Thread 212845715

>movie has a character get sober and recover from his alcoholism
Anyone else get taken right out by this trope?

>>212845715 (OP)
Is this Equalizer 2?

>>212845715 (OP)
I mean he literally had to go to jail to get sober, who knows if he can keep it up. Imagine being such a hopeless drunk that you would need jail to quit, haha...

>>212845715 (OP)
Chugging vodka like that seems a bit extreme. Alcoholics have fucked up stomachs so youre just gonna vomit

The security guard at the liquor store said "see you tommorow" to me jokingly tonight. I can't do this anymore bros

>>212846063
Shitty thing to say tbqh

>>212846090
Clerks have done it to me before too. Just let a nigga get his steel reserve i don't care bout your shit tests

>>212846063
>>212846090
>>212846142
I ain't no homo so I say "see you tomorrow!" before they can. Get it together you frogposters.

>>212845715 (OP)
>Anyone else get taken right out by this trope?
idk. Thats how i drop boozing myself.

Have you guys tried not being alcoholics I mean come on?

>>212846227
I don't understand

The only thing that has helped me is having bad shit happen and rebranding my identity as a teetotalist.

There is no person who just has a yearly beer. They're alcoholics. All of them. Some more severe than others. Look at your family members with their red shitty skin and bloated bodies and realize that's you in 10 years if you keep doing it.

Alcohol is a drug, it's just normalized. If you want to be successful in quitting you need to see it that way. Don't do the woe is me I'm an alcoholic for life AA shit. That's like saying if you tried meth or fentanyl you'd be a junkie for life too with that mindset. The problem isn't you, it's the poison. Be against the poison.

>>212846063
security guard? What 3rd world hell hole do you live in lol

>>212845715 (OP)
Would you not just vomit after that?

>>212846303
It's so easy to quit. There really aren't any addictive drugs anyway, if your life is fucked or your brain is fried then sure you get people with psychosis but addiction is totally overblown. I accidentally quit smoking cigarettes, tried meth casually and never felt a need to increase the dose or feel a pang to return to it, etc.
Most people who drink have made it a habit. Break the habit, it's a joke.

If your fat, don't eat too much food. If you want to drink less, don't buy or raise the drink to your lips. If you can't do either of those, suicide is unfortunately likely too hard for you too.

>>212846335
I live in an area full of niggers

It's friday bois I can't wait to get sauced tonight

>>212846394
Don't trivialize it that much asshole. If it's easy for you that's your M O. It's proven it affects people differently genetically and psychologically as well. It's not just mindset entirely but it does help.

>>212846063
>security guard at the liquor store

>>212846481
No, drug addiction is a choice and the concept of addictiveness is grossly overblown. Maybe one in a thousand people have a truly obsessive personality before drugs and the drugs co-opt that genetic propensity, but otherwise it's performative "I can't control it" BS. Literally:

don't put the alcohol in your shooping basket/go to a bar
if you do, don't open it/give it away/return it
if you can't do that, don't open it
don't drink it

There's enough points at which you are letting a habit of behavior take over where you have many points at which to stop. So stop. Or don't.

>>212845715 (OP)
https://youtu.be/qAakzl6s7QI?t=73
this is about drugs but it's still relevant

Should i try naltrexone

>>212846602
"Co-rumination is a process where two people intensely discuss their problems, often repeatedly rehashing negative emotions and speculating about the situation without finding solutions. It involves mutual encouragement to dwell on problems and negative feelings, and can be associated with both positive (e.g., increased friendship closeness) and negative (e.g., increased anxiety and depression) outcomes."

Just stop using, lol.

>>212846648
the guy talking in the clip isn't rehashing negative emotions, he's offering support and positive reinforcement

>>212846669
Sitting around talking about how some force stronger than you (addiction) is always lurking and ready to kill you is such fucking woman shit. You don't need a single other human or a god or anything to quit any substance. Empowering the addiction by calling it scary names and making it sound big is dumb, stop taking drugs/drinking. If you can't, commit suicide.

>>212845715 (OP)
druk?

is this the thread? I've got a Stella Artois tall boy and my wine

>>212846559
sounds like someone never had to deal with addiction or addicted friends/relatives, must be so nice living in a bubble like that

I will reiterate my main point:
If you absolutely cannot stop yourself from drugs/drinking, kill yourself. You are a societal menace and will steal, lie, etc.

>>212846726
Never dealt with addiction because it's not real, I have tried nearly everything though and lost people to overdoses. I'm the best friend a user can have.

