>random 90s teen drama
>better acting, writing, direction, cinematography than 99% of today's tv and movies
i'm like 4 episodes into this absolute kino and it's just making me mad how shit everything is now

>>212749107 (OP)
It's just depressing how low standards are now. It's so refreshing watching an old show and there is a basic competent level of filmmaking. Even the most mundane shows back then carried themselves better than top budgeted shows of today.

Her slutty friend was where it's at.

>>212749179
She was the girl in the People Under the Stairs

>>212749171
it's just weird how much effort was put into everything back then

>>212749587

It's all about how things are shot. As soon as the jump was made into digital and digital post-production everyone just started phoning it in since it can be "fixed in post". Once everyone figured they can halfass it nobody is bringing any effort to things at all.
To cover for that they paradoxically started making everyone look like they have pristine haircuts and clothes. So instead of shit looking lived in and worn it all looks like it's fresh off the rack.

Oh yeah and they fired all the writers during the strike and subsequent purges. Now people that write scripts are interns or studio yesmen just going by whatever bullet points the studio execs give them based on social media metrics. Completely soulless process where noone in particular is in charge of anything.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwmMiCxB_LY
it's literally the best show that ever was

>>212749179
the actress ended up marrying a british earl and now she lives in a literal castle and is the countess of devon

>>212749107 (OP)
I can't watch it. I tried. It makes me physically ill thinking about my own adolescence in that time and place.

>>212750225
Womanbros won.

Wasn't Jared Leto in this

>>212749171
Those competent people are all now retired or dead. There's no hope. The brain trust is gone. There is no fertile cable TV stations to run endless smalltime shows. The era is over.

>>212750225
It's weird because Devon and Devonshire are both the same thing, but the Duke of Devonshire also holds the title of Earl of Devonshire, but he lives near me, which is 300 miles from he's the duke of. It's also funny that they both have Peregrine in their names.
>Charles Peregrine Courtenay, 19th Earl of Devon
>Peregrine Cavendish, 12th Duke of Devonshire

>>212750334
because it was good or because it was bad?

>>212750668
yeah, here he is making out with 15yo claire danes when he was 23

>>212749107 (OP)
cute girl =/= good show

>>212749107 (OP)
Yep. Things have just gone downhill pretty much every year since 2000. And it just keeps sliding farther into the septic tank.

>>212749107 (OP)
This is probably the comfiest show of all time if you enjoy that early 90s time period.

>>212749107 (OP)
>random
>Launched a handful of major acting careers
>and a major directing career
>One of the most popular shows of the era on MTV

Fuck off Xanax Zoomer. You weren't even a thought when My So Called Life was on the air. Dead eyed fucking loser.

>>212751307

>>212750225
She has to mow all that grass

>>212751307
>MTV
It was on ABC

>>212751868
they aired reruns on MTV but saying it was one of the most popular shows of the era is laughable

>>212750225
She can still hold that title even after getting divorced? That's pretty sweet.

>>212749107 (OP)
My so called life wasn’t “random.” It was universally praised and one of the most baffling cancellations in history, right up there with police squad being canceled because “you had to watch it”

>>212749107 (OP)
I never watched it is it actually good or is it just good compared to what's being made now? Also should I watch Felicity?

>>212749179
Why did Brian stare at her legs

>>212751307
>>212752037
>zoomers genuinely think mscl was a huge show when it aired
grim

>>212749799
It’s not just that. Sometime in the 00s Hollywood started putting non-defamation clauses in every contract. Meaning you can’t even critique what’s happening on set without risking breach of contract. The resulting forced positivity means you can’t even exert effort because you can’t admit something doesn’t work, can’t prevent mistakes.

On top of everything else Hollywood’s business model has been obsolete for about 20 years and the only reason they haven’t collapsed yet is because they don’t want to admit it. Like the wile e coyote bits where he’s running along in thin air and as long as he doesn’t look down he won’t fall.

>>212752217
His last name is Krakow which makes him a figure of jest and derision as it's a city in Poland

>>212749179
>>212749247
she was also in an episode of Baywatch.

