OK, 3 2 1 let's jam

>>umm actually making Jet a nigger, Fay an ugly asian and Spike 55 years old and asian was a good decision becauseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>212914568
>HIS NAME IS LITERALLY JET BLACK
>but he doesn't look black
>BUT HIS VA IS BLACK
>but his face isn't black
>BUT HE'S BIG AND STRONG, WHICH (TO ME) MEANS HE'S BLACK CODED
>he has white skin

>>212914568
>asian
She's mexican

>>212914624
Dios Mio, that makes it worse somehow

>>212914568
Black Jet was the only good casting joice /pol/tranny.

>>212914656
>>212914607

>>212914656
I knew redditors like you would say this before I even posted it.
Kill yourself cuck faggot
Don't you have some bbc porn to spam?

>>212914476 (OP)
>"SPIIIIIIIKE!!!!!!! SPIKE SPIEGELLLLLL!!!!!!!!!"
>gets fired on her birthday
What did Netflix mean by this?

>>212914476 (OP)
what A-Con year was this cosplay photo from?

>>212914668
>Don't you have some bbc porn to spam?
Lmao this guy’s definitely from /pol/

ahh yes, good old Netflix quality

>>212914624
>She's mexican
tengo dudas al respecto...

>>212914476 (OP)
go woke go broke

>>212914476 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yifLZ91NeBA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHVXbOwsM0

>>212914853
I'm from /pol/, had it been us we wouldn't have called him black. Even if we're trying to keep your obese tranny jannie diabetes queens happy by not using the most obvious euphemism, we have libraries of slurs to use in its place.

Joggers. Youths. College kids. Gifted performers. Community leaders. Peaceful protestors. Juveniles. Church goers. Bus passengers. Repeat offenders. Masked assailants. Restaurant patrons.

And so on.

>>212914607
>but I did eat breakfast this morning

>>212914476 (OP)
the casting is so ass

>>212914476 (OP)
how does the anime hold up?

>>212914476 (OP)
Wait, why does she have cum on her hand?

>>212915093
the anime holds up well because it was never a pile of flaming garbage like the live action show was

>>212915093
I just learned Faye is a lesbian in the live action.

>>212915775
I think they misunderstood what femme fatale meant, and thought it was the same as feminist

How did the same company who found only ridicule from making this earned great praise form their adaption of One Piece?

>>212914607
There's a whole episode where Jet tracks down a black criminal who he helped bring in when he was a cop. Jet and the black dude are drawn and colored completely differently.
I don't actually care if they wanted to "race lift" Jet, they just shouldn't claim that a clearly light skinned character was actually racially ambiguous.
>>212915775
Right, because God forbid a woman have interest in a man in a TV show.

>>212915923
It's almost like people are capable of learning from mistakes

>>212915923
one piece always came off as a goofy show. cowboy bebop had humor in the anime but overall it was not goofy in tone. the netflix writers tried to turn it into a sitcom tier comedy and it was terrible. i assume they did not do this with one piece, or maybe their fans are just dumber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TML15rDOvMs

>>212914607
>>BUT HE'S BIG AND STRONG, WHICH (TO ME) MEANS HE'S BLACK CODED
Every time people attempt to explain to me what "black coded" means they just reveal how racist/fetishistic they are.

>>212916139
>Right, because God forbid a woman have interest in a man in a TV show.
LOOOOL

>>212915923
>How did the same company who found only ridicule from making this earned great praise form their adaption of One Piece?
Sar One Piece is very good media

>>212915093
It's episodic.
Meaning there were 14 different writers on it and the quality varies wildly between episodes.
About 3/4 of them are filler.
A handful of them are superb.

Overall it's inconsistent, and Shinichiro Watanabe's other shows have far better writing and far better jazz music soundtracks (Samurai Champloo and Kids on the Slope).

>>212916202
But all the criticism that were given to Cowboy Bebop could be given to One Piece
>inaccurate casting
>terrible dialog
>cheap sets

>>212917158
One Piece fans have no standards

>>212915923
Netflix One Piece is just as terrible and cringe its just that they have a brown zoomer retard fanbase that enjoys braindead shonenslop

>>212914476 (OP)
this might be the most brutal memory hole of all time

>>212915093
One of the greatest anime series of all time and it can be loved by anime aficionados and casual viewers alike

>>212917766
Yeah, pretty much this. Cowboy Bebop is a classic beloved anime. One Piece fandom autism level is rivaled only by bronies and funko pop collectors.

>>212915775
Not really, she's more like bisexual. Just that a woman flirts with her and she's curious about it. In fact it's done in a pretty creepy way because she's so unsure about being hit on by a woman, but the woman keeps pushing her despite her reluctance. Like if it was a man doing it to a woman people would really hate it.

