Did it really deserve all the praise it got? Be honest.

it only got positive reviews because "colonialism bad" is catnip for critics. nobody remembers a single line of dialogue from either film

>>212864087 (OP)
Yes

>>212864087 (OP)
If it came out in 1909 not 2009 then yeah maybe. We got video games now.

Actually, do’t listen to me. Avatar is an epic movie and I like it a lot.

First movie yeah, second could've been better, third will be a shitshow.

>>212864087 (OP)
In terms of special effects, yes

>>212864087 (OP)
These movies are one man's vision fully realized, auteur cinema with $300 million budgets. We'll never see the like again

I agree with everyone else here.

it was the most shilled and spammed film this board ever saw. Only film to be word-filtered by admins.

>>212864445
Shills didn't exist back then. Those were called "fans". Crazy concept, I know.

>>212864087 (OP)
Not even close.

>>212864480
I would agree usually, but the catalogue was flooded with "abatap" threads with few responses. Those were not fans, those were trolls.

>>212864087 (OP)

It deserved more. People always shit on the story but it has a number of pleasing resonances if you're paying attention.

-Jake's costume changes in every. single. scene. This shows a steady progression from human to Na'vi, which is fully completed at the film's conclusion. In Na'vi/Avatar form, he starts out naked, then in hospital gown, then in human-style fatigues. He very quickly loses most of those, then in every scene he gets a bit more face paint, a bit more bling until he becomes Big Dick Indian Chief. Added in with this is a simple timing cue that (human) Jake has been out in the woods for several weeks. He has to shave off a beard before he "goes back to work" to talk with Quaritch.

-Neytiri and the dragon/ikran are alike. As Neytiri advises him, it will be a match when a certain dragon will "try to kill you". The very first thing that Neytiri does with Jake is to attempt to kill him, but she relents due to plot armor. In each case, Jake and the ikran/Neytiri "choose" each other. This free-choice langauge, conventionally acceptable romance, is underlined when they consummate.

-Jake's tactical know-how is shown when he has Max hang back inside the base; he realizes that he needs an inside man for intel. This is validated a short time later when Max passes off the time-critical information that the bomb run will start in the morning. If Jake hadn't set Max as his mole, the bomb run would have retained at least some degree of surprise, and would probably have been successful. Story aside, the battle itself is just absolutely drop-dead gorgeous, while we're at it. One of the most visually beautiful things I've ever seen on a movie screen. Very colorful. The hero on his red steed (the sole patch of red on-screen so we always know where the hero is in phase 1), the grey and light green of the mountains, the dark green camo of the human craft, then the pallette gets darker as the fight concludes on the forest floor.

>>212864480
>Shills didn't exist back then
holy shit. There have been shills forever in all mediums.

>>212864087 (OP)
Yes, it just didn't meet everyone's preferences in a movie. I remember when it came out and not everyone wanted THE special effects movie of the year to be tall blue cat people, but James Cameron did, so we all saw blue tall call movie because the news said it had specialer effects than my Xbox could make. They were right but all that mocap technology, all that facial recognition/reconstruction software they made for the movie, it was all on video game cutscene for years. Felt like they took cutscenes and rendered them to an even fuller extent than we do now. It is impressive, it just wasn't very novel. Cameron kinda just einsteined together a bunch of technique that was already there, but he was the first to do so.
TLDR; yeah but I don't know why the news talked so much about it before it came out, and idk why it's blue cat people.

>>212864543
And the graphics were better too.

>>212864087 (OP)
yes.

>>212864087 (OP)
The immersion factor was off the charts in the first one. Insane stuff.

>>212864087 (OP)
>people killed themselves over it
In a good way though

Where is the "days until avatar 2" guy?
Have not seen any posts for avatar 3
I miss my friend :(

>>212865600
He's with Eywa now...

>>212864087 (OP)
Only watched the first on cinema and it was shit and no one really liked it. It got no praise.

>>212864297
Generative neural network processing means budget doesn’t matter anymore.

