Thread 212817866

>Written by hack writers Tom King and Damon Lindelof
>Focused on John Stewart who steals stories and plots from other lanterns to stay relevant
>Villain is a "conspiracy minded" chud

>>212817866 (OP)
I'm excited for this show...I also grew up with the character of John Stewart watching cartoons when I was a kid...

People like John Stewart

>>212817915
Nigger lover. Kill yourself

>>212817866 (OP)
Yeah, just like Superman was a "Flop" right?
LMAO.

>>212817934
And niggers have overstayed their welcome. No one wants some low iq chimp "hero". because we all know that niggers are not heros.

>>212817866 (OP)
>focusing on Stewart
Yeah literally the only GL that normies are sort of familiar with due to the cartoon.

>b-but muh Hal
Nobody but comic autists care. His movie bombed harder than The Flash and I distinctly remember a good amount of people being confused and thinking they raceswapped GL kek. Stewart is the obvious choice since he’s the one people sort of vaguely know as “the black one” and he fills the diversity quota.

>>212817963
Troon

>>212817866 (OP)
*Join The Army"

>>212818021
He's still right and you're still butthurt.

>>212817980
I can imagine normalfags getting LGBT fatigue but they don't give a shit about blacks.

>>212817866 (OP)
> it’s another Hal becomes Parallax to make way for Stewart movie

>>212818062
Troon

>>212818064
Nigger fatigue is starting to trend online. And it will only grow stronger

>>212818196
You will or a nigger will get you, only a matter of time.

>>212817866 (OP)
John? Hal? All bitches.

>>212817866 (OP)
Hal got a movie and it sucked.

Just do red ring guy. Only interesting lantern besides Larfleeze

>>212817866 (OP)
Anon it's Training Day and John is the new guy. Get a grip.

>>212818162
Like trending on twitter trending?

>>212817866 (OP)
He’s the best one

>>212817866 (OP)

Who keeps hiring this moai-looking zestoid
Also does Lindelof have some sort of black fetish going on. It's like he's the go-to guy now for shows with a black lead

>>212818100
Lmao chuddie

>>212819292
Troon speak. Pathetic

>>212817866 (OP)
>>212817943
>>212817980
>>212818021
Is this some kind of reverse shilling where you make haters look unreasonable?

>>212817866 (OP)
>lindelof
Midwits are gonna love it

>>212819167
literally only made 1 show with a black lead, stop making shit up chud

>>212819392
>Pathetic
but enough about yourself

>written by the guy who made leftovers, watchmen, mrs davis
is that supposed to sound bad? Those are one of the best written shows ever

>>212819550

yeah the one where they turned dr manhattan into a nig
imagine the audacity, or chutzpah as they say

>>212817866 (OP)
>Damon Lindelof
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>212819444
my theory is that literally ANY argument is viewed as a valid way to drive engagement.
all the Snydershitting on this board could really be about promoting Superman 2025 including the gloating over its box office.

>>212817866 (OP)
Black fatigue is real

>>212817963
Superman is a flop. Everyone and their mom hyped this up to be the billion dollar comicbook movie that would save the genre. It's just anoother flop.

>>212817934
This nigga is way too zesty to be the lead for the show.

>small town racism with a Green Lantern coat of paint
Sweet! Just what everybody wants out of a GL series!

>>212817866 (OP)
>>Focused on John Stewart who steals stories and plots from other lanterns to stay relevant
I like this. Very meta.

>>212817866 (OP)
He’s the most popular Lateran and only Silver Age clowns at DC kept pushing Hal just like they keep pushing Barry instead of Wally.

>>212817866 (OP)
Zesty

>>212818162
No it isn't. At least not anywhere that matters.

>>212818001
>Be 2025
>N...n....no one knows Hal, he wasn't in JLU
>Be 2003 watching JLU
>Everyone wonders where Hal is because Hal is the only green lantern anyone cares about
>Be every subsequent Justice League cartoon
>Hey look Hal Jordan

If you think the 40 year olds who were around to watch cartoons 25 years ago are the target audience of modern media, much less know who John Stewart is you're coping hard. Next you'll say Static Shock is remembered as in, at all

>BUT MUH POPULARITY
>MUH JLU

I wish all John Stewart fans in this thread would remind me of a time when John Stewart carried a successful solo project: Whether it's a comic series or a cartoon or a movie. I'd also like them to tell me who his nemesis is and when it was the last time they showed up in comic, cartoons or movies.

