Thread 212722829

The king has spoken, Snyder won.

>>212722829 (OP)
Post the full review DAMMIT

What the fuck is his problem
Why is he like this with everything

>>212722829 (OP)
80% of his reviews are never about the movie. He sucks.

He always hits the target. Snyderjeets exist cos his pretensions still aim for sth grand, some spectacle that transcends itself even if often defeated by overreaching its grasp. Gunn aspires to nothing, except in yapping to control the crowd (like an MC hypeman.)

>>212722877
correct and unafraid to go against the grain?
It's called bravery, integrity, being based.

>>212722829 (OP)
The most predictable contrarian “”””””legitimate”””””” piece of shit critic in the business. Of course he hates the good Superman movie and loves the terrible ones. What else is new with this complete and utter troll of a human?

>>212722877
I wouldn’t be surprised if he reveals on his deathbed that has been one long social experiment in extreme contrarianism, like those people who made bs social science papers just to see if they could get them published

>>212722877
He's a snyder fan so he doesn't hate everything

>>212722999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw_NtyapzX0

That's crazy if superman 2025 is the best one

>>212722999
how's gunn better than donner in optimism + hope?

>>212722877
>>212722958
>>212722999
>>212723013

>>212723121
it actually is the point of the movie instead of stopping a real estate scam or whatever

>>212722829 (OP)
is man of steel actually good?

>>212722877
He's a gay nigger movie critic. Everything he writes is a lie. He is playing a character. Of course the retards on this board have taken him seriously for years.

>>212723206
Christopher Nolan recommended Zack Snyder for the gig and it has excellent casting and even better music by Hans Zimmer. Take a guess.

>all these contrarians on 4chan love this retarded faggot nigger who's also a contrarian
>can't handle it when other people go against their perceived mainstream opinion of /tv/ (loving armond the niggerfag white) and hate this gay nigger i.e. being contrarian in their deluded minds
Ironic

>>212723233
>having a hostile meltdown because you encounter someone who doesn't parrot consensus opinions
you're subhuman

>>212723206
Goyer and Nolan knocked it out of the park. Snyder had nothing to do with it.

>>212723296
What the fuck are you talking about

Armond White might be one of the longest lasting traditions on /tv/
And he still makes people seethe after all these years

>>212723175
So the optimism is the message, not in the actual execution. the greater message is infused in everything that's done, not a statement delivered by the plot.

>>212723296
Found this on your Reddit profile.

>>212723359
No u didnt, liar

His review is hilarious and petty much why people hate Snyder faggots. They are more pretentious than Nolan faggots. I imagine there is a big overlap on the Ven diagram
https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/07/superman-under-the-gunn/amp/

>>212723233
Gays can be honest & not go along wit the mindless crowd. He is one.

>>212723320
He parrots contrarian opinions like clockwork. He always needs 3 to 5 years to review a new movie (to see what the consensus is and to go against the grain). NPC behavior and you're even dumber for liking his inane drivel.

>>212722877
you mean being right?

>>212723396
The same """"people"""" that hate Zack Snyder's movies shit and pissed themselves and praised it as the second coming of Christ when this came out.

>>212722829 (OP)
Gunnsisters….. our response?

>>212723353
He is the mainstream according to idiots on /tv/ and most people like you love him. Ironic how you're so easily triggered when people don't agree with this consensus and act contrarian.

>>212722829 (OP)
Accurate take unironically

>>212723439
all the costumes look ridic fake + heavy

>>212723359
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>212723480
Found this too.

>>212722829 (OP)
Nolan/Goyer won. Snyder didn't make MoS.

>>212723439
No they didn’t. MOS was ridiculed mercilessly to point even Snyder got butthurt about it.

>>212723029
>Snyder/White fan can't read
No surprise there, he never said that white doesn't like anything, retard. Learn to read

>>212723531
Retard.

>>212723500
You're a fan of a gay nigger, I unfortunately can't post pics of you getting gaped by niggerfags here.

>>212723580
Go ahead you seething MCUck faggot. No one's stopping you.

