Thread 212712726

*greatly improves your capekino*

>>212712726 (OP)
Turned it off after he just straight up shot a dude. That's not Lex, Lex is cerebral. The best Lex interpretations are the ones who understand he's sharply cynical and exceedingly brilliant. If Clark represents the best of what humanity could be, Lex represents the best of what it currently is.

>>212712726 (OP)
Thanks we really needed another one of these threads

True.

>>212712726 (OP)
Best adaption of Lex in a movie for sure.
>>212712892
>Lex represents the best of what it currently is.
You're more retarded than all the Snyderjeets put together. Lex is the worst of humanity. He's the guy who could at least as much good as Superman if not more if he cared to, but he doesn't. Instead he cares about Superman for getting more praise than Luthor gets for doing nothing for anyone.

>>212712892
Lex is a fucking horrible person. He's not the best of anything other than pure raw intelligence. He smothers any avenue in which he could be a force for good in his own pettiness and nihilism.

>>212712726 (OP)
The best lex luthor. Batman v superman had the worst lex luthor in history. Snyder is truly a hack.

Trump Elon

He's my Superman.

>>212712993
>>212713071
Wrong. He didn't build his massive empire by being some angry incel or whatever you trannies are trying to push.

>>212713231
No one said this.

>>212713204
No, he's smart.

>>212713231
And it got derailed by the appearance of Superman who appeared 3 years ago. He wasn’t a supervillain until Superman arrived but that’s all he is after Superman arrives.

>>212712726 (OP)
>absolutely reprehensible version of the character even by Lex Luthor standards, much more despicable than other adaptations have had
>still felt a little bad for him when he was standing watching his world crumble before him with tears sliding down his face
Was this just good acting by Hoult that I still felt some pity for an objectively terrible person who more than earned their downfall?

>>212713231
he is in no way an "incel" and his fury is directed specifically at Superman, who inherently enrages him on every level

>>212713268
Trump and Elon are smarter than (you)

>>212712892
Lex is Gaius Baltar if he had balls
Baltar is redeemable because his pride was piddling yet ever present, while lex fuels his pride which is a deadly sin for a reason. Neither are the 'best' of humanity but I would say they're more dynamic than most humans around them.

>>212713279
Is it that there are 'bad' horses?
When a herd of them is seen in the wild, it is more difficult to say 'this one is bad' or 'this is one is good'
There is no one in the wild who takes horses
When a horses is tamed and is found to not ride well, to buck, to go off course, it is then that we say the horse is 'bad' or 'unfit' or 'unruly'.
It is men who make bad horses.
Is it superman who throughout history makes bad men? Or do we men do that enough already?

>>212712726 (OP)
He’s the second worst Lex Luthor (behind BVS Lex).

Why is adapting Lex such a hard thing to do?

>>212714241
"no"

>>212713331
No, they aren't.

(Not that anon, it's just statistically unlikely)

>>212714241
>(behind BVS Lex)
Good one anon

>>212712892
I was explaining how to my bro how him straight up shooting that guy was out of character for Lex Luthor.

>>212712726 (OP)
After watching it I was explaining to my bro how him straight up shooting that guy was out of character for Lex Luthor.

>>212714616
Did you call you a fuckin nerd?

>>212712726 (OP)
Fabulous scientific powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft my raging envy and said "By the power of Cueball, I have the glower!". I became Seethe-man, the most petty man in the universe.

>>212712726 (OP)
I couldn't take him seriously because he looks like his Mad Max character

>>212716564
I don't know why everyone was on his nuts as an actor going into this. Like sure the dude dan deliver lines well but he has never even remotely shown even a molecule of gravitas or being threatening in anything I have seen him in from X-men to Mad Max. or anything else. He just comes off as a lightweight nice guy. Not anyone to be scared of ever, like at all. Then as Lex Luthor he was just a two dimensional mustache twirler with no depth. Like nothing even remotely interesting. Just generic villain #3426.

>>212717466
was he supposed to cry about mean daddy or something?

>>212712726 (OP)
First Lex to really show why he really hates Superman.

>>212712726 (OP)
When the trailer first released and they showed his goofy close-up, I jokingly asked if Superman was going to cuck him like Count Orlok.
Turns out I was only incorrect because it was Jimmy Olsen who cucked him instead.