>>212864087 (OP)
I never quite understood why people went mental for it, but maybe that's because I didn't see it in 3D (partially blind)

It's a really solid movie in its own right though, incredibly well made and extremely satisfying

>>212865980
The imax3d is pretty much unmatched. Little details like the holo-screens extras are looking at being 3d from their side and flat on the outer side is shit no one else would’ve bothered with, and the movies are stuffed with details like that. Of course all these details are lost outside of the theater. 3D TVs being a total meme because all other 3D content is post-production and just plain shit.

>>212864087 (OP)
its just dances with wolves, but the visuals and actors were good so I enjoyed it

I was also like 13 when it came out.

>>212864543
And Neytiri is a tricky girl. OOPS!

>>212867791
It’s actually at play in the fields of the lord meets John Carter. The only way to compare it to dances with wolves is to have never seen either movie.

>>212864118
I liked the based chud general who was right about everything.

>>212864087 (OP)
The praise was very specific and yes, it deserved it.

>>212870166
kek

Even the avatar trailers are better than any other contemporary trailer by a huge margin

>>212864087 (OP)
>Did it really deserve all the praise it got?
110%

And the praise should have been unequivocal. None of this "good, but" BS. Some critics just don't know how to enjoy top tier kino without taking a sneering attitude towards how universally entertaining it is.

>>212865600
We all do. Blame Putin.

I appreciate when other anons make tribute threads. There can only be one Abatap, but his legacy lives on.

>>212864118
>nobody remembers a single line of dialogue from either film
You are like a baby. Making noise, don't know what to do.

I see you.

Or what, Ranger Rick? You gonna shoot me?

She said all energy is only borrowed, and one day you have to give it back.

I was a Marine. A warrior of the…Jarhead Clan.

Out there beyond that fence. Everything that crawls, flys and squats in the mud wants to kill you and eat your eyes for jujubes

The way of water has no beginning and no end. The sea is around you and in you. The sea is your home before your birth and after your death. Our hearts beat in the womb of the world. Our breath burns in the shadows of the deep. The sea gives and the sea takes. Water connects all things. Life to death. Darkness to light

You're not in Kansas anymore. We're going to Pandora. Now...I know you're all asking yourselves the same question. Why so blue?

>>212874205
I see You.

>>212864087 (OP)
It's been 15 years and we are still talking about this franchise, making daily threads about it, going to the theme park about it, and going to see the third one coming out in a few months...

Gee. Sure do wonder why we talk about it

>>212864087 (OP)
Did you watch the directors cut

Nope

>>212874442
Oel ngati kameie

>>212864087 (OP)
CGIslop garbage

>>212876038
Philistine

No one even really praised it that much tho

>>212872110
Idk anime trailers go really hard sometimes

No one who actually saw Avatar in theatres in 3D circa 2009 would ever question if it was a technical masterpiece.

>>212876354
>bro Disney's Pocahontas but with lazy CGIslop instead of hand drawn animation also the Indians are blue now
What a masterpiece!!!

>>212864087 (OP)
I genuinely never have seen nor heard any praise for Avatar, not one single piece of genuine praise in the past 15 years, ever. Not at any point during the past decade, ever. Just promotional materials and/or paid endorsements.

>>212865980
I saw Way of Water at a zombified nigger mall because I was visiting my parents at the time, and they didn't even have the 3D set up correctly. Every few shots had a weird double-vision effect and I had a splitting headache by the end of it.
Me and one other guy asked for a refund, and the wagie said "uhhhh, I'll get my manager" then just disappeared. The other guy got fed up and left after a few minutes, but I was pissed and waited for around twenty. I eventually asked another wagie and he just shrugged and said "ion know whatchu want me to say man".

I hope Lord Cameron does a full IMAX/3D rerelease of 1 and 2. I felt raped walking back to my truck after that bullshit.

>>212876546
you had to qualify "praise," thus destroyed your assertion.

>>212876905
>t. pajeet

>>212877277
>accuse others of your characteristics to beat them to the punch

Can’t wait for renewed interest in Tuk worship.