>>212752100
it's one of those 90s shows that is more popular now than when it aired so it obviously has something special about it
might as well give it a try but there's no big plot or anything mindblowing about it, it's just a really well made show about a teenage girl and her family and friends in early 90s america

>>212752476
>Who's going to shoot me with this bod, Mom?

There is a German adaptation that was pretty gud which ran for six seasons. Too bad I can't find any torrents of it anywhere because Germans are cucks and don't use torrents because they get sent scary letters by their ISP.

>>212749107 (OP)
>random 80s sitcom
>better writing and better character arcs than 90% of most dramas and comedies

>>212752515
Sounds like a good watch then. Thanks anon.

>>212749107 (OP)
For a couple years Claire Danes was the best looking woman on the planet. Was strange how quickly she walled.

>>212752986
she was only 15, you sick fuck!

>>212749107 (OP)
Is there an AIDS episode?

It’s because television used to be made by television professionals. Not blue haired freaks who work for tech companies.

>>212753075
nope

>>212753003
She peaked in Romeo and Juliet, the best a female has ever or will ever look. She was 17.

>>212752262
It was one of the “everyone loves it but no one is watching it” cancellations, was the point youre too skullfucked to understand.

Middle School is a crazy time, all you have to do is ask and even a dork like this was able to date an 11/10

>>212750225
jokes on her...beat it's pretty drafty

>>212753307

This, every time I saw it on tv everyone in it was sighing and rolling their eyes and being incredibly melodramatic in a cringy way.
Also way too much time was spent on that gay friend (who is/was now in ST:Discovery?).

Anyway, back in the day all the cool kids were watching Beverly Hills 90210

>>212753154
i love that movie so much
she's pretty and a legit great actress but i never thought she was a great beauty
hussey is a lot more my type

>>212750225
Didn’t they film part of cloud atlas there?

>>212751868
ABC canceled it after half of it's first season. MTV picked it up mid season, and aired the final two along with reruns.
>>212752262
>>212751908

Generation X you homosexuals. I was there. You weren't.

>>212749107 (OP)

Haven´t boomers and Millennials been saying this for years? There are exceptions though, they are rare but some times we still get good shows and movies. Not that this board would know since they are obssesed with capeshit, SW and the like just as much as normies.

>>212752986
>For a couple years Claire Danes was the best looking woman on the planet. Was strange how quickly she walled.

>>212753407
>i never thought she was a great beauty
Not an insult just genuinely asking, are you a gay man?

>>212753307
>zoomer continues larping
hardly anyone knew it existed, you fucking retard, which is why the ratings were shit
it got good reviews and had some high profile fans but it was never a hit and only became a cult classic once the internet took off
jfc zoomers have no concept of what the world was like pre-social media

>>212753325
he was a musician she liked

>>212752379
>g non-defamation clauses in every contract
wow. yeah now fuck that shit.
>>212749799
>Oh yeah and they fired all the writers during the strike and subsequent purges. Now people that write scripts are interns or studio yesmen
That only mattered for the first few years. Then it was whoever made it through the bullshit that was the 2010s political college scene where anything not pro sodomy was thrown out and people openly advocated for trash everything.

>>212753486
>>i never thought she was a great beauty
>Not an insult just genuinely asking, are you a gay man?
not OP, always thought she was sexy/hot...but there were girls in my highschool that mogged her. I always thought that was part of her appeal...seemed obtainable

>>212753455
Watch the entirety of Charmed, the original series, then watch the remake.

>>212753705
>>212753455
Or Angel compared to the last five seasons of Supernatural.

>>212753447
>MTV picked it up mid season, and aired the final two along with reruns.
fucking kek no, you pathetic little larping faggot, the whole run aired on abc and then mtv aired reruns
it didn't get cancelled until the following summer when abc decided not to renew it because of low ratings, not enough buzz from mtv reruns and claire danes not wanting to come back so she could focus on movies
rope yourself, lil zoom zoom

>>212749107 (OP)
Better music too

https://youtu.be/D9Ybwse4lXU

“Juliana Hatfield as you’ve never seen her before… as a chimney-sweep”

>>212753486
fuck off, dipshit

>>212753814
Can you do a week by week breakdown and adjust for inflation and compare it to popular shows of the season? No, I didn't think so you little squirmy rat.

