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>“Domestically, ‘Superman’ stuck the landing, but international numbers are disappointing,” says box office analyst Jeff Bock of Exhibitor Relations of the $95 million overseas haul. “For ‘Superman’ to be one of the biggest summer blockbusters — not to mention reset an entire universe — the film needed to pack more punch in its debut. Obviously, the following weeks will tell the true box office tale, but this has to be viewed as a slightly underwhelming start for DC and WB.”
>The film cost $225 million and another $125 million to market globally, the latter including pricey stunts like a Superman figure hovering at the apex of London’s tallest building, The Shard, on July 1. One rival studio executive estimated that the Shard gambit alone cost seven figures. Warners always believed that Superman would under-index internationally because the titular hero is inextricably linked with “the American way.”
>Typically, a film’s stars earn the top salaries. But in this case, Gunn was by far the highest earner, pulling down 20 times more than David Corenswet (Superman/Clark Kent) and Rachel Brosnahan (Lois Lane), who each earned $750,000 to Gunn’s $15 million, according to sources (Gunn also draws a seven-figure salary as the studio’s top executive).
>Although Warner Bros. has sequel options on Corenswet and Brosnahan, a sequel announcement does not appear to be imminent. Instead, sources say the studio is fast-tracking a “Wonder Woman” movie. And the studio is thrilled with Matt Reeves’ just-submitted screenplay draft for the sequel to “The Batman.”
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/superman-success-budget-cast-salaries-1236462393/
So basically they lost faith on the new Superman and are now counting on Batman and Wonder Woman.
The movie was also just an excuse for Gunn to make some money, for himself.
>underperformed man of steel
>stuck the landing
>the top 3 billed actors got $4m combined
>Gunn gets $15m + $1m minimum
also I wonder how Corenswet feels knowing the studio spent more putting a dummy of him on top of a building in London than his salary for the film lmao
>>212782263 (OP)>Although Warner Bros. has sequel options on Corenswet and Brosnahan, a sequel announcement does not appear to be imminent. Instead, sources say the studio is fast-tracking a “Wonder Woman” movieFucking retards. The only DCU projects that should exist are Superman, and Superman 2 in preproduction. Peacemaker, Lanterns, Clayface, and Supergirl might as well be throwing money into the toilet. Also WW is massively overvalued. The first movie was Black Panther for women and it shant be repeated.
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>I-its a box office bomb, honest you guys! Look at this, after hours of research I finally found this one article saying it could've done better overseas! Ha ha "COULD'VE DONE BETTER OVERSEAS!!!" So that means it's a failure, right guys?
>G-guys?
I never realized how utterly pathetic Snyderjeets were until these last couple of weeks. They're so crazily desperate for some schadenfreude to validate their shitty taste that they've reduced themselves to a cringeworthy joke.
A sad end for Snydertrash.
Good. Hopefully the movie industry will stop trying to appeal to foreigners and focus on making good movies for the only country that matters.
>>212783282yeah well, that's indians for you
Rest of the world does not matter even to the rest of the world. The only reason we do not demand the planet be called America is we like standing apart from you left behind mud creatures.
>>212783364But isn't Superman doing super well in India right now?
>>212782673>Peacemaker, Lanterns, Clayface, and SupergirlPeacemaker and Clayface work really well as lower budget projects that can lean more into their satire and horror respectively. Clayface in particular is probably awardbait that's intended to trade money for prestige for the brand.
>Also WW is massively overvalued.Agree with this. Supergirl can at least be attached to Superman. Wonder Woman is a boring character and her lore is boring Greek fanfiction. But they gotta do her movie if they're gonna make a Justice League.
>>212783282They're bad people. They deserve this.
>>212783282It bombed overseas, anon.
>>212783415>But they gotta do her movie if they're gonna make a Justice League.They're fast tracking her movie because they think the previous one did so well and are copying with the idea that Superman bombed internationally because Superman is too "American", so they hope that Wonder Woman can be more accepted internationally.
>>212783282Just ignore them
They're like vermin, if you feed them they keep coming back
>>212782263 (OP)>Gunn’s $15 millionJesus
the dot head snyder guys are shitting on Indians in a way only Indians can shit, and it is wonderful.
>>212782263 (OP)r/boxoffice is coping that they’ll merge The Batman but this flopping internationally killed any chance of that. Superman is radioactive and only serves to hurt The Batman franchise instead of uplifting it.
>>212782263 (OP)good morning chatgpt sir
>>212782263 (OP)Good thing Reeves now holds the cards and can tell Gunn to fuck off with merging his Batman
>>212783282Your a retard if you think Superman underperforming internationally is a good thing. Superman underperforming is forcing Warner bros to fast track a Wonder Woman film to get there DC trinity billion dollar film out as fast as possible and forcing Reeves Batman in the DCU.Gunn fucking failed. If his Superman was a hit they wouldn't be doing that. They could just rely on his Superman to sale tickets. Warner bros is basically doing the same micromanagement shit that killed the Snyderverse. So yes Superman was a flop because Gunn didn't deliver on the box office and now they are getting worried and forcing him to change his slate.