>>212864087 (OP)
A pretty movie with a generic unambitious plot. Exactly what Hollywood wishes they could convince everyone was good enough.

>>212864445
Bruh. I never even heard of the movie when it came out. It basically had 0 advertising

>>212877421
>t. shitter in streets

>>212874205

I think you may appreciate this little word quiz on Quaritch's safety briefing.

https://www.sporcle.com/games/Pilgab/you-are-on-pandora

>>212864087 (OP)
Yes, it's better than I remember it being every single time I rewatch it because it stands out from all the garbage out there. James Cameron is the last director making big, spectacular movies that don't have Joss Whedon dialogue

>>212864543
>the connection between Neytiri and the ikran choosing
Shit I never even thought of this

>>212877655
How many times will she get tied up in Fire and Ash?

>>212864087 (OP)
I wish they'd made the navi more catlike

>>212864087 (OP)
Name 50 characters from this movie? I bet you can't do it

>>212864087 (OP)
I was thinking I should 1 and 3 to get ready for the new one comic out. Then I looked at my history it says I watched them two nights ago??

>>212879960
Yes

>>212879960
At least one for every billy it makes. So possibly 3

I don't like Lo'ak. He's the least of the Sully children. Looking forward to an eventual time skip so he can hopefully be very different.

>>212883100
>Lo'ak
He's kind of a bellend but he's clearly going to be incredibly important going forward considering bow much time TWoW dedicated to him

>>212883592
can't believe he killed his brother

>>212870166
MAH JAKE

>>212864087 (OP)
Fuck you, it was fun

>But muh Dances with Wolves
>But muh cliches
>But muh blue space cats win
>But muh peepeepoopoo dingdong vagina

I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, shut the fuck up. I liked it, it was fun. End of discussion.

We are #NaviNation

>>212874205
Based abatap bro

>>212884299
I'm with this guy

>>212876485
The one thing you objectively can't call these is "slop". More effort goes into one Avatar film than an entire franchise. Christ sake, he hired experts to create an entire fauna system just to accurately portray that in the background

>>212885299
Checked and agreed

>>212864087 (OP)
It got shit on like crazy.

>>212864087 (OP)
>Did it really deserve all the praise it got?
What "praise" exactly are you referring to

The movie was essentially just a 2+ hour promo show for 3D technology, Nobody cared about the plot or the blue aliens dying

>>212873596
I went to a nude spa recently. Good on her for not being self concious

>>212887854
You're coping so hard you're gonna have a stroke, bud. It topped the box office records because everyone loved it kek

>>212888978
why didn't they release the extended version of the movie in 4k?

>>212889032
They did...?

>lost to the hurt locker
That should tell you everything about it

>>212887736
>my nerdy ass excited for them to put the jellyfish aliens in the Flights of Passage ride

>>212889032
they released it in 3D4k at that. you know for the six people with a 3D4k tv.

>>212889078
Literally what on earth are you talking about?

>>212874442
ICU

>>212864445

0/10 you're just butthurt

>>212864087 (OP)
Yes
3 billies for the 3rd movie

>>212891362
Imagine how silly Quaritch would look if still in his human form

>>212891563
Ngl, im looking forward to these two probably the most.

Does anyone have the download link for the new trailer in hd?

>>212874205
>why so blue
K I N O

will Säyla be in avatar 3?

>>212864087 (OP)
If it did people would actually fucking remember it so no.

>>212864087 (OP)
this kino is underappreciated if anything

>humans have literal space travel technology
>they don't just nuke the savage blue monkeys from orbit

yeah nah, Cameron you're a fucking hack

>>212892044
Yes, Norm's wife

>>212892139
They did, retard. Try watching the movie instead of tiktoks.

>>212892428
icky age gap

>>212892522
Eywa gave her blessing to the union.

>>212892069
>f it did people would actually fucking remember it
I remember it and sequel just fine, while watching both once in a theater.
This shit is pretty fucking memorable actually.