>>212753814
lol old TV dynamics are so weird zoomers will never be able to understand why home movies first ran on UPN (a channel mostly filled with black family sitcoms) as opposed to Cartoon Network

>>212753819
yeah, the music was great
lemonheads, buffalo tom, r.e.m., cranberries, violent femmes, daniel johnston, sonic youth
plus the score is pretty brilliant too, i think the same guy did the early episodes of roswell, very comfy

>>212752262
My so called life being canceled made national, multi-network news, as well as when mtv picked it up

>>212753544
>success == marketing

It’s weird that so many retards believe this.

>>212754259
weird larp, lil zoom zoom

>>212754371
>zoom zoom
I can guarantee you there is not a single Zoomer alive watching mid-1990s teen dramas.

>>212749107 (OP)
Based

>>212750225
OH NO NO NO COUNTESS BROS

>>212754470
>she fucked jordan again
rayanne!

>>212754410
I'm a zoomer and I watched MSCL, Buffy, Dawsons Creek and Roswell. They're pretty popular on Tiktok. So you're full of shit.

>>212754433
>Juliana Hatfield
>Archers of Loaf
>Afghan Whigs
>The Lemonheads
Holy 90s. I wanna go back. Can we go back?

>>212754410
>I can guarantee you there is not a single Zoomer alive watching mid-1990s teen dramas.
haven't you noticed all the tween girls walking around in Nirvana tshirts lately? shit's come full circle

>>212754433
this cd not having that buffalo tom song from when jordan finally holds angela's hand in public really bummed me out back in the pre-napster days

>>212753880
UPN sometimes would do some odd experiments like that

>>212753325
Brian Crackout won

>>212754642
>walking around in Nirvana tshirts
>falling for the band shirt meme in 2025
>>212754613
>They're pretty popular on Tiktok. So you're full of shit.
I'm generally not tuned into what the troons are going mad over at any given time, so I guess there's that. Most of the zoomettes I talk to are more into 00s chick flicks or anime than anything else.

for me it's the asian girl that borrows brian's pencil while he's tutoring jordan and jordan gets her number for him

>>212750673
>>212749171
Competent storytellers are still very much alive.
Only problem is these dreams are all tucked away in the minds of millennials who don't have any money, and still don't hold any positions of power or creative control.

I'm playing a game called Escape Simulator and some of the maps made by millennials are superb.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCV1-Gsjno4

>>212755289
>these dreams are all tucked away in the minds of millennials
Heart kek

>>212755289
Bless your new sincerity anon. Bless your heart.

>>212749107 (OP)
One of my first memories of having home internet was going on mscl dot com and reading about the way the writers constantly used food as a way for characters to communicate about love in pretty much every episode and it blew my little teenage mind

Another fun fact about my so called life is the reason the ratings were low is because the only people with Nielsen boxes were geriatrics who had no interest in shows about 90s teens and endured reruns of the golden girls were some of the most profitable things airing.

>>212755664
yeah that's not true at all

>>212755343
>>212755366
You guys just aren't aware of where non-polarized millennials (the majority of millennials are apolitical/politically-cynical centrists), especially those of the creative variety hang out because while they're all online they keep a low online profile.
Trust me though, Escape Simulator custom maps is one place, especially the collabs.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y6PPd2aSOs&t=3420
Inability to create in legacy mediums like movies or mainstream video games means most have just absconded to obscure digital spaces, since you can make video game worlds according to your heart's desire.
Podcasts are another digital space that sane millennials and Gen Xers are. None of the mainstream ones so you won't find them without me telling you. And certain blogs and forums too.

>>212749107 (OP)
Lol, it wasn’t “random”, it was exceptional for the time
People say the same thing when talking about Pete & Pete, it wasn’t a normal 90’s show, it was exceptional, and it wasn’t appreciated by normies at all

>>212755833
Cool!

>>212755833

Little bro, the current generations (whatever they want to call and reinvent themselves as) change their mind about shit every time they watch the latest tiktok or stream. Their opinion isn't worth shit and it's changing depends on the whims of influencers. All the content they've created thus far has been entirely disposable and has no staying power whatsoever. This will only increase as AI kicks into high gear and the world is flooded with shit content in perpetuity.

