Thread 212739713

>Cavill kills Zod to save a family and feels awful about it
>BOOOOOOOO MAN OF MURDER
>Corenswet kills Ultraman, a clone that's only evil because it was forced into it by Luthor, then quips 10 seconds later
>YAY WHOLESOME SUPERMAN IS BACK

MCU fans have ruined comic book movies.

It was a mindless clone with no emotion whatsoever.

Imagine caring about a clone lmao

>>212739713 (OP)
That clone survived and is coming back as bizarro

>>212740047
Lmao you ain't seeing anything gunn related after supergirl

he crushed israel. can't get more wholesome and heroic than that

>>212739713 (OP)
Lol capeshit. The Flash is better anyways

>>212740047
>That clone survived
Proofs?

>Cavill kills millions of people in buildings
>nooooo, not this one family!!!!
lol

>>212740141
The sequel will prove it when it releases

>>212739713 (OP)
>doesn't catch the oil tanker
>just lets it bulldoze through half a building before blowing three city blocks to hell
>B-B-B-B-BUT LOOK, BRO! HE PROTECTED THIS ONE FAMILY OUT OF THOUSANDS HE ACTIVELY HELPED KILL! HE'S TOTALLY NOT A SOCIOPATH!
Give it a rest, man.

>>212740221
>The sequel
>releases

>>212740222
It was his first battle. Gunn's Superman has been active for 3 years would rather spend time arguing with his gf than stopping a giant monster ravaging Metropolis.

>>212740294
>currently on track to be the second highest grossing movie of the summer
>new titles already released and in pre-production
>thinking this won't get a sequel
good morning and such.

>>212739713 (OP)
>Corenswet kills Ultraman
Snyderfags are so fucking retarded. Ultraman didn't die, he got sucked into another universe where he's going to become Bizarro.

>>212739824
>>212740036
Hey, Remember when Zod's hand was pulverized by Superman and then he was thrown 100 feet away into an ice wall, undoubtedly suffering a broken back and broken ribs, only to fall hundreds of feet to his doom? See Picrel

>>212740222
>>212740149
Dumb Ass speed watcher, Remember earlier in the Dining eatery, Faeora kicked his ass although being weaker.
Zod was fastly approaching his power level, Remember when he demonstrated flight? Well, had Superman worried about A few casualties Zod would have taken the opportunity to snap his neck!!! Then he would have killed 8.6 Billion people!!!

>>212740361
>on track to make less than MoS domestically even unadjusted for inflation
>absolutely getting destroyed in international markets except India lmao
>next two projects are guaranteed bombs (Supergirl and Clayface)

There will be no solo Superman 2. Accept it.

>>212739713 (OP)
Correnswet Superman killed no one in the movie
>bbut the raptors
All shown alive when they fall down, he only destroyed their flying
>>bbut ultraman
He didnt kill him, a bus fell on him

>>212740349
>It was his first battle
That would make no difference if his adolescent/adult years had been spent actually teaching him goodness instead of how to hide and brood like a bitch. And if it's not learned from Johnathan, then that's what his visit to the fortress of solitude is meant to do. But I guess all that
>be the best of them
shit just went in one ear and right back out.

>>212740404
Okay jeet, show me where exactly in the movie it's said that black hole leads to some retarded cube world instead just atomizing everything that gets passed the event horizon.

>>212740446
Retarded phoneposting tranny.

>>212740349
Justice Gang can do it on their oen handling the demon, also it showed the mcu complaint of "why dont.other heroes show up" well, they do here

This film adresses so many complaints

>>212740477
>He didnt kill him, a bus fell on him
A bus Superman swung Ultraman into.

>>212740457
>>on track to make less than MoS domestically even unadjusted for inflation
>absolutely getting destroyed in international markets except India lmao
lol saar, you are like two days behind. Cope and seethe.

>>212740361
if man of steel didnt get a sequel then this shit isnt getting a sequel after supergirl and clayface

>>212739713 (OP)
>Clark, let kids die because the government is inconvenient.
>That being said, if you're gonna save people, make sure you have poontang on the side.
>Because that's the only thing worth living for.
Very heroic Pa Kent, thanks.

>>212740512
The Justice Gang could have died or failed to prevent civilian casualties without Superman. This is absolutely out of character for Clark and you know it.

Clones don't have souls.

>>212740531
>jeet shills pretending they don't love this film

Lmaoing at you, Rakesh.

>>212740457
>There will be no solo Superman 2. Accept it.
ok so when you are yet again wrong for the thousandth time in a row, what exactly will the talking point be? I remember you Snyderfags saying this after Birds of Prey, then after The Flash, then after The Batman...

You've actually been saying there will never be another Superman movie for over a decade lol

>>212740477
But Muh Reeve saves Kitties from Trees Killed Zod after turning his bones in his hand, probably muscles and tissue too, into mince meat. He tossed homes into a wall and then smirked as he fell to his death. And No Richard Donner's Cop out isn't Canon because he was Fired.

>>212740535
It got two sequels you fucking retard.

>>212739713 (OP)
>>Cavill kills Zod to save a family and feels awful about it
Yeah, this was very stupid after Superman had just killed thousands of people without a second thought while fighting Zod.

>>212740576
I'm not a Snyder fan. I hated BvS and JL. The fact is that MoS outperformed Supersaar and it didn't get a direct solo sequel. Even James Gunn hinted that there won't be a solo Superman 2.

>>212740575
Wrong post, bud. I'm agreeing with you.

>>212740606
Show me these dead people, jeet.

>>212740488
Did you watch the movie? Did you see all the cubes and geometric shapes in Luthor's prison dimension and around the dimensional rift when it was destroying Metropolis?

>>212740597
No it didn't

>>212740611
>MoS outperformed Supersaar
Its still in theaters, bud. Its on track to outperform MoS in a week.
>James Gunn hinted that there won't be a solo Superman 2.
no he didn't you lying fucking tard. Good morning do not redeem that credit card.