>>212817866 (OP)
Why does every black man these days look homosexual?

>>212821896
everyone forgets this movie exists. Ryan Reynolds is the only one who constantly brings it up cause no one has told him the joke's dated

>>212818240
This is my fav lantern and he is almost all but forgotten.

>>212821933
His Mosaic storyline.
His villain? Himself

>>212821699
>>212819134
If John's so popular, then how come Hal carries all the comic green lantern runs

>>212822057
Same reason why got Barry instead of Wally as the The Flash. Got Silver Age clowns in charge. Wally is the bachelor and all popular Flash stories are Wally’s. Yet every Flash show and come they got Barry being Wally

>>212822010
>His Mosaic storyline.
Some mini series in the 90's LOL written by a pedophile LMAO cmon bro
>His Villain? Himself
Nope. He recreated an entire sentient person in the newest Green Lantern run, and everyone applauded him for it, and it was seen as a heroic and caring moment. Yet when Hal did it in the 90's everyone called him a monster

>>212821896
>this at the time giga flop for only breaking even performed better than the last dozen marvel movies

>>212822144
Are you saying John Stewart is like Wally West? That the silver age clowns in charge had the fault of giving Hal Jordan GOOD WRITING, which outsold BATMAN in the 2000s, and just left poor ol' John out in the rain despite his non-existent JLU personality

>>212818162
I think Indians have pissed more people off and have less of a shield.

>>212822323
What happen is for bunch boomers in charge like Jeph Loeb who undid all the stuff the original Crisis fixed by bringing all Silver Age shit they grew up with. But now got Gen Xers taking over who grew up on John and Wally. No doubt if we see The Flash in the Gunnverse it will be Wally. Especially after The Flash movie disaster

>>212817915
>>212817934
tell me something about john stewart's personality without looking him up

>>212817866 (OP)
>Tom King and Damon Lindelof

>>212817934
>>212818001
People like Hal a lot more. None of this cope of "muh cartoon from twenty years ago that no one remembers" is going to change that.

>>212822406

What Indians did to Britain, Canada and Australia is straight up like war crimes type of shit, actually genuinely evil. Black people are annoying but they're not going around colonizing countries and turning them into shitholes

>>212822468
Gen Xers took over the comic industry since the mid 2010's and NONE of them, gave shit about John Stewart.

His most recent comic series War Journal just had him repeat Blackest Night all over again, instead of building on his relationship with Katma Tui, his nemesis Fatality, or his time spent in the Darkstars. They just keep stealing storylines from other lanterns, dress them in a new coat of paint and giving them to him

>>212822007
>he is almost all but forgotten
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-M9tCRCKpw

>>212822625
Nobody cares about Hal but people who read comics which is such a small population they’re not worth catering to. Most people probably aren’t even aware there’s different GLs.

>>212817866 (OP)
Why does he look like a brown chink?

>>212822151
>Some mini series in the 90's LOL written by a pedophile LMAO cmon bro
Yes. Sadly, that pedophile wrote the best Hal Jordan run too. It was the best Green Lantern era ever.
>>212822151
>Nope. He recreated an entire sentient person in the newest Green Lantern run, and everyone applauded him for it, and it was seen as a heroic and caring moment. Yet when Hal did it in the 90's everyone called him a monster
That's the end of that pedophiles run, Anon.

>>212824017
if people like john so much, how come he didn't get the movie in 2011

>>212822502
He was a marine.... Thats about it he really liked to talk about it. Makes gun constructs a lot which was pretty funny to me. Idk the only lantern I really liked was hal jordan. guy being a distant 2nd. I love the theme of lanterns but the writing is pretty mid for most of their series.

>>212817866 (OP)
Eww John Stewart focus

>>212818080
They're morons, Anon. Pay them no mind.

>>212824250
No clue. I do remember reading a WB exec saying they should’ve used John but ultimately it wouldn’t have mattered that movie was doomed.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with people liking John. What Hal fags don’t understand is that normies are completely indifferent to every Green Lantern, and probably couldn’t even tell you which is which. So DC just goes with John because he’s the black dude so they have a black character in their roster without them having to try to force Cyborg to be a thing again.

