Arthouse & Classics & Filmic Ontology
Continuous female authorship edition
>QOTDDo (You) support continuous female authorship as a concept of filmic ontology?
>BonusWill she ever die?
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>>212915243 (OP)>QOTDProbably.
>BonusHeroes never die!
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other thread was first, this is bullying
>>212915435We're all counterbaking Gadonpaki here.
I don't know how to answer.
>>212915522In case of emergency, just say "ok troon".
>>212915243 (OP)>QOTDNot if the disgusting, busted, obnoxious whore Dominique Labourier (1943 - 2025) is involved.
>BonusSee above.
>>212915243 (OP)Permission to board? Iโm defecting from the other bake. This one off to a better start, and perhaps an aroma of holday spices?
>>212915664Pass that blunt, nig.
>>212915243 (OP)Birthdays of /film/ for July 20th:
Happy birthday Verna Felton b. 1890
Happy birthday Rajendra Kumar b. 1929
Happy birthday Sally Ann Howes b. 1930
Happy birthday Aliki Vougiouklaki b. 1934
Happy birthday Ken Ogata b. 1937
Happy birthday Natalie Wood b. 1938
Happy birthday Kurt Raab b. 1941
Happy birthday Keiko Matsuzaka b. 1952
>>212915587>>212915587>>212915587Benbros of /film/, your ship has come in.
>>212915820Why did you make a thread about my father!? I just came out of prison and I swear to God if you don't delete that thread off the web I'm gonna go back in record time.
>>212915781>johh-jeee has been smoking the whacky tabacky! And he says Iโm the cuckoo one!>>212915820ty for the bump. Itโs the beginning of a long journey. But I know we will succeed. There is not an actor more charming, more humble, than our beloved Benedetto.
>>212916083>ty for the bump'Twas a pleasure.
Itโs late here so I have some Burns and Allen running in the background. The show is slop but Burnsโ delivery is always great. He really has that canned rage like heโs on the verge of throttling Gracieโs neck.
Playhouse 90 and I Love Lucy are definitely much better television, as an example. This show is much cozier, though.
https://youtu.be/0o_Mxo_uhH8?feature=shared
You guys are weird tonight.
>>212915815It's Charlotte's birthday tomorrow, and I do declare that we WILL have a Charlotte-themed thread, by hook or by crook.
>>212915815Did we ever celebrate Huppert's birthday on /film/? It was back in March.
>>212916525Just roll with it. Anything is better than capeshit.
>>212916525The opening post preconfigures the vibe of the thread.
DomLab OP = clownish, circus vibes
>>212916745Are you upset your general didnโt take off, even though you posted first?
It seems like some of you arenโt even trying to discuss film. Hmph..
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This general doesnโt need to waifufag to be successful. Post your GOATs
>>212916972OP already posted the GOAT.
>>212917002I'm, shamefully, quite attracted to Dominique here
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>>212915522As the anon who originally wrote that phrase (but did not make the thread), I'll try to explain what I meant by that. Filmic ontology is the fictional space where films create their own reality and in many great films this reality is infused with commentary on cinema or reflection on spectatorship. One of the most popular ontological categories in film is the dreamspace, and some of the most sophisticated films introduce the third element of magic to obfuscate the second (commentary) and seamlessly integrate it in the first (narrative). Some obvious examples: Citizen Kane and Point Blank are dreams of dying men and commentaries on solitariness of the author, dying genre and dying epoch; Peeping Tom and Vertigo are dreams of incapacitated directors acting through mannequin proxies and reflections on film creation; in all four films central characters can be seen as ever present ghosts. Some films operate entirely in the category of cinema, quoting and simultaneously commenting on all previous cinematic output while creating its own; in such films the commentary is the most apparent and because of this apparency it can be self-consciosly manipulated, giving film a sort of parallel narrative, often nonserious and humorous because of its contrast; the classic examples of this method are Godard and Lynch, operating in modernist and postmodernist logic respectively. And Celine and Julie is very unique in this context. It's a moebius strip of permanent female invention, explicilty created with a magic spell, explicitly - and, important, actively - comparing itself to film-watching, ironizing on different modes of film presentation, challenging the question of film authorship, all in airy, accessible comedic fashion.
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>>212916979My toenails are getting long but I canโt find the clippers. Might try to peel wirh my fingers but the one on my big toe is too thick.
>>212917034DL discussion is 95% shitposting but I'll readily admit Ronnie was cute back in the day and not too bad even now
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>>212916745>DomLabI hope this catches on.
>>212917065>airy, accessible comedic fashionYou had me until this part.
