Thread 212845438

Why do we not have any futurism in the 2020s like the culture did back in the 80s? are the decades forward really that bleak?

>>212845438 (OP)
Yes

>>212845438 (OP)
People actually thought we would have flying cars by now, instead we have leftoid subhumans shilling for public transportation like trains and busses lel

>>212845438 (OP)
People refuse to dream these days

>>212845438 (OP)
We will be watching capeslop for next 20 years

>>212845438 (OP)
This is the future, there is no future beyond this. The world will die within the next decade

>>212845514
I have a fly in car. It’s called a private jet. Get on my level, anon. Or just come… fly with me, let’s fly. Let’s… fly away.

>>212845438 (OP)
1980s futurism was a warning about unchecked capitalism and the corps don't want people to know they've created the future that people were afraid of so you don't see anything like it anymore.

>>212845707
yeah, i have like 30 cousins. my sisters kids have 0 cousins lmao

>>212845438 (OP)
We arrived in the future and it's trash.

>>212846073
This hits hard

>>212845438 (OP)
We have too much future already without wanting anymore

>>212845481
Fpbp.

>>212845514
In Blade Runner only Gaff had a flying car and it was basically a helicopter, you could see him talking to air traffic control and everything.

>>212845438 (OP)
The future isnt something to look forward to anymore.

>>212845438 (OP)
Blade Runner was a dystopia.

>>212846011
>unchecked capitalism
There is no such thing as checked capitalism retarded essay watcher

>>212845438 (OP)
>the real cyberpunk nightmare future is the one we're living in right now

>>212846470
Except it is even worse because we don't have any of the cool shit.

>>212846011
>unchecked capitalism
It's just as much unchecked socialism. The big corps want cheap labor and the leftards want open borders and equal poverty everywhere. The main culprit is globalism/lack of nationalism.

>>212845438 (OP)
>1980's film
>Depicts a seedy violent dystopian future
>Haha, that's so whacky

>2020's film
>Depicts a seedy violent dystopian future
>Haha, that's where we are heading

>>212846598
we need chinese style socialism and an international purge of wokeness

>>212845514
You will take your taxi drone along a predetermined flight path, and you will like not having any control whatsoever should things go wrong.

>>212845438 (OP)
because we have no future

>>212846640
>>Haha, that's where we are heading
Anon, we're already there.

>>212847155
Modern China is as globalist as they come, they just haven't opened the gates yet

We're on the verge of the biggest tech revolution in human history with AI, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>212848336
It's not a good thing. A fuckton of people will lose their job and all the money being saved from it will stay at the top. The world is turning into that shit movie Elysium.

>>212847370
This is what they took from us

>>212848336
Yeah I'm looking forward to mass poverty in even first world countries as creative and office jobs are deleted

>>212848336
>the biggest tech revolution in human history with AI
>main use is destroying millions of jobs in anything that required writing, drawing, programming or calculating things
>the only public use we get is jeets making crappy porn, ghibli edits on shitter and femcels/coomers ERPing with chatbots
What a time to be alive

>>212849277
yep, just like with every tech advancement, which is why the average person still lives in thatched roof huts

>>212845438 (OP)
It's over.

>>212845438 (OP)
What is there to look forward to?

>Another boatload of migrants from an even weirder corners of deepest Africa and india?
>more surveillance state apparatus so we dont hurt them?
>fake and worthless money. Amazon or Apple company scrip?
>more environmental destruction?
>ai that is only used to nudge us into being better consumers?

>>212845438 (OP)
Digital tech doesn't lend itself to exciting future possibilities the way analog tech did, for some reason. Probably cultural exhaustion too, since all the possible lost futures from steampunk to cyberpunk already came and went.

>>212849440
>>Another boatload of migrants from an even weirder corners of deepest Africa and india?
Nope. They've started deportating people so that Grandma can work off her Medicaid work requirements in the fields instead of mooching off of hard working billionaires.

>>212847155
What would that accomplish?

>>212849424
I just want a young Angelina gf...

>>212849502
Go back

>>212849502
>14,500 deportations a month. That's 87,000 for far in 6 months, or projected at less than a million over 4 years. After Biden let in 10 million in 4 years.

>>212849277
>>212849390
Just like how the Industrial Revolution led to massive job losses and doomed humanity?