>>212740485
Bullshit, you retarded disingenuous moron! These were War Aliens whose power was adapting to earth. And Once their powers adapted they'd kill him! Faora who wasn't as strong as him whipped his ass due to him being distracted! You disingenuous bastards!!!!

>>212740663
BvS is the direct sequel, zoom zoom. JL is the third in the trilogy.

>>212740625
Sorry, I'm Indian village boy. English reading is hard.

>>212740637
Get to work clearing the rubble, you'll find them.

>>212740665
>Its still in theaters, bud. Its on track to outperform MoS in a week.
Maybe in your home country of India. It's tanking hard everywhere else. MoS had a better domestic opening unadjusted for inflation.

>no he didn't you lying fucking tard.
Retarded little brownoid.

>>212740696
No its not you nincompoop!! The sequel would have had Metallo and Brainiac!!!! Warner Executives saw Avengers box office and went ape shit!
They tossed Goyer Nolan script and hired Argo Writer who wasn't a comic fan!!

>>212740637
I can't. Their remains were grounded into mince meat after Superman was done with them.

>>212740764
Lol literally where is it "tanking"?
>ha look at this vague tweet (while he simultaneously is working on a script for the sequel) this means he's not doing the needful saar!
kek fuck off.

>>212740763
Oh okay, so how many people died in Superzoomer when Lex literally split the city in half?

>>212740763
Yes because Zod said, Hey, Man, Go Save humans while I don't try to kill you and then Commit Genocide!

>>212740783
Google.com/BVS, go to wikipedia...
>Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, the sequel to Man of Steel...

>>212740800
>Lol literally where is it "tanking"?
Europe and Asia, aka the biggest non-US markets.

>ha look at this vague tweet
There's nothing vague about it, jeet. Take some more English lessons and you'll get it.

>>212740814
Literally thirty seconds later there's a scene where they mention the commercial district of that city was already evacuated when the rift started to split outside the city.

Put your phone down saar

>>212740862
>i-i-its tanking because I said so wahhhh!
>he's not making a sequel because...WELL BECAUSE HE JUST ISN'T OK!!?
go cry some more. I'll be here in a week or two when it just skims under a bil.

>>212740696
how is a direct sequel if they changed the whole plot to make it a batman film.

>>212740865
>millions of people evacuated in 5 minutes
Suuuuure, Gurpreet, sure.

>>212740902
Its literally a fucking week after the events of MoS are you a child or mentally handicapped in some way? Do you know how movies work?

>>212740833
You're a dumb ass!! I was there, you incorrigible ding bat! I was there BEFORE THERE WAS A BVS!!!!
We knew of their intent before MOS box office finished its initial run!!!

>>212740913
That's literally what the movie says, yes.

>>212740901
>>i-i-its tanking because I said so wahhhh!
No, it's taking because nobody is seeing it lmao.

>>212740924
Are you 5 years old? Is this bait? Am I being baited?

>>212740940
That's cool sperg, BvS is still the direct sequel to MoS.

>>212740924
Damn you typed that fast, you are malding as fuck

>>212740955
Nobody thinks it's tanking. Not a single person argues this who isn't baiting.

>>212740575
Wait is the new superman indian? I thought he looked a little strange but I couldn't place the phenotype.

>>212740989
I accept your concession? Idk what you want from me I'm just taking a shit and phoneposting.

>>212740999
>Nobody thinks it's tanking.

>>212740973
I concede that you're an insufferable MONG!! Talking to you is not only a waste of time but you've somehow lowered my intelligence!!!!

>>212741022
Worse, a jew.

>>212740924
It didn't literally have 2 in the title so it didn't count I guess

>>212741042
>washed up eceleb
lol

>>212741036
Accept you balding fat failure of a life first

>>212741073
So what's with all the saar posting and the india shilling I've seen with this movie? Where is it coming from?

>>212741042
Lol oh no! A worthless literal who YouTube "celeb" said so?? Well I'm cooked!

>>212741148
>says nobody thinks it's flopping
>NO THIS SUPERMAN NERD WITH 3 MILLION FOLLOWERS DOESN'T COUNT

>>212741157
I'm sorry you are this upset that you googled BvS?

>>212741185
The shill narrative is that indians hate the new Superman because they love Snyder, even though it's breaking every record in India. It's just retarded. They'll be gone in a week.

>>212741218
I should have said "nobody that matters" is that better, saar?

>>212741248
>this guy that influences 3 million people doesn't matter
t. some random shitskin on 4chan

>>212741278
Lol bud, 3 mil subs after as long a time as this idiot has been on that platform is abysmal

>>212741333
Giga cope.

>>212741337
Lol your cope is that you have no actual numbers to back up your autistic crying over imagining this movie is a flop, it's rounding near 600 mil and it's only been in theaters for a few days lol you have to be brain rotted to think this is flopping.

>>212739824
Opposed to a mindless squirrel with no emotions whatsoever? Kek. The cope

>>212740913
Call it a cop-out, but that's what they said.

>>212740512
Superman would never leave a monster to attack a city, not help his friends, to fight with his gf. Thats insane and I'm surprised no one is bringing this up more

>>212740149
Snydersimps can say stuff like the city was evacuated etc. and I personally don't hate the concept of being killed but what faggot snydersimps cannot defend to me is that within MoS, Clark 1) NEVER has any guilt or self reflecting over the fact it was his dumbass that brought the fight away from farmland and into Smallvile. It was HIM, not Zod being a cunt and going for the town, and 2) his utter nonreaction to see the devastation of downtown Metropolis. It is 9/11 on steroids and he is so cavalier rather than filled with rage and sorrow over what the remnants of his species did.

>>212741647
Maybe you should watch the movie? That's not exactly what happens.