>Bresson-Labourier sex tape unearthed
>>212917065I appreciate that this is the first time Iโve seen someone draw a legitimate parallel between Godard and Lynch, but I wouldnโt consider myself a positivist of these sorts of Hegelian Dialectics. Artists are ultimately alone, and their work is both art and entertainment and a business. These things can sound very structured and rational when we analyze the history of it all, but the progress of art history seems to me an illusion, or at least it has to be repeatedly rediscovered. Which is reminding me of Godardโs Forever Motzart.
I think a dialectic of film can only exist because of what preceded it. A fuckload of people poured their lives and spirit into making movies and that made the soace for people to examine it. I think what we have now is a bit of a drought of selfless dedication. So maybe before we have a female ontology of film, first we need a half dozen female Griffiths? And female Billy Wilders? I know there are great female directors: my point is that these large bodies of dramatic work are the fuel for the fire of ontology.
>>212916972Waifuposting is not a self-consciously instrumental means of propping up /film/l: it is an organic, autotelic process that just so happens to prop up /film/ by virtue of the fact that women make up 50% of what is needed for a film (the other 50% being too obvious to need mentioning)..
>>212917065Isn't the magic in C&J a part of the narrative?
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>>212917330Whats the other half?! Tell me or Iโll shoot! With my gun! With my girl.. my gun.. my combination girl and gun!
Best girl film?
Best gun film?
Best complete film (synthesis of the prior two)?
>>212917065Ok, thanks.
>>212915243 (OP)>QODNo.
>BonusYes.
>>212917513That's a hag though.
>>212917562Cuck detected. Opinion discarded.
>>212917452The girl with a gun
>>212917316Can this be connected to the recent trend of revision of film history and reevalution of "neglected" female directors? It may seem artifical and unfair, but it has some internal consistent logic, as attempt to pool together and structure the fragmented output of female cinema in order to see it as whole with its own separate quality and meaning. It does make sense when you look at it this way.
>>212917369Yes, as an illustration of mechanics of cinema.
>>212917630I think there is value in searching the past to create an appreciation for overlooked directors, but what these people miss is engaging with our own present. The record will never โbe set straightโ. This part is sort of sad to me. That unfortunately the younger critics feel the need to tear down directors (male) they see as sacred cows, to prop up their belle du jour. This probably only makes it harder to make new quality movies. Even when it has nothing to do with women. Like some people are even scared to study Griffith. Feels like trying to walk with one leg. Cinema is a sort of immense thing, and it is not a moral thing although people constantly try to make it so.
But anyways, a female film ontology or whatever will only come about through a wave of new work that is not so deliberately self reflexive. Then maybe in 30 years we will have something like what you are talking about. In the meantime movies need to get their confidence back. Social media has rendered modern movies very self conscious..
>>212917891Audiences have their blame too.
>>212917065In English, doc
>>212917452Thriller: A Cruel Picture is on the Mt. Rushmore of girl with a gun. Immensely satisfying revenge joint.
>>212918114Too much slow motion.
>>212917891Rewriting past to be correct in the present is a serious problem today and it is not limited to cinema, it's an operating principle of the expanding hyperpostmodernist omniculture that can be psychologized as a unified solipsistic ego, but that is not the topic of discussion for this thread. As for a new wave of female film work, I suspect it already happened back in the 80s, but was conveniently omitted to fit the dominating narrative of the present that I mentioned above. Seriously, there is a surprisingly large amount of 80s female directors and even auteurs: Martha Coolidge, Susan Seidelman, Penelope Spheeris, Mary Lambert, Amy Heckerling, Kathryn Bigelow - and only the latter is remembered and known today, curiously solely because of her shady cooperation with three letter agencies.
>>212917998Iโm not really concerned with the blame game. Itโs like a marital dispute. Does being right matter more than making it work? Because right now I would say movies โisnโt workinโ
>>212918186I forgot to mention Nina Menkes.
>>212918186Watch this
https://youtu.be/vUl0Zd1bLtg?si=jI8vyEH7DfxE5esc
>>212918186Think about this: Godard and these critics of your โmale dialecticโ analog had their minds shaped no doubt by the cinema of their youth. Godard, Lynch, their work resembles in some way the movies they saw when they were kids, even if they turn it into something altogether new. Many of these filmmakers are just too egg brain. Westerns in the silent era were looked at as disposable trash for children. Thatโs a big reason why so many are lost forever. Art needs to get under the skin and bleed into the unconscious to start any sort of โmovementโ. And people are more open when their young. Many movies are of value in my eyes but donโt โplayโ to an audience. Maybe artists who feel marginalized struggle to confidently entertain, and the big words and deep thoughts are on some level a cope. The only thing I know for sure is if your movie is up on that screen than at that moment no other movie is. Non contemplative art gets a bad wrap from intellectuals.