>>212755384
is that why rayanne is always hungry?

>>212755833
Wonder if we are ever going to get a "passing of the torch" in the near future
Even normies are getting aware that all of legacy media is pushing some sort of lame social commentary/political activism and it has gotten beyond stale after 15 years of non-stop propaganda
Problem is, tumblr millennials have gotten full control of the creative side of any medium you can think of, tv, movies, comics, video games, etc. and accusing people with fresh ideas of being [buzzwords] to maintain their power has been incredibly effective

I hate watched the show when it aired, on e I realized how crappy it was in desperate hopes it would get better like 90210 did.

Claire's character was a simp, Leto's character was a retarded himbo, and the other two make leads were another simp who dumped for Claire and hated that Claire dumped for Leto, and a mystery meat gay teen.

It infamously has no ending and ironically was entirely puffed up by Entertainment Weekly the same way Party of Five was TV Guide's pet project they shilled.

>>212756292
see, not just zoomers are morons

>>212756050
>All the content they've created thus far has been entirely disposable and has no staying power whatsoever.
Nigger most of us aren't even 30 and we're all even poorer than you guys. You guys are well over 40 and haven't contributed to anything substantial or positive.
>"b-but muh vidya"
Vidya. Isn't. Art.

>>212756270
A passing of the torch won't happen until we get a WW1 tier apocalypse tier social upheaval.

911 kicked off the fourth and final turning but the elites know that when the fourth turning ends, they are FUBARed and a new dawn/status quo for the world will be in place ala post WW1. Society as we know it is stagnated to the point of entropy but, but fixing it will mean bringing forth a new world that destroys the old one and too many people will get fucked when it happens.

>>212755664
Yep, was there

>>212755938
My so called life swept the Emmy’s that year, but it was before they were televised so no one cared. Can’t remember if Pete & Pete got any Emmy’s cause I didn’t know they existed at that time

>>212752907
Mr Belvedere I remember watching this as a tike. Good show.

>>212756050
All

Social

Media

“Engagement”

Is

Third

Worlders.

Social media is not an accurate representation of literally anything

>>212756044
>>212756050
I don't even know what you guys are coping/talking about.
My point is, the ethos of the '80s and '90s are still very much alive in the minds of Gen Xers and millennials.
They disproportionately populate certain digital spaces.
Private piracy forums are another where they hang out.
Who else would be as obsessed in archiving/digitizing the Sesame Street backlogs or children's books from the '60s-'90s?
But it's ok if you disagree, only a millennial will recognize and appreciate another's values anyway.
>>212756270
Probably only has producers in currently existing legacy media. Like a Roddenberry-type figure who provides a central vision, but not as the sole executor.
But if a new free and open medium is created, then they'll all suddenly come rushing back.
Public access TV, early youtube, etc.
But yea the lowest barrier of entry right now are video game custom maps.
Also a lot of millennials are retreating from the internet altogether, and going back to local clubs, books, irl hobbies.

>>212756688
What do you even mean by “legacy media?” For I assure you, literally no one else has any idea what you think it means.

>>212752986
>>212753154
you could tell the wall was already coming for her in Terminator 3

>>212756743
How do you not know what legacy media is. Now I know you're a zoomer.
Physically published books, radio, broadcast television, and digitally distributed movies/tv shows that involve people physically pitching an idea to a producer/execs are examples of legacy media.
Open, self-publishing spaces are non-legacy media where 99% of millennial creatives upload their work. Most of the internet.

>>212757029
Oh and much of the internet is also becoming legacy media as they're increasingly controlled by a smaller handful of companies.
Often what separates legacy media from new media is the share of it under the control of conglomerates or a small handful of people:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_media
And conversely a lot of the old media spaces where conglomerates have relinquished control due to lack of profits have or will be resettled by millennials, like books.

>>212756688
I wasnt being facetious. I think its cool that millennial artists/neutrals have found these secret internet projects. And yah, I would be surprised if millennial take the lead in the great internet depopulation.

>>212757029
A: you’re talking to someone older than you
B: “legacy media” would be media that left a legacy, not entire forms of media. Friends is legacy media because its legacy continues. Same with the office. Shit that’s two sitcoms… but I can’t really think of media that has maintained appreciation levels. No, the sopranos doesn’t count. The most viewed media on streaming platforms is old sitcoms.