>>212783464you chingchongs, jeets, and ruskies do not matter. How do you not understand this?
>>212783776see how little you matter? The retard is YOU. Full steam ahead without you.
>>212783858>>212783888You Gunnshills are retarded can't even read between the lines. Why the fuck would they fast track a Wonder Woman film if Superman was a box office hit? It fucking flopped and now they are forced to intervene and bring in Wonder woman to get that billion dollars they wanted for Superman. Superman was a flop.
>>212783776I mean, isn't underperforming why people have gone for years claiming that BvS was a bomb?
>>212783776You hit the nail on the head. Gunn should’ve focused on making ONE good Superman movie adjacent to The Batman. And then you go from there. All these side projects especially the TV shows are pure phase 5 mcu slop.
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>>212784111Why would you make up shit that is not there (read between the lines) when the figures are dictating that this is making money? That s why further projects are in the works. DIpshit.
>>212784706>define Superman 2fair comment considering there are several versions
>>212782263 (OP)Instead, sources say the studio is fast-tracking a “Wonder Woman” movie. And the studio is thrilled with Matt Reeves’ just-submitted screenplay draft for the sequel to “The Batman.”
BvS 2: Electric Boogaloo inbound.
>>212783410It is.
I am Indian as we are Krypton and the West is Earth.
We go to the West like Superman and we must be Superheroes to save the West.
It is our duty as Indians.
>>212782393Gunn saw the writing on the wall and wanted off the ride before they get his contract pushed onto some other project and if he is signed on he wants them to offer him to get off it before he makes another stinker.400 million and it's still sitting at 223 since opening weekend. No one wants to see this thing, even if it pisses off the jews.
That's how bad it is!
>>212784706The only way to actually “build” the brand is to make a Superman 2 and see if it fares any better. It’s going to just break even. Make no mistake there isn’t a single character in the DCU that will make more money than Superman. Supergirl is already projected to make less, what makes Wonder Woman any different? The current product is unsustainable. You need an existing international audience. If Supergirl flops then what.
>>212783282>hours of research>this one articleIt's Variety. The biggest and most important industry publication.
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How long until gunnfags turn on Matt Reeves?
>>212784988Mmhm even if it had a miraculous 40% drop on its second week, that would still mean it'll barely get near 400million. Then on its third week with F4, a 60+ drop is guaranteed. Everyone is going to jump ship once they see the third week. WB is legit retarded for putting Gunn in charge when The Suicide Squad did so fucking poorly
>>212785168Yeah the problem isn’t the second week, given the weekday holds it’ll be fine. But when F4 rolls around that’ll be a drastic drop leading to total death. Can someone do the leg math?
>>212782393Idiot. This was the plan from the start. Why he put out a Supegirl movie before Superman was even released. Along with what’s going to happen in next season of Peacmaker. He’s building his Guardians of the Galaxy.
>>212785316It did 220million first week. If it has a 50% drop, that'll be 330million on its second week. After that, with F4, let's say its only a 50% drop from the 110million it did on its second week, that's 55million. Putting it at 385million on its first three weeks and that's being generous. If its in theaters for 2 months, and those remaining 5 weeks it makes 200 million then that puts it at 585 million which is a lot of the predictions that have been coming out. Even MoS did more than that.
>>212783282>>212783364>>212783439>>212783523>JUST IGNORE THEM>IT'S OKAY, EVERYTHING IS FINE>IT'S NOT A BOMB, WE'RE PUNKROCKERS>SNYDERSNYDERSNYDER
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>>212783829>you chingchongs, jeets, and ruskies do not matter>jeetsIt outperformed MoS in India LMAO
They fast tracked Supergirl before Superman even came out. That must mean it’s a flop
>>212783282>hours of researchhttps://comicbookmovie.com/superman/supermans-lower-than-expected-international-box-office-haul-could-be-a-big-problem-in-the-long-run-a222766
Found another article in 5 seconds of googling that says it's doing bad internationally
Dry your eyes bitch boy, gunnpedos lost.
BTW, you idiots act like Wonder Woman is some guaranteed box office saver. First did well solely off Chris Pine and ‘84 was a disaster. Another brand Gunn has to now salvage
>>212785627>calling them snyderjeets was projection all along>gunnpedos are the real indiansKWAB
>>212785747you think WB would still stick with Gal or would they honestly attempt a reboot there?
She might as well join the DC reboot cycle at this point too. Aquaman as well.