Assuming youโre the same person from yesterday: like I said there really is no answer for these questions. Iโm happy to wax about it but I really donโt think thereโs such thing as โsetting the record straightโ.
I think cannibalism is great, specially when the other watches.
>>212918475You misunderstood me yesterday, probably because I had no time to properly explain my position. I'm not disagreeing with you that there is no single answer, but that does not mean we shouldn't speculate and try to penetrate. Truth is infinite, and if in philosophical terms seraching for truth (and meaning) is incorporating Object into Subject, then we'll learn the truth only when everything is subject. I know what you want to call this, and no I'm not religious. But connecting to my previous point, part of the reason for the modern hysteria and neurosis is that we're learning too much, there's too much subject, too much ego and we're not adapted to it.
However, this conversation again highlights our crucial difference in understanding reality-culture-art-cinema, that I already described several months ago. For me, art is not a thing in itself that needs to descend back into minds to have any sort of influence on reality. For me, art is a superstructure of material reality, an expression of culture, an ascencsion of the subconscious, of the mind and its transformation into concrete artistic object (a film). In short, you're thinking idealistically down, I'm thinking materialistically up. In this way of thinking, "bleeding into" is a necessary prerequisite, an underlying principle, and goes without saying.
/Philm/ sucks, what a bunch of nonsense.
>>212917657So how is it a third element contrasted with narrative and commentary? A bit of a nitpick I suppose, given that I think I see your overall point, but a sincere one.
>>212919343Not a nitpick, you're right, in Celine and Julie this element is explicit and does not contrast, that's why I call the film unique. We'll never know whether Rivette "felt" it instinctively in process of construction, or thought of it at the stage of conception, but either way the insight AND the authentic way it is included in the film are brilliant.
>>212919463>in Celine and Julie this element is explicit and does not contrast, that's why I call the film uniqueWhat are some examples of more typical films where magic is a third element distinct from the other two?
>>212919849nta but Purple Rose Of Cairo?
>>212919849Already given above. In Peeping Tom the main character is compelled to act the way he does by the sadistic spirit of his father, and the father is played by the director of the film, which neatly exposes the film's themes as a commentary on cinema. It's all ambiguous of course, and the character can be explained away as merely burdened by psychological trauma, but that subtlety only adds to the beauty in my opinion. It's even implied somewhere in dialogue that the house owned by the father and passed down to the main character is father's head and the studio in the upper room his mind, making the film his body and the main character his proxy, an animated mannequin.
>>212920135>In Peeping Tom the main character is compelled to act the way he does by the sadistic spirit of his father, and the father is played by the director of the filmSeems not too dissimilar to the C&J to me. Is the "magic" you're talking about a convenient shorthand for a certain kind of relation between the other two elements? I feel like it's just the word that's throwing me a bit.
>>212920333>Seems not too dissimilar to the C&J to me.The magic of Celine and Julie is explicit, organically weaved into the narrative. We see characters reading magic books, uttering spells, receiving magic sweets, etc. In Peeping Tom it's implicit, hidden to the point of nonexistence in the literal, straightforward reading, extratextual.
>Is the "magic" you're talking about a convenient shorthand for a certain kind of relation between the other two elements?That's what I said in the first post up above, "to obfuscate the second (commentary) and seamlessly integrate it in the first (narrative)".
>I feel like it's just the word that's throwing me a bit.Maybe supernatural is a better word, or something else. If fictional space of film is elevation of reality, the supernatural is elevation of the fictional space, does that make sense?
I'll be watching Abel Gance's Napoleon epic today.
What can I expect?
>>212921390Epicness, and pain in the cheeks.
>>212921430I see. I need to take precautions on the cheeks part.
This fucker's acting is David Caruso tier
>>212921544i love takeshi kitano but also MXC
>>212920552>The magic of Celine and Julie is explicit>In Peeping Tom it's implicitThis kind of gets to what I mean about it likely just being a verbal thing. I'd agree that all the "magical" stuff in PT is implicit in contrast to C&J's explicit foregrounding of it as something within the narrative that makes it destabilize itself (but only the fact about Powell is outright extratextual), but it still ultimately remains a narrative thing apart from the Powell thing (can you similarly to PT explain away the "magic" with seeing the sweets as drugs and the other magical stuff as a red herring? It's been a while since I've seen it).