>>212756610
>My so called life swept the Emmy’s that year
it had 4 nominations and 0 wins
the fuck is with this weird larper itt?

>>212752907
>I heard Belvedere was riding the hershey highway

>>212757258
>It's a George realizes the Masons are satanic episode

>>212757178
>A: you’re talking to someone older than you
Boomers and older gen Xers past a cutoff point are idiots.
>B: “legacy media” would be media that left a legacy, not entire forms of media
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_media
You're older than me, on a /tv/ board, and you've never heard of the term of art "legacy media".
Okay boomer.
Media is the plural of medium. We're not talking about specific shows but the MEDIUM aka the distribution method.
The crux is whether the distribution method is centralized or decentralized.
Syndicated TV shows like you mentioned are entirely centralized. The companies fund and own the property, not the creators.
Legacy media is centralized. Non-legacy media is decentralized, for instance someone uploading their artwork to deviantArt but retaining full ownership of their artwork is an example of new media.
The internet as a whole used to be decentralized and so could as a whole be considered new media, but now that a handful of companies own the majority of websites hosts, digital distribution methods, and social media the internet itself has become a centralized legacy medium.
Millennials exist in niches and the periphery.

>>212757455
Legacy and old are not synonyms, rajeet

>>212757245
I don’t know, why are you in this thread? No one is trolled.

>>212757573
lmao at your iq
The term "legacy media" has been an established term for decades.
Is this your first day on the internet Jeetgramps?
Did you miss the entire cassette tape/VHS/floppy disk/minidisc/compact disk.
Even at the time of VHS people were already calling books legacy media.
Zzzzz when did 4chan get populated by all these turd-worlders accusing others of being turdworlders.
Even if you're physically white I hereby revoke it and you're spiritually brown to me.

>>212749107 (OP)
it does verge on cheesy occasionally, like the episode with the substitute teacher, but not enough to ruin it

>>212756688
>Also a lot of millennials are retreating from the internet altogether, and going back to local clubs, books, irl hobbies.
Some zoomers too. You're going to think I'm bullshitting and that's fine because I wouldn't believe it either, but I have a nephew in high school and a bunch of guys at his school started talking to each other on CB radios last year. Just because it's kind of weird and different.

>>212757790
Old things that leave legacies are rare, rajeet.

>>212758233
Thats so fucking cool. And it kinda makes sense. Millenials flocked to the internet because it was different, weird, and rebellious(?)/secret. Now its the most popular medium, it makes sense for people to move away from it. I wont be surprised if written letters make a comeback. More private than anything online.

>>212758510
Impermanence and lack of automated moderation are also factors for why newer generations would reject the Internet. Which is a documented phenomenon in mmos.

>>212752031
They're separated, not divorced

>>212758233
>I have a nephew in high school and a bunch of guys at his school started talking to each other on CB radios last year
Based Radio KAOS enthusiast

>>212758367
>Old things that leave legacies are rare
Yea you're case study #1
Boom, gott'em
I almost feel sorry for bullying the elderly but remember you started it calling others ESL with your own limited vocabulary.

>>212749107 (OP)
Claire Danes is probably the best actress of her generation. You're in for a treat.

>>212754259
i never heard of this show before. im in my mid 30s. i never saw it as a kid, no one ever talked about it. i watched a lot of tv. i caught everything and right here right now is the very first time im hearing about this show.

to further push my point, i collect old tv shows and watch old tv shows and ive NEVER heard of this show before

>>212759551
no one cares what you think about anything.

>>212759801
So your ignorance is proof of what exactly?
Should all information in the world be gauged by your ignorance of it?

>>212759801
ignore him, he's probably a boomer with dementia, he's been making weird easily disprovable claims all over this thread

>>212751113
um what the heck?

>>212759801
>im in my mid 30s
so not a teenager in the 90s, which makes you irrelevant to this discussion.