>>212785747>Aquaman did gangbusters in the first one, eats shit on the second one>Same for Wonder Woman>Same for Suicide Squad>Flash was a dumpster fire>Green Lanterns still havent recovered from Ryan Reynolds and are just now getting pulled from the freezer>We've had 3 Batmans in like 20 years>Superman hasn't been a box office draw since the 70sDC should just stick to animated and CW tier shows
>>212785816Momoa is playing Lobo now
>>212785844>Superman hasn't been a box office draw since the 70sMoS did great for 2013 numbers
>>212785535It’s the difference between coming closer to 500m and 600m. Or both weekend 2 and 3 have bad drops and it miraculously gets below 500m.
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>>212785816No idea. But this cope they fast tracked WW because of international box office is a joke. WW would be last one they’d want. Just one removing “American Way” doesn’t fool anyone Superman reps America, removing WWs star spangled costume isn’t going to fool anyone eirher
>>212785930>Or both weekend 2 and 3 have bad dropsSuperhero movies always drop hard the second weekend. Superman needs a miracle for 500m, especially since the next capeshit movie is right around the corner. Superman doesn't have the word of mouth to overpower that one. Most of my friends say 5/10
>>212782263 (OP)If it has been so successful, then how come there isn't a single decent CAM release of it yet?
>>212782263 (OP)I get that when you're past 30 and still a small-time actor you may grow a little desperate... but offering someone 750k for playing the fucking Superman is genuinely disrespectful.
What kind of a reddit shit is that?
>>212782263 (OP)Yeah, no shit. There was a charm to Superman being an American hero. If you give him "global" sensibilities and jeet CGI you immediately lose the quality and appeal of real American hero/production. They should have burned local before widening the scope. They probably really only care about mass market appeal to sell their toys to kids and manchildren far and wide, though.
>>212786226because no one likes you and sends you good links.
>>212785627>UK minus 45%based Cavill loyalists
>>212785627So the only hardcore fans for this movie are Brazilians and Indians?
>>212785627I literally shat myself out of anger, good thing I was near a street.
>>212786600You want Superman to answer to the White House?
I do not care for Gunn's edgy subversive takes on the superhero genre. Its like he can't allow superheroes to be earnest and good. There must be a flaw and vulnerability to it. Almost how Snyder injects realism with religious undertones, Gunn injects ironic and edgy takes on to them. Giving him a character like Superman that is established to represent certain things and have him put his ironic edgy 14 humor to it was a mistake. Even the Justicr League cartoons made for children have more maturity.
>>212786751This is Gunn's least edgy film to date. All of his usual shit is channeled to Guy Gardner instead, complete with the middle finger constructs flipping off tanks.
>>212786798Gunn is always good at making characters different. that just happens to mean there is always one character who takes the mandatory crass douche role.
only in Guardians and Peacemaker is that guy also the main character.
>>212786742I want Superman to defend Israel, only then will he really relate to his American identity.
>Either there's a mistake or the official reports just came in, Superman (2025) has grossed $156.9 mil internationally, with China leading with $35,800,000, or 257,008,138 yuan, weirdly with 0 opening weekend & maximum screens (even though opened on same date), & theatrical engagements, as of 7/16/25
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>>212783474> They're fast tracking her movie because they think the previous one did so well and are copying with the idea that Superman bombed internationally because Superman is too "American", so they hope that Wonder Woman can be more accepted internationally.Gunn was talking about WW before Superman was even released. If it was bombing like you idiots claim, they wouldn’t do a solo WW movie. They’d wait and see how Supergirl would do. And WW be last character you’d pick if trying to ton American aspect down. Her iconic costume is star spangled banner and her symbol is the American bald eagle
>>212786303>offering someone 750k for playingI'd expect to walk away with at least a million or 1.5m after taxes for a major franchise level film. Studio is going to counter with FU unknown new guy and how even RDJ was paid a reported 500k for the first Iron Man.
If the film is a hit you make way more in the future.
>>212786798The harem joke was edgy
I feel like I am the last sane person left. That 95 million is from the opening. International is not daily. I'm about to blow my fucking brains out.
>>212786798Least edgy, but still edgy. See Jor El.
>>212786958>they wouldn’t do a solo WW movie.>soloSo naive.
>>212782263 (OP)The cape bows to Big Dino Cock.
>>212786742I don't even want them to be dealing with American or global politics yet. That's boring and an MCU thing that viewers clearly want a cool off period from.
>>212786904They fucked up the data. It’s at 250m ww. China is at 8m.
>>212782263 (OP)>America's aggressive and obnoxious foreign policies have pissed off numerous populations from foreign nations - not to mention their now openly subservient/blackmailed golem status>The most quintessential American superhero fails in foreign box officesGee this is a complete surprise. In other mysterious news, why is the American tourism industry on it's knees?
>>212786904>>212787144The China 35m is from F1. Looks like they mixed up the data.
>>212787163Post tits or gtfo
>>212787163You mean the movie that was too embarrassed by the American Way slogan?
>>212787218post tits or GTFO. stop replying to yourself.
>>212787096To be fair, Superman was *literally* political from day 1. He's a champion and a paragon because he's dealing with these issues.