>"to obfuscate the second (commentary) and seamlessly integrate it in the first (narrative)"Again, it's likely a verbal thing, but in spite of you calling it unique, one understanding of this general characteristic seems to apply to C&J perfectly (though I'd add that that seamless integration is a somewhat paradoxical one by virtue of it destabilizing the narrative) and far less so to anything else mentioned.
>If fictional space of film is elevation of reality, the supernatural is elevation of the fictional spaceDo you mean something like the fictional space is a reality we're meant to take for granted as viewers which the supernatural tries to destabilize and draw something else from?
>>212921544Nah. He's the GOAT.
>>212921704>I'd agree that all the "magical" stuffSorry, "magical" stuff" should read "conventionally magical".
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
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>>212922001And BGG is still going!
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>>212921704>>212921806>all the "conventionally magical" stuff in PT ... still ultimately remains a narrative thingI don't see how, can you elaborate? Maybe my memory of the film is rusty, but I don't remember any hints of magic/supernatural presence, the narrative has a purely psychological explanation, and the head-mind-body analogy is just an abstract metaphor. Unlike for example in Vertigo where the presence of Carlotta Valdes is hinted at several times in the film, most explicitly in the picrelated famous shot.
>can you similarly to PT explain away the "magic" [in C&J]No, you can't, the protagonists start seeing the film-within-the-film with the sweets' help only after several visits to the magical house, and the "spilling" of its characters into Paris happens without them.
>one understanding of this general characteristic seems to apply to C&J perfectly (though I'd add that that seamless integration is a somewhat paradoxical one by virtue of it destabilizing the narrative)Again, I don't see how. Maybe you forgot that the entire narrative is conjured by a magic spell uttered in the very beginning.
>Do you mean something like the fictional space is a reality we're meant to take for granted as viewers which the supernatural tries to destabilize and draw something else from?Not always. It's hidden in Peeping Tom, hinted at in Vertigo. But Last Year at Marienbad - another excellent example - is wholly and exclusively the supernatual destabilization of a completely static, inanimate fictional space.
>>212915243 (OP)Based Celine & Julie appreciator
Back in prison, I used to suck men's dicks in exchange for anal sex.
I'm hard as a motherfucker.
>>212923058What is this mythical place?
The magic in C&J isn't meant to be taken seriously at all, it's a device to explore this "film within a film" idea. It's kept as vague and flimsy as possible. The sweets, rituals and books are part of the aesthetic of being a 20-something arthoe in Paris. It's unironically something men won't fully understand.
This joint has grown on me a lot. I've listened to the soundtrack a whole lot, I've been whispermumbling it in public places. I sent the title song to my friend who's currently in a psych ward.
>>212922611>I don't see how, can you elaborate?I was just going along with your point about the potential ambiguity of the psychological part of the equation of the protagonist that gives form to the extra-textual fact about Powell playing his father. Likely an unimportant tangent.
>Again, I don't see how. Maybe you forgot that the entire narrative is conjured by a magic spell uttered in the very beginning.Sorry if I was confusing here. What I meant was that what your description of "magic" in general ("to obfuscate the second (commentary) and seamlessly integrate it in the first (narrative)") seems to apply very well (on one understanding and from what I remember of it) to C&J. I think that I must just have the wrong end of the stick because a concept that would subsume both something so subtle as to be borderline nonexistent (and arguably inessential) like the extratextual stuff like Michael Powell playing the protagonist's dad in PT (and I don't really see any obfuscation in it) and something as central the "conventionally magical" elements and their use in C&J was not what I had in mind.
>>212924809In my country we eat this with chile and lime.
Cinema isn't dead. It just smells funny.
>>212924149On the ultimate, framing level, you're of course right. Labourier is a librarian, she reads a book and is deep in fantasies, reads the spell as a joke, notices a clumsy woman that is totally not a white rabbit, the film-within-the-film is a mannered literary story and something she could read out of boredom, etc. The conjuring of the story and maneuvering inside and around it is a facet of the film's discourse on authorship and a mirror of its improisational construction.
>>212924475i watched that for the first time within the past 6 months and forgot it completely. should give it another shot.
>>212924930>I think the cinema will only begin when the film industry is dead. Iโm waiting for it to go all the time, but itโs going to hang on for at least another twenty years. (1970)
>>212924701I think it ultimately comes down to what reading of the C&J you prefer. Although the film is happy and eager to expose its inner workings and pull the viewer inside them it also can be seen as a simpler, more straightforward reflection on the pleasures of film-watching, and in that case the "magic obfuscation" element does apply perfectly well to it.