>>212849405
>the only public use we get is jeets making crappy porn, ghibli edits on shitter and femcels/coomers ERPing with chatbots
Now. Give it ten years

>>212849728
Give me one reason to think that the future isn't just ubiquitous Jeet AI slop

>>212849728
>industrialisation forces people out of manual jobs
>they move into skilled and information jobs
>AI forces people out of skilled and information jobs
where do they go
we can't all be artists

>>212846404
We literally live in "checked" capitalism, that's what regulation, antitrust, etc. is genius

>>212845514
>>>/pol/

>>212845438 (OP)
>Why do we not have any futurism in the 2020s like the culture did back in the 80s?

All the cool tech is pretty much apps on a gay tablet and flying cars, robots etc are all drone platforms which looks normal and boring

>>212849837
We set aside petty wants like money and possession and focus on bettering ourselves until we evolve into pure energy like Gene Roddenberry and Arthur C Clarke said. Just sucks that you and I had to be born in the pre-Eugenics Wars phase.

>>212846531
Ai is kind of cool even if it’s not really Ai

>>212849277
Why wouldn’t they just use Ai to run companies or be investors ?
Ai would be better at that then any manual labor jobs

>>212845438 (OP)
2001 , OT Star Wars and Blade Runner have ruined SF cinema. Nobody seems to be able to see anything beyond these. They were too good, their art direction, photography and cinematography have been copied endlessly to this day. And I see no sign of that changing anytime soon.

>>212850036
Because why would the people running the companies build things that would replace them

>>212845438 (OP)
The 80s were such a rich, prosperous time that dystopian futures seemed like a fascinating impossibility. Nowadays we are actually living in them so there's no point making films like that anymore.

>>212849780
I'd rather jeet AI slop than having to deal with jeets in person

>>212849837
Manual labor and harvesting the land. As God intended

>>212845438 (OP)
Most people aren't retarded enough anymore to imagine tech changing to such extremes in 20 years.

>>212845514
Flying cars are a really stupid idea that would never work though

>>212850302
>Nowadays we are actually living in them
Go back to r*ddit with this whiny shit. Or touch grass, one of the two

>>212850302
Exactly this

>>212850036
>Why wouldn’t they just use Ai to run companies or be investors ?

Why would anyone ever build a robot that would be used to replace every useful they could ever do?

>>212848336
It's funny how retards keep saying its AI when the reality is its Nuclear Fusion

>>212850468
FIFTY MORE YEARS

>>212850486
They make a new breakthrough every year. The more they can hold ignition the closer we are to it being a reality. It can be done, it just needs time. Were closer to literal infinite energy than we are to AI being more then a porn generator.

>>212850541
>They make a new breakthrough every year.
FIFTY MORE BREAKTHROUGHS

>>212850337
Flying cars make some sense for first responders to have, so they can hop over traffic. But that would mean a lot more training on using the things.

If we get to the point that self driving isn't rife with bugs and bad tech (lol Tesla not having LiDAR) then maybe we can move from 2D to 3D and have self-flying autopilot figured out. I know autopilot in planes is pretty good, but they're not navigating flying between skyscrapers and support pillars. Then we wouldn't end up with Wiggum flying his car into a skyscraper and melting the steel beams.

Of course the power and thrust necessary are a bit of an issue, as well as VTOL just being more dangerous than traditional takeoff and landing. Looking at you, V-22.

>>212845514
You're baiting but this is how the average chud actually thinks.

>>212850468
Explain nuclear fusion to me in your own words

>>212845438 (OP)
I thought about this recently. The 20th Century saw ENORMOUS and rapid scirntific and engineering progress. So there was a huge focus on futurism. Seemingly based on that people keeped expecting a similar trajectory. However in the mid 90s giant progress stopped and for the last quarter century we have just seen iterations. A lot of futurism in this period seems to reflect that. Something like Her, which had ear buds and chatbots. People aren't seeing any progress in real life and thus aren't projecting any in fiction.

>>212850654
>Flying cars make some sense for first responders to have, so they can hop over traffic. But that would mean a lot more training on using the things.
I've never heard that before, I do immediately like that idea.
The only vaguely possible mass use of flying cars would be the opposite of freedom. Where you have 0 manual control of the vehicle even in an emergency. It's just not feasible any other way, it would be a disaster.
There is still plenty of space on this planet to build and drive around on

>>212846011
We don't even have a cool dystopia. It's just fucking Camp Of The Saints.