>>212741896
>not exactly what happens
Then why does he stay behind and say "they got it" just so he can talk with his gf? If superman is selfless he would not put his personal affairs over helping his literal fucking home.

>>212740972
How is telling you the events of the direct sequel, "bait"?

>>212741752
>never had any guilt
It's in BvS, literally the following up of the finale. He even calls his mom in the middle of the night because he cant handle the stress of being superman. And she answers and comforts him. Kek. None of that in gunnslop. He even CHOOSES to HIKE, when he can fly, up a death valley mountain peaks JUST to reflect on everything, including his father. Which he finds at the peak. Whether its a memory of spirit is open for interpretation.

Again, NONE of that shit in gunnslop

>>212742003
So again, you should watch the movie...

He was out there fighting the thing, but they've fought it dozens of times and the Justice Gang tell him to leave because they got it. It's routine. The message isn't "Superman doesn't care", unless you can't into understanding the movie you are watching, it's "he's so selfless that he would go help but the Justice Gang doesn't need him half the time" and he gets a break.

This is capeshit.

>>212741544
>mindless squirrel with no emotions whatsoever
No such thing, snyderjeet

>>212742052
I wrote within MoS, because they clearly did not consider the full implications of a Smallville fight that Superman caused - they simply wanted spectacle. Superman having zero sense of remorse or self awareness he engineered the town becoming a warzone is such bull.

>>212742052
>He even calls his mom in the middle of the night because he cant handle the stress of being superman.
Please refresh me on that scene then, because all I remember is him being stressed and sad over the level of public criticism and accusations he murdered men in Africa, and if that's what it was that relates to him showing fuck all guilt over Smallville how exactly?

>>212742053
Right and that's NOT superman. Kek. He wouldn't abandon JUST to talk about relationships lmao. You want me to believe he will go out of his way to save a squirrel but will listen to people he knows will KILL? Lmao kek. Keep coping

>>212742160
But then again this happens in comics, cartoons, video games etc. Even literally in Gunn's film. Probably like 3 times. And OP IS right, he kills his clone without a second thought like the squirrel. Arguably even Superman knows in the comics not to kill his clone because he knows Bizarro isnt that bright. They even made it a thing that Superman would NOT survive the black hole, which is why he had to save himself. He didnt seem remorseful towards that?

>>212742235
It's the scene literally right after the media montage scene where they are trying to paint Clark as a villain. Tbh anon Im a snyderjeet but I completely forgot about him phoning his mom in the middle of the night till I rewatched the ultimate cut. Im not even sure if that was in the theatrical one. My gf and I just rewatched it last night

>>212742344
Anon I didn't complain about Zod getting his neck snapped, cause I actually don't mind that. I more think the entire movie prior up until seeing Superman murder is the straw that broke the camel's back for most people and the neck snap itself could have been perceived different with a different movie surrounding it. Mind telling me what Superman does in the Gunn that is the equivalent of Cavill Superman bringing Zod into Smallville where a huge fight ensues and then showing zero self reflection, remorse, etc. after the fact?

>>212742269
You are being exceptionally nitpicky, dude. Is Superman supposed to show up to every J walking charge?

>>212742383
>It's the scene literally right after the media montage scene where they are trying to paint Clark as a villain
Yeah my recollection pieced together that much. I'm still only confused as to how the fuck Clark confiding in Ma relates to my issue with Superman showing zero remorse over Smallville, because I don't believe the filmmakers actually consider the implications of that whole sequence of events in MoS, they simply wanted the spectacle and something cool like Superman slamming into Zod's face angrily over Martha being threatened

>>212742052
In the same movie where the whole building blew up in his face killing everyone while he just stood there to look "cool"?

>>212740553
What about identical twins? Do they share a soul? How do they decide who gets custody?

>>212740075
Is that your newest cope, Ranjeet?

>>212742446
Gee idk Anon maybe the fact that he's fighting a giant kaiju in the middle of the city and some random girl, literal toddler, has no reaction to it even though it's right behind her. There's very clearly people out on the street. Why isn't he doing anything to help them? Why not try to lure the monster away? Isn't that what people complained about Snyder's?

>>212742493
The remorse is the entirety of the plot in BvS. Theres like 3 scenes with him dealing with the weight of everything. Idgi?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/1lyif2m/so_gunn_said_his_superman_would_kill_if_it_comes/

Pic rel comment represents everything wrong with current Superman discourse. Gunn is the law, and everything that he does suddenly becomes okay.

>>212742522
Just say that you haven't watch the movie. He literally the one saving people while the gang killing the big monster.

>>212742501
You mean like staying behind to look like I an Infantile to argue with his gf while a monster attacked the city and leaving it in the hands of known murderers? Sure sounds like superman alright kek

>>212739713 (OP)
he genocided the entire kryptonian race and said they had their time instead of trying to find a new home for them. he flew one guy into downtown smallville instead of fighting on the empty farm and then directly into a gas station, ihop and bunch of other buildings killing most of population of his hometown. he fought in downtown metropolis killing millions. zod threw a gas truck at him at one point and instead of catching it, he super speed dodged it so it could kille veryone in the building behind him. he was going to let entire planet die and keep hiding from the kryptonians until a priest convinced him not to let 8 billion people die.

hes a fucking monster on a level villains can only hope to be in man of steel.

>>212742555
Even Pa Kent's story about he was thinking he was a hero for saving a farm from flooding, but blindly getting all his neighbors horses killed too is literally the parallel to MoS. I dont get what people missed about that.

>>212742595
Okay let's count the death toll.
0

>>212740764
>Define "Superman 2"
Wow, Gunn DOES NOT want to make the sequel, does he? Define it? Uhhh a follow-up movie that continues from the events of the first?