>>212915397She never sleeps
She says that she will never die
>>212915247This film gonna become lost media lol
>>212925676enough coomers have archived it
the real question is, are the rumors true and part 2 hits next month?
Connoisseurs of /film/, where would you go to find a pdf if it weren't on libgen, z-library, anna's archive, the internet archive, or soulseek?
>>212925775We need that. /film/ needs that
>>212925842Try ThePirateBay.
>>212924149Rivettranny, truly.
>>212924475You're gonna get me to rewatch this for the first time this year, Dallebro.
I was so deep at one point early on, back in Feb 2024 I recut the whole thing, dubbing it "Mark I" and syncing the film to the soundtrack in Sony Vegas (the songs are higher quality/less tinny-sounding on the OST) and even added the open matte trailer at the end. Purely made it for myself when I just wanted to "watch the soundtrack" in the best quality, but I always meant to share it with someone, anyoneโฆ anyhow, anyhow. Because of this post, I think I'll finally upload it to Youtube later.
>>212925842idk, you can filetype:pdf in search engines tho
>>212925842odds are pretty low
what are you looking for?
>>212925918I don't want scurvy
>>212926180Tried that one too. No results.
>>212926222
>>212925676>This film gonna become lost media lolYou're not confusing it with its sequel are you?
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This was bad.
I watched all the way through to make sure.
It is okay not to watch this film and I recommend you skip it and remove it from your watchlist.
It wasn't bad in a very interesting way, just poor overall and in general.
Not by any means the worst film I've seen. Not offensive or completely incoherent or devoid of anything interesting, just, in general, bad.
>>212926357My little yella cinderella
>>212926357You watched this because I mentioned it the other day.
Yeah yeah, but it's Rivette's film, he still made the final decisions and had final cut, he's the author ultimately, even if the ladies had creative input their control is only of their own performances in the end. There's plenty of films truly authored by women, this not being one of them.
>>212926413Yes, followed by this.
>>212926413Sternberg is one of our patron saints of /film/.
FRed Lavigne belongs in the shkreets and his films belong in the trash.
I may force myself to watch the sound of music today.
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It's interesting how I love C&G but detest Daisies by Vera Shitlova despite it being the spiritual predecessor. Worth a mention while we're on the topic.
>>212926800Well duh, Daisies was actually meant to be enjoyed by normal straight people.
>>212926357>>212926522I've got The Toll of the Sea here,ayve i'll watch it today.
>>212926522Zoo wee mama! Are her boobs nice in this one?
>>212927274False advertising, she doesn't actually get naked.
>>212926914Is that why both women in it are ugly as sin?
>>212926800the railroad sequence in Daisies blew my mind desu
>>212927638A fridge with butterfly magnets lol
>>212927916I'd fuck that face hard.
No one watches the films I mention here.
>>212928154>wanting to fuck a fridgeBased and latent appliance fetishist pilled.
>>212928326Sad, send a chart of your top (enter number), so I can roast it later.
>>212929140These resemble films I will not watch.
Ernest Hemingway would always be there for meโฆ
>>212929399Sent that freak flying.
>>212929399Fuck you benchod
>>212929521You too sir
>>212929519Ah, yes. Macho man hemingway.
I want my favs to remain well kept secrets so when I casually mention them in passing people think i'm really cool and deep
>>212929709For me it's A Bug's Life
>>212929140I need to make a chart like this. God knows I've shilled at least a dozen different films on /filmhor/
>>212926800>>212927638Some guy I follow on Letterboxd with picrel as his avatar has nearly convinced me to watch Daisies. Even moreso now since Lipsky/Lemonade Joe convinced me I need to give Czechkino a chance.
>>212929709For me it's Honey I Fucked You in the Ass 2
>>212929754watch Closely Watched Trains if you haven't already
>>212929754Actresses chomping down on a piece of food has to be my favorite gender.
>>212929709>he doesn't intentionally promote his favorite films to force his contrarianism into finding new onesNgmi
>>212929140I have the Mayolos downloaded and i said i was adding Edipo to my watchlist you fucking whiner, but i get to stuff when i get to stuff.
>>212929863Impeccably Baused taste, anon.
>>212929754It's just careless subversion and mockery of western value systems and since it's made by women they don't even realise the depths of their depravity.
>>212929863It is a very hot thing indeed.
>>212929925calm down Joรฃo
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>>212929964I'm calm, i'm always calm, i don't know why you guys always think i'm angry just because i curse.
What are you sissies buying from this months Criterion sale?
>>212930030I own exactly one Criterion DVD, Two-Lane Blacktop, which was my 15th birthday gift from my sweet loving mother.
>>212930126Does he play her dad?