>>212824242
>wrote the best Hal Jordan run too
wait a minute...but this run never outsold batman, perhaps there was a far more superior run in the 2000's that finally brought green lantern into the spotlight

>>212824348
Yeah, Tomasi's run.

>>212824339
>So DC just goes with John because he’s the black dude so they have a black character in their roster without them having to try to force Cyborg to be a thing again
you know who was black, had a PERSONALITY and a DCAU cartoon? Static Shock. I'd rather let Hal build up the lantern lore and have Static be the main black guy they push

>>212824017
You're right that comic readers are a relatively insignificant demographic but Hal has had more mainstream exposure and success than John. Even if the 2011 movie bombed far more people watched it than the JL cartoon. And Hal's animated appearances afterwards have been more well-received than John's.

>>212824471
DC doesn’t own the rights to Static. He’s not even in the DC Mainline universe anymore. They license the rights to distribute his comics from Milestone, which is currently in legal hell. So they can’t use him. Even if they could, Static is more like Spider-Man, a younger hero not part of the main roster.

>>212824540
2022

>>212824509
Hal’s movie bombed hard dude, nobody watched that shit, and so did his animated show, which is why it got cancelled. It’s such an insignificant track record he’s not really in the public consciousness. They’re both literal whos.

>>212822975
Those shitholes are the only reason you can post on this board your retarded faggot.

>>212824567
Did you read my post Anon? They license the character to distribute. They don’t own him. It’s like the current Marvel Spider-Man movie situation. If they wanted to make a Static movie they would have to license him from Milestone and split the profits.

>>212824670
Source? It seems like they own it, but people are trying to challenge them legally and failing.

>>212824724
>DC owns the trademark
>Milestone owns the copyright
Neither own Friday the 13th

>>212824724
https://movieweb.com/james-gunn-static-shock-not-coming-to-dcu/#:~:text=Static%3A%20Season%201%2C%20published%20between,not%20own%20the%20Milestone%20character.

That image you posted doesn’t even take place in the mainline DC universe btw. Static got sent to his own universe with all the other Milestone characters. DC is just his distributor. Also Milestone is in legal hell rn so even if they wanted to license him for a movie it would be tricky.

>>212817866 (OP)
John Stewart is the least of this show’s issues. The first of source being a show and not a movie.

>>212817866 (OP)
>DEI lantern
I'm skipping this one

>>212824396
Exactly. Gerard Jones malding in jail rn with his "yellow weakness" bullshit

>>212824906
As long as you don't think it's Johns. His run was dogshit.

>>212822502
Is a war vet that had a lot of discipline and experience. Close in line with Mace Wundu

>>212817866 (OP)

Didn't Hal Jordan get his own film back in 2011 already?

>>212818001

The animated WB Superman show had Hal Jordan as a Green Lantern before Justice League and Justice League Unlimited.

>>212817866 (OP)
This movie is 15 years too late.

15 years ago John Steward green lantern was very much in the public consciousness. Now not so much. Shame cause i liked the character in Justice League show

>>212822502
He's an architect that destroyed a planet because of his own insecurity, and then got retconned by a reality warper into being an army sergeant or something.

>>212824966
>the animated Superman show had Hal
No it didn’t, it had Kyle. Hal got his own CG show but it didn’t do well and was cancelled after like 2 seasons.

>>212824882
>Created December 1971
>DEI

>>212824923
I strongly disagree. I think Johns brought a lot of great concepts to the Green Lantern myhtos and revived it from the 90's downward spiral

holy shit
I just saw that bendis legion of super-heroes just got retconned

>>212822502
he's black

>>212824983
it’s an HBO show anon

>>212817866 (OP)
see imagery like this
never watch consume buy thing

simple as

>>212825045
Nah, his concepts are retarded, as was his retcon of Parallax & Final Night and his comic was weirdly edgy at points for no reason at all. Childish and retarded. It's hard to know what was Tomasi's idea or not, as he was Johns editor at the time.

>>212824948
>Close in line with Mace Windu
I really wish this was John's personality. I wish he was judgmental and opinionated on anything that didn't align with The Guardian's oath (Jedi's code). I wish he was mistrustful of others different to his core beliefs.

>>212825204
>as was his retcon of Parallax
this lead into the other lantern corps and got rid of the ridiculous yellow weakness, what are you on about? It was the best explanation for the character assassination DC editors pushed on Hal Jordan, because they wanted to break him like they did with Batman or kill him like they did with Superman.