>>212917837
>people would really hate it
Zoomers aren't people.

>I think it's time for the gang to transition
>lets pick up the estrogen and dilate
>Ok, 321 lets jam

>>212914476 (OP)
For me this was the turning point of online communities trying to salvage train wrecks.
So many people telling me "No dude, you're wrong! This thing is gonna be fire!"

>>212915093
I re-watch it every year or two. It still holds up incredibly well in pretty much every aspect. It's only a few things that have aged poorly.

>>212914914
no way this is real

>>212918102
It's real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inVBz0Tv03U

>>212914568
Ugly unsexy Faye was the biggest fuck up.

>>212914914
Unfiltered kino

>>212918199
She made it even worse by lashing out at OG Bebop fans calling them incels and doing that whole shtick. If she just kept her fucking mouth shut it wouldn't have been as bad.

>>212914476 (OP)
>For close to thirty years people kept saying cowboy bebop was the most western adaptable anime out there
>People kept making their fantasy casts and shit for decades
>It finally happens
>It's one of those projects where a literally who uses a franchise to trojan horse their own shitty writing
>Canceled after one season
>No one's sad about it

>>212914853

>>212914568
>>212914607
Black Jet was the most accurate portrayal of the character. The actor really gave it all and even mimicked the voice, he would be considered perfect if only he looked pale

>>212918654
nobody cares boomer. you are 45 and on 4chan

It was unironically great. Much better than, say, my dogshit life. I'd rather wach Cowboy Bebop than go through this hell consciously.

>>212918834
Cry more zoomzoom

how no one was executed over this is remarkable

>>212918102
As bad as that is, it's not even close to being the worst moment. They have Vicious waxing lyrical about having someone shave his balls. They have Spike murdering a child (who's running away). https://youtu.be/Erb2x5SQHd8

>>212918909
>They have Spike murdering a child (who's running away)
Badass.

>>212918778
Maybe he did do the best with what he got. Trouble is, they also turned the character into a divorced loser who won't shut up about his daughter and is repeatedly submissive to/outshone by women.

>>212914476 (OP)
she loks so much like Jessica Nigri in this

>>212918966
That's not Spike, though. Not even remotely. (And it doesn't come off as badass, as he agonises over it, and it's unclear whether he gained anything from it.)

>>212917837
>she's more like bisexual
Except that she shows zero interest in any man, and they turned her ex from the anime into a surrogate mother figure. So she's more like a lesbian who claims to be bi because she's lying to her family, or herself.

>>212914476 (OP)
>when the straight up race swap was far and away the least offensive casting of the lot
what the fuck were they thinking?

>>212919049
>and it's unclear whether he gained anything from it.
Experience. He won't let it happen again. That's much better writing than having him be an unstoppable kung fu machine with endless one-liners and a sudden death wish.

>>212914476 (OP)
Still mad about this. John Cho was such a bad choice
It's cool he watched or liked the show or whatever, and I don't hate the guy
but he doesn't have the natural innate charisma to play Spike

>>212918969
That's a writing issue, the whole show was a mess from the beginning there's no fixing it

>>212914568
Faye is literally from Singapore though, she was always Asian.

>>212914914
Not gonna lie, this line made me actually laugh out loud

>>212915676
That's residue from the transmogrified corpse of a white incel (which the dog also pissed on). I'm not joking -this actually happens.

>>212919235
Of all the things to defend... Yes, theoretically, you could do some interesting character stuff with this (it still wouldn't be "Spike", but whatever). What actually happens: they show him murdering a fleeing child when he almost certainly didn't have to, the VR version of "Julia" (who's also a cunt) in that one VR episode taunts him about it, and "Vicious" calls him out on how out-of-character it was (in a possible attempt at lampshading). Otherwise it has no effect on him at all. Also:
>unstoppable
He died at the end.
>endless one-liners
In the remake he's far, far more quippy - and the quips are all terrible.
>sudden death wish
>sudden
He's haunted by Julia and her death leaves him with basically nothing (except his friendship with Jet), so he seeks revenge against the guy responsible, without caring about the risk to himself.

>>212919271
He didn't pay much attention if he did watch any of it. This is clear from some of the promotional stuff they did.

>>212919370
Correct - and they cast a dumpy Mexifornian.

>>212914624
Arr rook samu

>>212914607
>BUT HIS VA IS BLACK
No he isn't. His VA is Japanese.

>>212915750
I really hate how they made Vicious a hapless retard. In the anime he had this intensity that is lost in the live action.

>>212919703
They had him appear in every episode, and constantly talking (a feature of millennial writing - everyone has to be constantly flapping their gums). Even without the really retarded stuff, that was guaranteed to render him mundane.