>>212930126Genuinely repulsive
>>212930181Robert Carlyle plays Sarah Gadon's dad and Amanda Fix's grandfather!
>>212926294Isn't that pic is from the sequel?
A really sad movie in all honesty. Concepts like time dilation feel tailor made for emotional moments in film.
>>212930334Forgive me. In my joyous haste at seeing my queen I forgot to read the file name.
>>212930653https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=094iKZQRYA8
>>212929863Behold, a classic of the genre! Nas always eats like a bird, she's so dainty :)
We're all orally fixed here.
>>212930721She gobbled on massive girthy BBCs when the cameras aren't rolling.
Disgusting
>>212929950Communism is hardly a western value at all, and the movie pissed off Godard too so that's another reason to like it
>>212926285I will. The only reason I never uploaded it back then was because there were a couple minor errors I needed to fix after the final render. Honest to god, I couldn't be bothered to go back in the original project file and fix them after working on it for two or three days straight. Also the encoding made the exported file look a little blurry, probably because I had to constantly resync the film with the soundtrack so frames blend in occasionally. I actually took picrel from Mark I because it looks nightmarish jej
>>212929650It's a lyric but my point still stands.
>>212929863Based and agreed.
>>212929805>Closely Watched TrainsNever heard of it so naturally I just added it to my watchlist.
>>212929950Noted.
>>212930766>>212930721THATS FUCKING DISGUSTING
>>212930653Time isn't real
>>212930820Lyrics to what
>>212930721Why are you posting crash bandicoot in a movie thread?
>>212926381Another pleb filtered by Micky Hannicky.
Evening Gadonbros. Evening Fixbros
>>212933071what about us Madisonbros
what's your take on cassavetes?
>>212933298How exactly is Le Tigre related to Cassavetes?
>>212933130ugly slimy fish
>>212931379Real shit.
>>212933449https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYq0WkMy8no
>>212933480>ugly slimy fishpls saar
>>212933298Who are these three guys?
i want to watch hunchback. do i go with lon chaney first or charles laughton? i like laughton a lot, but i dont mind chaney either.
>>212933449Through John Casablancas
>>212933130>Madisonbros/tv/ normies and /film/ pseuds dont deserve a jewish princess. a nasty little jewish princess, with long phony nails and a hairdo that rinses.
with a garlic aroma, that could level tacoma~
hey it's a remake of
>>212624765 >Yotsuya Kaidan has been adapted for the cinema at least thirty times oh shi-
>>212933449that's clearly Ferrari not even close to Le Tigre
i would understand if you mixed it up with Blue Steel but Ferrari and Le Tigre are literally opposite of each other
>>212933880
Is this the best American film of the last decade or so?
>>212935941Comedy is the better Alverson movie
>>212937032Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong thread, the gookslop club is two scrolls down.
ive been getting nosebleeds third day in a row now
im probably dying
>>212937076I think you mean 5 scrolls up, kdg is way more active than this general.
>>212937045Entertainment is practically an Antonioni film. Both nail alienation and existential dread. In Entertainment, the Comedian is a sad sack schlepping through Mojave dive bars, bombing with his cringe act and calling his kid who never picks up. Pure Antonioni vibesโthink LโAvventuraโs Claudia and Sandro, lost in their empty lives after Anna vanishes. Both directors say fuck linear plots; Entertainmentโs weird shit stillborn baby in a bathroomand Antonioniโs open-ended stories LโEclisseโs ghosted ending keep you guessing, mirroring the charactersโ own confusion. Visually, theyโre twins. Antonioniโs long takes and stark landscapes (those islands in LโAvventura, Red Desertโs factories) scream loneliness. Alverson does the same with desert oil pumps and airplane gravesโComedianโs greasy hair in perfectly framed shots is straight out of Antonioniโs playbook. Both use bleak, washed-out colors to show a dead-inside world. Long, slow shots in both make you feel the charactersโ painโtime drags like real life. Entertainment has some dark laughs, more Lynch than Antonioniโs straight-faced gloom, and it rips on American showbiz while Antonioni digs at post-war Italyโs soul. Still, both are about people stuck in a void, dwarfed by their world. Alversonโs like Antonioni reborn in the desert
>>212937196not in the mood to read this many words today sorry, maybe later
>>212937196Is this AI generated?
>>212937270If you have to ask it's already over for you.
>>212930779>the movie pissed off GodardI will now watch this film.
>>212933130Disgusting blobfish.
>>212933843Double feature is the answer.
>>212937098Go there then and leave us alone you undesirable cunt. Also,
>>212937032That actress is not chopping that wood, dishonest cinema.