>>212712726 (OP)
why was he more handsome than superman?

>>212717466
>>212716564

Have you guys seen him in that U.K. series Skins where he seems to run circles around others and also seems kind of sociopathic.

>>212717591

Because everytime Superman intervenes and foils his schemes, Luthor goes into a malding rage and loses hair?

>>212717591

Should add that I can't wait for that alien robot A.I. called Brainiac to show up and outdo Luthor in genius intelligence.

>>212712892
>>212713231
Have you taking your meds this morning? Be honest.

>>212717871
Some versions of Lex go with him trying to be the peak of humanity. In this case, Hoult was up for the Superman role himself, so it makes sense that he nearly looks like a mirror of Clark, it just adds to the idea that he feels he should be where Superman is in the world, like he earned this exalted position but then some alien dropped out of the sky and was automatically the most powerful person in the world just by having natural superpowers

>>212712892
>Turned it off
Sure thing, Snyderjeet

>>212718559
he could have been superman?? but they went with a jewish guy??

wtf

>>212718694
Corenswet is good in the role, and has that chiseled but boyish look for Superman.

>>212718730
man, you could probably beat that supersissy up anon

he was good

>>212716564
He's a good actor but has such a punchable face. God tier agent to line him up the roles of Nux, Lex Luthor, and the one dweeb in The Menu.

>>212712726 (OP)
he's inspired me to elevate my hater game

>>212718999
>Lex in the movie was a hater.

This is factually true. But it was done in the LEAST interesting way possible. Because the best most interesting haters are the ones in denial. Especially the ones lying to themselves. Him just coming out and saying it is lame.

>Inb4 EXPECTAIONS SUBVERTED

>>212720244
i disagree, i respect that.

imagine confronting someone acusing them for being a hater and their response is yes

>>212712726 (OP)
jesse eisenberg must feel like a tool after watching his performance
dude rocked it as lex

>>212721346
Eisenberg didn't give a damn. Snyder knew that, and still thought he was a good pick. So Eisenberg wouldn't care how Hoult is doing, he'd just care that signing up for BvS impacted his own career.

>>212721346
>dude rocked it as lex

>Generic villain #9

>Rocked it

Just finished watching the cinema steam of it.
I quite enjoyed it overall.

>>212712726 (OP)
Lex had so many hype aura moments it was insane

>>212720244
Lex is a genius who came up with this whole plan to kill Superman. I support his wholehearted recognition that he is a hater. It's not often that we get a villain who is both genius and actually in touch with his own emotions, and his emotions being murderous and jealous just makes it even more interesting imo.

And "I hate you because I want to prove to myself that I as a human can take down even the most unstoppable threat" is a badass reason

>>212721428
Have you ever heard the story about how Eisenberg got cast? He was supposed to be Jimmy Olsen and agreed to it because he thought it would be a cool cameo, but then Matt Damon, Bryan Cranston, Joaquin Phoenix, and whoever else they offered Lex turned down the role, so when Eisenberg was meeting with Snyder about Olsen, he was just like "Hey, how about you play Lex Luthor instead?"

Dead serious. It's that's retarded. Eisenberg was so shit in that movie he single handedly knocked it down a star for me.

>>212712993
That is absolutely not lex luthor. At least BvS makes it clear that it's his fucking son, a whole new fucking character. But lex aint this shit youre saying

>>212713251
You should see what they're saying on Letterboxd anon. They are saying precisely this

>>212722341
Shut up jeet.

>>212722330
Sounds like how Pascal got Reed. Every actor turned it down. They wanted Adam Driver but he’s not “nope”

>>212722384
>using letterboxd for anything other than cataloging the movies you watched

Let me guess, the top rated review is a single sentence iwth someone saying something like "ZAMN I want to eat David Corsnsweats ass!"?

Bidenfags vote against their own economic interests

>>212722300
>This character is interesting because it has no depth.

Not really my preference but hey you do you.

>>212722330
>Eisenberg was so shit in that movie he single handedly knocked it down a star for me.


And yet he still managed to be more interesting than Gunn's two dimensional mustache twirler.

>>212722837
>it has no depth because....uh....it just doesn't ok!

