 60s show, Burton, and Nolan. All of them have their fans, and btw—Nolan also altered quite a lot about Batman, he made it way more realistic, and he's still praised to this day. Superman can be light and cartoony, he can be dark and realistic. There will be fans of both.
Second, imagine you're making, for example, a DBZ or Doraemon movie. Surely enough, you know most international audiences won't know half of the niggers from these shows. You also understand that half the people won't get Doraemon at all, and at best you want to shoehorn it into a Pixar formula. Or that the majority of Americans don't like anime, and DBZ will need to be changed.
Same thing with Superman. Of course it will enrage purists, but there's a reason these sacrifices are being made.

>>212710150
Fpbp
America has lost its luster and prestige to the world. Its an incompetent jew golem and everyone knows it. If not for the banks that are keeping it running through credit it be a 3rd world country. Rest of the world sees it as an evil country that subjugated others through its degenerate nigger jew democracy and pop culture.

>>212710116 (OP)
Trump taxes, obviously. People are very pissed with the United States right now.

>>212712527
dc will always be the sams cola to marvels coca cola
always lame unless it's batman

>>212710116 (OP)
The scenes with the dog are seen as too erotic in muslim areas and the asian cultures think it is rude to play with your food.

>>212712433
China loved the jurassic park apparently thoever

>>212717243
JP is an established brand and isn’t an American symbol like Superman. Look at every country refusing to watch Superman. Germany, Korea, bongland, China. All of them got hit with massive tariffs form Trump.

>>212710116 (OP)
Personally I think it looks cheap and cheesy in the trailer with too much happening for a proper story line to be logistically possible. That's the impression that I get.

>>212717383
Just admit movie is shit bruv. It ain't that complicated

>>212710116 (OP)
It sucks

>>212712561

You trannies should be hunted down with baseball bats. And not just for the fun of it.

>>212717918
tranny derangement syndrome won't make you white saar

>>212710116 (OP)
>Why is Superman (2025) not doing good outside the US?
Superman emasculated, bleeds too much, loses fights, is not super, is a universe of gags, even looks like Looney Tunes and the actresses lack the sexy look from the comics

>>212717955
>tranny derangement
Remind again who it is that needs medical procedures because their "minds" don't match their bodies.

>>212710116 (OP)
Liberal fatigue

>>212710201
>cape derangement syndrome
Sad!

>>212710242
Really? I fucking love the tarrifs now

>>212710116 (OP)
Because we already have Goku.

>>212718287
this, anime has replaced capeshit, normies don't give a shit about capeshit after endgame, meanwhile half of all netflix accounts watch anime

>>212710459
This.
There's a flying super-dog in the movie, so I won't be watching. It's so cheesy and stupid.

>>212718377
See, people are different. Some people missed all these characters, from Krypto to all the other weirdos, the "actual" comic book Superman stuff. Others would say that they were omitted for a good reason, and what was cool in the 50s should have stayed in the 50s.
This is ultimately why Snyder/Gunn debate is so polarizing. They're basically polar opposite extremes of each other. And sorry this is revealing the biggest conflict of capeshit—that a lot of its auditory actually fucking hates comic books for children.

>>212710201
>>212710116 (OP)
>>212710242
>>212710360


>the most criminal, evil and hated country in human history thinks it would create a man like this

If Superman were real, he would be burning black children with his heat vision

>>212719053
I think back to the comics/cartoons I liked as a kid. NONE of them had a flying human/humanoid or flying dog!
TMNT had Baxter Stockman and he could fly, but he was half fly/half human so it made sense (to me).

Europe prefers mcu

>>212710242
Mission Impossible did well in May.

>>212719104
>the most criminal, evil and hated country in human history
That's Nazi Germany

>>212719485
Dayumm

>>212713775
>How the fuck were you invested in a franchise that was ashamed of its source material?
That's been popular for over a decade now. The MCU is constantly making fun of itself and the source material. It rarely handles itself with any sincerity and yet it went on to make billions.

>>212710116 (OP)
Not sure, Gunn might have something to do with it.

>>212719485
superMAN

>>212719846
Easy. Gunn's Superman is easy to use for bullying in schools. It's way too cringy and camp to be associated with it. Gunn thought he made a family film but it will turn out to be the direct opposite and push people away from it.

>>212715388
>Second, imagine you're making, for example, a DBZ or Doraemon movie. Surely enough, you know most international audiences won't know half of the niggers from these shows. You also understand that half the people won't get Doraemon at all, and at best you want to shoehorn it into a Pixar formula.
I work as a software dev for boring monitoring tools. If I got the chance at a creative project, I'd throw myself into source material and try to create the best possible movie that still maintains the essence of the original.

>>212719620
If you are a Jew or buy into their propaganda. What of the Dutch for opperating the slave trade, or Spain for the absolute destruction of the South American civilizations? The Nazis were a misunderstanding by comparison.

>>212713628
Yeah, they really don't do the movie any justice. Even worse watching them in retrospect. Which is a shame because it's one of the very few capeshit movies that's actually just a good movie.

Because other countries have taste

>>212720094
>I'd throw myself into source material and try to create the best possible movie that still maintains the essence of the original.
That's great but this is Superman. Which version are you talking about?

>>212712433
Deadpool and Wolverine was last year and did great.

>>212720094
It's fine to say generic phrases, but that's where things get tricky. The problem is, the "essence" of the original Superman (I mean the old issues) is often comic book cheese for children, while most normies hate comic books for children.
The same applies to my analogy. You're trying to adapt an anime for regions / people that don't like anime.
It's a dilemma that can be addressed in many ways, but ultimately you have to choose what to sacrifice.