>>212750673
It can always come back, it came from nothing in the first place
Trump actually has the balls and the opportunity to sort it out - whether he has the idea or the will is another question, but he COULD do some of the following:
>cut copyright period down to five years
>break up studios on antitrust grounds
>IRS to investigate "Hollywood accounting"
>Justice dept. to investigate union strongarm tactics, also drugs, prostitution, etc
>SEC to investigate too, why not
>gov't inquiry into historical and present left-wing control of Hollywood, blacklisting of normal people
Smash the existing studios and leave it so the only way to make money is by putting asses in theatre seats

>>212755833
I agree but
>podcasts
Where are the podcasts that evince any creativity at all? They're all just half-arsed chat shows

('member when iphones and pirate protools was going to lead to an explosion in video/audio creativity?)

>>212760716
the long and short of his mostly ignorant rambling is that "new media" doesn't' need to be better than the best of what he means to call "old media," but just better than the worst, which is not a high bar. The problem with his arguments is that media that has actually left a legacy is still appreciated by the younger generations.

>>212749107 (OP)
If you post the picture of Claire in a bikini on the beach you will get banned for CP. this is /tv/ in present day

>>212760795
I didn't read the whole thing
I take your point, but being au courant has appeal too: tastes change, and "legacy media" (in your formulation) can easily die off and be forgotten - how many of these kids these days are reading Shakespeare? Or listening to Gilbert and Sullivan?

>>212760568
>not a teenager in the 90s
Seeing Milennials trying to claim "90s culture" is one of the msot annoying and deeply engrained tendencies of that generation. Gen-X were teens and 20 somethings in that decade and defined the youth culture of it. It's like Zoomers that try to claim the early 00s when that was the time of the Milennials and we were little kids.

>>212760569

>it can come back

bro the AI is going to steamroll everything within a year or two. there's not going to anything to come back to

>>212761122
People are already sick and fucking tired of your AI jeetslop clogging up everything it touches.

>>212754020
I get the feeling music clearances were cheaper back in the day as they didn't have to secure clearances for video/streaming/whatever.

Though it leads to some older shows being unwatchable as the syndicated version removes the licensed music and replaces it with horseshit muzak. WKRP in Cincinatti is notorious for this.

>>212754883
Its because it was a partnership between United Television and Paramount. Each partner supplied half the shows and one of them was going after the black audience Fox had abandoned while the other one was trying to be a Spike TV prototype.

>>212754667
Late At Night?

>>212761103
anon, my young friend, you "grew up" in the period you were a teenager.

>>212751033
Just awkward. And I see how bad shit is now.

IIRC it came on Sundays, and Sundays were always the end of the weekend where I was anxious about going back to school and starting the week.

>>212753867
Week of Sept1–7, 1994
•My So-Called Life premiered averaging about 8.7 household rating / ~19 share, placing it around #44 for the week—well below top performers like Home Improvement (17.6rating), Seinfeld (14.9), Frasier (15.0) and Roseanne (14.5)

Week of Oct3–9, 1994
•It dropped further to #83 on the weekly chart, substantially trailing NBC’s hits Mad About You (#17, 14.1) and Friends (#19, 13.6). ABC’s lineup overall ranked third that week, while CBS and NBC had stronger collective ratings

>>212763183
>mad about you

now that is an actual example of a random 90s show, because its completely forgotten.

>>212756270
We've already had the passing of the torch. All the SJW/DEI shit is from GenX getting phased out of the writer's room for millenials.

>>212756610
>Before they were televised.
>Thinking the television awards weren't televised.

Holy fuck Zoomers are retarded. TV networks loved running awards shows because they were dirt cheap to produce and got huge ratings.

>>212763908
no one is trolled bro

>>212760569
Why would a con artist who only cares about bilking money and being a pawn of the Heritage Foundation care about any of that?

Kim Jong Un could also dissolve North Korea and unify it with South Korea, but that's never gonna happen.

>>212763243
I mostly remember it as the show you had to sit through before Friends.