>>212742586
Yeah cause superman saved all those people when he's the strongest and fastest and could possibly lure that monster away. Kek

>>212742596
>he genocided the entire kryptonian race and said they had their time instead of trying to find a new home for them.

They traveled across the galaxy and decided to fuck up Earth despite having a terraforming machine that they could roll up on like a million other worlds to start their new Krypton project.
They wanted Earth just to be dicks about it.

>>212742555
I swear to God every single argument I have had with a Snyder fan goes around endlessly in circles. I addressed this - the WEIGHT of all the public criticism and people accusing him of mass murder in Africa. How does the stress over this actually address his total absense of any remorse within MoS over him bringing the fight into Smallville?
>>212742522
>kaiju fight is equivalent of Superman tackling his enemy away from farmland and into a town resulting in it becoming a warzone and then zero guilt over this
kek
>trying to lure the monster that's in a big public square away from the city... via narrow city streets lined with cars, people, and buildings
kek

>>212742661
Time to read >>212742631

>>212742631
This is cope lol. Buildings literally crushed and fell. Lets count the death toll in MoS now then? Since it's the same ofsceeen deaths you want to count like me kek. To think NO ONE died during the finale of Superman or the kaiju attack is really funny desu. Guy Gardner even kills military men in this movie. Green Lanterns dont kill. Top kek

>>212742680
>I swear to God every single argument I have had with a Snyder fan goes around endlessly in circles.
Why are you surprised? Snyderfags don't actually believe the shit they say. They're just trolling.

>>212742596
Fuck krypton and fuck ihop

>>212742680
How does it NOT? It's all about BEING SUPERMAN. It all adds to the same WEIGHT. I swear Gunnjeets love doing mental gymnastics in their head. No wonder their movie is flopping

If your enjoyment of a movie is determined by Superman dodging a gas tanker you’re just gay

>>212742735
I can believe it, I made a shitpost earlier about Eisenberg Lex being one of the great villains in all of fiction and how a friend who has a MA in Religious Studies and PhD in English literature was really educated me as to how this is so lol

>>212741228
You dont even know how to google, the way you explained it was completely wrong

>>212742832
Lol what? Are you retarded and didn't get the joke?

>>212742675
they needed codex from superman. earth had a yellow sun making them gods. establishing new home there made sense. fuck humans.

>>212742832
>zoomer doesn't know you can put the search engine in the url with a backslash for the subject

>>212742711
Empty building crushed and fell. They have already evacuated. How? It's a comicbook movie.

>>212742782
>Ma I am stressed out because so many people hate me and think I have bad intentions and think I did murders I did not do, this is really started to wear me down mentally
How does this relate to me disliking how MoS did not have Clark at all reckon with the fact the battle in Smallville was caused by his direct actions?

>this superman doesn't kill
>but will let his friends murder for him so it's ok
>i'm a punk rocker yes I am

>>212742909
Name one person that was murdered.

>>212742920
they dropped a politician in a war crime take over a country at end. but superman didnt do it, so its fine the paramilitary super squad from a private citizen maxwell lord did it this time.

>>212742950
>name a person Superman killed
>can't name one
>"here's an unrelated one from someone else, when Superman wasn't even there for to stop, of a literal dictator"
fucking kek really reaching. You people are malding at this movie.

>>212742875
>Links google and tells me to go to wikipedia instead of linking wikipedia in the first place

>>212742972
the post replied to was about superman letting his friends kill being ok. you retardedly asked one person that was murdered. i told you who. kill yourself nigger.

>>212742821
>I can believe it, I made a shitpost earlier about Eisenberg Lex being one of the great villains in all of fiction
Um but he is

>>212743043
shhhh don't tell the intellectual inferior apemen this, their tiny little brains will break totally if they considered an iota of how brilliant bvs lex is

>>212742569
To those types this was always a political battle under the guise of media criticism. And people like Zack Snyder, Michael Bay or Taylor Sheridan are seen as part of the out-group. That's it and that's all.

>>212742882
Kek. This excuse is okay for Superman but NOT man of steel. Of course

>>212742988
Yeah I figured you would get the redundancy joke because of how simple it is to find out that BvS is a fucking sequel but it's summer and I should have known better, sorry saar.

>>212743029
He was in the pocket universe when that happened, polnigger. Did your camrip need to reload or something?

>>212743275
No anon, political culture war shit was not relevant to MoS having controversy over Zod killed in 2013. I am gonna say that there basically is a double standard with Cavillman and Corenman killing but it isn't malicious political brain rot causing this but differences in presentation, i.e. MoS much more somber and darker (even visually) with a visceral murder at the end simply being too much for some people vs. a much lighter and comedic movie with a murder by proxy.

>>212743347
Because one has people evacuated while the other literally kickstarts BvS.

>>212742882
Must be nice to avoid any consequences or stakes in your live action cartoon by saying the whole city evacuated within 5 minutes. What a cowardly fucking cop out lol.

>>212743475
Uh-huh whatever you say, Gunnbot

>>212742950
>killing dictators is bad now
Kek, pearl clutching over a fictional dictator is the funniest thing I've read all day

>>212743541
>Must be nice to avoid any consequences
Literally what MoS is guilty of with shit like zero reckoning over Superman bringing the fight into Smallville and his cavalier nonreaction to seeing the destroyed downtown Metropolis lol. They wanted spectacle without actually considering the appropriate implications they would have on a character like Superman and don't actually have the excuse Gunn has to deliberately making a light hearted movie

>>212743541
Better than doubling down with that theme and then watch the whole court house blow up while "Superman" just stand there looking bored. Snyder just like being edgy for the sake of it.

>>212743541
So any film that intends to be light hearted is cowardly compared to a 'dark' one?

Reminder that the avenger wasn't meet with same criticisms when they too destroyed a city. Just a few scenes showing your characters actively trying to save people go a long way.