>>212937488Thinking an ugly woman is ugly makes me a pajeet?
>>212937584She's only half anyway, give me a full heeb queen. This half a chinaman doesn't even have the new yawk accent.
>>212937434Yes, he said something to the effect that Chytilova shouldn't be making bourgeois films in a socialist society. Similar to the Czech officials who complained about all the food waste in the movie
Should I just straight up learn French because I can't stand most American films
>>212937681based. fuck Godard
>>212937681unbased. fuck Godard (sexually)
>>212937484i watched the lon chaney one and red a little of the book. i might continue with the book next week, the preface alone was very captive.
>A few years ago, while visiting or, rather, rummaging about Notre-Dame, the author of this book found, in an obscure nook of one of the towers, the following word, engraved by hand upon the wall:โ แผฮรฮฮฮ.
These Greek capitals, black with age, and quite deeply graven in the stone, with I know not what signs peculiar to Gothic caligraphy imprinted upon their forms and upon their attitudes, as though with the purpose of revealing that it had been a hand of the Middle Ages which had inscribed them there, and especially the fatal and melancholy meaning contained in them, struck the author deeply.
He questioned himself; he sought to divine who could have been that soul in torment which had not been willing to quit this world without leaving this stigma of crime or unhappiness upon the brow of the ancient church.
Afterwards, the wall was whitewashed or scraped down, I know not which, and the inscription disappeared. For it is thus that people have been in the habit of proceeding with the marvellous churches of the Middle Ages for the last two hundred years. Mutilations come to them from every quarter, from within as well as from without. The priest whitewashes them, the archdeacon scrapes them down; then the populace arrives and demolishes them.
Thus, with the exception of the fragile memory which the author of this book here consecrates to it, there remains to-day nothing whatever of the mysterious word engraved within the gloomy tower of Notre-Dame,โnothing of the destiny which it so sadly summed up. The man who wrote that word upon the wall disappeared from the midst of the generations of man many centuries ago; the word, in its turn, has been effaced from the wall of the church; the church will, perhaps, itself soon disappear from the face of the earth.
It is upon this word that this book is founded.
March, 1831.
>>212937862I'm doing it, but i'm so fucking lazy.
>>212937681Godard was such an insufferable cunt, never seen an interview with him that didn't make me want to punch him right in his rich swiss boy face.
>>212933130We prefer blue eyed white women here
RIP Bruce Lee
RIP Yusaku Matsuda
>>212940771Beautiful picture, the sky reminiscent of J.M.W. Turner.
James Gunn's Superman (2025) > any /film/ joint (unironically)
>>212942278many are saying this
How can the lazy modern movie director even compete?
>>212943344They gotta keep on falling, because GITS is peak media.
>>212943473what is the average runtime of these? impressive anyways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNw6Su_TeDA
New Hal Hartley movie, I think maybe his style is never going to really hit like it did in the 90s.
>>212943344Sarah Gadon watches anime
>>212932941Filtered is what you all say when someone calls a movie bad and you can't think of a single reason why it isn't bad, so I accept your concession.
>>212943561It's the definition of mid except for that one big fight.
>>212943978Tell us about exit level anime.
>>212944018I didn't write entry-level at any point, it just entered your wounded insecure psyche for some reason.
Exit level of the medium as a whole is when you realize every single mangaka was just a gay pedophile from the start.
>>212942278Cute post, here's your (You).
>>212943756Based Sarah. The opening credits to Sailor Moon is kino.
>>212944211But where is the exit level anime, lil bro.
Late night /film/'s been real grim lately. Rec me exotica films (pacific south seas, orientalist stuff, even arabian stuff) from before the 60s.
What if Bresson was a gay rasta
Bobby "Battyman" Bresson
>>212946132Batty Boysson.
> french "new" wave
> 60 years old
what did they mean by this
>Paul "New"man
>came out in 1925
Took a break from watching pretentious art slop for this absolute Kino.
Porky and Daffy's bond was so strong in this film. I wish I loved my brother as much as these two cartoon animals love each other.
That final moment on the asteroid made me more emotional than any film by European auteur could ever dream of.
Is the adaption of Brother Karamazov is any good or should stick with the book? I heard William Shatner and the guy who played Rameses in Ten Commandments is in it.
Haha oh no honey, your little black dress doesn't make you look fat... Ahaha...
>>212948755fine i'll give it a second chance just to listen to the musics
>>212948047Is that actually great or are you just memeing? Honest question, i really love those two characters and Looney Tunes in general.
>>212948755Truly disturbing individual.