Am I talking to a Kyle Rayner fan here?

At this rate Guy Gardner is going to be more well known than Hal. Just retire the character or stick him into irrelevancy like Alan Scott.

>>212824983
John was never in the public consciousness.

>>212825375
The problem is that Hal Jordan built the modern Green Lantern mythos. They can't build shit without him because he's got the rogues gallery, the love interests, and the best storylines

>>212825553
So did Wally West for the Flash and it didn't stop them from forcing Barry back in.

>>212817866 (OP)
>Blackest night confirmed

>>212822975
>Black people are annoying but they're not going around colonizing countries and turning them into shitholes
Chicago, Detroit, New York, Los Angeles... It's a pretty long list, anon.
They're like locusts.

>>212824250
> if people like john so much, how come he didn't get the movie in 2011

Why hasn’t Wally West gotten movie? Why do keep pushing Barry and makinf him Wally West stories. Grant Gustin was not Barry he was Barry pretending to be Wally West. Ezra wasn’t Barry either. Barry was middle aged married guy.

>>212822625
Problem was Hal went Yellow for a bit, John never went Yellow.

>>212817866 (OP)
John Stewart playing the straight man and Guy Gardner playing the loose cannon was some of the best shit from the comics. It was lethal weapon in space.

>>212825553
People bring up the public consciousness of Hal Jordan but it's just the generic "snarky and arrogant but heroic" trope. Having the entire Green Lantern story and villains revolve around him subtracts from the most interesting part, which is the worldbuilding of the rings themselves. If anything, you know John Stewart is not some DEI "forced black" character precisely because he's not a black Hal, which would've been the most obvious route. But I suspect the reason OP dislikes Stewart is because he's too young to have watched the JL cartoons.

green lantern is the one character were race swaps can be logical because the ring gets passed to another person everytime a lantern dies or retires.
the show sounds interesting, true detective but with super heroes

>>212817915
>>212817934
Yeah I grew up watching JL and JLU animated, so John Stewart is my Green Lantern.
This is why Batman x Wonderman is my ship, and I prefer Martian Manhunter over Cyborg as the final JL member.

>>212827241
>But I suspect the reason OP dislikes Stewart is because he's too young to have watched the JL cartoons.
OP here, I watched the cartoons, I liked them when I was a kid. Then I read the comics and realized the JLU cartoons gave a very limited scope on the lanterns and didn't do them justice. Particularly because Star Sapphire and Sinestro didn't have any history with John Stewart.

Why can’t they just have both? Hal and John as a buddy cop would work

>>212827541
gardner is more comic relief, having to straight guys would be boring

>>212827541
Hal is in the show, but he isn't going to be the main green lantern of this universe. They have an old, on his way out, Hal jordan in this universe. Wouldn't be surprised if he dies by the end of this HBO show

>>212817866 (OP)
Could actually have been something worth bitching about if we had gotten pic related instead.

>>212827638
they will come and rape John in the post credit sequence

>Guy Gardner is in the Superman movie
>John is the star of the live-action DCU show
>Jessica Cruz is going to get her own animated show in the MAWS universe
>Hal's movie bombed, his show was cancelled, he was made to be a complete jobbing laughing stock in the animated movies

Halbros it's truly over.

>>212828689
not at all - there is no way this movie is a commercial success, and kyle chandler has a lot of charisma so Hal will still be fine

>>212829468
>movie
it's a TV show anon.

>>212829490
my bad

>>212828689
They tried to kill him once in the 90's, only to come back crawling after Green Lantern tanked

>>212821933
This isn’t a solo project, it’s a buddy cop series

>>212818162
Normies get tired of crying racism but still listen to black music and dress and act like them.

>>212829722
nah, Kyle Rayner was doing fine as GL. They only brought him back because Geoff Johns has a huge hateboner against legacy characters. Same reason he forced Barry Allen back and tried to can Wally despite Wally being far more popular at the time.

>>212824906
The yellow weakness is waaay older than Jones

>>212817866 (OP)
>Villain is a "conspiracy minded" chud
who specifically?