>>212743634
The entire sequel is about him reckoning with the consequences of the battle of Metropolis.
>>212743666
>watch the whole court house blow up while "Superman" just stand there looking bored
Not what happened and you probably haven't seen the Ultimate Cut where it actually shows him saving people after the blast.
>>212743804
No, but any film that hand waives any potential consequences, stakes, or collateral damage by just saying that the city magically evacuated in an instant is cowardly.

>>212743882
Yeah because it was good and people liked it, that's why. You get away with more if you make a good movie.

>>212743897
>you have to see this other cut of the movie for the movie you did see to not be a hilarious mess
kek no

>>212743934
Yes you stupid fuck. The theatrical cut is NOT Snyder's movie.

>>212740221
>The sequel will prove it when it releases

>>212743983
Lol the fact you don't understand how hilarious this is to say

>>212743901
Age of Ultron was shit and it has the destruction that lead to infighting just like MoS too. It's really just how you portray your characters, MoS just feel like he doesn't give a shit.

>>212744054
pic related has had shit takes on film for over a decade why would you post him seriously?

>>212744058
So it's settled then. All the people complaining about BvS are just too ignorant to see the Ultimate Edition with the full story.

>>212743627
No, its to show the hypocrisy in complaints about killing Zod.

>>212744137
Are you new to this discussion? Because Snyder always was coping about "le ultimate edition" when he had complete creative control over BvS, he only said this because of the critical reception being poor.

>>212743934
I mean, yeah??? Not Snyder's fault they gutted 30 minutes out of his movie at the 11th hour.

>>212744175
Its not even the same fucking thing, Apu. One example is Superman being unable to save the poor dindu nuffin dictator because he's trapped in a pocket universe dealing with his clone is the other Superman actively killing Zod for no reason at all.

Its patently not even remotely the same scenes lol

>>212740814
retard

>>212739713 (OP)
> Corenswet kills Ultraman

He isn’t dead.

>>212743983
Explain why. It's literally the same shit with some re edit to counter some of the criticisms, how is it not a Snyder's film. You can't make me sit through MARTHA twice tho, nice try.

>>212744224
>this meme again

>>212744091
>Superman doesnt care
He literally saves military men in Man of Steel who are against him when Zod's army attacks. He even stops to asks them "are you okay", unlike gunnslop. Not to mention why would Lois say this if he wasnt saving people or helping others? Why do the criticisms for this movie fall flat when actually watching the movie? Kek

>>212739713 (OP)
clones are spare parts nothing more

>>212743897
>The entire sequel is about him reckoning with the consequences of the battle of Metropolis.
Insofar as public suspicion, Batman's crusade, etc. are concerned you dense cunt. That doesn't fucking alter my big issues with no remorse/guilt over the battle in Smallville he brought there and his cavalier nonreaction to what was 9/11 on steroids as opposed to rage and sorrow over what his species did.

>>212743475
A third of the discourse I've seen around this movie online is about how Gunn's movie is good because they believe it shits on Israel (it's obviously shitting on Russia). And another chunk is about how incel Snyderbros are angry. Smells like culture was shit to me.

>>212744304
>it's obviously shitting on Russia
No it isn't, its stated Baravia is a US ally which Russia is not, its clearly a stand in for Israel

>>212744267
>ensured Smallville becomes a battleground by tackling Zod into the town
>no remorse/guilt because quite literally this didn't occur to the filmmakers, they wanted spectacle
>a total nonreaction to the aftermath of Smallville
>but then saving the soldier and killing Zod for the sake of the family before crying and screaming in sorrow
MoS is unfortunately inconsistent with how Superman prioritises life and responds to death lol

>>212744358
>aftermath of Smallville
*of Metropolis

>>212744224
Retard. The 2.5 hours mark was set from the start.
Nobody would watchs a 3-4 hours of capshit. So instead of toning down the slomo because muh coolness he butchered the Africa subplot.
The whole thing is still a mess even with the ultimate edition.

>>212744267
Show versus tell

>>212744267
Show, don't tell nigger. Show, don't fucking tell. Superman 2025 actually has multiple scenes of him saving people and breaking down when he failed to save one.

>>212744206
Nothing you said is true. They announced the ultimate edition before the movie even released. He also didn't have complete creative control, the studio forced him to chop 30 minutes to keep from getting a R rating and also so they could have more showings hence the compromise with the UC.

>>212744355
>ummm fictional country called niplandia where all the architecture is east Asian and everyone has Japanese accents isn't a stand in for Japan because of one small plot point so obviously it's zimbabwe

>>212744259
what meme? everything I said is objective fact that can be verified and sourced.

>>212744405
>The 2.5 hours mark was set from the start.
Not true. You're talking out your ass.
>Nobody would watchs a 3-4 hours of capshit
Except the same studio just released a 3 hour solo Batman movie lol.

>>212744527
>one small plot point
yeah because the dictator looked so much like Putin and not David Ben-Gurion a former prime minister of Israel right?

>>212744490
>>212744556
>Delusional Snyderfags are once again pretending he didn't have "creative control"

>>212744711
>wrinkly old man looks old and wrinkly just like this other wrinkly old man. coincidence? I think not!
lol can't really expect much from clapping seels

>>212744556
>3 hour solo Batman movie
And it was too fucking long.

>>212742501
It is really telling that the vast majority of criticisms against the Snyder movies entirely come down to the fact people do not remember what happens in them. The bomb was cased in lead. He could not hear it until it went off. The very next scene has him evacuating people from the building. I hate BvS. I think it is a giant mess of a film but criticize it for shit that it actually does wrong.

>>212744748
He didn't have final cut for the theatrical release. Why are you even trying to dispute this? It's well documented.

>>212739713 (OP)
Preach.