>>212850654
Flying cars do make sense but they will NEVER look like car shapes with little puffs of smoke coming out the bottom as in blade runner. That was the retarded thing. They're already near to making flying taxies be a thing in big cities. They're electric with many rotors like a giant drone. Far cheaper and easier than a helicopter, and can get people from the airport to a hotel or their business much faster than sitting in jam packed ground traffic.

>>212850721
Hold on, I need to find my pen and folded paper

>>212850721
Fire 2.0

>>212845521
And drugs everywhere and easier to consume than ever stop people from literally dreaming at night

>>212850757
As an example. In the space of about 60 years we went from people getting into the air in crude flying machines to putting a man on the moon. In the subsequent 60 years we can't even return a man to the moon. We do have endless announcements of how "diverse" the crew would be, if we did. In the space of about 30 years we went from splitting the atom to building city powering nuclear power stations. Now the U.S. government is looking at plans for how to build small nuclear grids because they no longer possess the ability to build large scale engineering projects.

>>212845514
>capitalism did not give me a flying car and it is fault of the leftist

>>212850806
I don't think anyone in the 80's thought China would be the one's with flying cars in 2025.

There's no futurism because the old people in charge of everything know that the only thing waiting for them in their future is their deaths. We have to wait for them to die and everything to land in the hands of the by-then middle aged alpha gen before we can get futurism again.

Cyberpunk is the only future left to you.

>>212845823
>Get on my level
Calm down Monte

>>212851056
Yeah except it will be very ugly instead of gigantic aesthetic neon cityscapes

>>212848336
just two more weeks

>>212850997
In the 80's, everyone thought it'd be Japan kek

>>212851031
>We have to wait for them to die
Oh, the rich old folk are trying to solve that for themselves as well. Whether by cloning or some miracle cure reviving their aging cells. Their futurism goal is to live everlasting and dominate you slaves forever.

>>212850939
>In the subsequent 60 years we can't even return a man to the moon
This is a retarded misconception. We absolutely could go back to the moon, we're just choosing not to because there's no point

This is what a 20 year old car looked like in 2005. Now a car from 2005 looks barely discernible from a modern car. I drive an '07 and its not out of place on the road at all. The only difference is its lack of touch screens and back up cameras, whoopie

>>212850258
Because the people in charge aren’t the owners of the company
Investors own it and put CEOs in charge who make a lot of money
You’d instantly save millions on replacing top management with Ai
Replacing manual labor with Ai would mean physically running robots with a lot of mechanical parts (each part can break down and wear out)
Replace management and you just need a computer screen

>>212847370
>Plaza accords
It was just one agreement that barely lasted two years.

>>212851619
What a load of shit. They have been working a return mission for 8 years now and the constant refrain from NAStroons is that they "re-learning" the ability. 6 year delay first and now we're halfway through another delay til 2027 and we all know they will cancel that too.

>>212851807
didn't trump slash half their budget or something

>>212851807
Combine not having the machine tooling to make Saturn Vs and the lack of 5% of the U.S. national budget, and yeah, it’s gonna take a while, anon.

>>212851855
Other way around. Biden wanted to cut it because NASA were going fucking nowhere with delay after deley and requesting new targets that basically amounted to "do nothing we were tasked with". Trump refinanced it with his Le Big Beautiful Bill, with the intention they will put men on the moon in '27
they won't

>>212845514
considering how people drive nowadays I don't think that would be a good idea.

>>212851928
Interesting comment about the tooling. Apparently that's what's limiting nuclear power stations again.

>>212849424
we were promised cheap, shiny plastic shit. promises made. promises kept.

>>212851947
There is literally zero reason to put men back on the moon. Or even Mars. There's nothing there. It exponentially increases the risk, cost, complexity, etc of the mission. They can and do land drones there regularly which is all that's needed. Put that money instead towards a fleet of drones with AI workers that will assemble a moonbase so that it's all set up and ready for any future astronaut inhabitants. Idiotic to have the humans go down to nothing and have to put it together manually.

>>212852078
>fleet of drones with AI workers
we still rely on humans to stack box A on top of box B right here on earth and you think it's more cost effective to do robots on the moon?

>>212849728
Many people lost their lives due to the industrial revolution
>and doomed humanity?
Unironically yes

>>212852078
Well, they are putting their eggs in moon base basket now. Idiotic or not.