>>212721769
>anon watches hamlet
>comes out of the theatre dissapointed
>its been done he thinks to himself

terrible lex. Better than eisenberg but still awful

>>212723321
no

>>212713231
>>212713322
>>212722384
When normies or leftist say someone is an "incel" they are mostly likely getting them mixed up with the term "chud." While many incels are chuds and many chuds are incels, the terms are not synonymous.

So what is a chud you might ask? Watch this video and it will explain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NytvtzMWTxs

>>212723728
What's the significance of the giant pencil and pencil shaving behind chud? Is this some sort of commentary on the art industry?

>>212723385
You think eisenberg was better?

>>212712892
He didn't expect the russian roulette to end that quickly

>>212712892
>Lex represents the best of what it currently is
What the fuck? Lex Luthor is a fucking supervillain. He absolutely does not represent "the best" of anything, other than being the best evil corporate genius.

>>212723728
I still think rainbow trannys are fucking cancer but this pic is kino.

>>212712892
A1 A1 AAAAAAAAAAAAAA1111111111

>>212723833
NTA but I do. Because at least it was something. This entire Gunn movie was 2 hours of fucking nothing.

>>212712726 (OP)
Lex was great. That Russian Roulette scene and his rant through the computer to Supes near the end was excellent.

>>212712726 (OP)
Nick is severely underrated

>>212724152
Excellent work. Keep it up.

>>212722341
>At least BvS makes it clear that it's his fucking son
You are a retard and don't read comics.
THE Lex Luthor was always Alexander Luthor Jr

>>212724133
then you don't think at all

>>212723833
No.

>>212724321
how come you never actually engage on any topic? it's just cheap excuses and dismissals

>>212712726 (OP)
Im going to say it
I thiught this film was great the dichotomy of lex and superman being so clear cut good vs evil was a refreshing change of pace in modern films.
Finally it can just be a good guy vs a bad guy and the bad guy lost.
He was a great foil and nearly the entire film he was on top. He made lex feel like a threat, not some comic booky “ill get you next time scooby doo!”

>>212724427
>make serious posts about this low iq film in one of the 68 threads we spammed about it
no

>>212724551
We get ot everything has to be hate and death for you, everything has to be dark and gritty and people in pain
we get it
You dont need to say anything

>>212724551
And yet you're in all 68 of em.

>>212724331
Anon I...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Luthor_Jr.

>>212724427
That first reply wasn't me but that other Anon has it right. Exploring the depth and nuances of this movie would be like exploring the depth and nuances of a cup of water. Tap water. Not even mountain spring water.

>>212725162
This is another cheap dismissal.

>>212725307
Why would I talk in depth about something I found shallow and uninteresting. To me the movie was simply a way to pass two hours of time before doing something else. It's not a movie that's meant to be analyzed. You are literally missing the point of what this movie is by trying analyze it. This movie is Netflix. You are not supposed to analyze Netflix movies. You are supposed to keep watching and watch the next one. That is all they are for and all they are meant to do. Keep You watching. Nothing more. That is what this movie is. There's nothing more to it worth talking about.

I don't know dude, why would you sit in a thread for something you think is "shallow and uninteresting" making long excuses for not saying anything about it?

>>212712726 (OP)
I want to see outtakes of him trying to do that rant about Galileo and Einstein cause I can’t imagine how many times he stuttered over himself talking that fast

>>212725524
To shit on non-Snyderchads and brag about how we keep winning. Even when we lose (Rebel Moon) we win.

>>212712892
lol no

they almost Hoult him as Superman

Hoult was almost cast as Superman, much better suited for Lex though

>>212712892
>Turned it off after he just straight up shot a dude.

Did you......just close your eyes?

>That's not Lex, Lex is cerebral.

That's exactly Lex. Lex is a petty bitch. He only killed that guy because he knew Superman didn't want that. Which has always been enough of a motivator for him.

Apologize

>>212725809
>almost Superman, but falling short
Sounds like perfect motivation for an actor playing Lex

>>212725891
Under no circumstances will I even pretend this was anything but a completely shit take on the character. Even for a joke.

>>212720244
the monkey hater farm got me good. That's how I picture the jeets and the IDF

>>212725891
i get what they were going for and it still didnt work. he also looked like a goofball bald.

