Thread 212898906

>shitty earth parents = movie bad
>shitty krypton parents = movie good

>>212899028
Yes because the Superman myth is about the American Dream and being an immigrant who assimilates and becomes the best example of the American way. Superman is supposed to represent America, not Krypton. It doesn't matter what his Kryptonian parents are like. If his American parents are bad influences on him then it's anti-American. If they're the source of his superheroics and good heart then it's pro-American.

>>212899167
>supposed to represent America
>changed the quote from the “American way”

>>212899167
thats weird, so why are they trying to phase out Truth Justice and the American way then??

>>212899167
American is when good parents

>>212898906 (OP)
>After all... why shouldn't I rape?

>>212898906 (OP)
the kents have always been the reason why Superman is Superman, not the fucking L's

>>212899224
the american way tag line doesn't work today, to masturbatory, the american way pretty much won this century already

>>212899224
>>212899249
Because people around the world hate America now. Just look at the box office, big hit domestically, flop overseas. They changed it in 2021 in the Trump era to stop people turning on Superman abroad. Didn't really work though going off this movie's box office splits but that was the intention. He's still all-American.

>>212899224
>>212899249
1) They didn't want international ticket sales to be even lower.
2) Assume Gunn is an old-fashioned liberal who believes sincerely believes these values should be universal even if they're predominantly associated with pre-Trump America.

>>212899290
This. Entire story is he is a refugee that integrated into the US

>>212899289
>would it even be rape if it only lasted for a micro second?

>>212898906 (OP)
>I have diabeetus.

>>212899265
Yes because the message is that someone raised in the heartland of America will be a better person than someone not.

>>212899341
Why would a classic superman phrase that reinforces the themes of the movie and cements pro immigration harm the sales? What?

>>212899330
But being an immigrant is a universal theme, maybe they should stick to the fundamental traits of the character and people would respect it more.

>>212899324
>the american way tag line doesn't work today, to masturbatory
go back to whatever shithole you came from

>>212899330
It was even before then. Superman Returns got rid of it. “Truth, Justice and that other stuff” DC followed shortly after

Stop, my invincible dog

>>212898906 (OP)
I hope this fat nigga doesn't die IRL before the sequel.

>>212899224
>trying to erase it mentioned the American way in the first place
It’s an American character esl

>>212899330
>now

>>212899388
>Superman speaking French
Pro immigration SLOP, he came over here and won't even speak English. Fuck this woke shit.

>>212899375
>it should have "and the American way" as part of the tagline
>calls America a shithole
lol

>Immigration is fundementally American! Hes an inherently American hero!
>t-truth justice and the american way? Uhhh- t-that would hurt sales!!

>>212898906 (OP)
FINISH WINDS OF WINTER GODDAMN IT!

>>212899441
kek

>>212899427
Wait a minute. I just realized. He doesn't fucking say "the human way" at any point in the movie. So that was just chudoid faggot lies. lol

>>212899373
>"Why would Superman explicitly endorsing the 'American way' at a time when perceptions of America are at an all-time low hurt sales?"
Are you actually retarded?

>>212899427
Both factually true. Literally only Americans showed out to theaters to see this movie.

Superman gets his character from his Kansas parents, so it makes sense they are the “good ones”. I like that they changed his Krypton parents - it created an interesting dilemma.

>>212899028
Krypton has been a fucked up shithole in the main canon since 1985. Jetsons Krypton hasn't been a thing for 40 years.

imagine how awful a superman raised by millenial parents would be

so, immigrants can only be okay if they arrive as infants and are raised by americans, because their real parents would have them invade, subjugate and terrorize the locals?

>>212899539
yes

>>212899167
>the Superman myth

The Superman MYTHOS, is a play on Nietzschean philosophy on the "superman", (as in "man" is something to overcome).

The "immigrant issue" wasn't even a thing back in the 1920s and 30s. North America was suffering through the great depression, which left all sorts of people without hope, or awareness of their (lack of) inner strength.... Superman was just a man, with god-like (can do anything) powers, his greatest power was naivety, believing his earthly notions of humanity and humility made him more relatable, and being a god above regular people... and therein is why the Superman mythos is appealing...Superman's lesson is just about being 'a good person', no matter how big or small you are.