>>212851807
Theres no reason to do this anymore. Earth will collapse before interstellar travel is possible

>>212850721
A fancier way to heat up some water and drive some turbines

>>212850654
>Flying cars make some sense for first responders to have
Helicopters already exist

>>212851855
Yes. Trump and Musk gutted federal agencies of budget and experienced manpower then set it up so SpaceX could profit spectacularly filling the gap.

>>212852917
You're an idiot

>>212852920
This never happened. Trump just dumped a gargantuan sum of money into NASA so they can theoretically make the 2027 schedule. What do you think Musk was crying like a bitch about the last couple months

>>212851655
>Now a car from 2005 looks barely discernible from a modern car.

kek true

Pic related is a 22 year old car

>>212852943
I rather be an idiot than gay and transsexual like you

>>212845438 (OP)
Because we're in the future and it's barely different than the 1970s

>>212849440
>fake and worthless money. Amazon or Apple company scrip?
That's where the mark of the beast (digital currency) comes in.

>>212853039
https://youtu.be/HH0AvaG3SqQ

>>212853059
But first the population needs to be reduced.

>>212847370
It's just a digestion pill commercial

>>212853112
Revelation 9:6 KJV
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

>>212853029
It's exactly the same except more nonwhites and Jews run 100% of everything instead of 99%.

>>212851655
Not really, cars are starting to change, with harder angles in their designs and all. I'd say you were right until 2020 or so.
That said, there have been two other major changes: One, adding lots of tech gadgets for shitty stuff. And two, cars are generally a lot flimsier now, more fragile. There are vids of people literally tearing a car to pieces just with their bare hands, without using much force. That wouldn't be possible with a 20+ years old car. Worse than that, it applies to stuff under the hood too.

>>212845438 (OP)
The decades forward are simply brown earth
Worse than cosmic horror

>>212849424
Nothing says Y2K like the blinding violet LED on the launch PS2

>>212853205
Christ is King.
Trump is Antichrist.
Musk is False Prophet.

TRUMP = 88 in English Gematria.

Trump's grandmother:
>Elisabeth CHRIST

Trump's grandfather:
>Frederich CHRIST Trump

Trump's grandmother death date:
>6/6/66

Trump's mother:
>Mary

"Donald J Trump" english gematria:
>888

"Jesus" greek gematria:
>888

Trump's original german name:
>Donald Johann Drumpf (6 6 6 letters)

Trump's age on day of inauguration:
>70 years, 7 months, 7 days

Meaning of "Donald":
>'Ruler of the world'

Israel founded:
>700 days after Trump's birth

Israel's birthday on Trump's 700th day as president:
>70 years, 7 months, 7 days

Aleister Crowley wrote a letter on 6/14/1946 regarding news of a "moon child" being born.

Trump's birthday:
>6/14/1946 (during a blood moon eclipse, the only one of the year)

https://twitter.com/DonnieDarkened/status/1527804590967619585

https://youtu.be/6MwNkUOuCJU?si=JV9qvWoR0iyTNOP8

https://youtu.be/6wG-skiCcCY?si=OVQETGhE434tK18N

https://rumble.com/v3e03qh-you-wont-believe-what-elon-musk-nanny-has-to-say-about-him.html

we wanted to go to the moon and mars and do cool stuff but turns out we have to babysit black people instead

>>212853280
>we wanted to go to the moon and mars
Not possible.

>>212853152
Shit, someone put La Luz Extinguido in space

>>212852050
now its expensive plastic shit

>>212852999
This is the 07 Corolla I'm still rocking. Maybe it looks a little dated, but it's not head-turningly old like a car from 87 would be in 07

>>212853162
>There are vids of people literally tearing a car to pieces just with their bare hands

>>212846640
>Depicts a seedy violent dystopian future
>woah, that looks pretty good

Dystopia has kind of died off as a setting, since it doesn't have impact when the real world is worse. When you watch bladerunner 2049 and think
>nice apartment
it loses some oomph.

>>212846068
Same. I actually lost count trying to remember how many cousins I have. My sister had four kids, and my brother and I don't have shit.

We grew up in a really abusive household, and she's the only one who ended up getting married and having kids. I'm sure it's got nothing to do with her being a female, and thus having to not put in any effort outside not being a fat slob.

>>212846278
I appreciate that it used that fat black bitch from the Amazon ad as the ultimate dystopian HR rep.