>>212723272
Absolutely based. Contrast with gunns milquetoast, "safe", status quo answers. Trailblazing Snyder pwns peodgunn

>>212723631
You could post your nigger gangbangs. Go ahead, niggerlover. Nkgger

>>212723353
Even the goat Ebert was a fan
>Armond White and Roger Ebert had a notable public exchange, with Ebert initially defending White as an "intelligent critic and a passionate writer" but also calling him a "smart and knowing [...] troll".

>>212723206
it's boring

>>212722829 (OP)
>National Review
>Snydercel

>>212723656
You seem upset.

>>212723165
fuckers have made their own site such an unusable shithole that they are now running over here with their bullshit

>>212722829 (OP)
>Named White
>Isn't White
Why does this happen?

>>212722829 (OP)
Read the whole review. Holy shit this guy is my new favorite critic.

>>212723694
>using a screenshot that completely cuts-off the subtitles that are the entire punch-line of the image
What kind of idiot saved an image like this and what kind of idiot reposted it?

>>212722877
Professional troll who doesn't believe a single word of what he writes.

>>212723029
If Snyder was popular, he would hate him.

>>212723694
>stalker man walking around quipping to himself for 2 and half hours
kino

>>212723828
Wait until you hear about this guy named Jack Black.

There's even this one guy named John Hurt... I've seen him, and he isn't even injured at all.

>>212723885
The screenshot contains both punchlines you idiot
>I'm a stalker bro, not a talker
>Are we in the zone yet? It definitely feels pretty zone-ish in here!

Notice his review always comes AFTER the general consensus has formed among critics. When have you seen him release a review first?

>>212723914
William Hurt atleast fulfilled his name

Ebert in 2012 has this to say about Armond. Still holds up
>More to the point is White’s reputation as a critic who “doesn’t like anything.” This is not true. It would be more accurate to say he dislikes a great many films approved of by fanboys. The last Tomatoes lynch mob raised against him was for his dislike of “Star Trek.” Man, did they hate him for that! You may be surprised to learn that White agrees (or, for that matter, disagrees) with the TomatoMeter exactly 50% of the time. Although I agree that the Meter is no gauge of a critic’s quality, it looks to me like White is the epitome of the ideal critic, positioned smack dab in the middle of the scale.

>>212723943
I noticed his reviews always come out after I jerk off

He must be waiting for me to finish

woah

>>212723206
it's fine
it's not bad but it takes itself really seriously with a lot of ham-fisted religious symbolism and the sort of stylistic choices you would expect from snyder. There are a few well known moments where the script is a bit weird but I think that's overstated. Henry cavill is probably at his best here, his superman has a fair bit of depth and character development, presenting an emotionally complex superman origin story, where he struggles with his split identity as both a kryptonian and an american, his powers and his inherent responsibility to help people, and the fear of how humanity will react to his existence.
A lot of the runtime is taken up with his own self-discovery, and so the conflict with zod is a bit generic and doesn't have a lot of time to fully develop. The film at least doesn't make the common mistake of stuffing too many villain in it, it's just zod arriving to kill everyone. The fight scenes are good, and feel about as realistic and gritty as you could get out of a superman story. But ultimately zod isn't a very interesting character even though michael shannon does the best he can with it.
so it's definitely an imperfect movie, but it's interesting because it at least tries to be thoughtful and genuine even if it misses the mark in some cases. I think it achieves the goal of making superman look "real"; he's a person not a cartoon character. It feels like the closest thing you can get to a realistic superman. For better or for worse, gunn's superman is very much just a cartoon, he's a guy with superpowers who wants to save people and is generally just a nice guy, though maybe a bit stupid. Man of steel is at least an attempt to elevate the character beyond that.

>>212723206
It's a 6/10

>>212723998
Ebert is also a retard. I still challenge White to go to a preview screening of any given movie and a write a review in advance and publish it when the embargo lifts. He'll never do it. He's too much of a niggerfag (i.e. contrarian) for that.

>We may never know Zack Snyder’s master plan for advancing the Superman saga since his Man of Steel opus (The Godfather of superhero movies) was disrupted by studio executives at Warner Bros. who insisted on a comic book series that emulated Christopher Nolan’s nihilistic but more profitable Batman franchise. They wanted darkness, not Snyder’s seriousness. But “dark” means trivial in Millennial film culture, and now, with James Gunn’s new Superman, Warner has gotten the inconsequential movie it always desired.