>>212782263 (OP)I think the movie did what it needed to do, be well received and a moderate hit, does that mean this new DCU cinematic universe is going to be like peak Marvel was? No it won't, people are done with this whole cinematic universe shit, only way this can be reliable is if they keep the budgets way way down but I doubt they'll get billion dollar hits at all, if ever
Only capeshit I see hitting a billion in the upcoming years are the Avengers movies because they're filled with memberberries and RDJ returning, and even then they will still make LESS than both Infinity War and Endgame
I think making a cinematic universe in 2025 is the wrong way to approach this garbage, not like James Gunn really gives a shit as he wasn't into playing ball with Marvel during peak capeshit years, I think all he cares about is his own shows and movies and getting a fat paycheck, but once he actually gets down to running the franchise like Feige did he will probably leave
>>212785627>Brazil +47.5%Oh so that's where all the retarded ESL posts about Superman making kindness punk again keep coming from
>>212787284i said stop replying to yourself, slut. post your tits. no one cares about this fake discussion.
The Gunnverse is probably in decent shape as long as Gunn doesn't direct anymore (and they find another cinematographer). He's a darling of like 50 people on the internet and thousands of bots but that doesn't always translate to the box office. That's why he only did 3 Guardians movies and was shown the door instead of taking on bigger projects like an Avengers movie
>>212787163I don’t think you realize how goofy that sounds. The movie just didn’t look good. Other counties don’t consoom as much and aren’t getting astroturfed into believing it’s a must watch.
>>212787213Post nose or gtf, you sewer-dwelling pedo list hider
>>212787218I didn't even know that was a thing in this one desu. Should have just went full on and said "Chosen People's way". That'll be the next iteration from (((Hollywood))).
>>212782263 (OP)Why did Gunn lose the european market?
>Supergirl flops
>DCU silently gets pulled
>Battinson for the next 10 years
>Snyderverse Kingdom Come movie
Sounds about right
>>212787403Yeah, i find it really weird this coping about "Oh, Superman is too American and America isn't doing too hot right now," this from a movie where all the producers, the director, and the actors were complaining about Superman saying "American way of life" as a motto. Or saying that the movie was, yes, political. Or pro immigrants. Or whatever.
>>212787391Does it not look good? I wouldn't know. I didn't even watch the trailers desu as capeshit is for faggots and goyslop fans.
>>212787452Too many Snyder fanboys there. Both from actual Europeans as well the crazy Muslims. Muslims love the Snyderverse bullshit. Which is ironic given the 9/11 vibes.
>>212783829If your name isn't Force Awakens or Endgame you need the international market to boost the box office revenue (and make post-theater deals for more revenue), 0 (Zero) Hollywood movies have grossed a billion without international, only 2 came anywhere close
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>>212787491>I didn't even watch the trailersExactly
>>212787452People are just done with capeshit, didn't notice yet?
>>212787469Kingdom Come is edgelord shit and will never be adapted.
>>212785032>Make no mistake there isn’t a single character in the DCU that will make more money than SupermanWe've known for a long time now that they're also doing a non-Reeves Batman movie.
Everybody’s talking about F4 but Smurfs will be the real Superman killer
they should've given fans what they want and given him starman song
>>212787811They spent all the rights money on doing that stunt on the London building
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>>212787315Best I can do is a picture of a wild rabbit that came by my window a few days back. I took a liking to him (her?), he seems to be living close-by.
>>212787538A solid 870m dollars for sure followed by a botched JL movie
All I know is 10 years from now people will be saying they should’ve stuck with Cavill
>>212786600international audiences don't give a shit how american superman is, it's the extended cast and 'muh politics' that no one has time for.
>>212787302He’s definitely pissy that The Batman is a thing, probably even moreso now since his movie didn’t beat it and reach a billy. He doesn’t want elseworld content, he just wants everything to be his DCU. Which is why MAWS isn’t renewed yet.
>>212782423>pre and post COVID doesn't exist
>>212785747Yeah, i'm not seeing Supergirl & WW take off either. The first WW narrowly avoided the beginning of a lot of bad creative changes for female action projects. One look at the creative team behind Supergirl already tells me everything i need to know.
>>212788731Yeah, inflation really hit big post-Covid, it's really incredible it can't beat MoS.
>>212788814>uhhhh it still should have done better!
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>>212788401Pure projection. Gunn has flat out said he would suck at handling Batman. Does Batman at all look like kind of character Gunn has ever been interested in. He’s deferent to Reeves to handle Batman and probably why Reeves hasn’t been replaced after ridiculous amount of time he’s taken to finish a script. Doubt Zaslov thrilled that taking this long
>>212788892MoS? Probably, it was a notable underperformance. Now imagine a movie failing to beat it 12 years later despite heavy infation.
>>212789123Totally.
Imagine, as well, a worldwide pandemic that directly affected the movie business to the point of almost killing it.