>Make entire movie about Hal and his gay lover.
>Flops horrendously
>Isnt the Green Lantern a black guy

>Maybe that old cartoon is the problem
>Give Hal a cartoon
>Flops horrendously
>Toys cant sell

>Ed Boon makes Hal central to two Green Lantern games
>Please give us a skin of the real green lantern. Who Kyle? No the black guy

>Fuck it make Carol Kyle’s side bitch

>People still asking if the Green Lantern is the black guy several years later
halfags will never recover

>>212829722
they made him turn evil to begin with because nobody was buying Hal's comics. geoff is just a huge manchild and forced Barry and Hal back because he liked them as a kid.

>>212822502
Stoic, no-nonsense, by the book marine kind of a guy.

>>212827638
Has Hal fucked black chick yet?

look at all the seething about hal kek, like clockwork
john is boring and was only introduced by denny o'neill for diversity points
kyle destroyed what made green lantern good with the corps and the legacy
guy is based

>>212830109
guy is the only one with any personality
Hal is a boring self-insert character, same with Kyle.
John is just "the black dude" but I guess better him than Cyborg.

>>212829906
I think you're obsessed with black guys

>>212830142
>better him than Cyborg.
cyborg has an actual personality

>>212824471
>Lightning nigga
>Had a personality
Making static shock Batman's best fren is the solitary low point of the btas, stas, jl, JLU era. At least John had some good points as a character different than Hal, static shock doesn't have the powers or the origin of the role to be anything. The number of episodes across the dc slate devoted to floating that unwatched show through crossover is just embarrassing.

>>212830142
I hated Guy but did actually like Guy + John in some Green Lantern Corps

>>212829931
>they made him turn evil to begin with because nobody was buying Hal's comics
It had nothing to do with that retard. 90's edge reached the DC comics offices and editors pushed for Green Lantern to have his own Knightfall/Death of Superman moment.

>>212829848
>nah, Kyle Rayner was doing fine as GL
Anon, the sales were declining ever since they got rid of Parallax because he was Kyle’s most interesting antagonist, and in that space between 1996 and 2003, nobody could fill in his spot.

>>212830223
but he doesn't fit in the JL it's weird. keep him with the Titans.

>>212830223
Yeah but he is the go to token black too much

>>212830284
>>212830268
He does a fine job as the token black guy. A damn fine job!

>>212830255
>it had nothing to do with that
It had everything to do with that. Hal's comics weren't selling at the time and so editorial mandated they dump him and try again with Kyle because they wanted to a shake-up. Comics don't just do crazy jump the shark moments like that for no reason. This isn't even a conspiracy thing, it's been well known for a while they did Hal's heel turn because nobody cared about GL at the time.

>>212830338
>because nobody cared about GL at the time
they thought this too until the HEAT letters started coming, and the Kyle Rayner comics declined into obscurity

>>212830292
A credit to his people?

>>212830369
they didn't think it, they were right. it's just that nobody cared about Kyle that much either, so when his comics started fading they desperately tried to bring Hal back. GL has the unfortunate side effect of having the coolest powers stuck on the shittiest characters.

>>212830338
>Hal's comics weren't selling at the time and so editorial mandated they dump him and try again with Kyle because they wanted to a shake-up.
But it was the editorial’s fault in the first place by making Hal so old in the first place. Turns out young readers in the 90s really don’t want to read about old guys feeling out of touch.

>>212829906
Everyone agreed the GLTAS was a better representation of GL than the DCAU.

>>212829906
The problem isn't Hal, it's that Green Lantern isn't that popular of a character. The movie and cartoons would have even fared if they were to use John instead of Hal.

>>212830712
yeah and it was so popular it got cancelled

they should've just kept Hal as the Spectre.

>>212831031
It got cancelled because of the toys being tied to the movie, retard,

>>212817866 (OP)
Bitch, you don't know shit about 'GL stories and plots'.
Also its fucking great we are getting at least a lantern that is not fucking Hal...heck we also get Guy now.

>>212831264
That's cause Hal's the only lantern worth talking about

>>212822502
He’s a stoic chad like Master Chief.

They need to just give him all of Hal's comic stories because even though he's more recognizable, his storylines suck.

>>212834338
whoah...what you proposed might make john the most unlikable character of all time

>>212818069
I could handle it the way the GL cartoon did it.
Hal did all the space shit and John was relgated to Earth sector. (And also only mentioned in passing by Guy Gardner)