>>212744527
The aesthetic of the country is not as important as the geopolitical position of the country. Change the aesthetic and nothing about the plot changes. Change the fact that Baravia is an ally of the U.S. and the motivation for the U.S. military to get in league with Luthor makes much less sense

>>212744912
>one plot point for the geopolitical sideshow everyone said could've easily been cut since it feels so pointless
Am I going to have to keep requesting myself?

>>212745009
*Repeating

>>212744846
Agreed but that's not the point. The point is that studios are clearly willing to release blockbusters near or at the 3 hour mark. Even the IT sequel was 2 hours and 49 minutes or something crazy.

>>212740913
It's a bit contrived but better than doing nothing at all and then centering the entire conflict of the sequel around the casualties Superman is responsible for. These are the movies you like btw, Rajeesh.

>>212742569
I guess they forgot they hated Gunn for being a pedo.

>>212742950
Jews are not people.

>>212744106
Not just film, he's had shit takes on games before too.

>>212745083
Well Americans elected Trump whose a pedo so its not that far fetched.

>>212740149
>dimension tear kills half the city
>no we have to save the people in this
one park!

>>212745206
He said that before he saw the true scope of the city tearing, then he sent the Justice Gang to deal with that problem while he stopped the dimensional bullshit, which still makes him better than Man of Murder

>>212740036
This, identical twins are fair game as long as you kill the youngest one

>>212745009
You’re making a separate argument here. Whether or not the Baravia ally ship is important to the plot is irrelevant to assessing whether or not it’s meant to be an allegory for Israel or Russia. And I disagree with the point you’re making anyway. Without US military backing Luthor has no legs to stand on to publicly arrest Superman and bring him in for questioning on behalf of the U.S. government.

>>212740349
green lantern is literally in the background fighting it

>>212739713 (OP)
would kal still kill zod if he only wanted to kill jews and niggers? i wonder

>>212744881
Because it's bullshit, newfag.

>>212745660
okay, stay wrong and ignorant I guess.

>>212745317
Lex can use whatever inconsequential reason the writers give him. It is far from the first time.

Yes, it was always stupid and childish to complain about Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel.

>>212739713 (OP)
Don’t forget that they are okay with Superman torturing a man with a cactus

Superman is gay and boring, oh look a perfect man who can fly and shoot lasers and punch the sun and do anything and live forever and time travel yada yada yada. Every version of him has sucked including the reeves version we're just nostalgic because movies were made by white people back then.
This one sucks too in different ways, it's not because of some bullshit politics the movie would suck no matter what. Capeshit is low brow bing bing wahoo and only a tiny handful of them have managed to break out of the mold and this one certainly wasn't one.

>>212739713 (OP)
Since the clone is falling into a black hole, time dilation means it's still alive from our frame of reference. In fact, it will be alive forever. It is frozen in time for infinity.

>>212745706
He had final cut on all three movies, he wasn't ordered to change the plot, he was given an extended release for all three films with WB just saying "do whatever". It only because a problem after JL was butchered (by Snyder) because he had other things he was working on, that conflicted with his final cut sessions. WB literally always knew he was getting the opportunity to release a longer cut on streaming and the onus was on HIM to remove what he needed for the theatrical

Get fucked retard, it's all cope anyway, his "full extended vision" sucks anyway and I don't know why you people go to bat for him this hard. The retard has never made a good movie.

>>212744247
>willingly let's bizzaro fall into a black hole
Superman wouldn't do this either kek

>>212745768
Then the question becomes why did Gunn decide to make it explicit that Baravia was an ally. And within the context of the movie, it wouldn’t make sense for Superman to turn himself over to Lex without government involvement. Superman mistakenly thought his right would be respected (as he thought of himself as human enough to be entitled to due process), and it was only because the U.S. wanted to question Superman that Lex kept him alive. Without that established, Lex would have just killed Superman immediately.

>>212740827
>picrel
based, that's my superman.

>>212744445
>>212744471
But they do show it nigguh. You guys just want to ignore it. She is just saying that because she is an investigator. He saves the entire oil rig in the beginning, he saves even a girl from being sexually harassed (gunn slop where that at?) He saves his mother, he saves military men trying to stop him, and even stops to asks them if they are alright (corenswet didnt do this) there's literally a whole montage in BvS showing him around the world saving people. Snyder is 100% a show not tell person, idk why this cope is happening now. The last scene shows how his father got to see him grow being a hero, by showing a flashback to him wearing a towel as cape–that is set between an interaction between Clark and his mom talking about his father. Saying he wish he knew what he would become. Which was Superman. Cut to a flashback of Pa Kent watching his son be a kid hero. Gunnslop could never. In fact, they'll call their son a stranger. Kek

>>212746334
Why does young Clark wear a cape at the end? Within the context of the universe it doesn’t make sense.

>>212746448
You never fucking did that as a kid anon? Jfc
The point is to show that Pa Kent saw a hero in his son. They SHOW not TELL that unlike >>212744471 >>212744445 want to believe. Kek

>>212739713 (OP)
Superman literally killed millions by fighting zod

>>212745948
>NOOO YOU CANT SLIGHTLY PRICK SADDAM!!!

>>212746161
You zoomers have no concept of silver or gold age Superman, he had no fucking qualms letting murderers or psychopaths die.

>>212739713 (OP)
>noooooo superman cant kill because batman refuses to kill anyone!

>>212746200
Because the US constantly allies or facilitates despots and regimes you fucking idiot. How is this hard to understand?

>>212739713 (OP)
I fucking hate quips every 5 seconds. I really wish they would put a quip warning on movies.
>this movie is heavily wedonized
great I'll just ignore it

I think the New Superman could have been a halfway decent film without the fucking marvel quips all the time. I wish I knew who actually likes that shit because I'd punch them in the face.