But no, I'm sure the, what, extra forty cents is the bigger fish.
>>212789190Explain Deadpool. Explain Spider-Man. Explain Minecraft. Explain...
>>212788401> He doesn’t want elseworld contentCan you blame him? Two Batmen at once sounds like a disaster to market
>>212789190Thank you for explaining this to the snyderjeets.
For some reason these monkeys don't know that there hasn't been a single movie that's made more than $400 million since 2018
>>212787163>why is the American tourism industry on it's knees?Is it really? Aren't they the most profitable country by tourist revenue and the 3rd most touristed country after France and Spain?
>>212789231>9 films crossed the billion dollar mark in 2019>names 3 post COVID
>>212782444>Corenswet was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.[4] He grew up in Lower Merion, a suburb of Philadelphia.[5] His father, John Corenswet, was from a Jewish family in New Orleans,[6][7][8] and worked as a stage actor in New York City for many years[4] before becoming a lawyer.[9] His mother is also a lawyer.[10] His maternal grandfather is the American author and creator of the Choose Your Own Adventure book series, Edward Packard.Fuck jewperman
>>212789340I could keep going. That's what the "..." was thee for.
>>212789330I think most US tourism is internal.
>>212782263 (OP)Who will play Wonder Woman? I can't lie I really hope it's not Gadot.
>>212788222Kino
>>212789123Imagine more people went to movies when tickets were 8 bucks compared to 16 bucks and shit costing a lot more. Crazy
>>212789340did you want him to name more? Barbie, Top Gun Maverick, Avatar Way of Water, Inside Out 2
>>212789376Oh okay.
Find me the year where there were 9 films that reached over a billion.
Coincidentally, after 2019, the year before COVID.
>>212789380Who accused you of being a thinker? Go to any toursit attraction and it is all gooks and more gooks.
>>212789380Those listings only count international tourism.
>>212789434I should add that since 2019, which had 9 films reach a billion in ONE YEAR, there's only been ten films reach a billion since 2020.
Was this due to inflation or COVID?
>>212789434>>212789568>>212789474What is even your point?
There has been other capeshit movies that made billions after Covid, so this whole Covid excuse is merely that... an excuse.
>>212782263 (OP)>including pricey stunts like a Superman figure hovering at the apex of London’s tallest building, The Shard, on July 1. One rival studio executive estimated that the Shard gambit alone cost seven figuresMoney well spent
>>212789607>What is your point? Nine in one > nine in five
2019 - no COVID
2020 - COVID
>>212789568probably just due to the movies being fucking shit
like Superman
>>212782263 (OP)Superman was never that popular with the non-americans to begin with. Sure, everybody knows who he is, but that's about it, he's just a brand.
>>212789607Which capeshit made billions. You mean Spider Man most popular capeshit character with bunch popular legacy character. You mean Deadpool-Wolverine, another popular legacy character team up
Reminder that the first Superman movie, the one made by Richard Donner, did better internationally than domestically. Not that it did badly domestically, mind you.
>>212789708You're talking about a Superman movie with the Justice League characters in it, just so you're self aware.
>>212789708Yep.
What made a billion pre-COVID?
>Captain Marvel >Aquaman Any legacy characters there?
Any brand recognition?
certain elements of the movie felt amateurish and cheap.
>>212789708Oh, i forgot that we are talking about Blue Beetle here.
>>212789783Yeah, both of them dipshit. Both are tied into extant movie storylines folks had already invested in, and both characters have existed for decades. One was a super friend, and the other has the name of the entire comic publisher. Can you make your point?
>>212789872I already have. And the fact that you're resorting to saying
>It wasn't COVID! Aquaman and Captain Marvel just had STAR POWER! makes me realize I'm even more right.
>>212784112BvS made money despite the entire media was against it, from paid critics and shill articles to Disney bots. And most of the criticism was shut up with the director's cut that sold gazillions. We dont' have home market anymore for the streaming so Superman had no other way to make money besides the box office. It's over fot Gunn unless he met WB execs on his pedo parties
>>212789776Do you know what legacy character is? Be like Superman with Bale’s Batman. That would make a billion. There’s reason why Disney forked out a fortune to bring Downey Jr back
>>212790100>Be like Superman with Bale’s Batman. That would make a billion.Sure it world, honey.
>>212785032I just saw it and I don't think we need a Superman 2 right away. This set up the world pretty well, we've got multiple other heroes and the beginnings of a Justice League. The scene of him talking to Lois while they fight the big glowing thing in the background without him set the tone pretty well for me. This is a world with Superman, and yeah he might turn up every now and again, but it's also full of other heroes, other villains, a bunch of other comic book stuff.
I'd rather see them take a swing at a few other standalone movies with a few Superman teamups and cameos, before setting up a big threat for Superman 2 to focus on.