>Snyder took up the Superman comic book myth then enhanced its meaning as American cultural heritage with classical, spiritual roots. This grand vision opposes fanboy frivolity, which is the basis of Gunn’s commercialized version. His Superman (portrayed by David Corenswet) is introduced as a humiliated, known quantity. He has already lost a battle, slammed into the pavement of Metropolis, and is bloody, wounded, and wheezing.

>Gunn’s point is to replace myth and destroy all faith. This Superman movie is the most cynical imaginable. It doesn’t just go against the original Joe Shuster–Jerry Siegel comic book ubermensch that Snyder understood; it reworks a figure for the dystopian millennium and Hollywood resistance.

>>212723943
Never. He even talks about other critics and their reviews about the same movie in that review. His "reviews" are just ramblings of a confused contrarian niggerfag.

>>212724292
I wish Snyder got to do Man of Steel 2 before BvS as planned. Hell, he even wanted Ben Affleck to do his standalone Batman movie before BvS too. We were so close to greatness and it was ruined by the same people who burned bridges with Christopher Nolan and Peter Jackson.

Why do these incompetent retards stay in power?

>>212723618
Heard you the first time, samefag

>>212724292
>There’s no denying that Guardians of the Galaxy director Gunn knows the market he panders to when he emasculates Corenswet’s average all-American masculinity — the essence of the Superman concept — then extracts any romance from Superman’s relationship with reporter Lois Lane (Rachel Brosnahan is grating throughout their meant-to-be-flirty spats). Lacking Snyder’s erotic pairing of Henry Cavill and Amy Adams, Gunn degrades the humanity of these characters. He victimizes Superman (horribly so in a poorly judged “Pocket Universe” prison sequence featuring nightmarish degradation) and then triggers audience revulsion through evil genius Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult), whose key-punch video game tropes remotely attack a man of virtual invulnerability rather than a man of steel. Luthor combats Superman through a combination of science and technology — injecting nanobot GPS trackers into Superman’s bloodstream — using methods that recall the hideous Covid manipulation.
This guy is fucking hilarious

>>212724292

damn

>>212724397
It's because Snyder's MOS flopped. He's such a bad director that he couldn't make a movie about superman hugely successful during the boom of capeslop while every normalfag went to every single capeshit movie. Impressive how bad Snyder is

>>212723353
Best critic of all time

>>212724292
Nailed it

>>212724506
It's so funny that Aquaman ended up being DC's biggest movie

>>212722999
Every movie is political for him, he's smart like that.

>>212724540
Zack Snyder's Aquaman*
(It's fair to give him credit since he reinvented the character)

>>212722877
he's gay so he saw all the hot women in the movie and was instantly repulsed

>>212724506
The Flash being such a failure was probably more harmful to Warner than Batman v Superman and Justice League

>>212724506
>>212724540
Are we still pretending that all DCU movies were made by Snyder or something? Pathetically hilarious.

>>212724450
King shit

>>212724540
aquaman was visually really good

>>212722877
He only gives good reviews to gay French movies about faggots and trannies

>>212724397
Maybe you Snyder faggots should’ve kept your masterpiece from having the 9th biggest drop off for a capeshit movie and you would’ve gotten MOS 2

>>212722829 (OP)
Armond White is right.

>>212724599
You're not willing to attribute Aquaman to Zack Snyder when he reinvented the character and personally casted Jason Momoa?

Everyone was making fun of the prospect of an Aquaman movie ten years ago before BvS.
>>212724655
Still made a fuckload of money at the box office, and that's not counting product placement and home video
>Man of Steel is Already Profitable, Thanks to $160 Million in Product Placements
>"Man of Steel" has a budget of about $225 million. And while Warner Bros will likely have no trouble getting that money back from ticket sales, it turns out that it has already recouped almost 3/4 of it. According to AdvertisingAge, "Man of Steel" was able to accumulate over 100 global promotional partners, which resulted in $160 million in product placement.
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni55284309/

>>212724506
Aquaman which had nothing in common with Snyder's films and was in fact most similar to the MCU, out of all the DCEU.