>>212892665
Eywa would never bless Norm because he's not a na'vi and doesn't believe she exists

>>212892916
Neytiri and Jake were mated for life before he was full Na'vi. And Norm has lived there long enough to believe. He just also believes in science which is also provably real. Also, Norm was the one instructing Jake on who Eywa was, how important she was to Na'vi, and trying to help explain to the RDA that she was real and measurable to get them not to destroy the trees. He's really gotten treated like shit in the story despite making sacrifices just like Jake. Gave up his family and any chance of ever going back to Earth too.

>>212893039
Jake is a based retard that unironically believes Eywa is an actual goddess which Eywa likes.
Norm thinks Eywa is what the na'vi call a web of electric impulses and that Kiri has autism which Eywa dislikes. He will continue to endure shit tests until he can See

>>212889109
>3D4k
kek. HDfags are a spiritually raped people. lossless 480p is all you need.

Cameron offered to revive Michelle Rodriguez's character for the sequels and she turned him down. She said she's always getting killed and coming back and hates it.
>I came back in Resident Evil, I wasn't supposed to. I came back in Machete, I wasn't supposed to. I came back with Letty [in Fast & Furious], I wasn't supposed to. We can't do a fourth [movie resurrection], that would be overkill!

>>212864087 (OP)

Avatar 2009 is Cameron's second best movie. It works as a self-contained story, it can be enjoyed without the sequels.

>>212893237
Daym
I get why they cut shit like Neytiri's stister and Norm/Rodrigez relationships.
Both would detract focus from the main story and may shift the perception of the watchers.
But daym

>>212893205
Why do you keep posting this?

>>212893759
because it's true, and i will be the change that stops people from buying visual bloat.

>>212893961
It had nothing to do with whet I fucking said though you retard, I was talking about the little jellyfish aliens and how I want to see them in Flights.

>>212894013
i quoted the wrong person i'm afraid.

>>212894043
You also spam that in dozens of Avatar threads like a psychopath.

>>212893534
imagine if Sylwanin hadn't died and Jake fucked both

Hurt Locker vs Avatar during the Academy Awads had plenty of threads. There are arguments whether Biglelo's Oscar wins was earned and not just another case of checkbox checking bsck then. I can't remember the words used back then and this was from 2009.

The trailer is pretty hype iirc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_h6QCJ9JnM

>>212874205
Hello bro(tha)!

The trail was pure hype iirc
The trailer is pretty hype iirc

It got Millenials on the 3D Bandwagon pretty much convincingly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PSNL1qE6VY

>>212864087 (OP)
Everyone knows that these movies are just popular because of the CGI because they have zero cultural impact and they're forgotten five minutes after they've been watched.
I think the next one might bomb, but, I don't know how the second one made so much money so what do I know?

>>212864087 (OP)
No

>>212895749
>I think the next one might bomb
Yeah, I'm sure that THIS TIME James Cameron is going to flop

>>212895963
Never bet against James Cameron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIC22gQfh6E

>>212895963
I suppose that in a world where the Jurassic Park movies consistently make bank, anything is possible.

>>212895749
>I think the next one might bomb
Sorry, anon, but based on the shit shown in the trailer, i can already tell we are going to get some good shit that will 100% touch the broad audience, once again.
Its not going to flop.

>>212873596
you wouldn't happen to have... uh... hq pictures of zoe half naked in the jungle?

>movies have incredibly spread out releases
>still retain their audience to the tune of billions of dollars
We don't praise Avatar enough.

>>212896758
if its keeps going, it could be the only billion dollar franchise per film in its category. Auteur driven blockbuster filmmaking as its most technical and technological.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIC22gQfh6E

>>212896758
>movies have incredibly spread out releases
It used to be how star wars was. Long periods in between and each movie a big event. Not just plopped out back to back.

MCU shits out 50 movies a year with insane budgets and mid CGI
>omg so brave
Avatar produces 1 movie every few years that completely pushes the boundaries of special effects
>fuck Cameron and his hubris!

>>212864087 (OP)
It was a little overhyped, but it was good and new IP.

>>212896958
Yes that’s right, star wars is a dead brand now because they made too many great movies too fast, not because the movies were shit.

>>212896965
>t. No one, ever