>>212789330"Knees" is a tab hyperbolic but let's also not use invalid comparisons. Start with US year-on-year trending: WTTC confirm revenue was $181bn in 2014, with an original projection of +9% in international visitors in 2025. This is has been revised due to a YTD fall in demand... annual projection is now $169bn with Canadians especially showing a -20% drop in visitors. USA is now the only country (out 184 studied) with a projected reduction in international visitor spending. If your business and livelihood disproportionately revolves around these state based dwindling revenue streams, you won't care much about how France or Spain are doing.
>>212789924You have not. State your point you lamp rubbing goatfucker.
>>212790262Thank you for the data anon, I wasn't aware. I get why Canadians are pissed off at least and support their boycott.
>>212790325I literally already have. I'm not going to placate someone who can't read.
I gave my argument, repeated it, and I'm not doing it again.
>>212782263 (OP)This was never about making a profit, it was always about restoring the brand. Wonder Woman will be the hit we need after how critically successful Superman was
>>212789371>creator of the Choose Your Own Adventure book series, Edward Packard.what did he mean by this
>>212783282The movie bombed by 178 mil fucking Dumbo. Nobody is watching this shit. It has no legs.
>>212784706An autistic gay pedo. How new
>>212790437You have no argument. Yeah.
>>212786302Monkeys love jews
>>212786303It's literally his first a list role Dumbo. Nobody knows this fucking kike
>>212782263 (OP)>Ugly jew faggot loses money.Is there anything more satisfying than watching a jew lose money?
>>212782263 (OP)>a sequel announcement does not appear to be imminent. Instead, sources say the studio is fast-tracking a “Wonder Woman” moviewhy did they end the DCEU to do the exact same shit and same mistakes again
>>212790954You said those characters did not have history or a reason for their box office. I showed you how the did. What is your argument?
>>212782444>JewGunn jewing JewpermanThe game was rigged from the stawt, oy vey
>>212783282>47 replies from SEETHING SnydertrashHoly shit I am so fucking based. And I refuse to engage with any of you because you're all so far beneath me, like insects wriggling in shit.
You Snydercucks have proven yourselves to be highly autistic pathetic failures, obsessed with winning at all costs when you were born to lose. I fart in your faces and shit in your hair. Might I recommend that you consider suicide, because lord knows you fucking suck at life. Suck methane out of my asshole you little bitches.
>Wonderwoman and Supergirl are the key to all this...
>>212782263 (OP)>Warners always believed that Superman would under-index internationally because the titular hero is inextricably linked with “the American way.”This is so fucking dumb. As a result I fully believe it to be true, this is the kind of thing a WB executive believes.
>>212791149You sound asian. Are you asian? Be honest, I am testing something.
>>212783282>Gunn Jeets vs Snyder SirsSar restore Snyderverse Sar, it is quality film but unironically
>>212788731Is this the new cope? At the last shill zoom call I was in we were still workshopping a comeback for the "adjust for inflation thing".
>>212791097That they in fact didn't.
>>212791295>COVID did not have an effect on theaters
>>212789634lmao
I hope this actually did cost them a million dollars
>>212791383bro I just haven't got the updated anti-anti process charts yet, lay off
>>212791490Reality doesn't run on /tv/ references.
So is the movie good or naw?
>>212784706Yeah I got the impression from all the sequel hooks he threw out in this movie that the next film might not actually be a Superman film at all.
Keep in mind JIDF bots are going hard against this movie right now.
>>212791349One is tied into stories in play and named after the entire company that made said stories, and the other was a super friend and has been in childrens faces for decades. You are wrong. Eat your shit sandwich. You made it. Eat it.
>>212782393Have him be DCs Hulk. Just put him in other people’s movies.
>>212791740JIDF are poos, and poos love Snyder don't we sars
>>212790909Their golems turning against them.
Who gives a shit bunch foreign faggots don’t want to watch because butthurt over US and Trump which lives rent free in their heads. It’s doing great in US and now expected to make 60 million this weekend which be 48% drop. Compare to MOS’s 67%. That’s what rebuilding a brand looks like unlike Snyder The Brand Destroyer
>>212791765>N-no you're wrong! Please! Please God you're wrong! This is sad.
Anyways, if Aquaman could make a billion pre-COVID along with Captain Marvel, but only Wolverine and Spider-Man can do it after, it's the worldwide pandemic that shut down theaters which caused it.
Seeing as Captain Marvel was a totally new character and Aquaman was...lmao, fucking Aquaman.
>>212785627The marketing team has instructions to make every debate a false dichotomy, wherein you either like this film or you're a Marvel/MoS/Snyder fanboy.
It's very transparent.
Fuck you it is not flopping
>>212783282Snydercucks cannot fathom the thought of good WOM boosting sales beyond opening weekend
>>212793596They’re Snyder fans. They don’t know what good word of mouth is. They’re use to seeing his movies tanking after opening weekend
>>212783282reddit spacing, reddit cope
>>212793716Snyder fans aren't the one spamming my catalog at the behest of a multi-billion dollar megacorp. You're just going to make more of them if you keep up this hysterical episode.