Also ignoring of course that the shift away from Snyder as vague unofficial head of the DCEU to the new committee headed by Geoff Johns did not happen in 2019 with the release of Shazam, it happened in 2016, right after the release of BvS. So you can snip off those three movies after BvS
Also very odd that you erased Justice League 2017 entirely from existence in your chart despite it coming out a year BEFORE Aquaman which you've decided is a "Snyder film" despite him having nothing to do with it.

>>212722877
He's not? Oh right, you only watch critikal and capeshit so you've never seen his opinions on real film.

>>212724567
>>212724768
This is desperate even for you.

>>212724768
So that's why mos2 was never made, which was the plan by the way, retard. Mos 1 was too successful. lmao

>>212724450
>Luthor combats Superman through a combination of science and technology — injecting nanobot GPS trackers into Superman’s bloodstream — using methods that recall the hideous Covid manipulation.
Mr. Terrific tracked Superman with nanobots in his bloodstream ("I do this to everyone"), and Luthor used The Engineer (Woman who is comprised of nanites) to try and suffocate Clark by filling his lungs with said nanites. Don't really care too much about the review, but he's conflating two different characters for a weird 'le covid' thing.

>>212724768
And yet, it was a big disappointment to WB because they had expected a TDK reception, and had aggressively marketed the film in that regard, putting Nolan's name all over it. So much so that we never got Man of Steel 2, and instead they pivoted to Batman v Superman and copying the MCU's format of a shared universe.

>>212722980
Bingo

>>212724849
Are you suggesting that Armond White is being dishonest in his film reviews to make an unrelated point about contemporary politics

>>212724292
Dr Manhattan would agree with Armond White.

>>212724849
That's what White does. He just rambles out a load of drivel that's the opposite of whatever the general consensus is, throws in some political low hanging fruit for points, and submits it. He doesn't believe a word of what he writes.

>>212724829
>So that's why mos2 was never made, which was the plan by the way, retard. Mos 1 was too successful. lmao
Again, you're defending the people who torched their relationship with Peter Jackson by claiming LOTR was unprofitable and their relationship with Christopher Nolan by refusing a theatrical release for Tenet.

WB leadership being consistent fuck ups is no secret.

>>212722980
Snyderjeets exist because they want to feel special and so attach themselves to the "less popular alternative" of the popular thing. Like Nintendo fans with the Gamecube.

>>212722829 (OP)
That guy is like 4chan personified. His whole "thing" is being a contrarian instigator. He stirs shit.
And now you guys are taking it as more evidence that you "won".

All of this Superman tribalism is really immature. Do any of you really respect yourselves that this is your hobby for the last month and the next?

>>212723272
That would be fine if he wasn't such a deeply stupid person who doesn't understand characters created for small children.

>>212724876
I've seen the man discussed on /tv/ for ages, but I've never really paid attention to his reviews. People will take it at face value, though.

>>212724938
yeah, and put a meathead like Snyder in charge of their MCU follow, that was pretty boneheaded, as they realized quickly when they replaced him in mid 2016, not that their replacement was any less unsuited

>>212722985
This is part of the joke too. At least you get it. Some people would take his reviews and your comment sincerely.

>>212722829 (OP)
Yes, we are in a culture war. A psychological war; a war of ideas; a magical war.

Bringing ideas to blossom on the big screen means to take creative living thoughts formed in the mind (egregores) and manifest them on screen, spreading that life to the minds of others.

While Snyder and Terrio sought to elevate and resonate, to remind the world of the higher ideals that are worth fighting for. Why did Snyder go so dark? Because the heroes were literally going to battle against the forces of evil. They mourn at the fragility of life and bleed so that beauty can persist another day.

Gunn's glib sociopathy seeks to descend and humiliate. Tearing down our idols and launching a relentless campaign of self-insistent lies.

Gunn's slop represents of mockery of real creative energies, tedious cringe that empties the soul as well as the mind. It stands for nothing, teaches no lessons, and serves no higher purpose.