>>212746509
I tied a towel around my neck because I wanted to pretend to be a Superhero. Superheroes don’t exist within the pop culture iconography of the DCEU because Superman doesn’t appear until 2012 and there are no superheroes that act as a stand-in

>>212746594
So why the fuck do you think it’s an allegory for Russia beyond the aesthetic?

>>212746559
Silver Age Superman had the no kill you rule, you fucking retard.

>>212746614
Stupidest fucking cope I have ever read this fucking far.

>>212746602
name all the quips

>>212746334
My favorite version of kent is still the Smallville one. Sure it's not fair because they get so much more time to develop him but I like that they don't lean too hard into the perfect family route and actually talk about and show their flaws while still maintaining an unbreakable strive for good moral values. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozPea5GIupk

>>212746840
> seething because there’s literally no answer if you think about it for more than a second

>>212746698
I'm not that anon, but clearly it's different analogies; he's obviously Putin wrongfully invading Ukraine and the also a stand-in for any despot the US turns a blind eye from if it profits us....like how we have left Ukraine to swing in the wind.

>>212746805
No, I don't think he ever explicitly said that. I remember a few comics where he kills people.

>>212747243
and then there's the simple fact that this movie was being written when Ukraine got invaded. The war in Gaza only just happened and the Palestine issue has been verboten in Hollywood for ages.

>>212747502
>war
genocide, the word is genocide.

>>212744106
Hey tourist.
Why don't you fuck off back to whichever tranny Discord you found your way here from as you don't understand basic board culture?

>>212747587
Only tourists cry about discord, newfaggot. Stay mad. Is discord in the room with you? Suck my cock, your Nostalgia Critic orbiters are all cringe with bad opinions

>>212747587
>board culture is liking shitty youtube ecelebs who were in Kickassia
kek no.

>another pajeet wars thread
>what this board calls CAPESHIT attracts indians
Pottery

>>212746213
Mine too!!!!!

>>212748184
>tv/film board
>"Why you talk about tv and film?"

>>212747889
Board culture is understanding how greentext works in relation to an image, you fucking troon.

>>212739713 (OP)
>>212739824

Clones and robots are fine to kill its why George Lucas made a whole war about clones fighting robots

>>212740404
Bizarro is far too based to make it to the big screen

>>212748812
Lol no please, explain how that's not correct greentext?
>t. retarded newfaggot has no idea what he's spitballing

>>212746022
man you're so cool, i bet all your friends invite you to go watch movie with them

>>212739713 (OP)
Ultraman is gonna be bizzaro Superman it’s so obvious

>>212748949
>Lol no please, explain how that's not correct greentext?
>>t. retarded newfaggot has no idea what he's spitballing

>>212749060
They do, and we watch good movies. I'm happy for you though, even normalfags deserve to have fun.

>>212740538
Superman lets other heroes do shit all the time. He knows the other heroes don’t everything recklessly

>>212749177
Cool, so in your autismo rage you admit it's correct? Thanks summerfren. Enjoy 4channel!

>>212744766
>seels
Hi sir I sapport SNYDER too

>>212741752
The world engine was in the city retard

>>212751419
They're simpletons, idiotic morons incapable of any rationality!!!!

>>212747521
yawn

>>212740349
Faggot, he literally told Lois it’s a nothing burger that the JG can handle

>>212740575
Why you are fucking and whole thread is fucking saying shit on India? Why you don't just fuck off. Superman 2025 is highly successful is why it's popular in India like it's popular everywhere on the world.

>>212743541
>Must be nice to avoid any consequences or stakes in your live action cartoon
That's what superhero media should be, you dumb faggot.

>>212752356
Ok psychopath

>>212754336
You know what else the rest of the world likes? Hygiene! Next time you get lucky rubbing a lamp ask for some fucking soap.

>>212739713 (OP)
Clones were not created by god

>>212740588
>And No Richard Donner's Cop out isn't Canon because he was Fired.
Then josstice league is canon :)

>>212740688
Then don't write them that way?
everyone can write characters into a corner and then pretend there is no way out

>>212739713 (OP)
>indifferent alien who destroy everything and then murders the adversary
>superman who saves people left and right and the mursers the adversary
Spot the difference, snydertard.
Spoiler: one is 0% superman, the other is 95% superman

>>212739713 (OP)
God I hate the shitfaced expressions Cavill makes in those stupd movies. He was born to be All Star Superman, made by Gunn or whatever...

>>212740606
>Billions of humans who are, perceivably, like insects to him
>Finally meets 3-4 Kryptons... people just like him
>Has to kill them since they disagree with his morals
Yeah. He would certainly feel bad about that.
You could be raised by a colony of ants, seemingly loving them, but when a trio of humans discover you, giving the first interaction with beings on the same level of you... nearly immediately choosing to kill them would make existence really difficult to justify.

>>212748749
>capeshit
>shit
>attracts street shitters

also
>talk about
both versions are bad and childish,there's your talk

>>212739713 (OP)
didn't snap his neck, just let him get sucked into a wormhole.

>>212757491
he is alive when last seen

>>212746022
It's a power fantasy. All humans wish they were stronger. It's fun to think about.

>>212747010
I also enjoyed Warner Brothers "Smallville."
I think I'll rewatch some early seasons.
>Premiered 2001
Ha. I was 15. I'm constantly being reminded that so many Internet posters, posting right now, weren't even born, yet.

>>212742383
>I just rewatched it last night

>>212744874
no it comes down entirely t the movies being bad

>>212741544
That squirrel was a reincarnation of your great grandpa, Mutar.

>>212744874
It comes down to them being shit when compared to the Marvel movies coming out at the time actually. You might think it's unfair (I don't really care either way) but there was 100% the idea that DC was rushed, badly acted and overall just phoning in everything.

Anyways they fucked up the tone to a lot of the characters anyways so that didn't fucking help things either. What retard thought putting a jaded, murdering Batman in as his entrance to universe was peak retarded. They skipped past a ton of content and set-up just to get the stupid BIG THEME they wanted, which was a big problem with them in general.