>>212784325It's the same mistake that stunted the MCU. Too much stuff causing confusion and fatigue in the viewers
Superman versus One punch man
Lol Superman is flopping it will be lucky to make 400 million. You Gunnshills are idiots that will believe anything.
>>212794486It’s about to have a better second weekend then any Synder movie
>>212794273>pretending half of the threads aren't shitting on superman
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Has Snyder ever made a movie that didn’t tank after opening weekend?
>>212794624Watchmen's opening credits surpass all other capeshit
>>212794576Those are also shill threads, or anons unwittingly participating in the viral campaign. The point of adversarial marketing is to manufacture as much controversy as possible since it leads to higher visibility of the product. Technically I'm likely participating in this viral campaign too by engaging in these threads.
The Snyder threads are an attempt to manufacture a console war between two properties owned by the same company. Regardless of which side of this artificial dichotomy you fall on, Warner profits.
Warner does this more often and more effectively than any other corporation.
>>212792110Carrol Captian marvel has been around for decades and you are retarded.
>>212794987>Namor has been around for decades >Groot has been around for decades >Quicksilver has been around for decades Age does not mean influence.
A list characters can’t even make a billion on their own post Covid. Why Marvel using legacy character gimmick. Next Spider Man they’re bringing The Punisher. And of course Downey Jr coming back to play Dr Doom. DC doesn’t have any legacy character. They thought Keaton was but he hadn’t played Batman for forty years. Only one they got is Bale as Batman but he’s never coming back
They were shooting for a $1billion global so they have got to be disappointed. I'm not even sure this is going to clear $500 million total when all is said and done. It's tracking nowhere near what Batman vs Superman was.
Is it a bomb? No. But there is no way this is anywhere near what they hoped for internationally.
>>212795485>They were shooting for a $1billion global so they have got to be disappointed.Source: your headcanon. They were open about being happy with $500m and a positive audience reaction, both of which they are very clearly going to hit.
>>212795528>They were open about being happy with $500m and a positive audience reactionWell this is cope, and when all is said and done they are not even going to hit that. And that's not even a break even point. With the marketing budget it's got to be closer to $550-600 million.
>>212795485They fuck they were. The Batman didn’t even make a billion dollars. Only post Covid capeshit that’s made a billion is legacy character team up.
>>212795528> They were open about being happy with $500m and a positive audience reaction, both of which they are very clearly going to hit.Keep telling yourself that Gunnshill. By next week Fantastic Four will break Superman's legs and it flop to around maybe 380-435 but it won't hit 500 million.
>>212795636You keep saying legacy character team up. But the Superman movie is directed by the "visionary" James Gunn, it is about Superman and a dozen other superheroes.
>>212795193in the case of Captian Marvel, she was tied into a continuing narrative that had already generated several billion dollars. You are still retarded.
Superman is tracking worse than Captain America Brave New World internationally...
>>212795894yeah... and only America matters at all. The rest of the world are like an ex we ditched.
>>212795812You don’t even know what a legacy character is. Deadpool-Wolverine made a billion last year. It bought back Jackman as Wolverine, Snipes as Blade, Jennifer Gardner back as Elektra, Chris Evan’s back as Johnny Storm. Whole movie was legacy character jerk off fest. Last Spider Man brought back Maguire and Garfield, and Dafoe, Molina, Jamie Fox. Another legacy character jerk off fest
Was it really that difficult to make a movie that solely focused on Superman, didn't have so many characters and actually had breathing room between scenes, instead of shitty jokes and infodumps? It's baffling how much they fumbled the bag, the US is the only region that is blinded by the hype
>>212796076So? Weren't they actors from franchises that failed to bring money and that was why their franchises were rebooted?
So what you're essentially telling me here is... if Gunn wanted this to make money, he should have brought old actors like... Henry Cavill? Amy Adams? Ben Affleck?
>>212796124India is the only mud hole with nothing better to do than try and defeat fucking superman. You are not going to do it. You are brown and weak from poor hygiene and diet.
>>212796124The modern capeshit industry is incapable of making a story about a single man and his personal journey, because it is filled with hacks.
>>212796267daredevil destroys your waste of typing.
>>212796189> So? Weren't they actors from franchises that failed to bring money and that was why their franchises were rebooted?Jesus
>>212796398Tobey's Spider-Man was rebooted after the third movie proved to be a disappointment. There were plans at the time for a fourth movie.
Garfield's Spider-Man couldn't even complete its trilogy, and Sony at the time had this huge expansive plan for their movies.
The old Spider-Man were leased to the MCU because their past attempts were eventually met with failures.
These are the facts.
>>212796267People are bored of that shit with characters that have had multiple sequels and reboots.
>>212796203India, Brazil and the US are pretty much carrying this movie alone.