>>212762589
yeah, that's a different buffalo tom song on the cd

>>212761122
AI is terrible
Creative people don't need it and it doesn't offset the bad taste of plebs
It's the same argument that iphones were going to lead to a filmmaking renaissance - "We're knocking down barriers!" - turns out there is no undiscovered reservoir of pleb talent

>>212764106
Accepting your (retarded) premise: because he'd be taking money and power from his enemies, which he could give to his friends

>>212765426
gonna quote this back at you in a year or two

>>212749107 (OP)
jews really gushed over this trash at the time, it was the sopranos of it's day

>>212765482
Please do
Bear in mind that AI's been around for years, and so have cameraphones, ProTools, drum machines...
The argument is already over and I already won - but sure, just me wait, this time it'll be different, this time technology will uncork the very-well-hidden creativity of nerds and plebs

>>212766460
You're a moron and there's no point in communicating with you.
I feel sorry for people that can't imagine and extrapolate future events.
I bet watching a chess game is like magic to you and you get shocked and surprised every time you watch a blockbuster movie.
Can you even imagine what might happen tomorrow? Or does the future simply not exist for you?

>>212753307
>>212753544
It was far more popular than expected and was going to be renewed, it was cancelled because Danes didn't want to do it. They thought about doing it without her but realised it was pointless.

>>212753544
>it was never a hit and only became a cult classic once the internet took off
>jfc zoomers have no concept of what the world was like pre-social media
And it had a huge letter writing campaign in response to not renewing, you have literally no idea what you are talking about, you're just making shit up based on nothing and somehow think you're informed

>>212752476
Fucking hell

>>212751113
giwtwm

>>212767392
>>212767431
>It was far more popular than expected
no, it literally wasn't, the ratings are all online, you can look at them
>They thought about doing it without her but realised it was pointless.
no, they didn't, she was contracted and didn't have the power to walk out, but the showrunner loved her and claire not wanting to do it killed her enthusiasm for a second season, even holtzman admits the network just used danes wanting out as an excuse because the ratings just weren't good enough to support it
>And it had a huge letter writing campaign in response to not renewing
no, it didn't, it had a letter writing campaign, not a huge one
i'm so bored of zoomers reading a fucking wiki page and being too retarded to understand what it says and coming out with all this bullshit
how fucking pathetic is your life that you need to larp as a millennial?

>>212760716
>Where are the podcasts that evince any creativity at all?
There's too many to count. The podcast world actually experienced multiple creative wellsprings since their initial popularity, but they all sort of burnt and fizzled out.
The revival of radio drama was one such revolution. Sites like radio drama revival, the sonic society etc, audiodramatalk (before it closed down), compiled no fewer than a hundred different radio drama theatre companies of people (mainly boomers but a lot of gen X and millennials too) reviving and continuing the legacy of the golden age of radio drama or Old Time Radio (OTR, 1920s to 1950s), horror, scifi, and mystery shows.
Only nonwhite, nonmillennial people like that other guy larping as older than me don't know about OTR, A Prairie Home Companion, etc. You have groups that release original fiction in non-radio drama format too like Escape Artists, The District of Wonders, and Drabblecast.
And a lot of podcasts where Gen Xers and millennials reminisce about the '80s and '90s in between their podcast topics.

>>212760795
>>212759814
You have no idea what you're talking about, but you're not white or a millennial, caught up on basic terms like "legacy media" literally everyone except tech-illiterate ESLs would understand (another widely used term is legacy formats which denotes formats that are essentially deprecated, so even a passing understanding of technology that every millennial would have would know what is meant by that) so I'm not going to bother educating you. No one uses the term "old media" you ficking idiot because it's non-specific and can be conflated to mean "media that is old" which is not the definition. You brought this buklying on yourself, jeetgramps. Maybe stick to the hindi side of the internet next time and stop larping.

>>212757258
>The guy was fucking 5 star fag!

This thread sucks now.

>>212766517
>You're a moron and there's no point in communicating with you.
Why did you write four more sentences
>Can you even imagine what might happen tomorrow? Or does the future simply not exist for you?
Does the past exist for you? Did you even understand what I wrote?
Or are you just a moron, and there's no point in communicating with you?

>>212768022
Not sure I follow your point. Just because I can download the Jack Benny show doesn't mean there are good podcasts; my point is, where is the modern Jack Benny show? Where are the people who might have liked to write and act on television or radio, but who, being boxed out for one reason or another, turn to the internet and unleash their tremendous creativity?
Name one good radio sitcom produced independently in the last five years