....today, with all the woke-slop whipping around in pop culture, it's become about 'immigration', and somehow Superman has become a symbol for all the beaners and poopinders flooding into the country with open arms.... but less about measuring a man's worth now, just telling overtaxed people to step aside and let foreigners burden the infrastructure with Superman cheering them on.

>>212899567
>The "immigrant issue" wasn't even a thing back in the 1920s and 30s
There is no fucking way you're this much of a cocksucking fucking retard, holy shit.

>>212899519
thank god for old fashioned rural kansas liberals

>>212899481
It was a based change, it does nothing for his character if both sets of parents are the same.
In this incarnation:
>If Superman is raised on Krypton he becomes a murderer and roipist who subjugates and forces women into his harem
>If Superman is raised on a good ole Kansas farm he becomes pure of heart with upstanding values and is a model citizen

>>212899539
Well yes. Most people would agree that immigrants should be instilled with the values of the country they live in. No one likes when they form ethnic ghettoes, refuse to learn the language, and act hostile to the locals.

>>212899596
Cool it with the antisemitism

I haven't seen nor do I intent to see the superman movie

What is this about him raping earthlings?

Global box office is not as bad as being reported. Heat wave is over in UK and Superman still at #1 with a solid hold and just did really well in Australia after getting released. Only country it’s doing bad in is China. Japan just released one of their own movies so that’s obviously going to take the top spot

i rewacthed the whedon justice league movie, i forgot Cavil was actually really likable in that film what the fuck

>>212898906 (OP)
What would Snyder's Pa Kent would say?
>Maybe you should rape them invincible son?

>>212899680
What happens when you don’t got a Batman homer handling Superman

>>212899567
If Superman really represented who you're saying he does, he'd be speaking Kryptonian and staying in his Kryptonian ice cave with his cousin wife and 8 kids and not helping out or taking part in the community at all, and refusing to be called an earth name like "Clark". He stands for old-style 40s immigrants who would take American names, take local jobs, and raise their kids as Americans. It became taboo to talk about immigrant assimilation but the pendulum is swinging back and this is who we are saying we want if immigration is to continue because it only became an issue after they stopped assimilating.

Using powers for "good" is the stupidest shit ever. No one believes this or would do this and would only completely satisfy their own agenda. I would personally genocide most of humanity and then enslave the rest of it. Simply because there are too many people and are crowding out all other wildlife and the Earth is turning to shit because of it.

>>212899028
I'm not a fan of the evil Jor-El storyline, but the Kents are far more important.

>>212899516
Superman has been shit since 1985, that's correct

>>212899596
>No one likes when they form ethnic ghettoes, refuse to learn the language, and act hostile to the locals.
FOBs would be really mad at this if they understood English.
When exactly did the Left collective decide that moving to a different country with no intention of assimilating or learning the language should be encouraged? Most immigrants who end up in the US or Canada have contempt for the local culture and think the locals exist to service them.

>>212899424
Worse, he's speaking cat, while addressing his dog. It's the highest form of disrespect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ7uZ4orXxo

>>212899567
>The "immigrant issue" wasn't even a thing back in the 1920s and 30s.

This movie sucked ass. I'm not going to take a lesson on "kindness" from leftists. #SUPERBORING

>>212899741
good luck with that Chudseid

>>212899741
holy based

>>212899539
Immigrants are never okay.

>>212899741
You’d do that. Clark Kent is a based character because he loves everyone and everything. The new movie nailed his character.

>>212899586
>There is no fucking way you're this much of a cocksucking fucking retard, holy shit.

Fuck you nigger faggot pedo retard.....L2context fuckin' asshole.. you think kids were buying Superman comics to read up on all the wonderful things fresh-off-the-boat stock was bringing into the country?... Fuck no, they bought these books pretending to fly and fight crime, just to believe in anything because their whore mothers were too broke during the depression explain the woes of the world to them.....

You think people read comics because they want to escape with stories about a bunch of beaners trying to take back PURCHASED land?.... you dumb fuck.

>>212899654
The people are simple and profoundly confused. Weak of mind, spirit, and body. Lord over the planet as the last son of Krypton. Dispatch of anyone unable or unwilling to serve you Kal-El. Take as many wives as you can so your genes and Krypton's might and legacy will live on in this new frontier. Do us proud our beloved son. Rule without mercy.

This is the message Bradley Cooper's Jor-El delivers to Superman in the film. Basically turning Kryptonians into Viltrumites who want to conquer Earth. It's used as a shitty way to get Superman into prison so the rest of plot can happen because Gunn is an overrated story teller.