>>212918654
The Habbo Hotel raids originally started because the game admins had been victimising character accounts with dark skin.
Don't speak of shit you don't know about you larping faggot.

>>212914607
Meanwhile
>But his name is Spike Speigl
>ASIAN

>>212919943
Spike is literally Japanese. Its confirmed by the creator.

>>212918643
It should have been made 20 years ago with Keanu playing Spike.

>>212918643
Regular ass Cowboy Bebop is right next to it on the same app.

Live action adaptations are just an on-ramp for normalfags and boomers who think watching animation makes you a fucking baby.

>>212919836
Is that the headcannon leftypol is going with nowadays?

>>212919319
Yes: he arguably did the best with what he got - and that's what he got. I don't agree with the implication that the writers/showrunner were sincerely trying to make something good/true to the original and messed up, though.

As soon as I saw this announced I forgot about it and thought it was scrapped. This thread is horrifying.

>>212919836
>Habbo Raids were social justice
There really is no history is there? Everything that happens just gets repackaged for the current day, forever.

>>212919953
Correct. It's been deboonked many times, but people still push this.
>At Otakon 1999, Watanabe stated at the anime panel that the name Spike Spiegel was chosen because he liked the sound only, not because of Jewish origins. Kawamoto based Spike's hairstyle and appearance on the Japanese actor, Yusaku Matsuda

>>212919235
>sudden death wish
bruh, the entire anime builds up to it. he tracks down vicious twice only to basically kamikaze himself both times. hell, every mission he's in he nearly gets himself killed, and jet chastises him for it repeatedly.

>>212918654
lol do you think the black men in a swastika formation was a pro nazi protest?

>>212918862
Brown?

>>212919691
We're talking about tge superior enflish dub, chink.

>>212920182
NTA, but while you're right, Jet still doesn't come off as black, and Netflix would have blacked the character regardless.

>>212920182
What language is enflish?

Harold and Kumar 4 when

>>212917772
I'm still surprised it got off so (comparatively) lightly. Everyone knows it was shit, sure, but for something so thoroughly shit, it didn't get anywhere near the attention other terrible remakes have.

>>212914476 (OP)
it was shit which to be honest is the most accurate version of bebop

I enjoyed it

They should have casted Cho 5-10 years earlier though

Netflix unintentionally gave us the perfect casting for live-action Black Lagoon.

Also
>cringy juvenile humor
>campy tone
>Faye's character is accidentally a good Revy
It all lines up

>>212920039
Nowadays it more for modern anime fans who are scared to watch anime made before 2012 in case it is "problematic".

>>212921209
What did you enjoy about it?

>>212921174
everyone knew it would be another netflix joint
when it was "cosplayers make a fan film at a convention" level unwatchable, no one bothered to bash it. it crossed the line from horror into gore and there's nothing to say at that point

>>212914568
Jet was the only okay thing in this.

>>212915093
Kinda like X-Files are 100 Bullets a lot of case of the week episodes and then you'll hit an episode explaining why Spike or Faye is there and then you hit the end which is closing out the story of Spike and his involvement with both his crews.

>>212921383
Maybe. I dunno. I found Ghostbusters 2016 similarly unwatchable, for instance, and that got roasted. Admittedly that was a much more mainstream property.

Why'd they make Jet a nigger again?

>>212914656
we don't all worship niggers bro. some of us would like to see what a faithful attempt at recreated some of this stuff would look like, instead we get retards like you kek

>>212919593
>Kills a kid
This guy? Did they change it in the love action?

>>212918654
there's nothing political about the standard health and safety formation

>>212922160
No, that guy didn't feature at all. It was some girl who was maybe affiliated to a rival gang he slaughtered (this was in a flashback episode).

>>212922315
(It's almost as if they deliberately went out of their way to trash the character.)

>>212917102
>About 3/4 of them are filler.
I genuinely pity you zoomers

>>212914476 (OP)
>heres the kid i was telling you about

spike being older than jet, and twice the age of faye really fucks up the party dynamic

>>212922442
>twice the age of faye
That would have made him 68. On top of everything else, that actress was *old*.

>>212919370
Not in the live action.

>>212915923
Because One Piece is just bad

>>212923358
Cowboy Bebop is bad too.

>>212914476 (OP)
Let’s not

>>212918654
Same old same old

>>212923194
they all look old
to old for be looking for place in their life

>>212921211
Love me Bebop
Love me Lagoon
Imple s

>>212914568
>>212914624
why do so many latinas look asian?

>>212917766
>they have a brown zoomer retard fanbase that enjoys braindead shonenslop
This, and a handful constantly spam this board.
Just like with Cobra Kai and Sam Hyde.