>>212846559
How much pain do you think you could tolerate before you pushed a button in front of you that temporarily stopped it?

If there was no psychological or physical discomfort involved in the decision, then there'd be no such thing as addiction. But addiction does exist, and it destroys lives. You know that. You don't know how much suffering people endure when quitting their addiction, otherwise you wouldn't act like it's just a simple choice, like choosing a different shirt to wear. Yes some people are weaker than others, but you can't really quantify weakness in the context of the stress a person is going through without understanding that stress.

>>212846705
12-step program and religious programs have the highest success rate for recovering alcoholics and drug addicts. why do you think that is?

My parents and booze ruined my life. But, im not hiding from personal responsibilities

>>212846764
Because they don't poll people who titrate their intake at home with weak beers and then get clean easily since it's a joke to stop drinking? They poll anyone they will find success because quitting is a joke. I didn't drink Yerba Mate today either, am I "clean" of that?

>>212846759
Not engaging in your women shit besides telling you that you can't handle life.

>>212846756
Not him but just read you two's entire post chain and you sound like a retard. "I never had this problem therefore no one does" - how people with underdeveloped brains think.

I'm turning 21 in exactly 1 month. I've been drinking nearly daily since I turned 18. Be honest for a young druktard - is there any hope?

>>212846756
>addiction isn't real, people who keep using drugs that are ruining their lives should just not care about the drug like me
It's bizarre to know there are people with such lack of empathy. Do you also wonder why parents cry when they lose a child? I mean, you can't feel the pain so it must not be real, right?

>>212846827
No, they should quit because addiction is overblown. Just stop using the drug. You control your hands, moron. Show me evidence of anyone who couldn't stop their hands prepping a syringe or sucking down some spirits? If you cannot stop your hands from doing so, suicide.

>>212846800
are you under the age of 20? if no, then you're severely retarded and emotionally undeveloped

>>212846815
Yea because addiction is a choice. I used to smoke weed and drink almost everyday then I realized I was just being a faggot and stopped. Now I drink once-twice a week and don't touch weed. It's that simple

>>212846800
It's not manly to assume everyone has the same experience with substances. It's childish.

>>212846879
It's childish to claim to lack control over your own body. Might as well say "I couldn't stop myself drunk driving". You'd still hate the driver who killed your mom, huh?

>>212846856
>addiction is overblown.
How do you know this if you've never been addicted to anything?

Have you ever felt love? Or grief? Or any adult emotion? If not, you're a child. If so, imagine a child (who has never experienced it) telling you that emotion is overblown.

>>212846494
there are black people in the area

>>212846892
Love for a person's mother is overblown. Id simply say "sadness... BEGONE!" And I'd stop feeling bad about it. Because I can control myself. Only women cry.

Every addict I've ever known has been inexplicably linked to the number 2.
>I'm good, it's been 2 years since I used
>I'm ok, it's been 2 months.
>I'm fine, it's been 2 weeks.
>I'm alright, it's been 2 days.
>-I NEED A FUCKING HIT/DRINK IT'S BEEN 2 SECONDS

>>212846815
I've been clean for 19 months because my stomach is completely fucked and I burp up a storm when I eat so much as a chocolate piece. Do you want that future?

>>212846908
Not who you replied to but
>used to smoke weed to the point I didn't enjoy things without it
>used to drink half a bottle to a bottle of vodka a day
>used to buy a gram of MDMA every week

It's a choice to be addicted. You need self discipline and to actively stay away from temptation/dealers. That's it

>>212845715 (OP)
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>>212846958
Now you're getting it.
>>212846908
Love's not real, come on.
I have felt all the real emotions (I took most drugs, I've felt more than you nonny) so that avenue is an odd choice.

>>212847021
Let's get it on

>>212846227
But I like it.
>Cheeky old fashioned with breakfast, just enough buzz to drive under the limit and not be self conscious
>Go to work
>Take a few sips from my hip flask at lunch to keep the buzz going
>Go back to work and get all my shit done
>Drive home and finish off the hip flask
>Whisky sour with dinner
>Have some friends or girlfriend over to watch football or Netflix
>3 old fashioned before I can sleep
>Wake up and repeat
>On weekend pretty much go through entire bottle of whisky

>>212846815
I'm 44 and I've been drinking since I was 14. That's 30 years of a life that revolved not around work, or family, but alcohol. You can try to imagine the mess my life is in, but you'd fail. I haven't worked in 20 yeRs. Never had a long term gf. My family don't talk to me any more. I'm bloated and frail, my teeth are black and rotten, I'm pretty sure I stink, and my flat is a dump. No hot water. Toilet doesn't flush. I'm pretty sure my neighbours hate me and I haven't spoken to my one remaining friend in over a week. And I probably have 20-30 more years of this life to endure.