>>212899741
You obviously think like a child. I can't blame you for feeling out of place in a world that encourages social atomization, though

>>212899754
The cat is speaking french. This is the result of 30 years of leftism.

>>212899703
>You're superior to us and should be selfish with all your desires, not taking into account those of us. You can save or you can rape, don't take us into account when you decide.

>>212899770
I said what I said pleb.... L2context.

>>212899748
>When did the Left decide X?
>Is that a wedge?
>Can I use it in my Alinsky ploy?
>Will it make a bunch of old farts and rednecks grump so I can scream in victimized agony?

>>212899792
Superman crying about his image on Twitter is not nailing his character

>>212899741
>holds you against a cactus

>>212899860
>He didn’t snap his neck? Pathetic. MurderMan does not approve

>>212899741
you are the reason why people want this superman in their lives today

>>212899802
Bro in the 1940s the Superman radio show did a broadcast about Superman fighting the KKK. People have always been interested in mixing their political beliefs into fiction because politics is just a real world application of moral values.

>>212899892
the funny thing is you didn't need to edit that image to make it anymore dark and unfriendly than it already was

>>212899792
>he loves everyone and everything.
Just because you love your dog doesn't mean you let dogs or women have power and vote in elections.

>>212899935
why not, we let you vote

>>212899824
You're not thinking rationally about what being with unlimited power would actually do.

>>212899929
Don't talk shit about Brightburn like that

>>212899992
It's a fantasy to inspire people to be the best they can be, go watch The Sois you autist.

>>212899224
All he had to do was change it to the REAL AMERICAN way, stupid BITCH

>>212899992
Have fun thinking rationally in cwcville

>>212899841
If you accept Superman as a character who believes in the good that resides in every human being, of course he'd be the type to have a very liberal view on immigration and asylum. It seems like what you actually want to argue is that Superman is a bit too naive, and you prefer Batman's more pragmatic approach.

>>212900110
No one gives a fuck about what Superman thinks on those issues

>>212900110
>Superman is a bit too naive, and you prefer Batman's more pragmatic approach.
And any good story for either interrogates these characteristics and questions of they're flaws, yet people who don't read the comics think they're supergeniuses by pointing it out. I roll my eyes every time someone posts "lol is Batman retarded did he never think about he'd be reducing the murders in the world by just killing the Joker???" as if that isn't the thematic focus of like half of all Batman storylines.

>>212899894
Gunn's superman is childish and unrealistic.

>>212899788
this nigga got folded by a lantern of all things, ain't been the same since

>>212899858
He was being falsely accused of crimes he didn't do, which is explicitly something Superman would do you brainrotted freak.

The actual immigrant Superman is the one from Gods and Monsters who literally landed on the Mexican border and grew up as an illegal. Normal Superman might as well been born in Kansas.

>>212900252
Green Lantern rings are theoretically stronger than Kryptonians, most GLs just don't have the willpower to dial it up to 11

>>212900258
Blowing up and whining about it to his girlfriend of 3 months in an interview is also not nailing his character. This version of Superman is a pussy and nothing more than a joke

>>212900410
A JELLY DONUT?

>>212900435
close but no cigar

>>212900462
Imagine being so fat you look at Superman's dad and think about bagels

>>212899344
Created by two Jews.
Yes we know Scholmo, you can't stop thinking about all those immigrants.

>>212899892
The beauty of Snyder's Superman is you can tell there is an internal conflict about whether he should waste his time with humans because he sees their true nature. So it's hard for him to worry about saving them.

>>212900591
refugee =/= immigrant

>>212899388
kek

>>212899726
Yeah,... that isn't even a thing to begin with....

You're literally going from one extreme to another, assuming anything based on german philosophy would be directly related to Nazi-style fascism. .... be better than that...

Superman is a near-god in these books. And his greatest strength/weakness is his human nativity that he learned growing up with human parents. Yeah, he could have the power to subjugate us, but he chooses not to... Instead he chooses to be the best version humanity anyone can achieve to be... that's the whole point.

...again, not to be a figurehead for mooching immigrants, thinking he's a symbol for every

>>212900348
You've been crying for a decade because people made fun of MoS, you might be projecting a little calling someone else a pussy.