>>212739713 (OP)
He doesn't actively murder the clone, he just was not able to save the clone. And the clone will be fine

>>212742794
It's determined by the characterization of the main characterer, yes. Among other things.

>>212743897
>The entire sequel is about him reckoning with the consequences of the battle of Metropolis.
no it isn't
>Not what happened and you probably haven't seen the Ultimate Cut where it actually shows him saving people after the blast.
after standing there among the flames, incapable of emotions
>No, but any film that hand waives any potential consequences, stakes, or collateral damage by just saying that the city magically evacuated in an instant is cowardly.
BvS does this, while never showing people running away. Unlike Superman

stop defending bad movies

>>212744874
>The very next scene
No? This is the very next scene people watched. Just him looking "aw shit, here we go again"

>>212744874
A movie being so boring that people start tuning it out is the movies fault.

>>212758033
Power fantasies used to be good
>>212749060
they actually do
some people still have standards

>>212746576
yes? so what?

>>212747267
I bet you do lol

>>212759379
>Damn I wish I was in a better written movie

>>212748703
what's superman about it?

>>212748749
Bad movies apologists barking old shit isn't "discussing"

>>212751419
And so was snyderman, destroying buidings

Snyder can't make a hit without having a critically acclaimed story to adapt. He's just that shit of a director.

>>212759379
Another problem is that people are still basing their retarded opinions on the theatrical cut.

>>212753873
How does he know?
>Gunn tells, doesn't show

>>212759858
>Recuts his movie specifically based on theatrical feedback then says "guyzzz this was my vision all along!"
Theatrical cut was what was released, it will be the basis of opinions. He should have cut the original movie better or called the studio out on it as it was releasing

>>212759858
That scene is in both cuts, retard

>>212759987
The director's cit was announced before the theatrical cut's release

>>212759858
Nobody with the right mind would watch BvS twice you fucking jeet.

>>212743504
They were literally empty buildings in Man of Steel anon. Most of them had been evacuated clearly.

>>212760007
That just mean he's willing to show the whole world the theatrical cut's release.

>>212747099
Superheros do exist in the dceu anon they talk about this in Shazam. Top kek

>>212739824
>it was a clump of cells!

>>212759379
Moron. The scene immediately after this

>>212760649
Not in the version that everyone saw.

>>212740488
Have you ever read a comic book? Black holes teleport you to other places in them.
>Uh but that's not realistic

I hope the film does well because I liked it, and would like more superhero movies that are this good.
But the change to Jor-El was fucking retarded.

>>212759858
>how DARE you judge a movie on the version you saw in cinemas
no one in their right fucking mind would watch that shlock twice

>>212743901
>age of ultron
>good
Anon even normies don't like that one plus they don't like taking about it cause Whedon got canceled

i liked age of ultron :(

>>212762195
It had a really good trailer.

>>212739713 (OP)


People who lack emotional intelligence take things at surface level and that's why quips will trick them into thinking what they just watched was good.

>>212761089
>that are this good
This bloated nonsensical trainwreck shows all it takes is a musical swell at the 20, 40, and 90 minute marks to make 60% of people think a movie hits this modern high bar of "ok".

>ultraman buckbreaks superman in the first minute... then luthor has him fly away instead of killing him
>the USSLiberty9000 suit flies into what is later stated a straight up US military base after beating up superman, the government is ignorant to this or the movie ends at the 10 minute mark
>10 minutes of the movie, a twelth of it by runtime, is just lois brow beating superman about not trusting the government enough... then spends whole movie fighting the government that supports notisrael though her journalism powers
>government gives luthor the apparent go ahead to kill superman, doesn't do it in the nonsense dimension while doused in kryptonite... because reasons
>big plan to attract superman away from his antibormetic prevention of genocide so his clone can kill him, killing him always the plan, is to... tear open the fabric of reality with a black hole. A thing superman has no way to stop himself and that is ultimately stopped by electricity nigga
>kryptonians are saiyans/viltrumites according to the baby message... but adult space kara is around who'd know that

>>212762927
>then luthor has him fly away instead of killing him
You answered it in your own post bro. But yeah the prison bit is dumb but you can chuck it up to Luthor's pride and how he wants to toy with Superman because he's that petty.

>>212762195
General audiences liked it faggot, first few phases of Marvel are seen as positive. Box office sure disagrees with you on Age of Ultron.

>>212762927
Imagine being so mad this is going to surpass 600mil in less than a week and you type a block of greentext lol over capeshit.

>>212763378
>well yeah it's bad but it might make back it's own production and marketing budget!
just 2 more weeks

>>212763542
Screencapped, malding anon. Let me guess, was the zero sum marketing budget like a gorbillion dollars? A gortillion?

>>212763542
Kek its budget was only 225 mil you fucking newfaggot. You people are utterly retarded with how magical "marketing" budgets are, in the age of the internet, with a billion dollar legacy company like WB.

>>212763154
>the fist of boravia disguise 100% works even when it shouldn't
>lex just wants to kill superman to the point the entire half baked boravia subplot, a decade in the movies time, is "just" to orchestrate the death of superman
>lex beat superman with his chess master moveset
>doesn't kill him, his one goal as revealed later

nowhere in the 2 hours do they establish or attempt a "kill the myth" element to Lex killing superman, he just trying to kill superman for loud "I am silly!" reasons. But he doesn't kill superman the many times he could have killed superman before the shock reveal... he wants to kill superman. The most charitable you could call it is underwritten

>>212763795
Good evening saar

>>212763901
guardians volume 3 was mid and relied entirely on artificial pathos too, but the plot at least makes sense when written out on a cocktail napkin. Gunn is as big a hack as Snyder, the last things WarnerDC made written well enough to bother making were all animated, and no you saar are indian.