Additionally, the blatant thievery of the most of the plot points from MoS and BvS, especially from a Marvel-ite like Gunn, serves to further reinforce the idea that Superman (2025) is a cultural hit job and an attempt to re-write, replace, and erase what came before.

We ARE in a culture war; a war of the mind, of creativity, and of magic. And the slop and its slop-makers are the opponents.

>>212724961
>he doesn't understand superman and batman!!!11
Literal retard take. Every possible variation of Superman and Batman already exists. He based his Superman off Injustice/TDKR and his Batman off The Dark Knight Returns.

>>212722829 (OP)
>name is Armond White
>is black
dude is contrarian from birth

>>212724971
/tv/ liked him in the beginning because he ripped Black Panther apart so they thought he was based.

>>212724971
Because the people that pretend to be big fans of his don't actually read his reviews, they just ooh and aah at random confrontational sounding greentext excerpts, and declare how you just don't GET IT

>>212724974
>yeah, and put a meathead like Snyder in charge of their MCU follow
Recommended by Christopher Nolan you dumb cunt.

>>212725009
Injustice is garbage written by idiots, and he features almost nothing of the actual context of TDKR

>>212725009
By skipping the iconic origin story tells me he doesn’t understand Superman.

>>212725039
Am I supposed to pretend Nolan is infallible?
Also, Nolan did not recommend him for head of a cinematic universe franchise, you are conflating unrelated things.

>>212725009
>He based his Superman off Injustice/TDKR and his Batman off The Dark Knight Returns.
it kind of sounds like he read exactly one single comic book, anon

>>212725021
That’s exactly what you’re doing.

>>212724907
It's not about his belief, but how convincing he argues his case. Purity test is tribalism

>>212725100
By pointing out actual incorrect claims presented in his review?

>>212722829 (OP)
Unironically based. Fellow SnyderChad.

>>212725042
>injustice
is kino written by idiots thobeit.

>>212725013
My favorite thing is his profile pic is like a smarmy brainy thug. But all other pix are of an effete weasel who's close to moving into assisted living.

>>212723206
8/10. The best fight scenes in capeshit history.

>>212725114
>I'm convinced by incoherent rambling that he doesn't believe a word of

>>212725009
Okay that proves my point then.

>>212725182
kek
I had never actually seen another photo of him apart from his profile picture

>>212724292
Holy fucking based. Seething nerds BTFO.

>>212724949
I know the world is delivering you a Superflop right now but it's going to be okay. This too shall pass.

>>212725076
Seethe more.

>>212725039
Being recommended as a director does not mean you are a good fit for creative head of a franchise.

>>212724292
>has gotten

>H-Ha they didn't make MoS2!
Every retard knows WB wanted to catch up with Marvel as fast as possible after 2012.

>>212725342
Seethe more.

sure is samefag in here

>>212722999
>the good Superman movie
oh, are we pretending the Gunn Superman is good now?

so do Snyderfans also agree with Armond that BvS was a very homoerotic film

>>212725702
I don't need to pretend.

>>212725886
they've never actually read his reviews

>>212725912
Indeed Gunnkek.

>>212725333
Trips of truth.

>>212725930
Wow, console wars, amazing.

>>212723828
I honestly think slave owners named their slaves White for the lols. Same with “Coleman” which is a common black last name

>>212725003
It's true.

>>212725415
Good thing he wasn't. He was just making a five movie arc, one and done. Literally ends with the death of Batman and a reboot.

idk about any of that gay shit
Snyder tried to portray an imperfect Superman and Gunn’s Superman tried to portray a punk rocker with flowers in her hair
second one is much safer for boomers who cannot handle their 90 year old hero having flaws beyond kryptonite

>>212722877
As a young man he found out the only time people pay any attention to him was when he was being a contrarian and he made a career of it. Still more admirable than the local jeets because at least it's a career.

>>212723024
>a warner bros employee was paid to make this

>>212725021
>t. guy who just didn’t get it

>>212726689
>implying Warner Bros wanted BvS to succeed
They sabotaged it. WB leadership does not represent their shareholders.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/04/chris-terrio-justice-league-batman-v-superman

>>212722985
Actually that thing everyone likes is bad

>>212726779
my apologies I assumed your image was referring to 2025 superman because I didn't feel like reading it

>>212724567
lol, you can't be serious.