You don't know what giving up looks like, and you don't want to know.

I am dying from 18 years of smoking and drink. Nothing left to do, nothing left to hope for. Thought it was going to take longer and be funner. Ah well, cheers

>>212847104
>44 and still on 4chan
Come on, man. If you're still on 4chan in your 30s that's a problem but your 40s? That's ridiculous.

>>212847127
Literally the only takeaway. This place is for people 39 and younger. Go drink your kahlua elsewhere

>>212847033
>Love's not real
>I have felt all the real emotions
Oh boy are you in for a surprise

>>212847156
His brother died from alcoholism and smoking lol

>>212847161
I am gay, gay men do not experience love. Maybe if I was straight and an addict then I'd have found the real darwinian love that exists in an area of the brain you can point out with a scan or something that's not just "oh, it's like a shitty version of cocaine".

just don't drink, its not hard

>>212847127
4chan didn't exist when I was young. Instead I played in a band, went to parties and clubs, got high, got wasted, and got laid. You're wasting your youth on here. I wasted my youth too but at least I lived.

>NOOOOOOO!!!! I CAN'T STOP I CAN'T STOP!!!!!!!!

I hate these fags. Druk bros are the one who know it's a choice and we actively enjoy ourselves and recommend kino drinks+films. Y'all sad sacks are shitting up the thread

>sitting at bar
>Was actually bought drinks by some girl
>Let out a sigh and gave her smooch and thanks and I walk out
>See her next time I was out
>Explained to her that I will probably bore her out and I'm not a good conversationist
>She said that she didn't care and came closer and did this pucker motion to me all closed eye
>Gave her one of those long tongue licking kiss
>She hung around me regularly now and always takes me on the bar
I like to thank alcohol for giving me a connection

>>212845715 (OP)
Alcoholics need to be arrested and imprisoned for no less than two years. As soon as they're arrested, if they aren't already physically addicted to alcohol, they need to be force fed alcohol until they are addicted. For the first year of imprisonment, they need to be force fed just enough alcohol to constantly keep them on the verge of withdrawing while performing hard manual labor. After the first year, they're given a medical detox and the second year is spent doing hard manual labor while sober. They won't want to drink anymore

>>212847210
Based outgoing bar drinking anon. We're all gonna make it

I am the real rebel. who else a real hippy pothead crazy guy? hacky sack, motherfuckers?!

>>212847206
>Y'all sad sacks are shitting up the thread
Do you know what a thread is? Read the OP again

>>212847305
hell yeah bro I cut up my whole foods card when I found out they support...I can't even say it.

>>212847079
You have an eye for life, eye for beauty.

>>212847182
>gay men do not experience love
You don't speak for all gay men. Neither do I, so I won't claim to know, but I'm pretty sure you have to feel something powerful to make the kind of art that was made by Oscar Wilde, or Freddie Mercury.

>>212847521
Queen sucked.

>>212847691
Compared to what music that you think is better?

>>212847769
There was literally a band called King from the same era, also from the UK that were better than Queen, so you really don't have to look far. Probably Knight and Rook would be better too. Promoted Pawn was much fresher too.

>>212847769
She Drives Me Crazy by Fine Young Cannibals
Walking on Sunshine by Katrina and The Waves

>>212847037
I feel sorry for your missus for the absolute whopping she's about to get mate haha

>>212847079
Grow up

>>212847869
>You didn't think the Lionesses did well in the penalties? Come 'ere!

>>212847807
Are they sung by an aids faggot with a mustache and gaping butthole? Didn't think so

>>212847014
That isn't an addiction, that's called being 15-21.

the people i know that have an addiction don't just have ONE addiction, they have several, and one of their parents is also an addict
is free will even a thing? everything we are is decided by genes
hell, gut bacteria has more to do with who we are how we behave than our nurture or will

>>212848018
I choose to believe people can change but their old self still remains and lingers. I've quit alcohol but fuck me if this shit life doesn't make me want to just go ham on a 12 pack all the fucking time.

>>212848540
Go for it, who regrets the fun times on their death bed? Either way you'll be too sloshed to care! Bottoms up!

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