>>212949025My post was 100% genuine but others may disagree.
I didn't go in expecting much but I was pleasantly surprised and wanted to share my experience with others.
>>212925775>the real question is, are the rumors true and part 2 hits next month?Not rumours, it's official.
>>212945763https://letterboxd.com/filmcharts/list/film-s-trip-around-the-world-southeast-asia/by/release-earliest/
https://letterboxd.com/filmcharts/list/film-s-trip-around-the-world-middle-east/by/release-earliest/
https://letterboxd.com/filmcharts/list/film-s-trip-around-the-world-east-asia/by/release-earliest/
>>212915243 (OP)Canadian actress Amanda Fix.
Thoughts /film/?
>>212949276that tracks. hopefully he'll join the 42% soon
>>212949340Far more disgusting, busted, obnoxious and whorish than /film/'s beloved DomLab.
>>212949219You did not understand my request.
>>212949219No seriously who the fuck would want to force themselves into watching Thai films since they talk so fast?
>>212943344Only GitS, Akira and couple of Ghibli films is Criterion worthy rest is slop
Who the fuck would wanna force themselves into watchinga italian cinema they talka so fast
>>212949092Ok, i'll watch it.
>>212949781Sent those freaks flying.
>>212949276I will not yes and this bit.
>>212950060I beg your pardon, sir?
>>212949770Angel's Egg is more "Criterion-core" than any of the ones you mentioned
>>212950209i think you mean lum2 beautiful dreamer
>>212949331Stay strong trains is hard job
Very soon I hope to be free from this pain, /film/ :)
>>212950341And /film/ hopes to be free from you
>>212915397>Rivette was a manlet>Godard was a manlet>Truffaut was a manlet>Chabrol was a manletRohmerbros we can't stop winning
>>212950856>Rohmer shoots fast, but he doesnโt shoot all the time. Most directors arrive in the morning, line up a shot (if they didnโt do it the day before), and film perhaps an hour later, shooting constantly up to the very last minute of the workday. Not Rohmer. He may arrive in the morning and do nothing concrete until noon. Though he may seem to be daydreaming, he acts with amazing speed when he decides what he wants. He may film up to ten screen minutes in a day (the average is three, which is more than acceptable), and then dismiss the crew before the scheduled time. His work rhythm is very irregular: sometimes with no warning he will just not turn up, or he may take time off to run (he was jogging long before it became a fad). I admit that I felt confused at first. But I began to get used to these odd tactics during the shooting of Claire's Knee. Sometimes we lost whole days, and the crew would become panicky, thinking the shooting was falling behind schedule. But Rohmer was probably only waiting for the perfect moment, either from the point of view of the light or of the actors, and would make up the lost time in a single dayโs work.
>>212950953It's insane how based this guy was, the more i learn about him the more i care for him.
We all shoot fast but not all the time here
>>212951095Shame about the guy he burned to death though
>>212948755What is this even a reference to?
>>212951151Nah that guy just fell into a lit match.
>>212951355Source: the riches of my Emersonian mind
mega
md5: 56b733ae7789c9d21bf418e8aaca3afd
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>>212951718FYI yesterday was the first show of the Megalopolis Road Tour in NJ
full house, TICKETS PRICED $200 EACH
>>212951856>Sun Jul 20 - Red Bank, NJ - Count Basie Center for the Arts>Wed Jul 23 - Port Chester, NY - The Capitol Theatre - Featuring Special Guest Grace VanderWaal>Fri Jul 25 - Chicago, IL - The Chicago Theatre - Featuring Special Guest Grace VanderWaal>Sun Jul 27 - Denver, CO - Paramount Theatre>*Tues Jul 29 - Dallas, TX - The Texas Theatre (*Not a Live Nation Date, Tickets Available Here)>Fri Aug 01 - San Francisco, CA - Palace of Fine Arts
Can we just can it already so I can post the /film/ birthdays for today
>>212951912is it your birthday?
>>212951946Two more weeks It actually is on that week
>>212951718Look at dem chompers
>>212951912I got the next bake prepared already. Just waiting for the bump limit.
Baked a cake
A birthday cake
For film icons
It's called cinema because it cinemakes me fall asleep
>>212952167>Queen of /film/Could you give us a sneak peek?
>he thinks I won't counterbake in 3, 2, 1...
>>212952232Partially inspired by the current /film/ic discourse, I'm baking a birthday cake.
>>212952242Thanks for respecting the wishes of our residents
>One hour and 12 minutes later
I refuse to post in the other thread, so I'll just ride this one out until it dies
Not gonna be posting in the waifutranny thread
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