>>212712040
>It's why the Snyder Era of DC actually made money
lmao

>>212713355
Trvke

>>212714266
Tell that to the entire movie press, both American and foreign, as they are reporting on th overseas numbers

>>212720517
What's your point? Didn't all Snyder Superman movies actually make money? Including BvS.

>>212710116 (OP)
Obligatory reminder that capeshit is shit.

>>212720140
>Because other countries have taste
>jurrasic part 9

lol

>>212710116 (OP)
spic here, its a huge hit in my third world shit hole

>>212719485
YUM

>>212710360
>>Anti-Trump/anti-Israel/pro-Palestine
its anti israel for sure, i was so happy when nethanyahoo got killed
didnt get any anti trump vibes, no one even looked orange or anything to make it be anti trump

>>212721182
Colombia only sold 7 dollars worth of tickets

>>212710116 (OP)
Supermid

>>212721245
im not that third world
im in mexico, it made $8.8 million over here

>>212721678
you guys are great at sneaking into shit though... I am shocked they caught enough of you it made that much

>>212710654
Yeah, that's why nobody liked snyderman.
On the other hand Superman 2025...

>>212711940
That's just what you wish while crying about no snyderverse

>>212722110
...is underperforming.....
....even against man of steel......
.... unadjusted to inflation.....

>>212712040
The shit you posted drove the Ip into the ground and everyone was relieved when Snyder was kicked ut to rot and flop on netflix
>it made money
lololololol
You lie no matter what, on repeat, like a tranny

>>212712733
Man of Steel did not. Why are you lying kek

>>212712626
Everyone hated the last one

>>212714266
Since when has it ever been like this. Lmao the levels of cope for this gunnslop is insane.

>>212713355
If that was true there woud be a snyderverse, instead of Rebel Moon

>>212718173
>things that never happened

Considering that we've still got Avatar, Wicked, Zootopia and Fantastic Four lined up, there's a very strong chance that Superman does not even make it onto the bottom of this chart (and frankly I don't expect Fantastic Four to do great either but it'll probably beat this anemic performance)

New DC is dead out of the gate

>>212719053
You are too invested into hating this movie and only this movie to play le neutral.
And they are polar opposites because S25 is Superman, and the other is hatefiction

>>212720150
The iconic version

>>212720838
No. they had no legs

>>212722173
You keep saying that as it will become true
no snyderverse
because snydershit flopped
unadjusted for inflation

>>212722413
>FLOPFLOP FLOP FLOP
Stop crying

>>212722582
And Superboy flops worse......
....out the gate......
...woah.....

>>212710116 (OP)
It's always been a North America friendly property, and dont't be a low information chud, Hollywood is mostly dead to China now and especially Russia, other markets are depressed now, and Latin America is doing okay.

>>212722643
Did you quote the wrong post

>>212712025
I bet Trump gonna put a tax on Americans going overseas for tourism. Just wait.

>>212722708
>waaaa waaaa waaaaa
lmao
learn the difference between what you want and what actually happens. And move on, loser

>>212722810
158,000,000 is larger than 153,000,000.....

>>212722810
>>212722643
So uhh
Do you have any numbers to talk about or is literally every post you make just gonna be
>abloo bloo cope pissbaby kek

>>212722712
It’ll be interesting to see how China handles the Fantastic Four. Whether they see it as American and boycott it like they did with Captain America

>>212722413
>there's a very strong chance that Superman does not even make it onto the bottom of this chart

I... smell a delusion. Nobody expects this to make less than $400 at the very least. Maybe if you stuck to trashing F4 with its non-bright Galactus I'd have taken you seriously. After watching Thunderbolts and Superman, I want F4 to GTFO.

>>212722891
>>212722866
>oh my snyder, look at my imaginary number
That definitely proves that your flopped universe thate nobody wanted is good, right?
Snydersit didn't drive theIP into the ground, right?
It's not just delusion after a decade of crying, right?

TLDR: cry more, kiddo

>>212723124
>Revenue is imaginary bro!
You need to be 18+ to post here lil nig

>>212723192
>I'm willpowering numbers!
You need to have to have 70+ IQ to post here, Forrest

>>212723046
>Nobody expects this to make less than $400 at the very least
Is everybody on this board illiterate
I named multiple movies that are likely to land higher on the chart before 2026 and you just chose not to hear it

When did people start obsessing over international box office? Is this a sign of a decline?

>>212715240
>It's just cutting out the cheesy shit.
The snyder movies were cheesy and goofy though.

>>212723460
It's the only way they have to defend their bad movies, flopped long time ago

>>212710116 (OP)
Trump said he would tariff movie industry if they went outside of America to make movies. This pissed off movie goers in other countries big time.

>>212712527
Jurassic rebirth LITERALLY has second lowest grossed jurassic park movie you fucking retard. You have to count inflation.

>>212723402
You listed movies that are at the bottom of the chart already done, box office wise, while Superman isn't even on its first Monday.

Eat shit, you didn't fool me.

>>212722552
>No. they had no legs
That's not what he asked
Did they make money?

>>212723460
>When did people start obsessing over international box office
When the opening projections for domestic kept getting lower and lower

Anyone remember when Gunntrannies claimed this would make $175 opening weekend DOM and make a billion?

It got so bad the trades came out and called WB shills out on the actual tracking numbers being around $90M to $120M (almost bang on the higher end of that tracking)

>>212710116 (OP)
>Why is Superman (2025) not doing good outside the US?
Who gives a fuck about outside of america

>>212710360
>>Anti-Trump/anti-Israel

superman should be antipedo

>>212710116 (OP)
> Why is Superman (2025) not doing good outside the US?

No idea

>>212724447
Yeah. An awfully small amount, but it made money. Terrible investment and terrible damage to the brand