>>212796481no... mcu and sony have a deal worked out to share conditional licences for the character of spiderman, but sony made those movies and decisions. MCU only is responsibe for spiderman as he appears in their films.
>>212782263 (OP)Trump attacking other countries is hurting movies.
>>212796481Spider Man 3 made 891 million dollars. Which by your muh adjusted for inflation would well over a billion today. Amazing Spider Man 2 made 708 million which would be well over a billion today.
>>212796522the US alone will make it profitable. The rest of you are sprinkles .
>>212796316>tv showI don't keep track of capeshit TV shows, bro.
I'm not gonna spend more than 2 hours if I watch this shit at all.
>>212796591tarrifs will way more than cover any of those half truths. Suck eagle dick.
>>212796613yes... you fail to acknowledge anything that counters your bullshit statements. Correct. How big of a whore is your mother if you think I am your bro?
>>212785527>Why he put out a Supegirl movie before Superman was even released?
>>212796764Everyone thinking next time we see Superman going to be some Justice League thing. It’s obviously going to be Superman-Supergirl team up. Likely against Brainiac.
>>212793596I know you guys are desperate for copium but come on
>>212795616They are just going to keep moving the goalpost to make it sound like a success
>>212782263 (OP)Spamniggers get the rope.
Gunn only going to give each character one movie before teaming them up. He saw how every DC movie that got a sequel bombed. Aquaman 2 bomb. Wonder Woman 84 bomb. Shazam 2 bomb.
>>212797505>Aquaman 2 bomb. Wonder Woman 84 bomb. Shazam 2 bomb.I wonder why...
>>212797505>He saw how every DC movie that got a sequel bombed. Aquaman 2 bomb. Wonder Woman 84 bomb. Shazam 2 bomb.He didn't just see it, he lived it by making a sequel to suicide squad which if you can believe it bombed
>>212782263 (OP)It will be fine losers make 600 million
>>212797649>which if you can believe it bombedFucking mystery, that one.
>>212782263 (OP)>Internationally Superman is a flopBecause the new guy sucks, we were very happy with Henry.
>>212797699You were also happy sitting in your old world shit holes while the Earth moved on.
>>212782263 (OP)>$125 million to market globallyKek now they're lying for damage control
>>212797699Well, according to the WB shill above the new Superman is underperforming compared to the past MCU movies because the MCU brought back all the old actors. Guess they should have stuck with Cavill, after all.
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>>212797788Cavill isn’t a legacy character at all. Be like bringing Christopher Reeve as Superman. Even Tom Welling might have more of a response. They brought him back in the CW multiverse shit and Smallville fans lost their shit
>>212797943>Cavill isn’t a legacy character at all.Why?
>>212797943How much are you being paid to shill this hard? Don't tell me you're doing this for free.
>>212797962You saying Cavill is as loved as Superman as Maguire was as Spider Man? Or Jackman as Wolverine? Or Bale as Batman? Or Snipes as Blade?
Do people still think Superman will make over $2B or have they sobered up to reality yet?
>>212798030Who's to say.
I just know that people throughout the internet just can't stop bringing Cavill and MoS up, be it to praise the new movie or damn it. Huge fucking shadow.
>>212798079Not saying he couldn’t be one. There was fan speculation he was going to be Ultraman. I could see it somewhere down road if they ever did a live action Crisis
>>212782263 (OP)Snyderturds, it's time for us to get back in the toilet where we belong.
>>212783282You guys complain about Synder fans but you are acting like what you describe them as. You are coping when the reality is that it's doing bad overseas. That's the truth. If you are terminally online person like Angry Joe you'd blame it on Trump but the reality is that super heroes movies have reverted to their old box office if you check super hero movies overall. The few good movies in the early 2000s and the MCU have skewed how people international box offices for these movies worked before. After several bombs from Phases 4 & 5 of the MCU and the previous DC universe, we've gone back to how they usually performed at the box office. We're not in the golden age of super hero movies and likely on the precipice of them being phased out for whatever is the next hot thing which is either anime or video game movies.
>>212798256WE REEK OF SHIT
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>>212798266> it's doing bad overseasSo what? Has nothing to do with the movie and everything to do with current US politics. Don’t even say it doesn’t. China loves The Flash but now straight up boycotting Superman just like they did Captain America earlier this year
>>212798422What about other parts of the world?
Maybe, just maybe... the movie sucks for most people.
>>212785527No one is going to go out to see Supergirl. It will flop harder than Jewperman's international release.
>>212786302>Why Brazil?Mutts like fisting.
>>212797943You sound black.
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>>212798839Brazil hates Trump
>>212798422>J-just ignore them because they don't fit MY insecure bias, m'kay?
>>212799162Should be focusing on China.
Brazil can wait.
>>212799162I'm Brazilian and i love Trump. I also hated the new Superman movie. Kind of sad that all the people here ate that slop and helped its box office.
>>21279930210 more years, jeet.