Honestly, mogs TDK in almost every way. Even the deeper side characters here feel alive unlike in TDK, where most of them just felt like NPCs.

I’ve always been a huge "film over digital" guy and yet to me this movie visually outclasses TDK. TDK is essentially just Heat with Batman and Joker replacing Pacino and De Niro with almost identical visual language. This, on the other hand, feels like a thing of its own. Gotham looks way better here, even better than it did in Begins, which already had a strong aesthetic.

Initial viewing (2022) – 7.5/10
Second viewing (2025) – Emotionally, it felt like a 9/10 right after it finished. But trying to stay objective and not overrate it, I’d settle on a solid 8.5.

IfTDK has any edge, it’s probably in its thematic depth and philosophical exploration, and of course the villain. TDK is more expressive in its character writing and thematic structure. This film however, leans more into mood and visual storytelling, even when it comes to character development.

From a comic book purist’s perspective, neither film might hit the mark. It’s not a Mask of the Phantasm where they perfectly nail the essence of Batman in every single aspect.

But as a direct comparison between these two films, this one takes the win for me.

>Honestly, mogs TDK in almost every way
stopped reading there

>>212861001
Same, sorry op.

>mogs TDK in almost every way
that's not hard to do

I don't know why but none of the scenes are memorable to me aside from the Riddler interrogation and the Batmobile chase. Even the final act with the Riddler incel squad is barely memorable. The mood and visuals are impressive but the actual story beats don't stick with me.

TDK fucking sucks, I don't know why capeslop retards view it as some kind of cinematic achievement

>>212861001
fpbp

>>212860966 (OP)
I appreciated it more after re-watching it too. I hope the same cinematographer returns for Part 2.

>>212860966 (OP)
I liked it a lot but it's about 20-30 minutes too long.

>>212861186
I had a similar experience until I rewatched it. Not that I'm telling you to do the same. But idk why so many things just clicked much better the second time. I think it has a lot to do with the expectations I had during the initial viewing. I wouldn’t call it a perfect movie, but what once was like a 3 star film now feels no less than a 4. Maybe because of watching Penguin and having a better grasp of the world, tone and the storytelling?? who knows

>>212861334
20–30 minutes is way too much. You don’ realize when saying it. A 5 minute scene is already quite long. Realistically I’d say 10.

>>212861001
Might just be the worst Batman movie, honestly. The cinematography is great, but it's outclassed by Nolan and Burton and has the indecency to be 3hrs with such a sloppy mess of a plot

>>212860966 (OP)
I really enjoyed it. The penguin is great too other than the hamfisted vic plotline

Is that vagrant holiday?

>>212860966 (OP)
dark knight feels like a kids movie after watching battinson beat the fuck out of criminals