>>212713287
Same

>>212712726 (OP)
No one talks about how the moral event horizon for this character is stating that he will kill Krypto once he is done with Superman. It is not him killing other people, orchestrating a war and geopolitical disasters to become a dictator of a small country, or putting people he dislikes in his parallel dimension prison. It is stating he will kill Krypto.

>>212725891
Fuck no he was acting like the Riddler

>>212725956
Except it was extremely prescient to the point that a decade later we now have multiple RL Lex Luthors that are far closer to pic rel than Gunn's cartoonish 2 dimensional take. So even if its not exactly the greatest iteration of the character Zacks's take is still far more interesting than the what we got in this latest movie.

>>212726189
No, I'd say it's shooting a random person just for being a fan of Superman.

>>212726265
There is nothing interesting about this version. It's just a twit.

>>212726276
I guarantee more people cared about him stating he will kill Krypto over killing the Indian dude.

>>212720244
I prefer a villain who is actually self-aware...to an extent. You're leaving out that Lex is still deeply self-deluded. Like his repeated profession that he's brains vs Superman's brawn, yet when it comes down to it, his counterattack program with Ultraman is just "beat up Superman better", and it's Superman who figures out Ultraman is operating only by instruction and sics Krypto on the drones, as well as tricks the Engineer into enveloping him completely then uses her as a crash mat to disable her. And in general his plans use constant brute force to achieve their goals.

>>212712726 (OP)
Greatest hater of all time.

>>212726077
>he also looked like a goofball bald.

THIS i will concede. But only this.

>>212726265
lmao nigga shut up

>>212725891
Kino character. Why do people not understand this is his son?

Is this the most pathetic post-credit scene of all time? Everyone knew it wasn't going to happen the moment the movie released.

>>212726265
>it's....so.....PRESICENT
To what?

>>212726189
To be fair, that's not just "no le heckin pupper", it's pointlessly petty and cruel. Same as using his dimensional prison for an ex-gf who wrote a blog about him. So that it's not just Superman who draws his ire, he kicks downward all over the place.

It should have been him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8YCSJpF4g4
More cowbell

>>212726304
>I prefer a villain who is actually self-aware


No such thing in a well written character good or bad. There is always the mask, the face behind the mask and then the truth beneath it all that even the character itself isn't aware of or at the very least in denial of. That is how you get THREE (3) dimensions to a character.

Not lame "self aware" two dimensional characters like in this forgettable movie. Because what you call self aware I call zero depth.

>>212726397
There's that bizarre scene Morbius had. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSZdfsGypXg

>>212726537
You seem to be equating self-aware with "meta awareness", which makes no sense and doesn't even apply to this Lex. As pointed out, Lex is not completely self-aware, most of his actions are deluded. The only aspect he's self-aware about is that he is envious of Superman. He remains in denial about various other aspects of their rivalry.

>>212726981
>He remains in denial about various other aspects of their rivalry.

You are making this up. There is nothing else to the character. You literally said so earlier in the thread and now all of a sudden you are backtracking.

You like this two dimensional character. Own it. Don't lie to yourself and act like there's more to it. (which is more dimensions than this Lex had)

>>212727228
>You literally said so earlier in the thread
No, I did not.

>>212727228
Are you claiming he is not in denial about his supposed status as the last hope for humanity?

>>212712892
you have never read a comic in your life

>>212714241
Coz it could hurt Jeff Bezos's feelings

>>212716416
underrated silliness

>>212727294
see>>212716416

He exposition dumps his true petty motivations in the movie. There aren't some deep unearthed layers for the viewer to unfurl. It' all right there. Noting else to it. Its fucking boring.

>>212727805
In that same rant he outlines himself as the last hope for humanity and presents Superman as an existential threat. While literally having a giant rift that he opened tearing Metropolis in two behind him. Self-delusion and projecting his flaws onto Superman are absolutely baked into this version of Lex. Him having self-awareness that he is envious doesn't cancel that out or mean that he is self-aware across the board.

>>212726494
it shoudl've been IRL Lex

Dang who knew tony stonem would crashout this badly

>>212712726 (OP)
Lex is supposed to look like a chad not some skinny kid who just went through puberty. This is as bad as Snyder's Lex.

>>212728288
>Lex is supposed to look like a chad
Why lmao? He is a scientist.