I can guarantee they used her in the original ad because some dipshit in San Francisco was like "OMG, SHE IS SO ADORBS!", while she's basically the amalgamated face of every bitch who made my life a living hell in my food service days.

>>212847269
Basically, they want globalism for everyone but themselves.

>>212847370
The props and sets in Blade Runner have yet to be topped to this day

>>212849688
Some estimates go as high as 20 million. And each one of those freeloading fucks are going to have huge litters of more mouths to feed who openly resent and hate the native population, and have no allegiance to our customs or values, and their little third-world enclaves that they carve out will only grow larger and larger, like unchecked tumors.

>>212845438 (OP)
This is another thread with a false premise. The future depicted in Blade Runner and most other sci-fi movies from that era was already bleak.
Modern sci-fi movies generally focus on different things, such as AI or space travel. Then there's obviously capeshit.

this is the hottest summer ever, just like next year's will be even hotter, and the year after will be hotter, and the next, and the next
the future is gay

>>212855665
This planet is unironically cooked.

>>212850997
Jesus christ, that looks like a death trap. Somebody's laundering money with that shit.

>>212852920
NOOOOOO, MUH $500 TOILET SEATS!!!

You too can go sit in a noodle bar even now.

>>212855665
where i live winters are getting shorter. we get maybe 3-4 weeks of near freezing temperatures and the rest of the time just feels like fall weather. it barely rains anymore too, when i was young it used to rain all the time

>>212850468
Why not both? It has to be both.

>>212845438 (OP)
Were they not bleak enough? Robocop? Gattaca? Blade Runner? Demolition Man?

>>212856736
>new text document

>>212845438 (OP)
>are the decades forward really that bleak?

>>212852917
GIANT FUCKIGN KETTLES

>>212849728
>Just like how the Industrial Revolution led to massive job losses and doomed humanity?
Well, yes, it's slow but steady. That's exactly what it did.

>>212845438 (OP)
> "It's too bad she won't live, but then again, who does?"

Such a great movie

>>212852943
He's right tho.

>>212850468
Fission is a lot safer and more viable.
But it would allow countries to achieve energy independence and certain (people) don't want that.
So there is a massive campaign to hate on nuclear power.

>>212856841
For me, its the men who fire bombed Dresden, a 100% civilian city. They knew what they were doing was wrong but hey as long as the "good guys" win then its a-ok.

>>212849728
>Now. Give it ten years
TWO WEEKS

>>212845438 (OP)
Because boomers had imagination and you don't. You're a terminally online subhuman generation. Keep malding.

>>212857086
>n-no you can't bomb our factories and railway hubs because -- you just can't!
uh huh. Dresden was an atrocity but there's no need to lie.

>>212857260
>dude imagine if we... put lead in the gas and then... bought up all the houses so our kids have to rent their whole lives!
>hmm it'll never work... unless?.. we send all our kids jobs to china!!

>>212845438 (OP)
Smartphones made cyberpunk really miss the mark
take blade runner for example, it feels like optimistic space opera now
you have a corporation that actually introduced space mining instead of being a fake glowie media corp
you have androids
actual sexbots
less surveillance
cool cities
great aesthetic

imagine if you did it today, he'd fly next to a giant tranny nigger face on the rainbow ziggurat
i mean he'd pretend to fly but there'd be a tranny nigger face nonetheless
on a blase glass tower

>>212849406
So much this! I'm thankful to live in my Private Equity Cube and not some rural home.

>>212845438 (OP)
Turns out that the future was way shittier than any of the dystopian authors predicted it would be.
Way more blacks and Indians.

>>212857086
Hiroshima and Nagasaki had even worse justification.

What percentage of modern westerners do you believe live in despair and how could this be fixed?

>>212857584
>>212857086
>>212857878
>"we are committing to total war, and will mobilize every single atom of our society to fight and win"
>"wow wtf you can't just bomb our society. war crime??? hello???"
Germany and Japan both deserved worse than they got. if you're going to start a huge war and ruin the decade for everyone, you don't get to bitch and moan when you lose

>>212845438 (OP)
Because the future happened and it sucks.

>>212850219
villeneuve saw this exact image and it changed him for life kek

>>212858125
average person has no control over what his country is doing and excusing war crimes just leads to more war crimes

>>212857878
Hey there were a bunch of christian japs there. Couldn't just let them be in peace. That would be evil!