>>212899911
And there were issues where Superman was fighting Nazis and Communist, Mafia, and corrupt capitalist.... what's your point?

>>212900252
That's Mongul Jr. who's weaker I thought and his dad is dead

>>212900799
I was talking about pic rel

>>212898906 (OP)
There's other ways to get to the same end result
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aj2t4TVGSo

>>212899808
> Gunn is an overrated story teller
Calling him a story teller at all is giving him too much credit. He's an untalented shmuck.

>>212900860
That was embarassing at least at the time Hal was literally made of Will and his ring shit on anything made by the Guardians and supercharged Kyle and made him a retard

>>212899788

That's the coolest depiction of Zod I've ever seen

>>212900860
>dat ass on green lantern
you know, as a kid growing up i wasn't reading comic books for the plot, let me tell you

>>212900212
>it's childish and unrealistic to love your fellow man and believe in wanting to see the best in everyone

superman really is punkrock

How do they circumcise Kryptonians? Do they have to do it with a Krptonite ccalpel?

How big do you think Superman is? Being SUPERman, he must be like 8 inches at least.

>>212901178
bold to assume they have human like penises

>>212899741
>would only completely satisfy their own agenda
What if their agenda is saving lives and helping people? This is the precise nature of the power fantasy superheroes represent, after all. The desire to be able to do more when you see the world in trouble.

>>212901206
Realistically, Superman's super-jizzum would penetrate a woman like a bullet and kill her

>>212901206
thankfully lois slept around in college so she's wide enough nowadays

>>212901178
They don't have powers on Krypton because it has a red sun. Their dicks are just as circumcizable as a human's.

>>212901260
>Hancock “Mountaintop” scene

>>212901353
Where the fuck is that from?
Until I hear it from Jerry Siegal he has mandibles on his dick

>>212900720
>Implying I think there's ever been a good Superman movie

>>212901483
He is indistinguishable from a human, physically. Why would that be different?

>>212901451
That's funny, but it's heavily implied that they have sex. If this were true, they probably WOULD NOT have sex. But they do.

>>212899028
Clark’s real parents have always been the Kents. Jonathan and Martha are the ones he calls dad and mom

>>212901234
Yes, it's completely a progressive delusion. The world would need to offer Superman something in exchange. Just do go good and be helpful is fucking stupid. Gunn himself gets paid millions to write this bullshit. He's not doing it for free.

>>212900770
That's exactly my point. Superman isn't devoid of politics, generally not too on-the-nose about it but he's usually represented as someone with basically the same values you'd expect of a social worker.

>>212901451
Image is too low res. Can someone translate.

>>212899441
underrated

>>212898906 (OP)
Did it seem to anyone else like he was fucked up on something, why was he talking so slow

>>212902305
They made him a bumbling retard

>>212898906 (OP)
>what was I supposed to do!? rape them?!
>maybe…

>>212902396
Yeah, it's one thing to be slow of speech but having him screw up Lois' name was enough to make it clear they were doing him dirty.
Is Smallville still the best live action representation of him?

>>212899519
I was thinking as I watched the montage of young him at the end that this would be the last opportunity for a Superman that grew up without smartphones being ubiquitous.

>>212899224
>>212899249
friendly reminder that they didn't even finish the quote in superman returns, which was released in the midst of the iraq and afghanistan wars
simply put, don't make superman american when america is busy raping the middle east

>>212899593
>old fashioned rural kansas liberals
this isn't what you think it is kek, kansas liberals are literally klansmen

>>212899567
>The "immigrant issue" wasn't even a thing back in the 1920s and 30s
apex retard
the immigration issue has been a thing since america was founded

>>212900017
>REAL AMERICAN
>LEMMEBEREALWITHYOUBROTHER intensifies

>>212899808
>Dispatch of anyone unable or unwilling to serve you Kal-El. Take as many wives as you can so your genes and Krypton's might and legacy will live on in this new frontier.
Literally Gunn self inserting.

>>212901132
you really have no idea what punk rock is kek
you and every other redditor that keeps spewing that nonsense just shows how out of touch with reality you people are

>>212899596
>No one likes when they form ethnic ghettoes, refuse to learn the language, and act hostile to the locals.
Democrat sisters is this racist?

>>212901546
>If this were true, they probably WOULD NOT have sex
women will tolerate anything for the greatest man on the earth. If he had a scat fetish, it would be more disgusting, and women would still happily oblige.