>>212728288
He's nearly as tall as Superman and face to face with him once they meet. Hoult is not "skinny" in the slightest.

>>212712726 (OP)
Hoult tends to always be solid so that should not be a shock.

>>212712892
Lex once invented a time machine just so he could fuck Superman's mom and tell him that he did.

>villain is literally the pettiest man alive out of sheer seethe
I'm in favor of it. I'm a bit tired of villains that have no connection to the hero at all and their conflict is just a case of "villain does thing independently, hero interferes". Or that the motivation is all one way with the hero having a grudge against the villain purely incidentally. It's refreshing to have the villain be motivated by the hero rather than the other way around.

>>212712892
Jeets don't have a developed human brain. They are at the intellectual level of a feral animal. Any brilliant person knows it's best to just kill them as immediately as possible.

>>212730756
>It's refreshing to have the villain be motivated by the hero rather than the other way around.


w.t.f?? That is literally every superhero story ever in the history of mankind. I swear you people are like barely sentient with some of the shit you put out.

>>212730926
Double reddit spacing and "w.t.f??"? Pretty good bait.

>>212730926
>That is literally every superhero story ever in the history of mankind.
No, it absolutely is not.

>>212730926
Right off the top of my head, Spider-Man 2, Doctor Octopus doesn't give a flying fuck about Spider-Man. He just wants to recreate his experiment, egged on by his amoral robot arms. Spider-Man just interferes with him trying to get funds for it, and even then he gets away and goes back to building his machine..
His big battle with Spider-Man later on is purely a means to an end to fulfill a deal with Harry for the fuel he needs for his experiment.

Or hell, how about....Superman, 1978? Lex in that film is working on an evil real estate scheme to enrich himself, it has nothing to do with Superman.

*seethes*

>>212726315
The best. Louis and Clark lex is underrated. He was great hater

>>212728288
The guy literally mogged superman. Weird casting to have lex tower superman like this.

>>212730926
this isn't even remotely true

>>212712726 (OP)
Nicholas Hoult is a strange one.
He's a solid actor who pulls off the roles he's given but he isn't memorable and never gives a stand-out performance. He hasn't ever done anything to deserve hatred or strong praise and he's in a ridiculous number of co-star roles. For this reason, he wasn't a good choice for Lex Luthor. Lex needs to be played by someone who can give a strong, memorable performance because the bad guy is a major piece of the pie in any superhero movie, maybe even more important than the hero. Think about the biggest and most memorable movies in the genre and they all have a great villain.

>>212713287
Hoult is quite a good actor. Made The Great watchable.

>>212724184
Clean it up janny

>>212726265
Gunn Lex is a heterosexual, charismatic Peter Thiel. Snyder Lex was just a reddit mod

>>212733232
Watch The Great. He must have to go to a physio from carrying that show so hard.

>>212712892
>That's not Lex, Lex is cerebral.
The same Lex that uses a superpowered purple and green power armor? That kind of cerebral Lex?

>>212724808
Yeah, Lex Luthor from another dimension is called Lex Luthor. Please, focus

>>212712726 (OP)
He was so great, it was unreal.

>>212725609
If by winning you mean crying, sure

>>212726368
He's not. And if he was, it would still be shit
>>212726265
There is nothing interesting about that shit

>>212713287
despite shooting that guy, he's not worse than Gene Hackman Lex, who literally double-nuked the US. its just that the script is more painstaking in making it clear how and why he's a bad person.

>>212736058
>my daddy beat my ass so now I'm Epicurus

>>212724152
>rant through the computer
>the climax of your movie
Jesus christ

>>212724495
>finally it can be good guy vs bad guy and the bad guy lost
This is every disney movie child. Have standards

>>212712726 (OP)
gunnpedo lex = soi boi FAGGOT

Snyder Lex is a nihilistic gigachad and it wasn't till I spoke with my friend that has an MA in Religious Studies and PhD in English Literature that I appreciated even more how utterly ingenius the Snyder Lex. Perhaps one of the greatest villains in the history of fiction

>>212712892
>That's not Lex, Lex is cerebral.
Don't agree, the best Lex is Clancy Brown for me and he was a hotheaded bastard. People love All-Star Superman and he was prone to outbursts in that too. Most cerebral Lex I've ever seen in the shows was Young Justice Lex (s1-s2) and he was pretty good but he never reached the highs of Clancy's Lex

>>212735999
It literally says thats his son right there in the Wikipedia anon.....are you paying attention? Like verbatim "is the son of lex luthor"

>>212712726 (OP)
Why does he hate Supersaar so much anyways

>>212712892
Buddy Lex Luthor stole 40 cakes.