>>212724655
I remember seeing it and spreading negative word of mouth. It was awful. I was so disappointed. I warned everyone not to go spend money on it.
That's what happens. Drop off happens when the movie is shitty.
And now they're pretending that the new movie has already bombed. which it hasn't and won't probably.

>>212724941
Yes. It's like that with a lot of things. Conspiracy theory believers are the same way. It's not that they actually believe the bullshit, it's that they want to be in on some secret information and feel involved, like they know what others do not. In that hope to achieve it they will adopt beliefs they normally would reject because it allows them that fantasy.

But you nailed it: They want to feel special.
If everyone likes the thing, you get that special feeling when you support the 'underdog'. You're a big rebel. Even if the thing SUCKS, like Snyder movies. LOL

>>212725003
>seeks to descend

That doesn't work.

>>212725384
Great retort. lol

>>212726779
This image is complete bullshit. Snyder only had unofficial creative control of the DCEU for one film, BvS. Man of Steel was not made as part of the DCEU, it was established afterward.

Warner Bros established an official head of the DCEU and creative team in a restructuring in summer 2016 after the bad reception of BvS, with Geoff Johns in charge. So your image's "Snyder portion" should end right after the Batman portion. You also completely erased Justice League 2017 from existence despite it coming between Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

Also, the spacing of those bars makes no sense. Somehow the distance between 169 and 168 is the same distance as 668 to 746.

>>212724540
vinnie chase knew this

>>212727061
The bias is evident, yes. They REALLY care a lot about all this nonsense. I can't imagine what kinds of lives they have outside of this anti-Gunn movement they feel is so fucking important.
I mean, it's over. Snyder moved on and works on entirely different movies. They don't support those or care about him as a director. It's just DC comic movies and Snyder together. And that is done.

>>212722829 (OP)
Grovel, Gunniggers. The White has spoken and you shall kneel.

>>212722829 (OP)
Lmao this retard doesn't understand how to take Armond reviews.

If he says it's shit, that means it's good. If he says it's good, that means it's shit

>>212727061
The attempt to include Aquaman as part of "Snyder's era" (somehow coming nearly two years after he was removed from JL) when it's a complete repudiation of Snyder's style and tone and the most in-line with the MCU style of breezy blockbuster is especially funny.

I wish someone loved me as much as Armond White loves Zack Snyder

>>212724292
Is this another review about man of steel? What is this stupid nigger faggot doing?

>>212727061
Snyder invented superman, batman and wonder woman, jeet

>>212722829 (OP)
>snyder sought to elevate
weird way to say fanfiction

>>212727244
It's Snyder's whether you want it or not, fag. You can't pick and choose. Aquaman was cast by Gunn and James Wan was chosen by him him to direct.

>>212728111
Goyer and Nolan wrote, produced and lead the movie. Snyder didn't do jack shit.
Armond isn't just a contrarian hack but also an idiot who knows nothing about a movie that he allegedly loves.

>>212723353
Dunkey made him popular

>>212728152
just goes to show how retarded snyderfags are

>>212728140
There you have it everyone. Thank you James Gunn or Sean Gunn, whichever one was meant, for giving us the fun and entertaining Aquaman (2018).

Love this nigga. Doesn't miss

>>212728140
>You can't pick and choose.
Then why did you erase the existence of Justice League 2017? That came a year before Aquaman. It is Snyder's. That's how it works after all. He cast the characters, therefore the film belongs to him.

>>212725494
go away esl-kun

>>212722829 (OP)
BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASED

>>212722829 (OP)
>>212722877
can anyone edit this tweet into the monkey writting scene in the movie?

Is he really gay or is that just part of the persona?

>>212724949
If the movie was successful you’d have a point but it made less than Snyder’s Man of Steel and flopped OS so nobody can do anything but seethe at Armond’s words.

>>212723500
>MCU boomers also are devout followers of Christ

What does this mean for Snyderbros?

>>212723828
he's just that much of a contrarian