I wonder what happens to him going forward. I haven't read comics but watched DCAU so I guess I can see a thing like he does go to prison but he's able to help the heroes out in a big way from some collective threat that he is able to get a pardon in turn and then we get President Luthor, Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, etc.

>>212736311
Jealous that *I* run in elite academic circles and your intellectual betters all have Snyder's movies in their top 10 lists? You're so pathetic. It's getting to the point where 'do you love Snyder's MoS, BvS, and JL?' should be a question to determine if a person gets any leverage of power at all. If 'no' we know what you are, evil and stupid and too stupid to understand you're evil and must be exterminated or enslaved. Snyder made the perfect test for determining who is garbage inferior evil scum and who is superior and smart and beautiful

>>212736364
He’s rich enough to just walk out the front door of the prison after getting sent there, that’s why Supes can never get rid of him in the comics.

>>212736424
>aw shucks buddy i just didn't like all the death and destruction in metropolis at the end, so i don't really like watching man of--
>YOU ARE EVIL AND STUPID AND SHOULD BE GASSED YOU FUCKING SUBHUMAN SIMIAN MONKEY CUNT FAGGGGGOT!
This is reasonable, apparently

>>212736226
Grey nndescript morality is an angsty teen fantasy. At that age standards and rules only exist to be rejected.

>>212736507
>>aw shucks buddy i just didn't like all the death and destruction in metropolis at the end, so i don't really like watching man of--
Yes, because people like that ARE evil through their stupidity. They can't handle REAl and RAW stuff like mass destruction and death, they are worthless spineless cowards that don't want to confront REALITY. They are stupid and stupid = evil. I, naively, once liked people like Robin Williams or Mr Rodger until I realised they likely would not like MoS or BvS, so now I'd shoot them in the head myself if they were still alive and I wouldn't have to face being imprisoned by lesser apes too stupid and evil and cowardly to allow superior people to practice eugenics.

>>212736239
Yeah, buddy. I'm sure that happened

>>212736560
>>212736424
Sure buddy. Keep crying

ENOUGH. Post the definitive Lex stories and we'll fact check your interpretation of Lex, stupid fucking apes.

>>212736643
Luthor by Brian Azzarello.
It's pretty good.

>>212720244
Nah, the greatest haters are the ones that do it out of pure love (hate) for the game (person they seethe about 24/7).

>>212712726 (OP)
/tv/ is an Indian board now

>>212727950
Bozos is the most boring out of the irl billionaires. He is just some cringy dude enjoying his midlife crisis.
On the other hand we have Bill Gates trying to create a new world order, Zuck desperately trying to pretend he is not an awkward lizard looking nerd or Elon being the world's biggest attention whore.

>>212736692
>Brian Azzarello.
Hate that hack

>>212735485
Is that not just down to the other stars being incompetent? He's a good actor, he's just not like say, Mads Mikkelson or Walton Goggins who elevate everything they're in just by their mere presence.

>>212736364
You ask me, it's time for Braniac to finally star in a movie. Braniac shows up, Superman can't defeat him, asks Lex for assistance, Lex betrays him and we finally get the Luthor-Braniac teamup, Superman outsmarts them both and saves the day.

>>212736883
This, there's a reason guys like Green Goblin and Reverse Flash are so popular

>>212714241
Everyone keeps trying to add levels of profoundness to his motivations and why humanity should supposedly turn against Superman. They haven’t figured out that you're supposed to strip all of his 2deep4u masks away with the simple truth that he just hates Superman for not letting him rule the world.

>>212712726 (OP)
DUDE B42 G53 V72 D98 B44

>>212712726 (OP)
He was good in the first half, then just sucks in the second half of the movie

>>212712892
DCAU Lex is the best depiction of that character

>>212712726 (OP)
He was the best part in that mid movie

I can actually buy Hoult's Lex doing this, which therefore makes him the best film version of Lex ever.